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Old 05-04-2009, 03:09 PM   #1
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Old 05-04-2009, 03:13 PM   #3
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Come on guys......be kind
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Old 05-04-2009, 03:14 PM   #4
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Ok, so far I have told my cats and they are dumbfounded..
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Old 05-04-2009, 05:45 PM   #6
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Hey, it might not be NEW news, but it's not BAD news!
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Old 05-04-2009, 07:22 PM   #7
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Hey, it might not be NEW news, but it's not BAD news!
And the value is on "not BAD"
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Ok, so far I have told my cats and they are dumbfounded..
I'm loving the humor and sarcasm. Thank you.
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I'm loving the humor and sarcasm. Thank you.
I did not want to be sarcastic. It was a joke.
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Old 05-06-2009, 06:26 AM   #10
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Interesting article Adamui.

Ive not come across Calleman's research before, will look more into it.

Tell me why you mention transition to 5D and not 4D?

In the Telos books Adama also talks about some of us joining them in 5D soon aswel. Why wouldnt we spend at least a few hundred years in 4D learning the wisdom of love first? Can you help me understand this point of view as opposed to the Ra Material understanding of ascension.

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Interesting article Adamui.

Ive not come across Calleman's research before, will look more into it.

Tell me why you mention transition to 5D and not 4D?

In the Telos books Adama also talks about some of us joining them in 5D soon aswel. Why wouldnt we spend at least a few hundred years in 4D learning the wisdom of love first? Can you help me understand this point of view as opposed to the Ra Material understanding of ascension.

Thank you and kind regards,

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I would speculate that it is because a lot of us are already in 4D much of the time, and there is still duality in 4D. For positive polarity folks, 5D is the place to be.
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David Wilcock also says we will transition into 5D with a brief stop in full 4D. This is because the Earth is already in 4D and is moving into 5D. So it seem the Earth is upgrading us to 4D then moving us in 5D with it.
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October 28, 2011 - Souls Graduation Day. How delightful! I shall be sure to wear a broad brim straw hat and bring along some flowers from the earth.
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I would speculate that it is because a lot of us are already in 4D much of the time, and there is still duality in 4D. For positive polarity folks, 5D is the place to be.
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October 28, 2011 - Souls Graduation Day. How delightful! I shall be sure to wear a broad brim straw hat and bring along some flowers from the earth.
Thanks guys.. sounds good.

Adamui;
Ive ordered the book 'Mayan Calendar and the Transformation of Consciousness' by Carl Calleman and Jose Arguelles.
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October 28, 2011 - Souls Graduation Day. How delightful! I shall be sure to wear a broad brim straw hat and bring along some flowers from the earth.
Ok, whats with this Graduation thing? This is the second time I have heard this phrase.
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Ok, whats with this Graduation thing? This is the second time I have heard this phrase.
Rayelan Allen from Rumor Mill News discusses this in her book The Obergon Chronicles and has to do with a group of souls who have finished the numerous life learning cycles on this planet and are ready for graduation. The key goal for the soul is to learn compassion. Those souls who have not learned this will be shipped off to other planets and earth will go through a cleansing clean-up process and made whole again. The next group of souls to be here are ones who live in harmony. This school's lessons are coming to an end and a new curriculum is to be developed for the next group of souls to inhabit this planet.
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Rayelan Allen from Rumor Mill News discusses this in her book The Obergon Chronicles and has to do with a group of souls who have finished the numerous life learning cycles on this planet and are ready for graduation. The key goal for the soul is to learn compassion. Those souls who have not learned this will be shipped off to other planets and earth will go through a cleansing clean-up process and made whole again. The next group of souls to be here are ones who live in harmony. This school's lessons are coming to an end and a new curriculum is to be developed for the next group of souls to inhabit this planet.
Thank you Carol. This has been bothering me for a long time. One for it's meaning on the soul / ET level and two; I had an abduction years ago just to tell me I had graduated. Three human looking males about 7 feet in front of me and the one to the far right walked over, shook my had and said verbally "congratulations" and mentally, "you have graduated".

On a side note, while putting shrimp and veggies on the BBQ a couple hours ago, I had a black hawk helicopter cross over the tree tops, turn around and cross over again in an X configuration. Maybe not related to anything but still out of the ordinary.
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Thank you Carol. This has been bothering me for a long time. One for it's meaning on the soul / ET level and two; I had an abduction years ago just to tell me I had graduated. Three human looking males about 7 feet in front of me and the one to the far right walked over, shook my had and said verbally "congratulations" and mentally, "you have graduated".

On a side note, while putting shrimp and veggies on the BBQ a couple hours ago, I had a black hawk helicopter cross over the tree tops, turn around and cross over again in an X configuration. Maybe not related to anything but still out of the ordinary.
The whole "graduation" scenario is very popular and very important to starseeds over the last decade. The information about it seems very logical, yet has no physical proof or evidence to confirm its validity.

