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Old 02-11-2010, 07:17 AM   #1
shiftmonkey
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Default Re: Article: 100% Proof Google is Keeping Conspiracy Sites Down

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Not really suspicious at all. When you upload a website to the Internet, search engines look for key words. Once found the engine creates a list of sites. This will go from the most likely site to the most unlikely site.

If your savvy with website building you'll use the most likely key words then you'll implement a SEO (search engine optimiser). This really allows you to fine tune the site to be most attractive to ANY search engine.

So!...if your good and have an understanding of the SEO protocols you can get your website right up there on the list, even when it's unrelated to the requirements of the persons search.

As a case in point google ....French military victories. Click the one at the top of the list. You get a spoof google site that’s says, "Not found. Did you mean French military defeats?"

This was a classic but funny case of SEO. Right at the top of the list is the complete opposite or unrelated website to the search requirements.

NO conspiracy just savvy SEO.... your welcome.
Did you read the article Steve? Maybe I'm missing something but SEO for keywords is a completely different aspect of site ranking. The article does not mention keyword relevancy as you are describing- it refers to "link relevancy".

The article points out that the link figures on popular conspiracy sites (which one can find with a special "link search") come up much lower than the actual figures.

He gives some examples and describes the process that he used to find the discrepancy in the numbers. If the link relevancy is kept artificially low, those sites will have lower rankings.
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Old 02-11-2010, 09:04 AM   #2
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There's a reason for this and it isn't SEO. SEO is still important, but it stopped being the main show about three years ago when Google altered their algorithms.

What happens right now is each site has a PageRank which is kind of like a popularity meter for your website. Basically, the more established your site is and the more hits it has, the higher the page rank and the higher it will be in the search results. Any MSM news site will have more than double the pagerank of a "conspiracy" website due to just the amount of traffic they are pushing.

To see what I'm talking about go to http://www.prchecker.info/check_page_rank.php and type in a MSM news site and then type in the conspiracy sites. See how much higher the pagerank is for the MSM sites and you will understand why they always rank highest.

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Old 02-11-2010, 12:30 PM   #3
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Default Re: Article: 100% Proof Google is Keeping Conspiracy Sites Down

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There's a reason for this and it isn't SEO. SEO is still important, but it stopped being the main show about three years ago when Google altered their algorithms.

What happens right now is each site has a PageRank which is kind of like a popularity meter for your website. Basically, the more established your site is and the more hits it has, the higher the page rank and the higher it will be in the search results. Any MSM news site will have more than double the pagerank of a "conspiracy" website due to just the amount of traffic they are pushing.

To see what I'm talking about go to http://www.prchecker.info/check_page_rank.php and type in a MSM news site and then type in the conspiracy sites. See how much higher the pagerank is for the MSM sites and you will understand why they always rank highest.

--sjkted
I'm not disagreeing with you, but I still don't understand how that explains the discrepancy in the link figures as described in the article.The amount of links to a site will still have an effect on that site's ranking right? The numbers listed in the ":link" search are significantly lower than the actual figures.
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Old 02-11-2010, 01:54 PM   #4
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Default Re: Article: 100% Proof Google is Keeping Conspiracy Sites Down

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Did you read the article Steve? Maybe I'm missing something but SEO for keywords is a completely different aspect of site ranking. The article does not mention keyword relevancy as you are describing- it refers to "link relevancy".

The article points out that the link figures on popular conspiracy sites (which one can find with a special "link search") come up much lower than the actual figures.

He gives some examples and describes the process that he used to find the discrepancy in the numbers. If the link relevancy is kept artificially low, those sites will have lower rankings.
I confess I'm no Internet expert but from my own website building I know the importance of key words and SEO. That's what I based my reply on. However, SJKTED has answered the question for both of us.

Also may I point out the link you supplied is way way out of date. Not being funny but you should noticed that. It was published in August of 2007.

When I was testing the theory in the link I noticed an error or an anomaly. Look at these links and notice the dots used :::::::: The author supplied a : link but no . link. See below.

Link:www.infowars.com 5,340....respective links
Link.www.infowars.com 307,000
www.infowars.com 3,860,000
google search infowars 1,390,000

did the same for the jolly old BBC

Link:www.bbc.com 21,300....respective hits
Link.www.bbc.com 34,500,000
www.bbc.com 254,000
google search BBC 115,000,000

It seems it's all a bit of popularity contest. On the beauty pageant of google searches it seems conspiracy sites are low on the agenda.

EDIT to clarify... its the :::::: used after the word link.

EDIT made a typo and CORRECTED google search infowars to 1,390,000 NOT 139,000 as I posted ....sorry for that

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