2012 Ascension or Calamity??

[arcora]

does anyone here KNOW what's going to happen in 2012 or is it all speculation on copy/paste from other websites and regurgitated youtube vids?

[Steven]

Originally Posted by arcora

does anyone here KNOW what's going to happen in 2012 or is it all speculation on copy/paste from other websites and regurgitated youtube vids?

... What are you doing here?

Thanks Viking for the article, I'm reading it now.

Edit: I have read it all and it is a very important article. Thank you.

Namaste, Steven

[arcora]

Originally Posted by Steven

... What are you doing here?

Namaste, Steven

asking a question

[Steven]

Originally Posted by arcora

asking a question

It looks like asking a question, but it is not. You are looking for arguing, are you?

Namaste, Steven

[mikey]

To be honest i think we all know whats going to happen in 2012 or 2017 or even our last day in this incarnation...the problem is most of us are trying to remember. Some of us dont want to. Some have other agendas altogether. Take your negativity somewhere else for its far from welcome here. Peace always, mikey

[arcora]

Originally Posted by Steven

It looks like asking a question, but it is not. You are looking for arguing, are you?

Namaste, Steven

not at all.

it was an honest question, hoping for an honest response.

haven't gotten any as of yet.

[Steven]

Originally Posted by arcora

not at all.

it was an honest question, hoping for an honest response.

haven't gotten any as of yet.

Sorry, but no, it was not an honest question with the intention your are describing. So no honest question, no honest answer.

Namaste, steven

[viking]

Originally Posted by arcora

does anyone here KNOW what's going to happen in 2012 or is it all speculation on copy/paste from other websites and regurgitated youtube vids?

Hi Arcora

Have you not read the original post within this thread...?? It's neither copy or pasted!!! ... MY WORDS.

If you haven't read it please do.

As to what we know or believe might happen. I don't think there is a single person on this planet who could honestly say they know exactly what will happen...this is why we are all here to learn truths and pick up knowledge from each other. There are many ideas floating around and we are picking up pieces and trying connect the dots. If you have any input with reagrds to this topic please share.

viking

[yiolas]

Originally Posted by viking

Hi Arcora

Have you not read the original post within this thread...?? It's neither copy or pasted!!! ... MY WORDS.

If you haven't read it please do.

As to what we know or believe might happen. I don't think there is a single person on this planet who could honestly say they know exactly what will happen...this is why we are all here to learn truths and pick up knowledge from each other. There are many ideas floating around and we are picking up pieces and trying connect the dots. If you have any input with reagrds to this topic please share.

viking

Well put Viking, as usual. Arcora,It is essential that people do the ground work to learn and absorb for themselves what 2012 is all about, because it is more than a 3d material world shift. It is a shift in human consciousness. Each person has to follow his own path.

As for the movie 2012, I too expected more. It did not even touch on the spiritual aspect of what 2012 is about. They had a great opportunity to spread the word about the ongoing process of our human consciousness evolution and they blew it. What a shame.

[morguana]

just had to pop this on your thread viking....
love bou x

[viking]

Thanks Yiolas .... and Boudy thank for the Piccie...



viking

[housemouse2]

Originally Posted by arcora

does anyone here KNOW what's going to happen in 2012 or is it all speculation on copy/paste from other websites and regurgitated youtube vids?

First I would like to say I am not a doctor, whistle blower, highly educated or have any actual sources. I am a homes maker, mother.

I will say that my friends think I am a psychic, medium, whatever you wish to call it. I don't like to use those terms because they are too limited in definition.

I will make my own "prediction" for what it's worth. (Needles to say I don't make any money at this.)

1st...2012 is not the right date. It's off, it's wrong. Nothing will happen on dec 23 2012. It might snow in NYS but that's about it.

2nd...sorry but there is no "enlightenment" coming. No ascension and no horrific chaotic event to mark the end of the world either. No magical being from another planet will come down to earth and make those "worthy" ascend to a higher level. "Ascension" can only be accomplished by the individual and no single date will make that happen. It takes thousands of years for a "soul" to ascend to that level.

