The ego what is it? How to transcend?

[feardia]

double post, thats twice today
one love, people get ready...

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by feardia

double post, thats twice today
one love, people get ready...

Me too.
Thanks for cruising by feardie.
boats my second love.
Chris

[greybeard]

Great story Mudra

Atoms of course are mainly empty too.
Love
Chris

[greybeard]

This spiritual ego would like to thank all contributers to the tread.
I have and am still learning so much.

Chris
Namaste

[aloha]

aloha



and I bring you the good news
there is no ego as en entity that exists on its own
the Ego is just a concept, an idea, a thoughtform, a point of view
and like all other points of view
it comes and it goes - like clouds in the sky
and so we always have the choice of hanging on to the points of view that comes by
or let them go and rather stay in the nature of what we are - Awareness
relaxing and resting as Awareness


mahalo

[greybeard]

Thanks Mahalo.
This is true.
There are a lot of posts in the thread saying much the same from different points of view.
I re-read the whole thing from page one from time to time, so much good positive information.

Chris
Namaste

[truthseekerdan]

The ego-self is made up of all the tattvas of Nature, and constitutes the whole mind and body complex. It is visible and tangible and can be recognized based on its distinct form and attributes. It is a layer of impurities or a veil formed around the Soul like soot on the glass of a lamp. It envelops the Soul and prevents it from shining through. It extends itself into the world through the mind and the senses. Its consciousness is filled with desires, instincts, emotions, thoughts, impressions, memories and such mental formations which give rise to afflictions (vrittis) in our mind-body aural field (citta). Some aspects of its consciousness become latent impressions (samskaras) and accompany the soul to the next birth. According to Hindu scriptures, the ego-self is subject to the five limitations of space, time, knowledge, power and happiness. In other words, it is characterized by limited space, limited life, limited knowledge, limited power and limited happiness.

To read the entire article click here

[aloha]

aloha



to make something illusory into some-thing tangible is a futile affair . . . .


mahalo

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by aloha

aloha



to make something illusory into some-thing tangible is a futile affair . . . .


mahalo

Thanks aloha.
So true.
Most people cant see that unfortunately.
Love Chris

[greybeard]

Bump.
Cant think of anything to say at the moment.
Aint that great.

[futureyes]

ego could be defined as whatever covers up basic goodness ...
from an experiential point of view ...
what is ego covering up?

it's covering up our experience of just being here ...
just fully being where we are ...
so that we can relate with the immediacy ...
of our experience ...

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by futureyes

ego could be defined as whatever covers up basic goodness ...
from an experiential point of view ...
what is ego covering up?

it's covering up our experience of just being here ...
just fully being where we are ...
so that we can relate with the immediacy ...
of our experience ...

Thanks futureyes.
Yes every word carries baggage a history.
It is almost impossible to see anything fresh and new as it really is.
The ego needs past to exist.

When I did therapy I would ask some clients what the word dog meant to them.
Just one word---dog.
To some it brought up a strong fear reaction.
Others love. followed by Rover stories.
and a few were indifferent,
So you can see the difficulty in communicating with the other.
There is a quote. "Hell is the other"
So often we are sure we are expressing clearly only to find our intention etc is being mis-understood.
In order to have a clear understanding of the content of a communication, the context must be clear, that is what gives meaning to content.
The ego loves to miss-understand and be quarrelsome.
In relationships a common ego statement is.
"But you promised." normal implying. You promised to make me happy and you dident.
or "You said."
Eckhart Tolle wrote in "The Power of Now"
"Relationships are not there to make you happy at this time but to dissolve your ego. You will learn more from three failed relationships than three years spent on a dessert Island" The context being that you are looking for spiritual growth.
Namaste
Chris

[futureyes]

you make me smile chris ...
your words always have ...
see

to not be mis-understood ...
is to take responsibility ... and ownership ...
of the words we communicate to others ...
BEfore ... they are spoken ... or written ...

as they say ... think before you speak ...

it is a process isn't it ...
to realize ... how precious our communication really is ...

what we convey ... extends ... and ripples ...
beyond ... the receiver ...

the ego ... would rather ... we not utilize our words wisely ...
this i feel ... is happening much too fluently ...
within our world ...

it is a process ... for certain ...


egolessness ... is a state of mind ...
which has complete confidence ...
in the sacredness of this world ...

it is unconditional well being ...
unconditional joy ...
that of which includes all the different qualities ...
of our experiences ...


