Warning: VERY CONTROVERSIAL - holocaust

[371]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

Have you always known the truth ? If so, does it not bother you to continue to push the wrong ideas off on the world ?

out of sight, out of mind is the way the world is and its time for them to realize that we are living a blatan lie here.

Nazi atrocities? YES always have known, it is my heritige.

Living a blatant lie? No, didn't always know. And certainly not just how much of it is a lie.

Out of sight, out of mind indeed. Most people simply don't care, until it effects them personally.

Then they are upset, and cry about it. That is like a rocking chair- gives them something to do but doesn't get them anywhere.

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by 371

Nazi atrocities? YES always have known, it is my heritige.

Living a blatant lie? No, didn't always know. And certainly not just how much of it is a lie.

Out of sight, out of mind indeed. Most people simply don't care, until it effects them personally.

Then they are upset, and cry about it. That is like a rocking chair- gives them something to do but doesn't get them anywhere.

Yes, I am upset about this. I can't imagine that I am alone with my feelings.

But apparently its fitting to let the world go along their way and accept the fact there is nothing we can do about this now so forget it.


I dont feel that way, I didnt know all of this and yes it is very hard to comprehend the scope of what happened and I dont care if it happened 100 years ago. People still walk around with their heads in the cloud believing their stories.

Its time for the world to open their eyes and see who did this and why.
Because it is still happening. Or do you think the Holocaust was a one time thing ?

I just find your last response pretty harsh and hope that more people will wake up to the truth now that word is getting out to us.

It matters regardless of those that have always known. It matters alot

[mntruthseeker]

I just happened to run into this today and felt I must put it here for all the people that feel that this thread was based on Untruths or that it shouldn't of even been started

REVISIONISTS

Revisionists - Men & Women of Heart & Soul.flv From: FredrickToben | December 24, 2009 | 140 views 1. This is an incomplete compilation of Revisionists who have dared to confront the Hoax of the 20th Century - the Jewish Holocaust-Shoah lies because of their love for truth, among other topics.
2. Remember, anyone who thinks and absorbs new information, then refuses to fudge the books because the new information threatens their world view, is a Revisionist.
3. Holocaust believers are either ignorant of the physical facts, liars or both, and that is why they legally persecute anyone who refuses to believe in their lies.
4. For many the maxim still holds - the truth hurts, but don't look for a scapegoat.
5. Life's lesson is - get over it and liberate yourself through hard mental work from your own mental conceptual prison - Arbeit macht Frei. ... (more info)



http://www.youtube.com/user/Fredrick.../0/WB27ecKd-3o

[derpif]

Wow I`m so upset now.
Never thought that there are people on this site dumb enough to even discuss this. Sorry.
I`m from Germany and my mother was born in 1935. My Grandmother was born 1911. I know from first hand witness accounts that it happened.
No one here in Germany, except the f#cking Neo-Nazis, would discuss this seriously.
I don`t find words for the ignorance and stupidity to post this eXchanger.

derpif

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by derpif

Wow I`m so upset now.
Never thought that there are people on this site dumb enough to even discuss this. Sorry.
I`m from Germany and my mother was born in 1935. My Grandmother was born 1911. I know from first hand witness accounts that it happened.
No one here in Germany, except the f#cking Neo-Nazis, would discuss this seriously.
I don`t find words for the ignorance and stupidity to post this eXchanger.

derpif

NO ONE HERE, is disputing it did NOT happen

everyone here is in absolute agreement, it did

what we are discussing is how wide spread are these holocausts ???

(what was NOT recorded in history)

and, how much more truth is there, to dig for ???