3rd...there are a number of "outside" issues going on. Earth has just become a cross roads on a galactic scale. The method of space travel is based on a simple yet effective string theory. Kind of like a rail road system. It's already in place and these "strings" connect like rail roads or highways. A main road has been lost. It collapsed, broke, whatever you want to call it. Now the next main "roadway" goes right through earth space and the amount of travel earth will get will increase 10 to 100 fold in the next year.

due to this galactic highway the stakes for earth are higher. Whoever controls these galactic pathways gets a lot of power. Kind of control over a toll road. Whoever collects the tolls gets more money, power, ect.

there is gonna be some issues on a galactic scale which is centered on earth's galactic toll booth. some beings want earth to have claim to this 'toll booth" while others want to claim this resource for themselves because we are too "primitive" in their mind.

earth also has population of "hybrid" humans. humans who also have genetics from one of the other races...Hindu called it Ayah. Hitler named it Aryan. They are technically under some sort of galactic law the "owners" of earth. so, something is cooking on some sort of galactic scale.

4th...if there is gonna be a mass landing the first landing is fake. The second would be real. Have no idea what that means.

5th...look for something with the sun to happen. Mass power outage of some sort.

6th...date I keep getting in my mind is june 2010. Don't know why.

[viking]

Thanks Housemouse...some interesting points...

And thanks Yiolas for your kind words...

Here's another great video from our David... You might feel a bit of a nana doing the meditational process....but it works.

Edit...DRAT I've just realized David has posted this already on another thread...OH WELL!!! Cheers david a few more views for you..ha ha Happy Xmas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdkvFk5F9P0

viking

[viking]

Maslow Predicted the Shift

by Owen Waters

Abraham Maslow (1908-70) was a psychologist who became famous for his hierarchy of human needs. When he developed his theory in the 1950s, he predicted the transformation of humanity into a realm of spiritual transcendence, but he had no idea just how soon this would develop into a major movement..

Maslow's hierarchy of human needs shows that basic human needs have to be fulfilled before people can attend to higher needs and values.

First, the basic physiological needs of food and shelter must be catered for in order to ensure survival.

Second, once food and shelter are obtained, safety and security must be achieved.

Third, acceptance by others is sought, in both the social and romantic senses. To fulfill this 'belonging' need, people become part of a group, a tribe, an extended family or a community.

When these deficiency, or outer-directed, needs are satisfied, then the individual works to acquire self-respect. Recognition by others produces self-esteem.

Once the outer needs are fulfilled, the inner-directed need for self-actualization comes into play. To self-actualize means to become the best you personally can be.

Self-actualized people include those who have achieved material abundance, and also those who, as a decision of personal power, have chosen simplicity over the pursuit of further abundance. At some point, when a person says, "That's enough" to the endless pursuit of additional financial security, then they become free to accomplish anything that inspires their inner joy the most.



Self-actualization is achieved after the individual ceases to have deference to hierarchical authority, and instead matures into the ability to make their own rules of personal responsibility. Personal responsibility is always more powerful and effective than any system of imposed rules. For example, you can threaten to punish someone if they steal and hope that the threat works. But, a self-responsible person simply wouldn't steal because they would feel empathy for the loss that a would-be victim would feel. They simply wouldn't have the heart to do such a thing to another person.

It's a matter of increased maturity. When a person abandons the impositions of external authority and becomes their own, self-directed authority, then they become far more functional in the world. This is, in fact, a higher state of consciousness, one which provides a higher vista of awareness. From this expanded vista, they see clearly how they as an individual can best serve humanity.

In this state of awareness, the person acquires the ability to think and analyze situations independently. As a result, new and creative solutions spring to mind. They have enough self-esteem to be able to clearly see their own needs, skills, strengths and weaknesses, and from that they see where they can best be of service to humanity.

Once basic needs are fulfilled, the next values to require attention relate to being. The first of these being-values is self-actualization, which is the instinctual need of a human to make the most of their unique abilities.

