Last Try (I suspect, in vein. Hope I am wrong.)...

[WarriorServant]

cloud9,

I am not "fighting" people who do not agree with me. I have absolutely no idea how you believe that to be the case. All the "squabbling" is over me trying to get people to stay on topic and stop accusing me of things I didn't even do or say (outside their perceptions). I am literally clueless. Maybe you could find an example?

I am also interested for you to point out where I have forced people to "swallow" the Bible as the whole truth. I've never said that. I've never implied it. I don't even BELIEVE that. So, again, I'm clueless. Any examples?

Am I fighting "now"? No, I am correcting you. That's all I am ever doing around this place, and I'm going to have to continue until people get off my back and stop saying things that simply aren't true. You are asserting that I am doing things, saying and projecting things that I am not.

The ONLY thing I am asserting is that I want to tell my story, but I cannot explain my story and how I see things without mentioning God, Jesus and the Bible. It does not concern me if people believe me or not. I can't control that. Nor do I wish to. Nowhere on this entire forum have I complained (even once) of whether people believe me or not.

Al I want is for people to be sincere and genuine, and partake in frank and open conversation, without purposefully pulling my topics to the ground, and then wanting to go back to the tired old religious debates. I KNOW people are understanding my disdain, but few ill own up to it because it's too much fun.

I've said it once. I've said it twice, I'm saying it again. All I want is for people to let their hangups and perceptions about "the Bible" go, and stop accusing me of force feeding it to people. I didn't come here to preach, I came here to participate on the forum with my stories.

Regarding answering in my threads.. I've given up. I'm not replying in any of them anymore (at this moment in time). I can't continue with ANYTHING, until "enough" people get my whole point here that all the accusations against me and what I am purporting to be doing (wrong) is all false and baseless.

Only then can I resume replying and participating in the forum -- in peace (hopefully). At this moment in time, I do not even consider myself a member, I'm just posting in this thread, waiting for enough people to say:

"Ok, ok.. go and have your say, we'll listen and try to keep on topic"..

That's all I want. It's really all I want.

Nevertheless, I have taken note of your information about Mrs. Cannon and I intend to research it. I will respond to it after that (assuming that I'm still bothering with this forum).

[Céline]

"I am not "fighting" people who do not agree with me. I have absolutely no idea how you believe that to be the case. All the "squabbling" is over me trying to get people to stay on topic and stop accusing me of things I didn't even do or say (outside their perceptions). I am literally clueless. Maybe you could find an example"


I declare War

THAT is what removes ANY credibility you have...in my opinion...makes ANYTHING you write, invalid

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by Céline

"I am not "fighting" people who do not agree with me. I have absolutely no idea how you believe that to be the case. All the "squabbling" is over me trying to get people to stay on topic and stop accusing me of things I didn't even do or say (outside their perceptions). I am literally clueless. Maybe you could find an example"


I declare War

THAT is what removes ANY credibility you have...in my opinion...makes ANYTHING you write, invalid

We are in a war Céline. Whether you like it or not, we're all in a war. And I DO declare war. On "what" is specified more clearly in the original post of this thread.

[Angel in Disguise]

I have been on this site since day one and have never seen someone throw such a hissy fit about getting their story told... If you have something to tell us then tell us. It really is that simple... If you don't like how people react then ignore them... Simple strategy but you keep making it sooooo complicated

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by Angel in Disguise

I have been on this site since day one and have never seen someone throw such a hissy fit about getting their story told... If you have something to tell us then tell us. It really is that simple... If you don't like how people react then ignore them... Simple strategy but you keep making it sooooo complicated

I have already tried. I got tackled to the ground by a hoard of God haters and every thread became a complete mockery and circus having absolutely NOTHING to do with the topic.

I am trying to get the administration and moderators of the forum to realise that there's a problem and to take action to keep things more serious and intelligent before I am able to resume posting.

I am doing EVERYTHING I can to instigate a more appropriate spirit on this forum, but it's not going well. My best guess is that I will not be posting here for much longer.

[Angel in Disguise]

So why don't you just tell your story ???

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by Angel in Disguise

So why don't you just tell your story ???

Nice try.. answer is above in the original post.

[cloud9]

I am also interested for you to point out where I have forced people to "swallow" the Bible as the whole truth. I've never said that. I've never implied it. I don't even BELIEVE that. So, again, I'm clueless. Any examples?

Am I fighting "now"? No, I am correcting you. That's all I am ever doing around this place, and I'm going to have to continue until people get off my back and stop saying things that simply aren't true. You are asserting that I am doing things, saying and projecting things that I am not.

