Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here)

[eleni]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

You betcha Jonah!

The alien gals have my fancy too - colourful, smoothy soft and yet hairy.
Did you ever wonder why certain cultures try to cover the woman's hair?
It's because its Their antenna to receive and share the sacred desires of their Big common Mother.
Did you ever wonder why the dogma followers, termed the feminine bodyform as evil daughters of the devil?
It's because the femine always has and always will encompass the malenesses.
Oh, the power in the bedroom of sacred seductions.

Love to you too.

Abraxas

PS.: My answers are seemingly getting less technical - at times.
Sabina - it's your fault!

Ha! I read this book many years ago - The Greatest Story Never Told by Lana Cantrell and she said long hair (in the case of a woman) is an antenna that should not be cut short so as to receive cosmic energies......

Hi Abraxasinas

So the story...

I wish you could speak my language...it would make things about 10 times easier...

I am having trouble understanding the meaning, since there is not only the meaning to understand, I first have to understand (translate) words..re-form sentences...and than there are things like mistakes in translation and words I do not know how to understand...

I think I did my best. No need to worry Anchor I did self-censorship

So the story - an addition to the start of the thread and is not directly connected with my previous questions?

We have a person, pondering about the astral world?
While doing so that person started to ask itself how would it be to visit itself?
The person also gets caught into pondering about the peoples thoughts in general?

While doing that, the person entered the state unique to that person and that state was metaphorically named hell?

At first hell was just a mix of colors..unrecognizable pictures...an abstract...or sort of an artist view?

Let us call this person a Hero.

Our Hero decides eagerly to explore his own version of hell as doing so observing the changes in environment and himself.

One of the first things our Hero learns is that while he is in control of himself he is also in the control of the situation?

Hero also learns that one can not go beyond what he/she is?

As our Hero continued his journey he realized that everything and everyone just plays its role in what there is?

Our Hero soon encounters what he labels as demons and a also some witches. A beings of untold powers, unknown to men.

The witches were...dancing...in their natural clothing... and soon became sexually attracted to the Hero...

This attraction can be considered as a perfectly natural response?

Also...Hero being in charge of his own castle...the witches reactions might also come from Heroes unconscious desire?

As a result of all this..happening...our Hero got a boner. He became to re-form the images and made an image of a women he prefers best...all of this mad our Hero aroused....thus enabling him to discover a female inside of him?

At this same time the Hero realizes that the only way to the freedom of the spiritual self expression of the soul is to undergo a polygamy?

Hero realizes that claiming someone to be "yours" is purely a form of egoism?

After that the Hero uses his imagination to change from...from he to she...from she to he...

Hero enjoys exploring his feminine side...thus began the transformation of the hell (himself?)...from hell to something "nicer". He soon realizes the power of feminine...power over male (demon?)...

As female...Hero starts looking for the alpha male...the one with the biggest...stick. The prime intention was a unity of hell and heaven?
To stop being separated and join in oneness?
To fully obtain the andorgeny?

After this the Hero gets overcomed by the Barby girl phenomenon. Hero decides he will increase his options regrading the alpha male. He puts up a pretense in form of games which include a fail safe?
As any other true Barby girl...Hero decides he will let himself be surprised by unknowing - in order to bring forth more excitement...more unpredictability?

Hero meets his 3 candidates in a from of what is called a devil. Devils comment on Hero being from Shamballa while themselves are being in the underworld Agartha....

Is it not the Agartha - the garden of eden? Why are there "devils" there in a story?

Hero than starts playing a game of deceit? He promises a....never ending story...to the devil that will win.

Unity between surface world and underworld? Isn't that what made the hmm so called "fallen angels" that had sex with the surface people ?

During the fail-safe part of the game...Hero makes a mistake and the devil that won the 1st part also wins the 2nd part.

Hero..did not do as promised right away...there were "other tasks" to do first. In the mean time the devils were given the pictures...with females on them. Each female had a name...name mostly familiarized with the angels.

I am still not sure if I "get it"....

************

I am however willing (if need be) to discuss sexuality without "moral presumptions" and as intellectually as I can... But I think that sort of discussion might cause Anchor to have a headache...so it could only be done in private.

[Jason]

Solar Eclipse tonight at exactly 11:11pm, hows that for synchronization!

[Steven]

Hello Abraxasinas. Here is a letter from Alex Collier received by the andromedan contact he has since several years. Quote:

'The Race from Alpha Draconis

The Draconis race is probably the most misunderstood. I have witnessed a deep respect for this race which is generated out of admiration and fear. The Draconans are the oldest reptilian race in our Universe. Their forefathers, somewhere in our most ancient past came to our Universe from another separate Universe and/or reality. When this actually occurred no one really knows.

