Dr. Steven Greer, Disinfo Agent? Details Please!

[Steven]

This thread is interesting. A lot of sharing of different point of view.

Here is mine about Steven Greer.

He is not the same Steven Greer we knew with disclosure project. He has touched a very sensitive nerve in 2001. He got in touch with elite's puppets. He did not come back intact.

Or he has been threatened, or he has been implanted, or he is partially mentally controlled, or something else occurred that made him invite people in a dangerous direction. It might be a compound of all these suppositions. He might not be aware of that control himself.

I would really like to see someone asking him WHY he has called one of his new project; ORION project?

My take is that they are laughing at us how easy they can manipulate Hu-manity. They can manipulate a part of us, but not the divinity in us. This, in order to take total control has to be shut down. The good news is that instead of being shut down, it is waking up.

Trust your inner voice from the heart, not the head. Call it and ask it any question, give it some time and you'll have always an answer. This can not be misleading.

Namaste, Steven

[DOMINIC 777]

I think we have to take this to its highest point
INFINITE CONSCIOUSNESS IS ALL POSITIVE.....therefore that implies that there are positive E.T'S.......
How do we discern if a person on the earth is telling the truth from falsehood , information from disinformation,
and the answer to this is ,if it is all positive and for the good of MANKIND then it is truth /reality.

the question arise is" How can a person portray the truth(BEING POSITIVE) when infact he/she thinks the opposite.....and how do we discern this...(wolf in sheeps clothing)......They pretend to be the shepherd....then kill the sheep and blame it on something or someone else....
Therefore the wisest thing to do is to use intuiton ,yes,.....also analyse why there is a disagreement between these 2 factions, ALSO, have you seen a neg E.T?..
HAS ANYONE ELSE YOU TRUST SEEN A NEG E.T.
Discernment will get harder as we confront SANITY with INSANITY...REALITY with unreality...TRUTH with falsehood deception non sequiter....LOVE with hate/malevolence and REASON with disordered reason.
LOL
dominic

Originally Posted by Steven

This thread is interesting. A lot of sharing of different point of view.

Here is mine about Steven Greer.

He is not the same Steven Greer we knew with disclosure project. He has touched a very sensitive nerve in 2001. He got in touch with elite's puppets. He did not come back intact.

Or he has been threatened, or he has been implanted, or he is partially mentally controlled, or something else occurred that made him invite people in a dangerous direction. It might be a compound of all these suppositions. He might not be aware of that control himself.

I would really like to see someone asking him WHY he has called one of his new project; ORION project?

My take is that they are laughing at us how easy they can manipulate Hu-manity. They can manipulate a part of us, but not the divinity in us. This, in order to take total control has to be shut down. The good news is that instead of being shut down, it is waking up.

Trust your inner voice from the heart, not the head. Call it and ask it any question, give it some time and you'll have always an answer. This can not be misleading.

Namaste, Steven

[Steven]

If someone follow Greer's statement as all alien races are positive, you have to forget about several testimony and witnessing that tells the opposite.

Alex Collier's information is one major "public contactee" who certainly gives another point of view about it. Zecharia Sitchin research and analysis of the Sumerian tablets also point out that we are under a secretive alien intervention since thousand of years. Marsharl Vian Summers is another major "public contactee" who has written several books states that the major treat humanity is facing IS the alien intervention going on at this moment, involving our secret "rulers". The messages contained in the "handbooks for the new paradigm" received by George Green clearly state that we are facing an alien intervention calling them "dark force" (it does not look "positive" to me).

Several witnesses who came out publicly in 2001 with the disclosure projects were clearly showing our governments involved with alien in secret project and contracts (see also Dulce book). It is amazing to see Greer stating all alien are positive after hearing so many of his own witnesses saying quite the opposite!

Someone must ask him why he says that after listening his own "2001 witnesses"?

Jordan Maxwell (like him or not) researches has brought out the very same conclusion; Humanity is under an alien intervention...

Many others witnesses and whistleblowers are pointing out an alien intervention going on Earth at this moment. Claiming it is all wrong and all ETs are positive is definitely naive and dangerous. You can not simply swiping a whole lot of testimony and witnessing just for the matter of being "opened" to first contact.

We know most of the species are benevolent and are waiting for us to be awaken and aware of our galactic citizenship to make opened contact. Nevertheless, keep in mind there are alliances of alien who are opposing this and will not stop their influence over Earth easily. According to "Allies of humanity" several ETs lost their life bringing us this message. Nothing positive in killing the ones who wants to wake us up...

Ask Peggy Kane if all ETs are positive! Anyway... The list is quite long to clearly show we are under alien intervention and influence. It also shows some "humans" are on their side. I think Greer statement is part of the mental manipulation program we are facing. Now that "they" are about to be exposed, "they" prefer to appear as friendly... What a better subject than Greer himself to be carrier of this wonderful positive message...

