Freedom What does it mean?

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

...Political contributions and lobbying are expressions of free speech...

The Supreme Court ruled that about political contributions. I don't know whether they've ever ruled that about lobbying...

But I disagree.

And I believe the only way we will ever clean up government is to outlaw them.

If we don't take the money out of politics we can't win. And there is no need for lobbyists. All communication should be at public hearings where people should be invited to give testimony of their knowledge of issues that are in the public interest, which include corporate interests that affect the economy. Only citizens should be able to contact their representatives in the Legislature. CEOs of corporations are also citizens so they can get their say as citizens just like the rest of us.