The 11 (Council of Eleven) have said that the Draconans themselves aren't clear how or when they themselves got here, but what is interesting is that they declare and teach to the masses that they were in this Universe first, before humans beings, and that they are the true heirs to this Universe and, as such are all royalty. Most, if not all, human races don't recognize this claim as truth but, none the less, they don't debate the issue with them either. Alpha Draconans have colonized many star systems and have created many races by genetically altering the life forms that they encountered.

The most densely populated area of sub-races of Draconans is the constellation of Orion, Rigel, and the star system known as Capella. Here lies a very dangerous part of the Universe for human beings. The mind set or consciousness of the majority of the races in this region is service to self and as such they are always subverting, invading and manipulating less advanced races using their technology for control and domination.

This is a very old and ancient war with the peace that does exist always being tested by these beings that believe that fear rules and love is weak, that the less fortunate are meant to be slaves. This belief system is created at birth in the reptilian races as the mother, at the time of birth will hide the young and then abandon them to fend for themselves.

Most of the time they are cared for by the warrior class that uses the children for games of combat and amusements. They believe that in their ways that if the young ones survive they were meant to and in the process they have had to fight all the way and at a young age they are full warriors, used to depending on no one.

Alpha Draconans are very suspicious of all life forms including their own, but not of course to the extent that they would be of humans. They are taught that Draconan history of the Great Galactic War. The version or opinion that the humans were at fault for the invasion of the Universe and how we selfishly wanted the Draconan race to starve and struggle for the basic materials for their society to exist. Therefore they are brainwashed at a young age just like we humans have done to our younger generations by all human races in the galaxy.' End of the quote.

What can you tell me about this Great Galactic War and its repercussion throught out the galaxy and time?

Here is the source of the text: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/an...v2n3alpha.html

Namaste, Steven

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Steven

Hello Abraxasinas. Here is a letter from Alex Collier received by the andromedan contact he has since several years. Quote:

'The Race from Alpha Draconis

The Draconis race is probably the most misunderstood. I have witnessed a deep respect for this race which is generated out of admiration and fear. The Draconans are the oldest reptilian race in our Universe. Their forefathers, somewhere in our most ancient past came to our Universe from another separate Universe and/or reality. When this actually occurred no one really knows.

The 11 (Council of Eleven) have said that the Draconans themselves aren't clear how or when they themselves got here, but what is interesting is that they declare and teach to the masses that they were in this Universe first, before humans beings, and that they are the true heirs to this Universe and, as such are all royalty. Most, if not all, human races don't recognize this claim as truth but, none the less, they don't debate the issue with them either. Alpha Draconans have colonized many star systems and have created many races by genetically altering the life forms that they encountered.

The most densely populated area of sub-races of Draconans is the constellation of Orion, Rigel, and the star system known as Capella. Here lies a very dangerous part of the Universe for human beings. The mind set or consciousness of the majority of the races in this region is service to self and as such they are always subverting, invading and manipulating less advanced races using their technology for control and domination.

This is a very old and ancient war with the peace that does exist always being tested by these beings that believe that fear rules and love is weak, that the less fortunate are meant to be slaves. This belief system is created at birth in the reptilian races as the mother, at the time of birth will hide the young and then abandon them to fend for themselves.

Most of the time they are cared for by the warrior class that uses the children for games of combat and amusements. They believe that in their ways that if the young ones survive they were meant to and in the process they have had to fight all the way and at a young age they are full warriors, used to depending on no one.

Alpha Draconans are very suspicious of all life forms including their own, but not of course to the extent that they would be of humans. They are taught that Draconan history of the Great Galactic War. The version or opinion that the humans were at fault for the invasion of the Universe and how we selfishly wanted the Draconan race to starve and struggle for the basic materials for their society to exist. Therefore they are brainwashed at a young age just like we humans have done to our younger generations by all human races in the galaxy.' End of the quote.

What can you tell me about this Great Galactic War and its repercussion throught out the galaxy and time?

Here is the source of the text: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/an...v2n3alpha.html

Namaste, Steven

Hi Steven!

The Alpha Draconians as described by the Andromedeans represent the archetypical manifestation of DECSENDANTS from the 'founder race' termed the Paa Taal by Alex Collier and his contacts. As you can read in the above, the Descendents have forgotten their origins; but somehow 'they' connect their own origins to the existence of the 'cosmic humanoid', perceiveing in them some sort of 'threat' to their seniority and 'masterrace' status.

The 'Great Galactic War' you wish me to describe to you was not on the physical plane; but has to do with the 'spiritual wickedness at high places'

Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Ephesians 6:11-13

So using the original archetypes, indicated, but not defined in the quote above; CAN indicate to you from whence the Andromedean story; 'your own recollection of that story'; 'Barbara Hand-Clow's story'; 'Anna Hayes' story' and so on and on originates from.