SO IT DOES NOT HAPPEN AGAIN ~ WHAT CAN WE ALL DO,
as part of humanity-who care NOT to have a repeat performance of things like this ???

i have interesting german lineage,
that can be tracked back to 1150ad

we also lived through, a lot of 'hatred' towards
having a german last name, that was discussed yesterday,
at Xmas, to get lengths

so~you don't have to tell me, it happened

WE KNOW iT HAPPENED

in a discovery for 'real' truth

HOW eXpansive was it ???

that is what we are debating

and, how it is, we might all advert it happening again !!!

that is what we are discussing here

WE REPEAT, WE DID NOT WRITE THAT ARTICLE

THERE is a lot of war going on ~ between draco blood/and, elven blood

are you aware of that ???

and, german people were transported - or, choose to run
to advert, getting slaughtered

some even ran from russia/to poland/to france and, into germany-and, onto others parts of the world

many, many people lost their lives ~ most never got to talk about it

although, some do whisper in The Trinity/or The Trine of The Ethers....

that is what we are discussing !!!

[THE eXchanger]

some chickens ~ aligned with churches
instead of keeping their chosen belief systems
to save their lives

did you know, some germans, converted to jews
prior to 1900, as, they thought that was safer
and, relocated to CHE REP

[THE eXchanger]

when they say st. patrick slayed snakes in ireland

we are NOT talking about the type that slitter on the ground

the catholic/and, pros. still fight in ireland, even today

prior the 2/3rd century - the catholic church didn't even eXist

[derpif]

Then go ahead and discuss how ExPANSIVE it was, I don`t care.
There is no difference if 6.000.000 or 3.000.000 people died.
Maybe I don`t get the point here.

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by derpif

Then go ahead and discuss how ExPANSIVE it was, I don`t care.
There is no difference if 6.000.000 or 3.000.000 people died.
Maybe I don`t get the point here.

the biggest point might be
~ maybe 'the germans' were NOT the real ones, behind it all
(although, history has made it appear that way)

NOT always can you judge men/or women
based only on the 'suits' they present to this world
or, perhaps, are forced to wear

war is NOT a very fair thing ~ to anyone

there is, a lot of important things
~ starting to bubble to the surface

we need to learn to all be in peace, and live in peace

a lot of pieces on earth are starting to work together

so, the past, does NOT repeat itself

[derpif]

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

the biggest point might be
~ maybe 'the germans' were NOT the real ones, behind it all
(although, history has made it appear that way)

No reptillians involved, just pure human evil.
You might consider that the Nazis were heavy Methamphetamine users,
known as Pervitin back then. This drug turns people into icecold agressive beings. Much more likely than anything else.
http://www.amphetamines.com/nazi.html
http://translate.google.com/translat...ml&sl=de&tl=en

[golfsierra]

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

the biggest point might be
~ maybe 'the germans' were NOT the real ones, behind it all
(although, history has made it appear that way)

..........

there is, a lot of important things
~ starting to bubble to the surface

Well,

lot of nonsense about what happend in WW II / Third Reich is coming out all the time, written by people driven by 'conspiracy' ideas, paranoia, or just not able to separate their fantasies from reality anymore. Some of those people are book writers, and the motive for doing so is is just plain money. People are very gullible and rumors, written as a book, do sell very well.

If you really want to find out about the Holocaust, visit the memorial in Berlin or Yad Vashem in Jerusalem.

What you thing is 'important' has to be questioned concerning the evidence (never provided) and the credibility of those spreading those rumors.

[sjkted]

Originally Posted by derpif

Wow I`m so upset now.
Never thought that there are people on this site dumb enough to even discuss this. Sorry.
I`m from Germany and my mother was born in 1935. My Grandmother was born 1911. I know from first hand witness accounts that it happened.
No one here in Germany, except the f#cking Neo-Nazis, would discuss this seriously.
I don`t find words for the ignorance and stupidity to post this eXchanger.

derpif

derpif: I'm curious to hear what you think of the German laws to prevent free speech on the holocaust.

There is an official story about what happened that lead to the formation of Israel. In watching what the Zionist government is doing lately, I have become interested in this topic again because it seems like there are some details that don't add up. It seems like the people best qualified to tell this story are the German people who experienced it, but one can face imprisonment for saying anything other than the official story.