Namaste, Steven

[371]

Greer is a douche.

That much is blatantly obvious about him seeing him interviewed or speak.

Not to mention, he charges thousands of dollars to for people to come hang out with him at his 'CE5' workshops, which include laying in a lawnchair staring at the sky while Greer summons UFOs with a flashlight.

That says it all for me, I need not look farther than that.

[NewParadigmGuy]

The man in the Manhunt solicitation is 40 years old, yet according to Wikipedia Greer is 54.

[DOMINIC 777]

hello 371
Charging money for the truth is wrong,quote:while Greer summons UFOs with a flashlight; all I say is how do they know it is his flashlight ?...,when millions of flashlights are used each night...as always I WILL KEEP AN OPEN MIND
lol
dominic

Originally Posted by 371

Greer is a douche.

That much is blatantly obvious about him seeing him interviewed or speak.

Not to mention, he charges thousands of dollars to for people to come hang out with him at his 'CE5' workshops, which include laying in a lawnchair staring at the sky while Greer summons UFOs with a flashlight.

That says it all for me, I need not look farther than that.

[Carol]

First off it is a laser light, not a flash light. Second, trashing others says more about you personally as a person then the person one is attempting to discredit.

[371]

Originally Posted by Carol

First off it is a laser light, not a flash light.

Ok, sorry. LASER LIGHT.


That is much better.

Second, trashing others says more about you personally as a person then the person one is attempting to discredit.

That is ok. I am the first to admit I can be a jerk.

If its one thing I can say for 100% FACT, is that I am never fake on here. Life is too short to be phony.

[TRANCOSO]

That is ok. I am the first to admit I can be a jerk.

Nice to read that the first intuitive idea I had about you, was correct.

[abraxasinas]

Hi All!

I have posted some scientific content on what Steven Greer 'seems' to be trying to convey about no 'bad' aliens.

I have worked on the science of consciousness for decades (I have a science degree, which is a bit old now from Queensland Australia in the 1980s), but specialise in pioneering mainstream standard models in physics (cosmology and particle physics).

Now the thing with Steven Greer was the following. I viewed the interview with Bill and Kerry and found Steven's comments in just about 95% line with my own work.
Then I watched his Barcelona (or Madrid?) representation and found a GENERAL convergence in his address with everything else know about through my own research.

I normally do not engage in 'persona' debates on public forums; but I experienced a resonating electromagnetic 'spark' when I viewed Greer's interview with Bill and Kerry.
This wasn't persona oriented, but related to what he said.
This is unusual (and I do converse with many people on an impersonal - just data -level) and therefore did I take the time to check things out.
Now today, reading much of your comments and the debates here and on the Bill Ryan thread; I learn about 'money' and 'sexual' issues about Steven Greer and this (in the former not the second as the second has rather important implications to 'harmonise' and to metamorphosise the 'old human' cosmic Id into a 'new starhuman' Id) of course does indeed ALLOW a kind of double-agent role wrt his proclaimed agenda.

Allow me to state, that I have tried to personally contact Steven Greer via his website and I shall refine my 'analysis' as to his integrity of stated purpose if and when I get a reply from him.
I shall inform the forum here about any developments.
I have also sent the post (to Steven Greer) to Bill and Kerry.

Lastly, allow me to state that there are wonderful people on this forum and whilst there seem to be some disagreements in interpreations; all contributions I have read derive from a well above the norm 'understanding of the true spirituality' inherent in all of the old human caterpillars who have fed enough to enter their cocoons to transform into a new and hitherto utopian 'butterflies of joy and love'.

There does exist a 'Secret of Humanity' and this 'secret' addresses your cosmic identies, both individually and collectively.
The difference between those two modes (you are all at more places simultaneously and your own doppelgaengers or shadows) - is at the basis of the 'good ET- - 'bad ET' dichotomy.

John Shadow

Originally Posted by 371

Not to mention, he charges thousands of dollars to for people to come hang out with him at his 'CE5' workshops, which include laying in a lawnchair staring at the sky while Greer summons UFOs with a flashlight.

If I would pay someone...large amounts of money...to observe that someone...blinking with his flashlight...and be disappointed with the result...u bet you could read all bout it in greatest detail online...

so....

Is there any place where one could read the opinions of the attendants of this meetings?

I am not saying yes or no here.... I just wish to know more...see more...

I have already expressed my opinion on this in other thread where I wrote (summary): it is utterly frustrating that all possible whistle blowers do not find a common ground to work on...

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by Spregovori

Is there any place where one could read the opinions of the attendants of this meetings?

The new CSETI book is exactly that, transcripts from the actual attendees of the Ambassadors To The Universe training retreats describing the multitude of anomalous phenomena they have directly experienced.

[371]

Originally Posted by Spregovori

Is there any place where one could read the opinions of the attendants of this meetings?