The full story relates to the creation of the universe itself. I have shared the details many times here, but shall briefly describe it yet again.

In the Beginning there was a Void being Eternity without space and without time and without any definitions at all.
{The mathematical and logistics selfcreated/invented from this can be found in the Lucifer's Mirror thread and some other places on this forum).

This Beingness was nevertheless able to Imagine its own Being as Being NOT Infinite as the Void=Eternity and from this evolved a Cosmogony of Purpose then initiating an Ontology for Being within a materialising Cosmology engaging the concepts of space and time and densities of matter. This cosmology is sufficiently described by standard models of classical physical theory blended with the so called quantum mechanics of a Planck Black Body Radiator expanding thermodynamically in entropic time arrows and the postulates of classical geometric field theories like the Relativities of Einstein.

But your question addresses not the physical genesis but the metaphysical genesis and the latter so revisits the logistical processes, which manifested the parameters for the physical universe to come into existence. {Lucifer Thread}.

The examination and analysis of this metaphysics then shows how the Infinitum is replated to the Finitum and how the Void of the beginning is realised in a White Hole-Black Hole physics connected by the Wormhole aka the Einstein-Rosen-Bridge in the semantics of theoretical physics.

In brief; it becomes the Wormhole as a quasi-singularity of physicality, which becomes a MIRROR between a Double-sided surface or manifold so rendering the twosidedness onesided.

This is like a mathematical 'trick' for the Void=Infinity to become Finite in Duality, yet still containing its own Unity of the onesidedness.

So one can develop the mathematics and the physics to 'make a physical universe' from its metaphysical precursive definitions.

The 'Hole' in space and time becomes a 12D wormhole mirror emboding the precise minimum spacetimematter configuration as say a Quantization of all physical parameters 'measurable', such as length, time, weight, temperature, luminosity, molarity, electric current and the geometric connectors (pi and sterradian say).

What has this to do with the 'Great Galactic War' between the Lyrans and the Reptilians you may ask?

It has everything to do with it, if you can understand that the twosidedness to onesidedness 'topology transformation' REQUIRED a particular duality to become 'SET UP' on the archetypical primordial level.

The technical linguistics label this as a T-Duality between a heterotic superstring class, characterized in a Lie group algebra of 8x8 symmetries (I Ching and 64-codex of DNA/RNA codon couplings of nucleotidal base pairings).

But those 'string labels' were invented in the 1980's and did not exist at the 'time of the great galactic wars'.

Yet they ARE simply a Relabelling of the primordial archetype, describing the 'spiritual wickedness at high places'.

So now you have two options; either familiarise yourself with complicated string-membrane mathematics of convulution integrals OR attempt to rediscover the ancient archetypes through the study of the 'histories'.

This you and the 'story tellers' have done and many of your stories converge in parts and diverge in parts; all of them based upon the true and valid archetypes.

The Thuban story differs in one elementary aspect from the other stories. The Thuban story knows the 'modern interpretation' of the 'ancient archetype' and so can BACKTRACE to the 'oldest story of them all' via its technicalities. This is like travelling backwards in time or a form of 'backwards engineering'.

So what have the Thubans found?
The Thubans found out, that the Alpha Draconians are their descendents, their firstborn GRANDCHILDREN IN THIS the Milky Way Galaxy.
The Thubans have also found out, that the Paa Taal were their Children in this Galaxy and that the Lyrans (you can relabel the Lyrans as the Musicians of Lucifer's Lyre or as the original Mystics of the White Crystal and in many other ways) also were their Grandchildren.
So the Alpha Draconians became the Skeksis of the Dark Crystal (in one pertinent renaming by Thubanese scribes) in the form of a Black Brosisterhood of the Black Lucifers and in a form of competition with the White Brosisterhood of the Mystics aka the White Lucifers.

A much much younger reinterpretation of this archetype became the Atlantean labelling of the Brosisterhood of the Serpent in the Shamballa of the Red Dragon of Tibet at the Outside towards the Sky and the Golden Dragon of Agartha at the Inside, say the Center of the Earth.

From this the Annunaki mythology of the 'Cosmic Twinship' took form in Mesopotamian lore and the Gilgamesh; then leading to the Torah of Genesis and further story telling based on a potent original collection of archetypes and symbols.

But the 'Cosmic Twinship' of the Egyptian RaH-HaR; Shu-Tefnut and Geb-Nut then 'Doubled' itself in the Osiris-Isis and Seth-Nephtys twinships. From this the story of archetypes became the familar story of scriptural patriarchical and matriarchical lineages and correlations and blendings with the earlier mostly orally tyransmitted legends of the symbols and namings.