The Neo-Nazi thing makes absolutely no sense to me. Hitler had Jewish blood (1/8 or 1/10th) which he even mentioned in Mein Kampf. Hitler was financed by Jewish bankers such as the Rothschilds without whom he would have not been able to accomplish anything. Further, after the Zionists established Israel, they have been pushing the Palestinians further and further out and destroying their land and property. They are heavily financed by the United States and enjoy some substantial privilege in the Middle East as a result of it. There is something here that just doesn't add up.

FWIW, I studied German in college for four years. My mother's side of the family is Jewish and I've been told I lost distant relatives in the camps. For this reason, my mother protested my studying German or having anything to do with German language or culture. I don't have any grudges. I just want to know what really happened because it appears we are in a position where history may be repeating itself. Those who don't know what really happened in the past are doomed to repeat the same mistakes.

--sjkted

[derpif]

Hi sjkted,
in my opinion it is very unfortunate and stupid from Germany that denying of the Holocaust is prosecuted.
This topic is only discussed in underground extremist circles. It is a great taboo here. That is what it makes so interesting for many young people.
In an open discussion with these so called revisionists you could debunk their lies easily for everyone to hear.
In my opinion even the most extremist political view should be allowed the freedom of speech. Everything else is very dangerous.

Greetings
derpif

[THE eXchanger]

and, the german laws

where i got a parcel of 'pine bark' back in the mail

stating-i was trying to import 'illegal drugs' LOL

we tried to warn many germans/and, NOW EU countries

of the dangers of CODEX /HEALTH PRODUCTs etc.,

and, they didn't listen

they said, that will NEVER happen here

NOW ~ SO MANY RESTRICTIONS in GERMANY ~ it is scary

they should take some lessons from the swiss,
in how they arm themselves !!!

[mntruthseeker]

I dont believe that Germany had all that much to do with this as I see them as the victims.

You just have to ask yourself who profited from this ?

who was in the big hurry to grab all the files and hide them within the vatican

So, I would think if I was a victim of such horrific crimes I would most deffinately want the truth to get out there.


The worse part about all of this is that it continued throughout the years


Most of the world thinks Hitler did all this and oh well he is dead so why worry.

I'm sorry to all that are so bothered with this but to me, its important because of what is happening in the Middle East today

[golfsierra]

To support derpif here:

All that nonsense about a 'secret conspiracy organization' behind the Nazis just utilizing them to conduct the holocaust is hair raising BS.

The Nazi decided at the Wannsee conference to solve the 'problem' of the jewish population in Europe and bring it to an end. Ther was noone else involved in this discussion except the German Nazi party.

I don't see the Nazis, especially all the responsible political and military leaders of the German gov at that time, as 'victims'. The aren't.

I am from Germany, too.

And to straighten things out: Discussion about the Holocaust is not forbidden in Germany, but denying it is ! For a good reason as you easily can see.

If denying the holocaust was unlawful in Sweden, USA and some other countries, Nazis all over the world and especially German Nazis would'nt be able to buy and distribute so much Nazi propaganda. In fact, all that stuff like DVDs, books and flags is produced in countries, who fought the Third Reich until it fell - but after the war, they stopped fighting Nazis. Why ?

Abut that parcel with "pine bark" in it (whatever that is), and the German customs claiming that illegal drugs were in it: It depends on what each country (in Europe additionally the EU in Brussels) defined as 'illegal drugs'. Custom has their lists of drugs that can not be imported to or exported from Germany legally. If 'pine bark' is on the list, so what ? Maybe in other countries it's legal, and other stuff may be illegal instead.
There basically is nothing wrong with the laws in Germany. They are different to those in other countries, but do you really expect, that more than 170 nations on this globe have the same understanding of what is legal and what is not ?
Beg you pardon.