About your replay I just want to say:
I never said "you" were forcing people to swallow the bible, please read again and you'll see I was talking in general, I said "people".
You don't need to correct me or anybody else, a forum is a place where people give their opinions and comunicate with others interested in the same subject.
You truly remaind me of the gay guy in the movie "The Secret" who was convinced everybody was against him and his life was miserable because of that until he decided to think the opposite was true, he stopped fighting and feeling attacked and everything changed. All I'm trying to do is helping you to see that perhaps with a different approach your message would be heard for everybody but at the end it's your decision.
I'm not attacking you in any way, more so I'm very interested in your experiences if you decide to tell them, why not stop fighting and resisting and just talk?
By the way, I don't understand how from my post you can say that I'm asserting you are doing things, saying and projecting things that you are not. All I'm trying to do is encouraging you to finally deliver the message but also to take a look at your attitude, perhaps you'll be able to see where the problem is.
Anyway, again I need to tell you I think you are a messenger and I'm sure a special one so why not just to say it like it is and let people do whatever they want to do with it?
You are tuly a warrior.
Peace.

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by cloud9

I am also interested for you to point out where I have forced people to "swallow" the Bible as the whole truth. I've never said that. I've never implied it. I don't even BELIEVE that. So, again, I'm clueless. Any examples?

Am I fighting "now"? No, I am correcting you. That's all I am ever doing around this place, and I'm going to have to continue until people get off my back and stop saying things that simply aren't true. You are asserting that I am doing things, saying and projecting things that I am not.

About your replay I just want to say:
I never said "you" were forcing people to swallow the bible, please read again and you'll see I was talking in general, I said "people".
You don't need to correct me or anybody else, a forum is a place where people give their opinions and comunicate with others interested in the same subject.
You truly remaind me of the gay guy in the movie "The Secret" who was convinced everybody was against him and his life was miserable because of that until he decided to think the opposite was true, he stopped fighting and feeling attacked and everything changed. All I'm trying to do is helping you to see that perhaps with a different approach your message would be heard for everybody but at the end it's your decision.
I'm not attacking you in any way, more so I'm very interested in your experiences if you decide to tell them, why not stop fighting and resisting and just talk?
By the way, I don't understand how from my post you can say that I'm asserting you are doing things, saying and projecting things that you are not. All I'm trying to do is encouraging you to finally deliver the message but also to take a look at your attitude, perhaps you'll be able to see where the problem is.
Anyway, again I need to tell you I think you are a messenger and I'm sure a special one so why not just to say it like it is and let people do whatever they want to do with it?
You are tuly a warrior.
Peace.

Everything here is answered in the original topic.

[100thmonkey]

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

At this moment in time, I do not even consider myself a member, I'm just posting in this thread, waiting for enough people to say:

"Ok, ok.. go and have your say, we'll listen and try to keep on topic"..

That's all I want. It's really all I want.

How many is enough? All of us?

What's stopping you just doing it anyway?

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by 100thmonkey

How many is enough? All of us?

What's stopping you just doing it anyway?

Read the initial post. It's all there. If you haven't read it, you shouldn't be replying.

[JesterTerrestrial]

I have been told, many times, to simply "spit it out". I've been told to stop playing the victim and just say what ever it is I have to say.

Thats actually not a bad idea. You seem to be going on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about things you don't want! And what you would do. So for real why not do it.

Start a new thread with a topic other then a desperate last try and talk about something real! I know you will get reply's to your topic. But please do refrain from writing extra long posts that start off with a threat of war and then as i said endless complaining of how much life sux around here.

Welcome to the team! I really mean that.

Peace JT

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by JesterTerrestrial

Thats actually not a bad idea. You seem to be going on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about things you don't want! And what you would do. So for real why not do it.

Start a new thread with a topic other then a desperate last try and talk about something real! I know you will get reply's to your topic. But please do refrain from writing extra long posts that start off with a threat of war and then as i said endless complaining of how much life sux around here.

Welcome to the team! I really mean that.

Peace JT

I have TRIED to make topics before. They always go the same way. The context of the thread is ignored and a hoard of Bible haters are allowed to hijack the thread and turn it in to reasons all about why they hate the Bible and religion. If there wasn't a problem, I wouldn't be complaining about it.

I'm not starting ONE more serious thread about any of my life experiences or concerns until this problem is settled.

Further, I have already answered your response within the original post.

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

The context of the thread is ignored and a hoard of Bible haters are allowed to hijack the thread and turn it in to reasons all about why they hate the Bible and religion. If there wasn't a problem, I wouldn't be complaining about it.

WarriorServant,

You need to understand that most people are here to discuss certain things and to avoid discussing other things. I am sure most people are respectful if you're religious, but from what they've seen, they don't want to hear that kind of message, and that's something you either don't realize, or do realize but are insistent upon sharing your truth anyway.