Graduation - The day starseeds (which is basically Humanity) get to go back "home."

I'm very interested in what others think about this!
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The whole "graduation" scenario is very popular and very important to starseeds over the last decade. The information about it seems very logical, yet has no physical proof or evidence to confirm its validity.
No physical proof or evidence. A lot like your own claims perhaps?
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No physical proof or evidence. A lot like your own claims perhaps?
There can't be physical proof for things that aren't physical at all. How do you know air exists? How do you know there is such thing as a soul? Or even consciousness? Or how about proving that a certain color is that way for a reason? You can't because the "proof" isn't something physical or tangible that you can hold and look at.
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Physicallity is an ilusion.. even your body Iain is 99.99% nothingness/vaccum you cant seek physical proof for any spiritual truths.
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Old 05-16-2009, 07:08 PM   #22
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Total BS!! How dumb are you guys to believe in these craps.. all information that pertains to 2012 and ascension are government disinfo! You can tap to your oversoul anytime and get information about ur alternate selves (ETs and aliens or other vibrational states)..no need for special time to ascend!!

adamui might be an innocent mind programed personality or NSA agent!
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Total BS!! How dumb are you guys to believe in these craps.. all information that pertains to 2012 and ascension are government disinfo! You can tap to your oversoul anytime and get information about ur alternate selves (ETs and aliens or other vibrational states)..no need for special time to ascend!!

adamui might be an innocent mind programed personality or NSA agent!
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seems logical ,in light that entities from other realms have easier and easier to
interact with us and are helping writing great books or post inspiring
messages and insightful guidance power that Be and in general NWO
guys are atempting to jam that interaction and messages.
one of favorite jamming technique is and psy op is New Age movement
which is blend of true information that are more or less verifiable
or resonate in our BS detectors as neutral with more of the same ,hope in
future or looking in the past to distract us from what is now
which is only real .
the second best technique is blend in lots and lots of "fear for your life " stuff
which can overwhelm more basic and hence by definition lower in understanding and vibration part of our mind ,the Egoistic part .
but now is not the time for distractions of false hope in the future Ascension or
old one "rapture " message or panic over our physical survival
it is time to be here "now " internally integrated ,healed ,and connected to Higher Self .

that is
the only salvation ,Obama and Hope and change is just a another trick .
so is 2012 and one minute in the whole Universe (December 21 ,2012 ,11;11 am )
where everything will change .

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seems logical ,in light that entities from other realms have easier and easier to
interact with us and are helping writing great books or post inspiring
messages and insightful guidance power that Be and in general NWO
guys are atempting to jam that interaction and messages.
one of favorite jamming technique is and psy op is New Age movement
which is blend of true information that are more or less verifiable
or resonate in our BS detectors as neutral with more of the same ,hope in
future or looking in the past to distract us from what is now
which is only real .
the second best technique is blend in lots and lots of "fear for your life " stuff
which can overwhelm more basic and hence by definition lower in understanding and vibration part of our mind ,the Egoistic part .
but now is not the time for distractions of false hope in the future Ascension or
old one "rapture " message or panic over our physical survival
it is time to be here "now " internally integrated ,healed ,and connected to Higher Self .

that is
the only salvation ,Obama and Hope and change is just a another trick .
so is 2012 and one minute in the whole Universe (December 21 ,2012 ,11;11 am )
where everything will change .
you are absolutely right.... There is no difference between someone spreading fear and panic about future, and some one spreading love-ascension and 2012 ...they are all tricks to skew people away form the truth and to keep ppl docile... and the ultimate truth is that there is no past or future there is only NOW! by focusing on NOW you choose your own timeline within the species' mind-pattern, and if enough people focuses on NOW to attract positive timeline then the whole species' (humanity) mind-pattern changes to something good. This is called real change in civilization and it does not need 2012 date or mayan calander...it can happen tomorrow or in 50 years.. All solutions already exist in God-mind our job is to only choose what we want individually and collectively!!!

@adamui: plz go and deprogram urself!!
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Total BS!! How dumb are you guys to believe in these craps.. all information that pertains to 2012 and ascension are government disinfo! You can tap to your oversoul anytime and get information about ur alternate selves (ETs and aliens or other vibrational states)..no need for special time to ascend!!

adamui might be an innocent mind programed personality or NSA agent!
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OMG you believe the GOVERNMENTs are spreading ASCENSION info

2011, 2012.. once we get through to at least march-april 2013 and nothing significant in the world has changed. THEN please feel free to point your all-knowing fingers and be the first to say "I TOLD YOU SO".

Until that time all cards are still on the table waiting to be revealed.

If you dont agree with Adamui or any of the other people wanting to discuss these topics use your discernment and leave these people in peace.

Thanks and all the best for the future.

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