Personal attacks (conducted on this forum)

[tone3jaguar]

Originally Posted by Luminari

I am glad that a certain thread has been deleted, I'm not too happy about the situation. It was a karmic response to the hate messages espoused by the recipient recently.

Attacks on George Green will not be tolerated, I hope that is crystal clear.

I won't be doing any more 'enforcing'... but there are forces in play.

T3J I hope you are feeling better, please refrain from attacking people you do not know personally lest you meet the same end.

Please enlighten me as to how calling B.S. on one subject that George Green has spoken of is an attack. An attack is when you viciously go after another individual. I am just opening up a debate about fear inducing prophecy from an individual that could lead to unnecessary paranoia and fear. Blindly accepting everything that an individual has to say because once upon a time he put out some good stuff is not using good intuitive discernment.

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar

Please enlighten me as to how calling B.S. on one subject that George Green has spoken of is an attack. An attack is when you viciously go after another individual. I am just opening up a debate about fear inducing prophecy from an individual that could lead to unnecessary paranoia and fear. Blindly accepting everything that an individual has to say because once upon a time he put out some good stuff is not using good intuitive discernment.

Your disrespectful attitude. I would have banned you for the titles of your Burisch and Green 'hit pieces'. Discussion is one thing.. what you're doing is another.

[tone3jaguar]

So I take it you don't have an answer to my question?

[tone3jaguar]

Attacks on George Green will not be tolerated, I hope that is crystal clear.

Not be tolerated by whom?

[tone3jaguar]

It was a karmic response to the hate messages espoused by the recipient recently.

So now you are a conduit for Universal Karma? This is starting to sound more and more like a certain type of philosophy I have heard of in the past.

[tone3jaguar]

You mean these forces?

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=15829

or these forces?

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=13585

[tone3jaguar]

It was also interesting how my computer spontainiously turned off for the first time since I bought it 1.5 years ago at about the exact moment that the Personal Attack was issued last night. It would not turn back on for about 10 min. I checked the heat sinc to make sure it was not overheating and it was not. When I turned it back on is when I found the new thread posted by you know who. I must have really hit some off the right truth buttons.

[TheChosen]

Moderators? Please keep the energy at levels we have gotten used to.. you know what I mean..

[Karen]

Originally Posted by TheChosen

Moderators? Please keep the energy at levels we have gotten used to.. you know what I mean..

We are short on moderators. This moderator is helping teenagers get ready for fair.

Can the members moderate themselves?

Can other members help with gentle reminders?

I have to go back to supervising the 3D situation in my back yard.

[tone3jaguar]

Its all good, maby this is part of the great revealing?

[Samarkis]

In Peace & Respect....

I am asking all to pls add personal reflexives to their responses...it reduces tensions (i.e.-"in my opinion","I feel","it appears to me"....)it then becomes less of a frontal attack.....

Here in the US, we are used to saying anything and letting others prove or disprove what we say...It is my hopes, in the light of true discussion, that all can accept that mode as it opens new avenues of thought...if someone doesn't agree with your posts, either explain further or ignore...we are the "New Humanity" Let's set new precedents!!!!

Wishing you all success!


Samarkis as I AM Moderator.....

[THEWATCHER]

WOWZER!! Can I safely throw my 2 cents worth in here? I see some pretty close to threat material in this thread, and thats not on. What the hell is it coming to when someone cannot place their opinion of any individual so called insider whistleblower without being shot at by obvious supporters of that insider. It not cricket!!. I too have grave misgivings about Dan Burisch, maybe one or two others, GONNA TAKE A POP AT ME? I'm up for it

Barry

[Samarkis]

In this particular thread, I am again asking all to use personal reflexives added to their comments so as to reduce the impression of frontal attacks...if you pls Watcher, that includes yourself.... In my opinion, that will open discussion instead of feeling like attacks....

Thank you all for co-operating!!!

[TheChosen]

There is a difference between a dissagreement and a personal attack. The problem is not the disagreement, but the way it is presented.

This forum is the place where the most controversial subjects are discussed, thus without presenting them in the right format it is very easy to offend someone or be quite misunderstood.

All it takes is to apply some assertiveness when presenting one's views.. nothing more. It can be a pain and limiting sometimes, but I personally believe it is the most optimal way of sharing information at the current level of cosciousness on this forum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assertiveness

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by TheChosen

There is a difference between a dissagreement and a personal attack. The problem is not the disagreement, but the way it is presented.

This forum is the place where the most controversial subjects are discussed, thus without presenting them in the right format it is very easy to offend someone or be quite misunderstood.

All it takes is to apply some assertiveness when presenting one's views.. nothing more. It can be a pain and limiting sometimes, but I personally believe it is the most optimal way of sharing information at the current level of cosciousness on this forum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assertiveness

I want to thank everyone in this forum for exhibiting self-restraint and tolerance with my "out-reality" threads and postings -- I am well aware the responses could have been a lot more antagonistic. These days I lean more towards "actuality" than agreed upon "reality", which is to me an altered state.