Bottom line, its a matter of energy, and your vibes have been mostly negative, be a little more positive friend.

If my memory serves correct, aren't you the one who says there is only "one truth"? Because I'd also disagree with that.

If you perceive Bible haters (as you say) on this forum, then why continue participating in such a forum?

There are many other places to find souls just like yourself, help validate your belief system, and in this case I think it would be a positive thing.

Because obviously, judging simply from the titles of your threads... there is actually no room in your book for others who don't accept and go as far to criticize.

You either debate with positivity and speaking in short concise terms; leaving the reader with a good impression of your message overall. Or, you find somewhere there is No criticism, no disagreement with your views, and life goes on happily ever after.

Merry Christmas,

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by Majorion

WarriorServant,

You need to understand that most people are here to discuss certain things and to avoid discussing other things. I am sure most people are respectful if you're religious, but from what they've seen, they don't want to hear that kind of message, and that's something you either don't realize, or do realize but are insistent upon sharing your truth anyway.

I AM NOT RELIGIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't HAVE a "MESSAGE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have life experiences that I want to discuss (where I can't HELP but mention the Bible God or Jesus).

Originally Posted by Majorion

Bottom line, its a matter of energy, and your vibes have been mostly negative, be a little more positive friend.

Where have I not been positive?

I am a positive person who posts things for how I see them.

Originally Posted by Majorion

If my memory serves correct, aren't you the one who says there is only "one truth"? Because I'd also disagree with that.

Yes, I believe there's ONE truth in all circumstances. People can't have different truths. They can only have different perceptions of truth. But there's always one truth. There can NEVER be more than one truth. Saying that there's more than one truth is New Age mumbo jumbo. It's like saying that a "point" has "two points".

Originally Posted by Majorion

If you perceive Bible haters (as you say) on this forum, then why continue participating in such a forum?

Because I didn't come here to talk about the Bible. I came here to talk about my life experiences (which happen to include spiritual messages I received due to reading the Bible). I can't say what I have experienced in life unless I mention God, Jesus and the Bible.

Originally Posted by Majorion

There are many other places to find souls just like yourself, help validate your belief system, and in this case I think it would be a positive thing.

I am NOT after validation of a "belief" system! Why do you think I am after validation of my belief system? Where did I say that? Where are my posts declaring an list of beliefs with an assertion that everyone should be following them? What are you talking about?

Originally Posted by Majorion

Because obviously, judging simply from the titles of your threads... there is actually no room in your book for others who don't accept and go as far to criticize.

WHAT ARE YOU {{{TALKING}}} ABOUT? My threads have never gotten off the ground long far enough to even have the POSSIBILITY to disagree with anyone.

Originally Posted by Majorion

You either debate with positivity and speaking in short concise terms; leaving the reader with a good impression of your message overall. Or, you find somewhere there is No criticism, no disagreement with your views, and life goes on happily ever after.

I'm lost on what your point is. Nowhere, ever, not even once, did I EVER complain about people not agreeing with me. All I want is for people to stay on topic and stop injecting things that I didn't even DO, SAY, BELIEVE OR PROMOTE into responses.

[robyn]

Warrior, what is just one thing, one insight you want to share? It doesn't have to be one of a major complicated insight.

Start with a short simple one.

In anticipation,
Robyn

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by robyn

Warrior, what is just one thing, one insight you want to share? It doesn't have to be one of a major complicated insight.

Start with a short simple one.

In anticipation,
Robyn

I have tried on this forum, but the threads keep turning into a religious debate.

I am just trying to make everyone see that there needs to be better moderation on the forum to insist people stay on topic and stop the consensus that it's ok to beat on the Jesus guy.

Once we can all get THERE, I can post a lot of stories all about my life -- many of which I am quite sure people will be interested in. But I just cannot do that unless people learn to stay on topic and stop accusing me of beliefs that I don't hold and didn't promote.

[Céline]

Oh so your point is the moderating of the site sux...well that will get you far..lol

ok ok i need to go laugh somewhere else...you seem to revel int his negativity WS...do enjoy it...

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by Céline

Oh so your point is the moderating of the site sux...well that will get you far..lol

ok ok i need to go laugh somewhere else...you seem to revel int his negativity WS...do enjoy it...

I am not reveling in anything.

I have a SINCERE and GENUINE problem, unlike all the people in this thread posting sarcasm and mockery.

The moderators and administrators of this forum need to seriously review how it allows members to behave.

You have responded to this thread many times, but you have offered nothing constructive -- just a heap of negative and insulting digs and pokes.

You have contributed absolutely nothing towards the concerns I have outlined in the original post.