I AM ...
still smiling ...


let there be less ego ... less fear ...
and greater joy ... and love ...
for all ...


afterall ... LOVE IS ...
beyond ego ...

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by futureyes

you make me smile chris ...
your words always have ...
see

to not be mis-understood ...
is to take responsibility ... and ownership ...
of the words we communicate to others ...
BEfore ... they are spoken ... or written ...

as they say ... think before you speak ...

it is a process isn't it ...
to realize ... how precious our communication really is ...

what we convey ... extends ... and ripples ...
beyond ... the receiver ...

the ego ... would rather ... we not utilize our words wisely ...
this i feel ... is happening much too fluently ...
within our world ...

it is a process ... for certain ...


egolessness ... is a state of mind ...
which has complete confidence ...
in the sacredness of this world ...

it is unconditional well being ...
unconditional joy ...
that of which includes all the different qualities ...
of our experiences ...


I AM ...
still smiling ...


let there be less ego ... less fear ...
and greater joy ... and love ...
for all ...


afterall ... LOVE IS ...
beyond ego ...

IM SMILING TOO ---BIG TIME.

Thanks futureyes.
I will really miss posting here.
So many though provoking responses.
Far better than provoking ones
Not that there were any of those.
Even a small start on transcending the ego can bring much peace.
One good way is to refrain from labeling.
If you do you are not really seeing anything other than a category.
For example if your are looking at a bird refrain from any mental comment.
The mind wants to pigeon--hole it smiling.
While the mind is processing thought it is not 100% aware of the bird at all.
Spiritually speaking you are unconscious you have lost the presence of one of Gods beautiful creatures. If you really look you will be dumb struck at the perfection of the moment.
Ch

Chris

[Zenith]

Phew,

So....in the end what one transcends....
is the illusion that there is something to transcend.

Much wisdom here, thanks to all.


Peace

ps- Regarding words, I always liked the 'Sutra of the Perfection of Wisdom
in One Letter', ('A' - Sanskrit = 'no' or 'not').
Now...those guys have got a sense of humour,
and alot of spare time.

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by Zenith

Phew,

So....in the end what one transcends....
is the illusion that there is something to transcend.

Much wisdom here, thanks to all.


Peace

ps- Regarding words, I always liked the 'Sutra of the Perfection of Wisdom
in One Letter', ('A' - Sanskrit = 'no' or 'not').
Now...those guys have got a sense of humour,
and alot of spare time.

Thanks
You got in ONE.
Without humor where would we be??????
Chris

[Zenith]

Originally Posted by greybeard

Thanks
You got in ONE.
Without humor where would we be??????
Chris

I don't really know, where are we now?
Sorry, does 6 question marks indicate a rhetorical question??????

Peace

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by Zenith

I don't really know, where are we now?
Sorry, does 6 question marks indicate a rhetorical question??????

Peace

Indeed Zenith
The key stuck for a moment?????????
Just like that.

I laugh because the thread is by the ego suggesting and asking egos for ways to speed up its demise.
Only it doesn't know that.
It thinks its going to be an enlightened ego.
I haven't the heart to tell it otherwise.
Im quite fond of christopher and the things he gets up to but I must surrender that fondness to the greater Love of God.

As to where we are aI can only answer or my self.
Im home ward bound.
Anyone know a short cut?
Think I tried them all over many life times.
Back to
Love love and then see what happens.

Ch

[LucidJia]

"All matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves."

Bill Hicks.

[greybeard]

Yes, thats lucid enough.
Idra's dream.
Chris

[greybeard]

Its Monday the sun is shining, its cool 5c. Its British summer time.
Great start to the week.


Welcome to the thread.
If you havent been here before, please read some of the early pages, there are lots of great contributions with varying points of view.
Chris

[14 Chakras]

Ok friends, read this, you'll thank me as you are coming up higher in consciousness and freeing yourself from lack and limitation, this is the good stuff here, this is the good stuff, enjoy:

Part 1. Spiritual blindness – the main challenge presented by the ego
Part 2. Why the ego cannot see the forest for the trees
Part 3. Why the ego is trying to fit a square peg into a round hole
Part 4. Why the ego becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy
Part 5. Why the ego wants you to think the world is black and white
Part 6. Why the ego wants you to think the world is gray
Part 7. How the ego can use a spiritual teaching to abort your quest for truth
Part 8. How the ego seeks to divert your attention from the inner path
Part 9. Why the ego will always be a house divided against itself