Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here)

[iainl140285]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Hi nebula9!

John.1.1 ((KJV only).

'In the Beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God!"

'In the Beginning was the Logos of the Definition and the Definition was with the Source-Energy and the Logos was the Source-Energy'.

The Thuban Council, in its fuction of retranslators of archetypes then declares:



Quantum Relativity links the metrics of Einsteinian Relativity to their original metaphysical cosmogenesis.
Theistic- and Spiritual archetypes become a consequence of magnetocharged superbranes as wormhole singularities 'before' spacetime creation as progenitors for inertia.

LOVE is a VIBRATORY RESONANCE described in a GAUGE SOURCESINK-PHOTON in its supersymmetric selfcoupling under modular duality and which can be defined in its own resonance eigenstate as:

E*=kT*=hf*=hc/λ*=m*c²=1/e* for Unity E*e*=1 and its coupling parameters.
Energy*=Heterotic Supermembrane HE(8x8)=EpsEss
=√{2πGome2/4αhce2}=[me/mP]/2e√α=GODDOG=DOGGOD


This is the selfstate for a love vibratory resonance, which created the universe!

AA

Howdy.
If the thuBAN council are "RE-TRANSLATERS of archetypes". what is the difference of THEIR/YOUR interpretations and that of the Church on the bible say? Or the Mayan texts? Summerian texts? You C my point ... A chance to manipulate is present.

People want information so badly many will fail to take a step back and think about what has been shown to them.

Here is another perspective for ALL following this thread.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...593#post224593

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by iainl140285

People want information so badly many will fail to take a step back and think about what has been shown to them.

That is likely true, but isn't that their problem? At least on this forum one should be predisposed to caution.

A..

[Malletzky]

Just wanted to share something very strange. I just feel it has to do with this issue and this thread, so Abrax, I apologise if this is not the case. I would rather ask for "your" point of view here!

Yesterday evening, still 18.01.2010, I decided once again do a short meditation and ask "me/my higher self/my guidance/the creator" abouth this particular date. It worked well on the begning of this year, when I asked for guidance and was able to experience three extraordinary dreams/visions (described in the Thread "the concept of the unification")...

...so I said to me why not, it's very well worth of asking.

Well, to my astonishment, I received a very, very unusual dream/vision...This is what I experienced, and I know it could sound a bit weird (but not for me, as I got my message):
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Two came and acted as one. They showed me “the new” and “convinced” me to “buy” it, which I agreed. Later, both of them came again and acted as one again. They brought “the new”, but I recognised that they brought “the old”. Nevertheless, I “paid” the required, as this was the agreement.

So I stood there and “examined” the supposed “new”, which was actually “the old”.

The more I examined it, the more I knew that I don’t want it. I felt that “the two”, which acted as “one”, deceived me. The more I examined it, the “older” it became. Until I realised that NO, this is not what I was supposed to “buy”. This was not the part of the agreement.

Then come one and we were “two” that acted as “one”. The other one that came, he brought a key. This key should be able to open a "gate", which leaded to “someone” where both of us, acting as “one”, could “complain” about “the old”.

So we as “one” went “there” and saw that there are also some other there in front of a "gate"...but they had no key to open the gate. Just as I wanted to pull out my key and tell the other that we could all pass thru that gate and go to "that someone", I saw that the other manipulated another gate and were able to pass thru.

Both of us that acted as “one” wanted to join them, as we suddenly realised that they manipulated another gate, which would only be detour to "that someone”. So “I/we” stepped back and decided to use our key to open the real gate, knowing that “that someone” is already expecting us.


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And here at that point, I woke up...

Anyway, I'm sure that I understand the "message"...but I still need to "feel" about it.

malletzky

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by Malletzky

Just wanted to share something very strange. I just feel it has to do with this issue and this thread, so Abrax, I apologise if this is not the case. I would rather ask for "your" point of view here!

Yesterday evening, still 18.01.2010, I decided once again do a short meditation and ask "me/my higher self/my guidance/the creator" abouth this particular date. It worked well on the begning of this year, when I asked for guidance and was able to experience three extraordinary dreams/visions (described in the Thread "the concept of the unification")...

...so I said to me why not, it's very well worth of asking.

Well, to my astonishment, I received a very, very unusual dream/vision...This is what I experienced, and I know it could sound a bit weird (but not for me, as I got my message):
----------------------------------------------------------------
Two came and acted as one. They showed me “the new” and “convinced” me to “buy” it, which I agreed. Later, both of them came again and acted as one again. They brought “the new”, but I recognised that they brought “the old”. Nevertheless, I “paid” the required, as this was the agreement.