There is, actually. In fact, I think that is how I first heard about them before I looked into it way back when to verify if it was true.

Where did I see this? Couldn't tell you, it's been a while... but it's out there still I'm pretty sure of that.


Something to remember though, the ufo summoning or whatever he calls it... that is just a part of the larger BS package he sells. So I think that part is probably explained as 'just having fun' or something like that.

All these "UFO personalities" sell a BS package of some sort, and I'm not referring to material products. Their stories, theories, 'witnesses', etc.

Greer just happens to be one of the worst. And a douche to boot.

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by 371

Greer just happens to be one of the worst. And a douche to boot.

I'm not sure I follow your usage of the word douche here. My handy online dictionary defines it: a jet of liquid applied to a part of the body for cleansing or medicinal purposes.

So then from this, it seems soapy water applied just so could be be considered a douche. Maybe your mouth could use a good douche? Just a suggestion.

[371]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

Maybe your mouth could use a good douche? Just a suggestion.

Hahaha You are right.



Believe it or not though, that is my semi-polite way of saying it.... not the word I WANTED to use for sure.

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by Aloe

You jumped on the guy for using the word douche by suggesting he douche. That's funny.

I'm sorry, but is "by suggesting he douche" what you meant to say? Because it seems grammatically incomplete. try it again. Think back to the english classes I assume you attended.

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by Aloe

I thought you understood that 'douche' as a verb is a colloquialism.

Oh. I see the miscommunication. sorry. my mistake. I wasn't suggesting he douche, but rather that he "be douched". It makes sense now. Thanks. Ain't this fun?

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by 371

... which include laying in a lawnchair staring at the sky while Greer summons UFOs with a flashlight.

How can the above statement be established as fact or non-factual?

I'm very curious. That statement is quite interesting to say the least.

Does anyone have first-hand knowledge?

[eleni]

This may come off sounding paranoid- but research and experience has taught me over the course of 30 years studying this phenemenon that every sector is infiltrated......it's part of the way life on this planet operates and is controlled.

The *Disclosure* movement being infiltrated would not be an exception- If I were part of a negative ET faction I would most likely be infiltrating benign groups.

Human Illuminati on the planet operate the same way- it also creates confusion, chaos, disharmony......

Greer et al most likely never intended it and may not even be aware of what is happening.

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by eleni

This may come off sounding paranoid- but research and experience has taught me over the course of 30 years studying this phenemenon that every sector is infiltrated......it's part of the way life on this planet operates and is controlled.

The *Disclosure* movement being infiltrated would not be an exception- If I were part of a negative ET faction I would most likely be infiltrating benign groups.

Human Illuminati on the planet operate the same way- it also creates confusion, chaos, disharmony......

Greer et al most likely never intended it and may not even be aware of what is happening.

Hi Eleni.

Not paranoid. It's real in it's way. but what's usually missed these days, is that there are other ways to look and other places to look from. It really does boil down to perspective now, as new perspectives come available.

It's in the application of judgement that polarized conditions are held in place. What appears negative vs positive here, appears as the simple other side of a unified coin, elsewhere.

What is locked in life and death struggle here in polarity-ville, is a beatiful cosmic ballet from higher perspectives.

It's such delicious irony that rejecting negative polarity with prejudice, is what holds it apart from it's twin, the positive polarity, and thereby maintains the charged condition.

Of course it's real. Of course there is negativity. But it's a simple projection we place through our judgement. Balance and integration ends the stand off and sets music to the cosmic dance.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by 371

... he charges thousands of dollars to for people to come hang out with him at his 'CE5' workshops ...

What about this part? Does anyone have first-hand knowledge?

[abraxasinas]

Hi seashore!

I know what you are saying. The money angle is a great 'putoff'. The 'summoning' ufo however with 'any lights - even intentional thought concentration would suffice' is 'perfectly aligned' with my scientific understanding of how the ET phenomena should 'manifest' in a flat Euclidean Minkowski spacetime (its a 3D cross-section of a 4D space higherD cosmology - subject to inertia/frequency deceleration.

So the comments on the money angle here imo are valid, whilst the comments on the 'fake contacts' are not.

I found the comment in the Spain video about 'being inside an invisible' plasma-energy field of a craft highly confirmative of the spacetime realisations (and as related to individualised consciousness fields then tapping the 'universal information field as a basic physical quasi electromagnetic reality') and as indicated above.

JohnS

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Hi seashore!

I know what you are saying...

Actually, I'm not saying anything.

I'm asking a direct question.

[abraxasinas]

Ok sorry to have offended your sentiments and of misunderstanding your intents!

JohnS

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Ok sorry to have offended your sentiments and of misunderstanding your intents!

JohnS

I didn't mean to hint that you offended me! You didn't. Thanks for your kind reply...

I'm just really curious - does he charge thousands??