Thanks again for the good manners shown towards me. The only time I got hit back on a post was most usually when my own manners were lacking somehow. It is a skill and an art to argue a different viewpoint. There is nothing wrong with judiciously getting someone's blood pressure up if it is done with good intentions. I would probably thank someone for making me confront something, if done correctly. Best to do it before 10pm

I am copying this portion of George Kavassilas' letter to an antagonistic person. I thought it a good way to keep one's own truths without having to attack the attacker:

"Thank you very much for facilitating an opportunity to respond to such a comment. I find comments like these inspiring and empowering. They also teach me how to respond honestly and firmly but with humility, compassion and Grace."

Link to whole letter

Gnosis

[Steve_A]

Hi Everybody,

I understand the need for some people to let off steam. I'm the same. However, what I say in the forum is only a small slice of what I say out loud to myself (good job I'm not being recorded!).

I think what the moderating team is trying to say is that we don't need to be brash to get our points over. I think I mentioned in another thread about George Green, that I wasn't on board with everything he said, nor did I understand why Henry Deacon was in Amsterdam. But I wasn't disrespectful in my comments, even though my thoughts were a little more direct.

In my opinion if people who call themselves 'insiders', 'experts', 'whistleblowers', or any other name that they wish to call themselves, making claims that, it could be argued, sometimes are hard to swallow, of course they are open to criticism by people who find it difficult to accept what they are saying. It's human nature.
I didn't make Deacon leap on to a stage in Barça and say that he went to Mars, I didn't make george Green Skype Amsterdam and say he had a message from the Pleidians. These comments should be discussed and opinions should be able to be made public, but we must keep the discussion in good taste, otherwise we will end up again, like we are, arguing the toss as to who insulted who and who upset who and the list can go on forever....

Keep it real, keep it objective, but keep it polite at least, even if you disagree and explaining why you disagree is always a good thing as that allows others to see your reasoning and could put a new light or other perspective to the idea.

Best regards,

Steve

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by Steve_A

Hi Everybody,

I understand the need for some people to let off steam. I'm the same. However, what I say in the forum is only a small slice of what I say out loud to myself (good job I'm not being recorded!).

I think what the moderating team is trying to say is that we don't need to be brash to get our points over. I think I mentioned in another thread about George Green, that I wasn't on board with everything he said, nor did I understand why Henry Deacon was in Amsterdam. But I wasn't disrespectful in my comments, even though my thoughts were a little more direct.

In my opinion if people who call themselves 'insiders', 'experts', 'whistleblowers', or any other name that they wish to call themselves, making claims that, it could be argued, sometimes are hard to swallow, of course they are open to criticism by people who find it difficult to accept what they are saying. It's human nature.
I didn't make Deacon leap on to a stage in Barça and say that he went to Mars, I didn't make george Green Skype Amsterdam and say he had a message from the Pleidians. These comments should be discussed and opinions should be able to be made public, but we must keep the discussion in good taste, otherwise we will end up again, like we are, arguing the toss as to who insulted who and who upset who and the list can go on forever....

Keep it real, keep it objective, but keep it polite at least, even if you disagree and explaining why you disagree is always a good thing as that allows others to see your reasoning and could put a new light or other perspective to the idea.

Best regards,

Steve

To me, whistleblowers are people too. I'm not about to hold them on a pedestal and neither should anyone else. It doesn't mean that they should be attacked en masse like any other people. But, when people disagree, they should be able to express those disagreements in a civil manner.

[tone3jaguar]

The cat all ways lands how?

[nostrovia]

To me, whistleblowers are people too. I'm not about to hold them on a pedestal and neither should anyone else. It doesn't mean that they should be attacked en masse like any other people. But, when people disagree, they should be able to express those disagreements in a civil manner.

I've been lurking here for some time, and listening to PC for a very long time and I totally agree with this above. I do however become concerned with people who intentionally try to deceive others. I think anyone can agree that it's hard not to be frustrated with folks like that. Still anger doesn't do much positive.

[DOMINIC 777]

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

WOWZER!! Can I safely throw my 2 cents worth in here? I see some pretty close to threat material in this thread, and thats not on. What the hell is it coming to when someone cannot place their opinion of any individual so called insider whistleblower without being shot at by obvious supporters of that insider. It not cricket!!. I too have grave misgivings about Dan Burisch, maybe one or two others, GONNA TAKE A POP AT ME? I'm up for it

Barry

I agree...any individual can express thenselves ...moderator or not you cannot go around shouting you mouth off...here in the U.K . we give everone the chance to have an opinion , it is called freedom ...it is not cricket ..it is not rugger
lol
dom