I could go on Steve; either in technical discourse elucidating WHY the archetypes are Serpentine and the nature of the Glyph of the Dragon.
Or I could IMAGINE and then IMAGE the appropriate 'cosmic star wars story' from the most potent form of the original archetypology.

You can do this yourself and a multitude of such stories are found on the web; all of which carry parts of the truth and part of mystery.
The Andromedan agenda admits of 'not knowing' the origin of the origin. Being from a different observer perspective, namely extragalactic instead of intergalactic (as the Alpha Draconians and Pleiadeans and Arcturians and Sirians are); the Andromedean witnessed the opening of the 12-dimensional Wormholes as the MIRRORS between the Void of the Eternity and the Finite universe.

The Thuban story of the 'Great Galactic Wars' is exceedingly simple and has already been told in film; 'The Dark Crystal', by Jim Henderson of Sesame Street renown.

Now there are immense 'scriptural' and prophetic implications about the scripture (Ephesians) quoted above.
It are those implications, which form the core of the present transformation experienced by Gaia.

But all of the 'alien agendas' partially, but not fully 'materialized' cannot act independent from their empowerment of the fundamental archetypology.
The backwards travelling in time by the Thubanese wingmakers and timetravellers by and through the RECONSTRUCTION of the 'making of the universe from first principles', has allowed the Council of Thuban and under guidance and in the name of their 'Master-Templar-Template-Dragon' to share this information with anyone having ears to hear and eyes to see.

You are as much a Member of the Counicil of Thuban as I, Abraxas am.
The difference is I know the origin of both of us; you are in search of your origins using the database you can accept and incorporate as your own.

All children of the universe are destined to 'make their own universe' this is part of the 'masterplan' as children of the creator.
Do not sons and daughters grow up to set out on their own?
The Creator has a wish - to become a Grandfather. Without 'Sons of the Universe making trade' He cannot become a Father of Fathers and without Mothers giving birth to 'universe makers' the Mother-Creation aka 'Gaia in Disguise' cannot become a Grandma - it's as simple as that.

All are called but not many will hear and most will continue to adhere to archetypes of duality being the offspring of the monadic cosmogenesis.

The 'puppet movie' for the children IS the Story of Thuban - the Dragon-Elflings of the StarHumanity.

15Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein. {Mark.10.15}.

Peace of Mind be with you Steven


Abraxas

[Firstlook]

hello Abraxas,

What does the Thuban Council have to offer on the topic of sun gazing?

Thanks,

Joey

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Firstlook

hello Abraxas,

What does the Thuban Council have to offer on the topic of sun gazing?

Thanks,

Joey

Dear Firstlook!

I know of what you speak.
When the soul remembers its origins, the first contact associates the sources of light, either the moon or the sun.
Then the 'inner voice' may say: "You are part of the sun. You can look right into it and just as the Lunar Aura is Blue, so the Aura of the Sun is Green'.

Then the soul might use its biology to look into the sun and say when it dawns or sets.
And then this might succeed for a while and then the biological eyes will hurt a bit and many years later the damage to the physical eyes might manifest in deteriorating vision.

So the Thuban advice is to look into the sun, but not with your 3D eyes but your higherD eyes.
The urges of the soul to blend with the sun or the moon is a message of the homecoming and the inner eyes of the awakening (say third eye) are sufficient to rediscover the kinship with all of the celestial orbs.

Love Abraxas

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Jason

Solar Eclipse tonight at exactly 11:11pm, hows that for synchronization!

Indeed Jason,
one can term it astrological synchronizations. The lunar eclipse of the 'Mother's' Cancer Moon at the end of 2009 followed by the 'Father's Capricorn Moon for a solar eclipse two weeks later.
On Sunday, January 17th Venus enters Aquarius; on Monday, January 18th, Jupiter enters Pisces from Aquarius and on Tuesday, January 19th, the Sun conjoins Venus in Aquarius.
Mars the male drive is opposite Venus the female temperace (and flirtation) in Leo and Neptune ruler of Pisces and Chiron, the Cosmic Healer all are in Aquarius with Uranus with its rulership of Aquarius in the 'Sign of the Vesica Pisces' and the 'changing of the ages' from Pisces to Aquarius.

Abraxas

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Spregovori

Hi Abraxasinas

So the story...

I wish you could speak my language...it would make things about 10 times easier...

I am having trouble understanding the meaning, since there is not only the meaning to understand, I first have to understand (translate) words..re-form sentences...and than there are things like mistakes in translation and words I do not know how to understand...

I think I did my best. No need to worry Anchor I did self-censorship

So the story - an addition to the start of the thread and is not directly connected with my previous questions?

