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Old 10-26-2008, 03:47 AM   #1
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" Seperation, segregation, black, white, chineese, catholic, christian, geek, jock, goth, terrorist, idealist, politician, civilian.. We are all one, the illusion of polarities is in place as a school to teach us that there are no differences. We are one. I am you, you are me. And we are."

This is a very clever post.
Point out the differences, then say there are no differences.., thus implanting the thought!

" We live in a world so very full of speration. We are all different, or so one would think. Our differences range from the colour of our eyes to the colour of our skin. They range from the god we pray too, to the devil we worship "

Your first sentence would suggest NLP (neuro linguistic programming).
You are stating we live in a world of 'separation'..that we are 'all different' and 'so one would think.' You then tell us the 'range ' of differences like the colour of eyes,skin,gods or devils.
That language tells our subconscious that we are different, we are separate and we think that way. We may not be aware of it at first reading, but read it again..,slowly, and be aware that he is telling us the difference. He is trying to implant the thought of difference in an innocuous sentence. It may appear as a unifying spiritual post, but.., take your time, read it sentence by sentence and you will become aware of it's true nature.

" Project camelot is trying to help. Yet, it does not realise what true help means. True help means expressing to the people that we are here for our own good. We are here to learn, to evolve and continue our evolution onto the next density where our lessons expand onto those of love and compassion, of oneness "

Now, I'm no expert.., but that sentence does not make sense.
Read it again and again, then tell me that it doesn't leave you feeling 'icky'

"If the world was a peacefull and a nice place we would not be here. Most of us would be somewhere equally as difficult and polarised.

Instead of wasting our time trying to change the world, we will only benifit from focusing our intention on changing ourselves. Because the only way anyone will ever get out of this dimensional reality is through changing themselves. To truly understand that we are not different, that we are all the same. That each of us is 'God', the creator expressing himself in a different and unique manner. There is no black, there is no white. There is no right, there is no wrong. There just is.

You are me, and I am you. And we are."


Again, I have to say, I'm only stating my opinion on what this person is saying.
In this sentence, to me he is trying to tell me that I should not have opinions, free will.
That I should be selfish in my experience and I should look at the world as an 'onlooker', to experience, but not participate.
Personally, This smacks of control...like a big brother, Orwellian theme.. ' there is no black, no white, no wrong and so on....why doesn't he just put a chip in my head and get on with it!!
I don't have the time nor inclination to go into the rest of this post, but the negativity and new ageism of it will speak for itself.

I'm an ol' Paddy who remembers when my parents had to pawn their wedding rings, suits and bedding to feed us kids. The neighbours shared everything and the craic was great even though we were poor. we felt safe in our community 'cos we didn't know what it was like not to feel secure. We trusted and respected our neighbours. Were those people not enlightened? Have they gone to a different dimension lower than the one we have been told we are destined for?
Are we not been herded into a way of thinking that is beneficial to the new world order of thinking? My generation can remember what real spirituality was like before the indoctrination started 30 odd years ago, believe me....Love does not change, though time and people do.
Stop following 'Gurus', start following your heart..again.
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Old 10-26-2008, 04:11 AM   #2
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To Pilgrim.

I assure you that you are being overly paranoid.

I have absoultely nothing to gain from divulging this information.

And if its proof you look for as to who I am , I would be more then happy. Although i hope this will not be necessary.

I am fully aware of the workings of Neuro Linguistic Programming, having studied it for the past five years. But there is nothing to gain from me incorporating it into any of my posts. I neither have the motivation to such a thing nor the purpose.

Peace to you, I hope that over some carefull consideration you come to a true understanding as to what this thread really means.

Namaste

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Old 10-26-2008, 04:18 AM   #3
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I stand by my observations sir/madam.
And I'll always love you.
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Old 10-26-2008, 04:33 AM   #4
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The Ra 'channelings' are like twinkies for the soul. They taste good, but there's no nourishment.

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Old 10-26-2008, 10:52 PM   #5
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Hundreds of thousands saying and seeing things! Hundreds of thousands, and guess what? Not a single proof. Not a man or woman to stand up and show us one only proof, what is proof enough to me. Anyway, it is amusing, funny, sometimes distressing, reading, watching and listening to them. I see all as mirrors of my own dreams of something beyond the daily inexorable reality I like to believe in.
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Old 10-26-2008, 04:33 AM   #6
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Personally, This smacks of control...like a big brother
You have very clearly demonstrated why it is important to discriminate.

There are as many different perceptions truths as there are humans/perceivers. Sometimes we can share those perceptions, other times we cannot - they are not valid for the observer on their path at this time.

The way I read your message was that your ego was having a bit of a wrestling match with what TimeIsShort was trying to say. Thats ok too. You both do us all a service with your contributions.

Is the bout over? I cannot say, though I doubt it. This is a fight that ultimately the ego cannot win.

@TimeIsShort: At times it can be frustrating to put effort into a message to see it rejected, but it seems to me that this is the way the game has to be played.

Thanks to all of you.

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Old 10-26-2008, 04:43 AM   #7
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@TimeIsShort: At times it can be frustrating to put effort into a message to see it rejected, but it seems to me that this is the way the game has to be played.
Its alright. The message is quite profound, and its interpretations can vary as much as peoples perceptions. This was fully understood when i posted this. Which is why i outlined that this message could have profound implications for one person and be absolutely worthless to another. It all depends on peoples perceptions and their current knowledge of the incarnational cycles which dominate our existance.

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Old 10-26-2008, 05:11 AM   #8
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You have very clearly demonstrated why it is important to discriminate.

There are as many different perceptions truths as there are humans/perceivers. Sometimes we can share those perceptions, other times we cannot - they are not valid for the observer on their path at this time.

The way I read your message was that your ego was having a bit of a wrestling match with what TimeIsShort was trying to say. Thats ok too. You both do us all a service with your contributions.

Is the bout over? I cannot say, though I doubt it. This is a fight that ultimately the ego cannot win.

@TimeIsShort: At times it can be frustrating to put effort into a message to see it rejected, but it seems to me that this is the way the game has to be played.

Thanks to all of you.

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Anchor,
The receiver receives what the receiver wants to receive...,but sometimes the transmission is garbled, thus, misinterpreted..,sometimes.
I was stating my observations and by no means engaging in a war of words of which I am ill equipped for.
My post was/is not meant to offend nor embarrass, but to give my opinion to the thread.
New ageism tends to tell us that the ego is a bad thing, but as ego is part of the human personality and will always be, until such times 'til the chip comes in, we will always have a human personality/ego and long may it be so. It's what makes us different and has little to do with our spiritual being.

And as far as fighting is concerned, well., I think war has proved how unproductive that is.
No malice was intended in my reply to 'TimeisShort' and if it offends, then please remove it.
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