You are yet another one of the mob, beating on the guy who everyone else is beating on. You're actually enjoying it. I can tell you. You're not sincere. You're just happy to watch someone squirm.

That's the truth right there.

Problem is I don't squirm. I'll stand here and stick to my word, no matter how many people gang up and abuse me. That doesn't make me the one with the problem. It makes anyone who joins a mob to beat on a sole person the ones with the real problem.

Just because I am alone here, copping abuse, it does not make me the one who is wrong. You all know tat too -- but you don't care.

I have my chin up high...

NEXT insult..

I'll just keep flapping my arms until someone realises the true spirit of this forum.

ONE person can defeat a million if he is sincere.

Keep bashing people..

Bash me until you're exhausted..

I will be still standing here.

When ONE person sticks up for my concerns (which are sincere and founded) and doesn't join the mob, I will respect you.

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

I am just trying to make everyone see that there needs to be better moderation on the forum to insist people stay on topic and stop the consensus that it's ok to beat on the Jesus guy.

You do realize that its really the Jesus guy who is actually beating on other people, right?

You keep saying we're off-topic. Would you please tell me what this topic is? What is it you want us to discuss here?

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by Majorion

You do realize that its really the Jesus guy who is actually beating on other people, right?

You keep saying we're off-topic. Would you please tell me what this topic is? What is it you want us to discuss here?

Read the original post and reply to it.

[robyn]

Well Warrior,I was interested in what you had to say but if you don't feel this is going to work for you, I understand.

Consider that if this forum is not already set up in a way that will work for you, this may not be the forum in which to express your insights.
There are many forums on the net and it will be far easier to find another one that already meets your specifications more closely. This one is highly unlikely to make the changes that work for you. It is what it is. Accept that and move on.

It's a little like going to another country and insisting natives accomodate you rather than adapting to the customs there - as poor as those customs may be.

All the best,
Robyn

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

I have tried on this forum, but the threads keep turning into a religious debate.

I am just trying to make everyone see that there needs to be better moderation on the forum to insist people stay on topic and stop the consensus that it's ok to beat on the Jesus guy.

Once we can all get THERE, I can post a lot of stories all about my life -- many of which I am quite sure people will be interested in. But I just cannot do that unless people learn to stay on topic and stop accusing me of beliefs that I don't hold and didn't promote.

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by robyn

Well Warrior,I was interested in what you had to say but if you don't feel this is going to work for you, I understand.

Consider that if this forum is not already set up in a way that will work for you, this may not be the forum in which to express your insights.
There are many forums on the net and it will be far easier to find another one that already meets your specifications more closely. This one is highly unlikely to make the changes that work for you. It is what it is. Accept that and move on.

It's a little like going to another country and insisting natives accomodate you rather than adapting to the customs there - as poor as those customs may be.

All the best,
Robyn

I do not have any specifications except for a request for people to stay sincere and stay on topic. I wish that to be backed up by proper moderation.

[Initiate]

Originally Posted by WarriorServant

I have TRIED to make topics before. They always go the same way. The context of the thread is ignored and a hoard of Bible haters are allowed to hijack the thread and turn it in to reasons all about why they hate the Bible and religion. If there wasn't a problem, I wouldn't be complaining about it.

I'm not starting ONE more serious thread about any of my life experiences or concerns until this problem is settled.

Further, I have already answered your response within the original post.

Before you start sharing your truth could you please point out posts that are from bible haters? This seems to be at the heart of your problem with the forum. You are free to use what ever reference material you desire is that not correct guys? The bible is respected by a lot of people here. A Minority say it is a complete falsehood. So what. that's their choice. It shouldn't stop you sharing your truth and relating it to the bible.

Will your next post be defending your right to free speech (which you already have) or will it be continuing to share your story? The right to free speech has to go hand in hand with the right for people to choose to believe. It's up to you. Are you the war monger or the peach bringer? Will you serve the forum or will you fight it?

[WarriorServant]

Originally Posted by Initiate

Before you start sharing your truth could you please point out posts that are from bible haters? This seems to be at the heart of your problem with the forum. You are free to use what ever reference material you desire is that not correct guys? The bible is respected by a lot of people here. A Minority say it is a complete falsehood. So what. that's their choice. It shouldn't stop you sharing your truth and relating it to the bible.

Will your next post be defending your right to free speech (which you already have) or will it be continuing to share your story? The right to free speech has to go hand in hand with the right for people to choose to believe. It's up to you. Are you the war monger or the peach bringer?

This particular thread has not been created for me to share any stories. It is a last ditch attempt to have people realise that topics need to stay "on topic" or when serious people want to post about serious things, the thread can easily get hijacked (as mine are). You want evidence? Go see my threads. You'll be shocked.

Everything else is outlined clearly in the original post of this thread.