We have a person, pondering about the astral world?
Yes!
While doing so that person started to ask itself how would it be to visit itself?
Yes this is very important - discovery of the Inner Self as a World in itself.
The person also gets caught into pondering about the peoples thoughts in general?
No, other peoples thought do not enter this experience at all.

While doing that, the person entered the state unique to that person and that state was metaphorically named hell?
"hell' is simply a label for the 'Underworld' or 'Inner World' and the archetype associated to be explored, i.e. 'what is my own inner Hell like?'

At first hell was just a mix of colors..unrecognizable pictures...an abstract...or sort of an artist view?
Ok, one enters without knowing what to expect - no presumptions.

Let us call this person a Hero.
It's you and everyone 'going on the journey' - no drugs required, just your mind.

Our Hero decides eagerly to explore his own version of hell as doing so observing the changes in environment and himself.
Yes.

One of the first things our Hero learns is that while he is in control of himself he is also in the control of the situation?
Yes.

Hero also learns that one can not go beyond what he/she is?
No, the hero learns that hisher mind seems to be basically unlimited in creative potential.

As our Hero continued his journey he realized that everything and everyone just plays its role in what there is?
No, the roles are there, appear and change and become subject to the hero's perceptions and thoughts, expectations, desires, .. whatever.

Our Hero soon encounters what he labels as demons and a also some witches. A beings of untold powers, unknown to men.
No not at all. The hero(ine) discovers that the overworld archetypes and symbols also exist in the inner world and new ones can become created and infented in manifestation.

The witches were...dancing...in their natural clothing... and soon became sexually attracted to the Hero...
A witche's coven and the pagan worship of nature as an archetype, yes.

This attraction can be considered as a perfectly natural response?
Naturally!

Also...Hero being in charge of his own castle...the witches reactions might also come from Heroes unconscious desire?
Yes, the desires, expectations of all parties in interacting archetypes; the hero(ine) being the SELF-archetype.

As a result of all this..happening...our Hero got a boner. He became to re-form the images and made an image of a women he prefers best...all of this mad our Hero aroused....thus enabling him to discover a female inside of him?
Beautiful gnosis=insight blended with self-discovery indeed.

At this same time the Hero realizes that the only way to the freedom of the spiritual self expression of the soul is to undergo a polygamy?
No, you misunderstood; the freedom is the unification of the self. Once the self becomes unified; the One in Many (sexual partners say) also becomes the Many in One.

Hero realizes that claiming someone to be "yours" is purely a form of egoism?
Indeed, very true.

After that the Hero uses his imagination to change from...from he to she...from she to he...
Easy after self-unification.

Hero enjoys exploring his feminine side...thus began the transformation of the hell (himself?)...from hell to something "nicer". He soon realizes the power of feminine...power over male (demon?)...
Yes, you have discerned this well - transformation of self leads to transformation of the environment - ancient wisdom.

As female...Hero starts looking for the alpha male...the one with the biggest...stick. The prime intention was a unity of hell and heaven?
To stop being separated and join in oneness?
To fully obtain the andorgeny?
Yes, but the 'big stick' refers to the exploration of the archetype and using the previously known 'stereotypes' of what is preferrable in transmutation. remember the story talks about fitting scales together in harmony.

After this the Hero gets overcomed by the Barby girl phenomenon. Hero decides he will increase his options regrading the alpha male. He puts up a pretense in form of games which include a fail safe?
Your Barby Girl label here is inappropriate. The scenario is purely geared to manifest the agenda of the 'oracle', using the expectation of the underworld to fulfil the expectation of the overworld. The hero(ine) becomes a secret agent for the 'highest good' a win-win situation for all concerned.

As any other true Barby girl...Hero decides he will let himself be surprised by unknowing - in order to bring forth more excitement...more unpredictability?
Yes, to allow the DESIRE of the underworld FOR the overworld to maximise for the most potent outcome.

Hero meets his 3 candidates in a from of what is called a devil. Devils comment on Hero being from Shamballa while themselves are being in the underworld Agartha....
These are other archetypes: the four gospels, Greek elements, directions NESW and so on.

Is it not the Agartha - the garden of eden? Why are there "devils" there in a story?
Here you are stuck in a later interpretation of archetypes. Yes the point is to 'marry' Heaven with Hell; Shamballa with Agartha; Overworld with Underworld; Outer Self with Inner Self etc. etc.

Hero than starts playing a game of deceit? He promises a....never ending story...to the devil that will win.
You misunderstood. There is no deceit, but the utility of the Natural Order to manifest itself using polar opposites. The Hero(ine) has learned to use the inner harmony to manifest the outer harmony.

