Are you a part of the New Age Movement?

[Initiate]

Originally Posted by arcora

now i see where we have the confusion

ok....and when did jc say he was here in peace and love?

please provide the chapter/verse

Ephesians 6:23

Peace be with you, dear brothers and sisters, and may God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you love with faithfulness.

[arcora]

Originally Posted by Initiate

Ephesians 6:23

Peace be with you, dear brothers and sisters, and may God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you love with faithfulness.

jc didn't say that...paul did

[Initiate]

Originally Posted by arcora

jc didn't say that...paul did

Jesus was at peace and showed universal love. His whole life was a demonstration of peace and love. Paul reported it and taught the example given. If ones whole life is a testomony does anything need to be said?

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by Initiate

Jesus was at peace and showed universal love. His whole life was a demonstration of peace and love. Paul reported it and taught the example given. If ones whole life is a testomony does anything need to be said?

Paul didn't say a word about Jesus life or his actions or his teachings, because they weren't special or noteworthy, all that stuff was made up, it's cookie cutter stuff, myth, born of a virgin hoot.

[371]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

Paul didn't say a word about Jesus life or his actions or his teachings, because they weren't special or noteworthy, all that stuff was made up, it's cookie cutter stuff, myth, born of a virgin hoot.

Keep thinking happy thoughts Tinkerbell....

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by 371

Keep thinking happy thoughts Tinkerbell....

Quote one thing, ONE THING, that Paul said that validates the story of Jesus the teacher or the virgin born savior, or whatever. NOTHING. Paul said NOTHING to validate the biblical gospel account of Jesus. NOTHING.

ALL OF THAT STUFF was made up after everyone was dead.

[371]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

ALL OF THAT STUFF was made up

And what is New Age?

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by 371

And what is New Age?

"I am the universe."

"Reality is God."

These would be the two most fundamental self-talk type cognitive understandings.

[371]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

"I am the universe."

"Reality is God."

These would be the two most fundamental self-talk type cognitive understandings.

Those two quotes right there, I read as putting oneself above GOD.

I take that meaning as, "I am everything"/"God is what we can see".
Maybe I'm not reading it right- but I think that's what I'm getting there...

And what the heck is a "self-talk type cognitive understanding"?



How about:

"God is everything, seen and unseen."

"Reality is an illusion"

?

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by 371

Those two quotes right there, I read as putting oneself above GOD.

The self as we are programmed to experience it is an illusion. A person is not a psychological entity.

Spiritual enlightenment dissolves the boundaries and identifications and conceptual structures, so that an adult is presence of Spirit, rather than Joe or Bob or whoever. Nobody is anybody, in Reality. We're all just the presence of the omnipresence.

Originally Posted by 371

And what the heck is a "self-talk type cognitive understanding"?

Like Christians use "Jesus loves me this I know" or whatever. Problem is, those things aren't true.

I am the universe is absolutely true. Reality is God is also absolutely true.

The great masters have said it and known it forever, but now it's been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

Originally Posted by 371

How about:

"God is everything, seen and unseen."

"Reality is an illusion"

The mind's remembrance and holding of what was, is what clouds the soul from perceiving what isn't.

What isn't is God.

We all come from the great Nothing, and are, ultimately the great nothing whence we came.

[Initiate]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

The self as we are programmed to experience it is an illusion. A person is not a psychological entity.

Spiritual enlightenment dissolves the boundaries and identifications and conceptual structures, so that an adult is presence of Spirit, rather than Joe or Bob or whoever. Nobody is anybody, in Reality. We're all just the presence of the omnipresence.



Like Christians use "Jesus loves me this I know" or whatever. Problem is, those things aren't true.

I am the universe is absolutely true. Reality is God is also absolutely true.

The great masters have said it and known it forever, but now it's been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.



The mind's remembrance and holding of what was, is what clouds the soul from perceiving what isn't.

What isn't is God.

We all come from the great Nothing, and are, ultimately the great nothing whence we came.

I am sure the Personality that I AM has a lot more to experience through this and higher dimensions. The Personality of First Source can never be known for that which is inside the universe can not view that which is outside in its entirity. We can but experience those parts of that personaltity that are among us. Each and every one of us.

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by Initiate

I am sure the Personality that I AM has a lot more to experience through this and higher dimensions. The Personality of First Source can never be known for that which is inside the universe can not view that which is outside in its entirity. We can but experience those parts of that personaltity that are among us. Each and every one of us.

It's always right now.

You are your experience, right now.

That's all you'll ever have or be, in Reality.

The New Age is about getting deeper and deeper into your soul, to merge with and be the Spirit, which is Reality, which is divine, and it turns out, FEMININE.