So I stood there and “examined” the supposed “new”, which was actually “the old”.

The more I examined it, the more I knew that I don’t want it. I felt that “the two”, which acted as “one”, deceived me. The more I examined it, the “older” it became. Until I realised that NO, this is not what I was supposed to “buy”. This was not the part of the agreement.

Then come one and we were “two” that acted as “one”. The other one that came, he brought a key. This key should be able to open a "gate", which leaded to “someone” where both of us, acting as “one”, could “complain” about “the old”.

So we as “one” went “there” and saw that there are also some other there in front of a "gate"...but they had no key to open the gate. Just as I wanted to pull out my key and tell the other that we could all pass thru that gate and go to "that someone", I saw that the other manipulated another gate and were able to pass thru.

Both of us that acted as “one” wanted to join them, as we suddenly realised that they manipulated another gate, which would only be detour to "that someone”. So “I/we” stepped back and decided to use our key to open the real gate, knowing that “that someone” is already expecting us.


-------------------------------------------------------------

And here at that point, I woke up...

Anyway, I'm sure that I understand the "message"...but I still need to "feel" about it.

malletzky

Very much what I "see" when I look, except for the elucive identity of the "other" one of two as one.

However, I always enjoy new (old) perspectives, for the opportunity to see newly (in the old way).

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Malletzky

Just wanted to share something very strange. I just feel it has to do with this issue and this thread, so Abrax, I apologise if this is not the case. I would rather ask for "your" point of view here!

Yesterday evening, still 18.01.2010, I decided once again do a short meditation and ask "me/my higher self/my guidance/the creator" abouth this particular date. It worked well on the begning of this year, when I asked for guidance and was able to experience three extraordinary dreams/visions (described in the Thread "the concept of the unification")...

...so I said to me why not, it's very well worth of asking.

Well, to my astonishment, I received a very, very unusual dream/vision...This is what I experienced, and I know it could sound a bit weird (but not for me, as I got my message):
----------------------------------------------------------------
Two came and acted as one. They showed me “the new” and “convinced” me to “buy” it, which I agreed. Later, both of them came again and acted as one again. They brought “the new”, but I recognised that they brought “the old”. Nevertheless, I “paid” the required, as this was the agreement.

So I stood there and “examined” the supposed “new”, which was actually “the old”.

The more I examined it, the more I knew that I don’t want it. I felt that “the two”, which acted as “one”, deceived me. The more I examined it, the “older” it became. Until I realised that NO, this is not what I was supposed to “buy”. This was not the part of the agreement.

Then come one and we were “two” that acted as “one”. The other one that came, he brought a key. This key should be able to open a "gate", which leaded to “someone” where both of us, acting as “one”, could “complain” about “the old”.

So we as “one” went “there” and saw that there are also some other there in front of a "gate"...but they had no key to open the gate. Just as I wanted to pull out my key and tell the other that we could all pass thru that gate and go to "that someone", I saw that the other manipulated another gate and were able to pass thru.

Both of us that acted as “one” wanted to join them, as we suddenly realised that they manipulated another gate, which would only be detour to "that someone”. So “I/we” stepped back and decided to use our key to open the real gate, knowing that “that someone” is already expecting us.


-------------------------------------------------------------

And here at that point, I woke up...

Anyway, I'm sure that I understand the "message"...but I still need to "feel" about it.

malletzky

Hi malletzky!

A very intriguing dream. You see the POLARISATION has begun.
What is Old and what is New?
Is The Source Changing or is it constant and if constant in what way is the Prime Source constant, yet allowing to change.

It will not be easy to decipher this.
Is Abraxas or Abrasax a 'God' of the Nazis or did the Nazi's misuse an archetype?

'By their fruits you will discern the spirits'.
Everyones PERSONAL ARMAGEDDON has begun. Anyone knowing of the Thuban Data is in the 'fire' - as said in the post to bigmo and reproduced here since the 18th of January, 2010.

The picture below is a 'Gnostic Charm' - the Nazis and the PTB of course are very familiar with the gnostic cosmology and Do and have used it throughout the human history.
This cosmology are archetypes of the LOGOS, the Rooster of the Insights harmonizing the Light and the Darkness.

AA


Engraving from an Abrasax stone.