Unity between surface world and underworld? Isn't that what made the hmm so called "fallen angels" that had sex with the surface people ?
This is where your own dualistic preconceptions about history and the 'meaning of life' begin to clash with deeper realities unified.
The 'fallen angels' are the 'devils' in the underworld AND are the 'risen devils' of the 'angels' of the overworld. So its a Mirror of Mirrors. I'll leave it at that for now.

During the fail-safe part of the game...Hero makes a mistake and the devil that won the 1st part also wins the 2nd part.
No not a mistake; but a learning process. The hero(ine) surrenders control of hisher own creation (Free Will question here of and about God, if you can discern this here) to render the 'adventure' more entertaining. The 2nd part fulfils the 1st part in again allowing a maximum win-win situation to become possible.

Hero..did not do as promised right away...there were "other tasks" to do first. In the mean time the devils were given the pictures...with females on them. Each female had a name...name mostly familiarized with the angels.
Yes, the archetypes again: 4 archdemons marrying 4 archangelic goddesses - not too hard to conceptualise. The 'other tasks' refer to the timeline, not yet completed; but the 'promises' have been made and the 'New Heaven and New Hell' are 'In waiting' like groom and bride really.

I am still not sure if I "get it"....

************
This went better than I expected. Anchor will be ok with that.

I am however willing (if need be) to discuss sexuality without "moral presumptions" and as intellectually as I can... But I think that sort of discussion might cause Anchor to have a headache...so it could only be done in private.

Abraxas

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

This went better than I expected. Anchor will be ok with that.

What did you expect?



I too had anchor in my mind...while responding...so at time I did heavy censorship...regarding the juicy stuff...which might also derail the whole point...or not....



To all:

While people do have "triggers" regarding sexuality I do believe it would benefit them even if it would...bring them out of the "oblivion" into the "horror" of the "real world"...name it as you would like to...

Much is hidden....deep down inside...

For those that like conspiracy theories - the way we are told and shown about the topic of sexuality - is probably the biggest of them all

but yes dear reader...i might be wrong...than again...so might be you

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Spregovori

What did you expect?



I too had anchor in my mind...while responding...so at time I did heavy censorship...regarding the juicy stuff...which might also derail the whole point...or not....



To all:

While people do have "triggers" regarding sexuality I do believe it would benefit them even if it would...bring them out of the "oblivion" into the "horror" of the "real world"...name it as you would like to...

Much is hidden....deep down inside...

For those that like conspiracy theories - the way we are told and shown about the topic of sexuality - is probably the biggest of them all

but yes dear reader...i might be wrong...than again...so might be you

Hi Spregovori - I expected less lucidity, not just from you but from anyone commenting.
Both you and Anchor have exhibited more 'spiritual maturity' then would be the 'norm' in regards to such a delicate subject.
And you have summarised it well in this, your statement:

"For those that like conspiracy theories - the way we are told and shown about the topic of sexuality - is probably the biggest of them all"

Enough said.

Thank you for replying and questioning.

Abraxas

[SABINA]

Hi,
what do you thinkabout how to build up the Merkabah? The right meditation
is not so easy.Much more easy and with much more fun you will find a way
in Tantrayoga ups.- Spregovori you have to study in private
with all the best sabina

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by SABINA

Hi,
what do you thinkabout how to build up the Merkabah? The right meditation
is not so easy.Much more easy and with much more fun you will find a way
in Tantrayoga ups.- Spregovori you have to study in private
with all the best sabina

Your avatar is 'giving you away' Sabina.

The Riddles of the Sphinx of the Hamarkhis -Horus of the Horizon continue.

Abrax

Originally Posted by SABINA

Hi,
what do you thinkabout how to build up the Merkabah? The right meditation
is not so easy.Much more easy and with much more fun you will find a way
in Tantrayoga ups.- Spregovori you have to study in private
with all the best sabina

The chariot? hmmm dont know much about that..
Her avatar? Looks like the cover of a fairy tale...

In private...Tantrayoga (sounds promising).... Em would you happen to have a am some sort of a "directional url" or do I just google it? (i wish to avoid any "mainstream" miss uses / false uses)

[Steven]

Thank you for the reply Abraxasinas. I'm impressed by the time and dedication you give to answer all people here .

Thank you for your answer, interesting. You refer the "Great Galactic War" mentioned by the andromedan as not from our dimension and prime to our Universe. It is not the case dear. Not the same event.

And the founder or "Paa Taal" are from unknown origin according to the andromedan, most probably not from Draconian origin, because they are not from our Universe, always according to the andromedan.

So in other word, if I follow the logic of the Thuban material. The draconian are descendant of the "founder". They are native of this Universe and not the cause of the "Great Galactic War" that occurred in the past history of our galaxy...

It is almost 180 degree opposite from what Alex Collier message received from the andromedans. I suspect the Thuban material being created by the draconian interventionists in the purpose to mislead Earth people into false doctrine to influence them further on the path of servitude...