Above that, Maslow placed transcendence, which he considered a spiritual value. Traditional universities typically presume that spiritual matters are beyond the understanding of their students, so they present the Maslow hierarchy of human needs differently. They present it with self-actualization as the ultimate human goal, and omit the transcendence stage beyond that.

The being-values of self-actualization and transcendence are the higher, more beautiful aspects of human consciousness. They include unconditional love, altruism, inner joy, a love of nature, the development of intuition (in males as well as females), idealism, and a sense of wisdom which springs from within. These skills develop the right-brain functions of creativity and intuition.

In the 1950s, Maslow believed that only 2% of the population had achieved self-actualization. The mid-1960s changed all that when masses of people began the search for the higher values, such as unconditional love and spiritual wisdom. Today, that core group of progressive society has blossomed from 2% to over 20%, and is climbing every year.

The Shift is not a temporary by-product of the baby boom generation, or any other generation of modern society. It is not a passing fad. It is not going away. It is a cosmic pressure that is unfolding and relentlessly increasing the frequency of all consciousness upon the planet.

It is a part of the plan of Infinite Being that we progress to the next stage of conscious human achievement. The Shift is, to put it simply, the most wonderful transformation in recorded history. This is where humanity gets to build, literally, Heaven on Earth.

____________ _________ _________ _________ ______

Owen Waters is an international spiritual teacher who has helped hundreds of thousands of spiritual seekers to understand better the nature of their inner being and their infinite potential. For more than forty years, his life has focused upon gaining spiritual insights through extensive research and the development of his inner vision.

He writes a spiritual metaphysics newsletter that empowers people to discover their own new vistas of inspiration, love and creativity. Spiritual seekers enjoy his writings for their insight and clarity.

Owen Waters' first book, The Shift: The Revolution in Human Consciousness was published in November 2005.

viking

[WineHippie]

wow viking, this reads like the imaginary checklist
i made when packing to "run away from home", almost
a year ago....

Originally Posted by viking

Maslow

Maslow's hierarchy of human needs shows that basic human needs have to be fulfilled before people can attend to higher needs and values.

First, the basic physiological needs of food and shelter must be catered for in order to ensure survival.

check

Second, once food and shelter are obtained, safety and security must be achieved.

check

Third, acceptance by others is sought, in both the social and romantic senses. To fulfill this 'belonging' need, people become part of a group, a tribe, an extended family or a community.

check

When these deficiency, or outer-directed, needs are satisfied, then the individual works to acquire self-respect. Recognition by others produces self-esteem.

check

simplicity over the pursuit of further abundance. At some point, when a person says, "That's enough" to the endless pursuit of additional financial security, then they become free to accomplish anything that inspires their inner joy the most.

this is key

Personal responsibility

and this is a biggie

...transcendence, which he considered a spiritual value. Traditional universities typically presume that spiritual matters are beyond the understanding of their students, so they present the Maslow hierarchy of human needs differently. They present it with self-actualization as the ultimate human goal, and omit the transcendence stage beyond that.

traditional universities hide much truth and twist the rest

Heaven on Earth.

this is what i envision back to OP, i'll place my bet on ascension

[viking]

Thanks Winehippie for your input...much appreciated...

"On 12-21-2012, according to the frequently quoted Mayan prophecies the end of time shall take place. However, "end of time" in their perspective doesnt mean the "end of the world" as being misinterpreted by some. Even though currently everything is undergoing massive change, this global transformation process at the end (of time) will turn out to be very much necessary, as it pushes us towards a turnaround."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCLjo...222&feature=iv

viking

[Swanny]

I wonder if anyone on this planet is truly awake????
I'm sure many think they are but I wonder if any are.
I like to think I am more awake than some but I also know that there is no way of telling just how awake we can be

[rfebres]

2012: A window of opportunity for humanity

2012: Transitional period for making a personal choice

2012: Beacon to a potential critical mass of the collective consciousness

2012: A gentle wave of affirmation for some

2012: A tsunami for others

What will it be for you?

Love and Peace in learning


Roland