As a god
Epiphanius (Haer. 69, 73 f.) appears to follow partly Irenaeus, partly the lost Compendium of Hippolytus.[4] He designates Abrasax more distinctly as "the power above all, and First Principle," "the cause and first archetype" of all things; and mentions that the Basilidians referred to 365 as the number of parts (mele) in the human body, as well as of days in the year.
The author of the appendix to Tertullian De Praescr. Haer. (c. 4), who likewise follows Hippolytus's Compendium,[5] adds some further particulars; that 'Abraxas' gave birth to Mind (nous), the first in the series of primary powers enumerated likewise by Irenaeus and Epiphanius; that the world, as well as the 365 heavens, was created in honour of 'Abraxas;' and that Christ was sent not by the Maker of the world but by 'Abraxas.'
Nothing can be built on the vague allusions of Jerome, according to whom 'Abraxas' meant for Basilides "the greatest God" (De vir. ill. 21), "the highest God" (Dial. adv. Lucif. 23), "the Almighty God" (Comm. in Amos iii. 9), and "the Lord the Creator" (Comm. in Nah. i. 11). The notices in Theodoret (Haer. fab. i. 4), Augustine (Haer. 4), and 'Praedestinatus' (i. 3), have no independent value.
It is evident from these particulars that Abrasax was the name of the first of the 365 Archons, and accordingly stood below Sophia and Dynamis and their progenitors; but his position is not expressly stated, so that the writer of the supplement to Tertullian had some excuse for confusing him with "the Supreme God."
[edit] As an Aeon

With the availability of primary sources, such as the those in Nag Hammadi library, the identity of Abrasax remains unclear. The Holy Book of the Great Invisible Spirit, for instance, refers to Abrasax as an Aeon dwelling with Sophia and other Aeons of the Pleroma in the light of the luminary Eleleth. In several texts, the luminary Eleleth is the last of the luminaries (Spiritual Lights) that come forward, and it is the Aeon Sophia, associated with Eleleth, who encounters darkness and becomes involved in the chain of events that leads to the Demiurge's rule of this world, and the salvage effort that ensues. As such, the role of Aeons of Eleleth, including Abrasax, Sophia, and others, pertains to this outer border of the Pleroma that encounters the ignorance of the world of Lack and interacts to rectify the error of ignorance in the world of materiality.

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by iainl140285

Howdy.
If the thuBAN council are "RE-TRANSLATERS of archetypes". what is the difference of THEIR/YOUR interpretations and that of the Church on the bible say? Or the Mayan texts? Summerian texts? You C my point ... A chance to manipulate is present.

People want information so badly many will fail to take a step back and think about what has been shown to them.

Here is another perspective for ALL following this thread.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...593#post224593

And Here; for some SANITY: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraxas

Howdy iainl!

Should you compare the translations and interpretations you might observe the differences.

AA

[JesterTerrestrial]

So whats new today abraxasinas?! Anything important on the agenda! I have lots on mine that involves DISCLOSURE! Is this something your council is working towards and if so how? and if not why?

Peace JT

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by JesterTerrestrial

So whats new today abraxasinas?! Anything important on the agenda! I have lots on mine that involves DISCLOSURE! Is this something your council is working towards and if so how? and if not why?

Peace JT

What's New Jester Terresestrial?!

Have you any news?

The Council of Thuban has no new disclosures, which have not yet been stated at this point in time.
We are working towards the next disclosure on March 28th, 2011.

Your agendas of disclosure are surely welcomed on forums such as this one.

Peace be to you also!

AA

[JesterTerrestrial]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

What's New Jester Terresestrial?!

Have you any news?

The Council of Thuban has no new disclosures, which have not yet been stated at this point in time.
We are working towards the next disclosure on March 28th, 2011.

Your agendas of disclosure are surely welcomed on forums such as this one.

Peace be to you also!

AA

Oh just thinking about anti gravity experiments and figuring out how to start producing some interesting inventions that RA built. I don't really have an agenda. LOL I just kind of wake up and wing it! Its a daily operation

Its like I have a higher dimensional form of turrets!!! i just holler out these random things PEACE FREEDOM TRUTH!!! Anyway. i am one being who currently lives on earth and has spent a lot of time in front of my computer reading and writing on this fourm! I like to learn, teaching and sharing is fun too!

March 28 2011?? Whats wrong with now?! Please tell me more about this.

Have a great day

peace jt

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by JesterTerrestrial

Oh just thinking about anti gravity experiments and figuring out how to start producing some interesting inventions that RA built. I don't really have an agenda. LOL I just kind of wake up and wing it! Its a daily operation

Its like I have a higher dimensional form of turrets!!! i just holler out these random things PEACE FREEDOM TRUTH!!! Anyway. i am one being who currently lives on earth and has spent a lot of time in front of my computer reading and writing on this fourm! I like to learn, teaching and sharing is fun too!