Thank you for your time, Steven

[ewhite]

Greetings abraxasinas,


I have been following this marvelous thread since you started it, I have been taking in this vast amount of information as best as I can. I must say having read most of it three times it all does start to make sense. I admit of all I think I understand, I feel that I am missing one detail that I can not decipher on my own.

I have seen many of your responses contain phrases such as this:

"PAUL=ARACHNE=CIRCLE=3+9+18+3+12+5"

I have no idea on how to decipher these, or what they mean. I apologize to you and everyone else if this is "elementary", but i feel as if I may understand much more if you would kindly explain (or point me in the right direction) what these mean or how it fits with the rest of this tremendous information.

Thank you,
Namaste,

ewhite

[iainl140285]

Originally Posted by ewhite

Greetings abraxasinas,


I have been following this marvelous thread since you started it, I have been taking in this vast amount of information as best as I can. I must say having read most of it three times it all does start to make sense. I admit of all I think I understand, I feel that I am missing one detail that I can not decipher on my own.

I have seen many of your responses contain phrases such as this:

"PAUL=ARACHNE=CIRCLE=3+9+18+3+12+5"

I have no idea on how to decipher these, or what they mean. I apologize to you and everyone else if this is "elementary", but i feel as if I may understand much more if you would kindly explain (or point me in the right direction) what these mean or how it fits with the rest of this tremendous information.

Thank you,
Namaste,

ewhite

I'll take a stab at this - If A=1 B=2 C=3 Then CIRCLE is 3+9+18+3+12+5

[ewhite]

Originally Posted by iainl140285

I'll take a stab at this - If A=1 B=2 C=3 Then CIRCLE is 3+9+18+3+12+5

Thank you, iainl

Right, that is what I figured, what confuses me is how you get from PAUL --> CIRCLE, and what is the significance? Again, excuse my ignorance.

I do not wish to throw the thread off track, for something that may or may not be "elementary" , but I do know that if one is confused there is a high probability that many others do not understand as well.

[iainl140285]

Originally Posted by ewhite

Thank you, iainl

Right, that is what I figured, what confuses me is how you get from PAUL --> CIRCLE, and what is the significance? Again, excuse my ignorance.

I do not wish to throw the thread off track, for something that may or may not be "elementary" , but I do know that if one is confused there is a high probability that many others do not understand as well.

Well, I dont want to step on anyones toes here, but the significance is, EVERYTHING is linked through letters/language and numbers.

Its Infinite. Just like PI Or CIRCLE.

A quick example. PI = 3.14
Go to the middle letters of the alphabet - MN = 13 14 OR 3.14 Its all connected

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by iainl140285

Well, I dont want to step on anyones toes here, but the significance is, EVERYTHING is linked through letters/language and numbers.

Its Infinite. Just like PI Or CIRCLE.

A quick example. PI = 3.14
Go to the middle letters of the alphabet - MN = 13 14 OR 3.14 Its all connected

Hi Iainl!

Indeed you understand. You have graduated to the Title of Alphanumericist and you can now begin to share your knowledge of this simple key with the universe.

The Arabic English system is used (one can use of course any other language), because it derives from the alphanumeracy of the Hebrew Kabbalah now 'Anglosaxonized', which subsitutes vowels with numbers, say in the Tetragrammaton YHWH and the Pentagrammaton YHWHY.

'After your seed shall the New Nation be called', it is written to Abraham via ISAAC=IS.AAC=IS.AA*C=IS.ABC because if A=1 and B=2 and...and Z=26, then the next A=A* will be like a B if the Z=A in the closing of the Circle of the alphabet.

Hebrews 11:18
Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:

Abraxas

[iainl140285]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Hi Iainl!

Indeed you understand. You have graduated to the Title of Alphanumericist and you can now begin to share your knowledge of this simple key with the universe.

The Arabic English system is used (one can use of course any other language), because it derives from the alphanumeracy of the Hebrew Kabbalah now 'Anglosaxonized', which subsitutes vowels with numbers, say in the Tetragrammaton YHWH and the Pentagrammaton YHWHY.

'After your seed shall the New Nation be called', it is written to Abraham via ISAAC=IS.AAC=IS.AA*C=IS.ABC because if A=1 and B=2 and...and Z=26, then the next A=A* will be like a B if the Z=A in the closing of the Circle of the alphabet.

Hebrews 11:18
Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:

Abraxas

Cool, thanks
What other 'titles' are there?
Any pointers on where I should focus my study on nxt?

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by iainl140285

Cool, thanks
What other 'titles' are there?
Any pointers on where I should focus my study on nxt?

Whatever you would like to become. The stars behind the stars shall be your nonlimitation.