Mother Nature, Ma'at, is the divine creator.

[Initiate]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

It's always right now.

You are your experience, right now.

That's all you'll ever have or be, in Reality.

The New Age is about getting deeper and deeper into your soul, to merge with and be the Spirit, which is Reality, which is divine, and it turns out, FEMININE.

Mother Nature, Ma'at, is the divine creator.

All that is divided into the driving force (The Father) and insperation behind the creation and the creation itself (Mother). The universe without the Father is like a body without a soul.

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by Initiate

All that is divided into the driving force (The Father) and insperation behind the creation and the creation itself (Mother). The universe without the Father is like a body without a soul.

I don't know about the father, since he never spoke to me.

But I like the way you put it. Makes sense, I just have nothing to validate it.

Mother Nature spoke to me and arranged all kinds of date coincidences and stuff. I was on a mission, a sort of tirade, against the Bible God and religion, on a quest to find something new, to bring the world to accept nature, Reality, as God.

I was talking about the Goddess Ma'at with a scholar, and then a couple days later She speaks to me.

The irrefutably divine coincidences along with the voice, prove beyond any doubt that there is a divine Mother.

All I have to go on with a Father is theoretical and mythological.

[Initiate]

All to often the mother is left out of the big picture. I too have no physical interaction with the mother or the father. I have been on a journey led by the heart and glimpsed a fraction of what is. It Fits that there is the insperation behind what has become the universe and the Nuturing behind this that binds and holds it all together. It would be nice if your could share more of your experience with the devine Mother with us.

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by Initiate

It would be nice if your could share more of your experience with the devine Mother with us.

It's a ten year story, that is about to climax, about nine years in, She spoke to me. "I'm very angry... _______ cooking."

There was a word right before cooking, but it didn't sink in.

Otherwise the experiences were really really deep feelings, like of being in a womb, while I was literally a black hole after being psycho-tortured. Her voice came to me after five years helpless near death crippling. I guess I passed the test.

I sued the guy who tortured me, and the dates in the suit wound up to be miraculous signs.

Like they deposed me on Valentine's Day, then on 6/5/6 his attorney said in court, that he'd be in the office tomorrow to answer the interrogatories (6/6/6).

There are a hundred similar synchronicities, beyond imagination. I wrote a Reader's Digest version of the story, here.

http://www.lookyourheartinthemirror....hronicity.html

[arcora]

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[371]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

I don't know about the father, since he never spoke to me.

But I like the way you put it. Makes sense, I just have nothing to validate it.

Mother Nature spoke to me and arranged all kinds of date coincidences and stuff. I was on a mission, a sort of tirade, against the Bible God and religion, on a quest to find something new, to bring the world to accept nature, Reality, as God.

I was talking about the Goddess Ma'at with a scholar, and then a couple days later She speaks to me.

The irrefutably divine coincidences along with the voice, prove beyond any doubt that there is a divine Mother.

All I have to go on with a Father is theoretical and mythological.

OH I SEE NOW....

I'm going to share a quote from someone I once knew.... applies here i think.

"only the mirror grows so big for you. it's what you don't know. "

[Initiate]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

Paul didn't say a word about Jesus life or his actions or his teachings, because they weren't special or noteworthy, all that stuff was made up, it's cookie cutter stuff, myth, born of a virgin hoot.

You are saying that the Bible lied about Jesus and that his life was made up. Fair enough. That is your choice to make.

I ask you if you are willing to visit the following websites that contain reports not included in the bible but supporting his exisitence and his value to humanity.

http://www.christsway.co.za

and

www.askrealjesus.com

The point is the heart of the message resonates and does indicate how important the Son of Man and a Son of God is. For he was a man but came to free us from the shackles. To show us how our lives could be. I am saddened that many wars have been fought in his name and in vain. But I am certain he would not have sactioned them.

[arcora]

For he was a man but came to free us from the shackles. To show us how our lives could be.

agree 100%

and we killed him for it...

but to say that jc's life and teachings was anything like the new age stuff on youtube would probably lead him to unsheath that big ass sword of his...imo.

@new age messiah

posting your pic on the net.....big mistake

[Initiate]

Originally Posted by arcora

agree 100%

and we killed him for it...

but to say that jc's life and teachings was anything like the new age stuff on youtube would probably lead him to unsheath that big ass sword of his...imo.

@new age messiah

posting your pic on the net.....big mistake

good point. for it is the sword of truth that we await.

[arcora]

Originally Posted by Initiate

good point. for it is the sword of truth that we await.

if that helps you to sleep well at night...sure, why not...