March 28 2011?? Whats wrong with now?! Please tell me more about this.

Have a great day

peace jt

Dear jester for All!

This date is simply 62 weeks from the January date.

There will be a 'cutting off' of certain information leading then to another date in December.
As said the Thuban elders know of the 'greater timeline' not the details of the co-evolution of the collective scenario of all on this planet and beyond.

May I mention a 'disclosure' on the Hilary Clinton thread of Raskar as Ar for all to have a look at.

AA

[JesterTerrestrial]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Dear jester for All!

May I mention a 'disclosure' on the Hilary Clinton thread of Raskar as Ar for all to have a look at.

AA

thank you i will see if i can find that and have a look.

This date is simply 62 weeks from the January date.

There will be a 'cutting off' of certain information leading then to another date in December.

What dose this mean? What is simply planed in 62 weeks from January? What kind of certiain information will be cut off? What what will be planed on this new date in December? Thanks for your replies.

As said the Thuban elders know of the 'greater timeline' not the details of the co-evolution of the collective scenario of all on this planet and beyond.

Interesting. What do they say is the greater time line events?

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by JesterTerrestrial

thank you i will see if i can find that and have a look.


What dose this mean? What is simply planed in 62 weeks from January? What kind of certiain information will be cut off? What what will be planed on this new date in December? Thanks for your replies.

It's the fulfilling of certain types of prophecy Universal Jester.
The 'power' of the 'Holy Roman Empire' of the last 1980 years or so derives from the establishment of archetypical structures.
Knowing of those structures, allowed the PTB to confiscate the 'human groupmind', as these archetypes cannot be 'ignored'.
It's like the Zodiac of Mesopotamia (and others like the Chinese of course).
The construction EXISTS, irrespective of the skeptics and the debunkers, claiming this or that regarding ist efficiency and scientific validity.

So to DISEMPOWER the 'archetypes', say as 'astrology', 'numerology' or the 'Holy Roman Empire' (in politics and religion of course); the archetypes themselves must be REDEFINED or RETRANSLATED.

In terms of religion, this was precisely the cause of the world wars.
To 'get rid' of the 'prophecied second coming'; the PTB attempted to manufacture and 'force' it in THEIR retranslation of the archetypes.

The polarisation on this thread between the pro-Thubanites and the anti-Thubanites is the same archetype or MEME manifesting itself as a group-consciousness.

In the second WW it was Hitler's Agartha of the Luminari versus the so characterised Jewish Shamballa of the Illuminati.
Both however, as many here now, are but faces of the same coin, the Brotherhood of the Snake under the auspices of Abraxas aka Abrasax.

Of course, the 1000-year Reich did not eventuate in the Agartha sense, but since has become the attempt by the Illuminati to manifest, say coinciding with the hype of the 2012.

Ok then, this will backfire for all 'brotherhoods'; as the 2nd Order of Abraxas has become absorbed in the 1st Order of the LOGOS.

So the 1st Order has 'overruled' the timeline manipulations of the 2nd and 3rd orders (attempted for the last 4000 years in the present human civilisation) and it is this timeline the Thubanese dispensation is addressing AS AN OFFERING to the 1st Order.

So then should the 1st Order of the Universe accept this 'offering' as a ''Story Told'; then the archetypes will be changed in concordance with the Retranslations of what is here termed the Council of Thuban.
Recall THUBAN=FREEDOM=66=WOMAN, the WOMAN being not Gaia, but the UNIVERSAL MOther as the creation itself.

AA



Interesting. What do they say is the greater time line events?

I shall publish details when so appropriate dear Jester of the Universe.

AA

[iainl140285]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

And Here; for some SANITY: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraxas

Howdy iainl!

Should you compare the translations and interpretations you might observe the differences.

AA

Thank you. But if the CIA are willing to edit their own Wiki pages, as are the Vatican Im sure any such group could do so. This will be my final observation ...

Is the AA not the masonic representation of light and dark/shadow?

The AA are often used as saviours .. Alcoholics Anonomys, The AA breakdown service

Can you link to the post where you revealed info. on the 18/01?

Thank U
Regards

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by iainl140285

Thank you. But if the CIA are willing to edit their own Wiki pages, as are the Vatican Im sure any such group could do so. This will be my final observation ...

Is the AA not the masonic representation of light and dark/shadow?

The AA are often used as saviours .. Alcoholics Anonomys, The AA breakdown service

Can you link to the post where you revealed info. on the 18/01?

Thank U
Regards

Sure iainl!
Posts #1 and #566!

AA