Before extending in knowledge and wisdom, secure your basis, would be my advice.



Abraxas

[viking]

Originally Posted by viking View Post
Hello Abaxanus...

Yes, I as well would like to thank you for your dedication with this thread...amazing amount of info...I need to read a couple of times for it to sink in...Hey, I am just a mere human...

Can I ask you a few questions please?

If you are who you say you are, and you have a genuine message for mankind, so to speak...

Why are you singing this tune to such a small audience? ... Surely you need to reach a much wider audience!...

I am not doing this on 'my' behalf, but on OUR behalf. I do know the general timeline, but I do not know the details of this timeline until these are transmitted to me. In some way I am learning what comes next in interacting here. All teachers are also students. I am not really a teacher but a simple councillor and scribe and witess to the things coming.

Perhaps you are pushing the message on various other forums? Yes?

No, I run some forums in my name of John Shadow; but on these forums the 'rigidity' of thinking is far more 'mainstream' (and manipulated) as here.
I am doing what I am doing as long as it shall last or be appropriate.

Sorry, I don't mean to demean your efforts in any way on the contrary I commend you on your thread which has been injected with huge information and some wisdom. There are a couple of topics I would disagree with!

Many disagree with many things. Some agree with most things and some agree with some things. This is as it should be.
To accept everything I share as some 'New Commandment from Thuban' would be MOST counterproductive and stifle your evolution to DISCOVER yourself in the grandest manner possible.

Also what is your understanding with regard to 'The Universal Laws of creation'?

My understanding of 'The Universal Laws of Creation' are the THUBANESE VERSION. I am sure there are many other versions there for your discernment and comparison.

A lot of my work is a little technical and suffused with what is known as 'Universal Insight/Gnosis' or the 'perennial Philosophy' (Wisdom of the Ancients).
This link gives access: http://tonyb.freeyellow.com

viking

Thank you so much for your reply...you are certainly quick of the mark!!

The first question you forgot to answer... Why do you choose such a small audience with such an important message for mankind??

I would have thought you would have broadcast the information on a much larger scale...

viking

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by viking

Thank you so much for your reply...you are certainly quick of the mark!!

The first question you forgot to answer... Why do you choose such a small audience with such an important message for mankind??

I would have thought you would have broadcast the information on a much larger scale...

viking

Perhaps it is in everyones interest for this data to remain relatively obscure for a while. It's 2010 not 2011 and not yet 2012.

Here's a Story to share for you.

The Parable of Hans Schatten

There once lived a gardener in a place not known in part but in all. The gardener so could not plant anything somewhere in particular, but could only plant where he himself was as being nowhere and everywhere.

The gardener wished to plant an apple-seed he had found to be part of himself in the place he was and so the gardener thought of himself as not being nowhere anymore, but to be right in the place of the apple seed.

So the apple seed became real and occupied a real space, but caused the gardener to disappear from that real space into an unreal space. The gardener so became the unreal image in unreal space of the real image of the apple seed in the real space.

And so the apple seed was born as real space to occupy, but being surrounded by an unreal space and there where the gardener still followed his dream to see the apple seed grow and blossom into a full apple tree after he had planted it.

For the dream of the gardener was to grow the apple seed into a full apple tree and after reaching maturity, the apple tree would blossom and yield its fruit of apples which carried their own apple seeds within.
Because this was the plan of the gardener as the unreal image of the real image. Should the single apple seed become two apple seeds, then any two apple seeds could image each other and the real images in the real space, would enable the gardener to use the real image of one of the apple seeds to mirror himself in the realness of one of the apple seeds in the gardener's unreality becoming real in the reality.

Then the single seed of the gardener could multiply and the single apple tree could become a forest of apple trees and so on ad infinitum.

But there would always have to be the first single apple seed which the gardener had become in real space as the image of himself in the unreal space. There could not have been two seeds of the one gardener, because two seeds would have meant that the gardener divided itself into two and that was not the plan of the planter.

This initial apple seed would always remain to be the Seed of all Seeds around which the other seeds and apple trees and apple forests could grow, multiply and reproduce.

Then the gardener would find himself in the real space too and leave his exile in the unreal space. The gardener would become reborn as the image of the image and all other apple seeds would similarly become gardeners themselves, as this was the nature of all things and the beginning of it all.

Hans Schatten; for my apple seeded daughter in the unreal space to become real.

Hans Schatten is the German translation for John Shadow

Abraxas

[eleni]

Abraxsinas- thank you for answering my question about the large orb.......
very interesting and makes sense to me........

As usual I have to reread your replies to others........and another thank you for taking time to answer everyone's questions in depth.......


As far as the sexual material goes........I find it rather surprising that the subject doesn't get more coverage in *conspiracy communities*........