2012 Ascension or Calamity??

[tigre]

I think that ascension can be performed any time, since the fondation of time by spiritualwillaction ... means getting your spirit safe and leaving your body behind for higher levels ...
In 2012 we are taklking about a forced haverst for everyone ! some will go, some will die, some will stay ...
You can find some information on how the harvest will be performed in many ancient text, but the best are the explaination's of jesus, as every one has a bible, grab it, and study the words and meaning .. then look if yu corespond at the description of the ones who will go to heaven or hell ...

It is pretty shure that you souldn't wait for any help than from yourself, so leaving the work for tomorow is the best way to die ...

In 2012, we are talking about huge crust movement, you find also many description's of how it take place, and what are the fisical damage ...
This can be from 10 to 90% life extinction ...

So if nothing happens in 2012, be shure it can happen any time after, because these things happend in history ...
If you prepare now you'll be prepared for ever, and you can teach how to prepare to your kids ... if you are not prepared you will not be able to teach to your kids ...
The preparation must be in the spirit, then your flesh will follow the spirit awaken .. check your spiritual state with the words of jesus, he spoke like a lion to human, with love and strenght and truth, because he waanted to wake us up ...

don't relly on anybody else than you, take care

[Swanny]

Originally Posted by tigre

as every one has a bible, grab it, and study the words and meaning ..

I don't have a bible, why would I have one????

[tigre]

Originally Posted by Swanny

I don't have a bible, why would I have one????

Has you educated yourself with other books, you should consider the bible as a root of the laws of the occidental's ways ... and everyone should educated himself in it, and has many books that are foundation's of civilization ...
If you want to know your history, and why peolpe in diferent country think diferent, than I should advice that every cityzen goes to the fountain of his history and drinks it .. because until people listen to other's that say "I know the truth" the will be mislead in ignorance ... Evryone should get his own truth by making clear by himself what is wrong and rigth since foundation of time ...
very important to understand that US, europe, and other country's based on ancient and new testament bible have also all the actual laws based derived fron it ... Also has chinese based on the Tao ...
But if you get a closer look, you understand that something is going wrong ...
laws are more based on flesh than on spirit, and that doesn't corespond too what jesu's says, or sidarta, gandhi, mohamed and all the other saint in their spirit talk about ..
So I thnk that reading at least for who identify's to occidental ways the words of jesus, will helps to mutate the mind in some way ... because he is like an open door on ascenssion, of course not the only one, but a famous one

[Steven]

Here is a video I found explaining the mayan calendars with respect of the culture and serious research.

It is a bit short and the music is too loud, but the message still get through.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMkb8RV9JHU

Namaste, Steven

[joe2288]

Originally Posted by Steven

Here is a video I found explaining the mayan calendars with respect of the culture and serious research.

It is a bit short and the music is too loud, but the message still get through.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMkb8RV9JHU

Namaste, Steven

hey check out this video i just found.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSf7G...eature=related