Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ?

firefly · 08-14-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RedeZra

Hi firefly

It sounds like it is from God

If so would you be so kind to share all of what was written
and maybe leave out what is personal and intended for your family only

We are all - the good the bad and the ugly - children of our Father most High

And the reason He did not uproot and weed out yet
must be because He still awaits the return of more of His Prodigal Sons and Daughters

I will gladly do so as I already have spent some time typing into the message board, but some little gremlin wouldn't let me post it. I'll try again tomorrow.

Love and friendship
firefly/

RedeZra · 08-14-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by firefly

I will gladly do so as I already have spent some time typing into the message board, but some little gremlin wouldn't let me post it.

Oh word of advice - better to type it in notepad first or take a copy of it before pushing the submit button

I think too long time typing it could be the little gremlin here : )

firefly · 08-16-2009, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedeZra

Oh word of advice - better to type it in notepad first or take a copy of it before pushing the submit button

I think too long time typing it could be the little gremlin here : )

Thanks for your tip, here is the rest of the revelation.

"You Have become a Disease on this planet killing, everything
in your path just as the demons have planned for you to do. You Kill
life therefore they will take you and eventually everything will be
consumed into nothing.

You are athe creation and you must remember that the demons are
everywhere gradually taking control of this creation.

I will destroy it one time has come. Not destroy the world but destroy
the disease that has become of this creation.......etc.

There are hundreds of genuine people who have done some very wrong things
in order to get this world into shape and where it is to-day. But many
people have taken much life or contributed in creating and allowing
the penetration of this disease into mankind so they cannot see or even
begin to understand as to what God and the Creation are and that they
are one and the same and how unique you are on this planet. This Garden
of Eden that allowed you My Creation to live enjoy and be creators of
yourself through the Earth your Mother who bore you, and I the Father who
is your Soul your Light your Energy that is you.

Man is unique because I made him like Me, Not in the physical sense but
in the sense that I gave them the power to think, to create, to achieve what
ever their minds desire. However, these demons have been trying to control
you, these demons that I once locked away are creeping back in, fooling
man into many beliefs to advance their technology and their plans. If I
don't stop them they will consume you through deceit and lies. These are
the sins, the demons all instructed by satan their leader to devour
My Creation in whatever means possible. However,I will not let that happen,
I will destroy him for good and all his offspring and followers. No one will
escape Me.

There are many out there that have done no wrong but remain ignorant to the
happenings on a spiritual level, they concentrate on their sports the media
and other outlets. These are ways of keeping them controlled. Most people
will not believe that this Creation in front of them is not the Creator
(God).

I will stop this, save as many that are worthy and are not blinded by the
beliefs the new world provides.

Jesus was the son I created to save your souls from the demons. It is
through Him you can gain redemption for your sins against my Creation,
through the life you have had to lead, the choices you make and lessons you
learn along the way.

I WILL LOOK AFTER THE CHILDREN THAT ARE STILL MINE AND BELIEVE IN ME."

14 Chakras · 08-17-2009, 06:20 AM

Firefly, thanks for sharing! Complex topics are brought up here...

I will share my take:

Consider, our mind is like radio receiver and it can tune into many different stations. Depending on where our own vibration is at, based on our beliefs and emotions, we will tune into different stations. There are many stations between here and the spiritual realm.

My discernment tells me to carefully consider scare tactics may come from impostors, fallen beings or false Gods that manage the people through fear. Fear is indeed a vibration that enables many dark forces to manipulate humanity and feed from them.

Consider the infinite does not want any of it's children to fear. In fact, consider you literally create karma when you fear because you are lowering the vibration of your God given energy, which is Pure when you receive it, and misplacing it as fear, which is an energy of low vibrations and which will feed the illusions behind it. We will reap as we sew, and consider whatever energy you send out is your own responsibility. So when we fear, we are actually creating a karmic debt by miss qualifying pure energy that we have received as pure energy and lowering it in vibration and releasing it through fear.

Behind all life is the divine energy of the infinite, which is love based, not fear based. There is no separation in reality, only illusions of separation. These illusions have taken on a life of their own, which explains some of the false God's that are fed by the energy of fear.

Consider, as Jesus said, humanity can earn life eternal and permanence in the mind of the infinite by multiplying their talents and knowing the truth that will set you free. In order to do this you must be reborn, as Jesus often repeated. Consider, to be reborn means to overcome the illusions of the carnal mind, or human ego, and be reborn into the reality that all life is One. Your eye must be single in order to inherit the kingdom.

All life is meant to be an expression of the infinite. Unfortunately, much of it has fallen under the illusion that separation is reality and this has caused an imbalance in much of life's expressions.

Consider, there are many false gods, fallen angels and beings, entities, beast etc. a significant number of which are perfectly capable of giving messages to us if we enter their vibration. We will tune into their 'radio station'. This is not a slight on us in any way. It is indeed a divine talent to be able to tune the radio receiver, the brain, to stations other than 3d. It's a matter though, of putting in the work to purify our own consciousness so we will tune into the highest frequencies. The more we are in the vibration of fear, ego, or any other illusions, the more we're going to be open to tuning into the wrong station and receiving false messages.

Consider the real 'God' does not require worship or human beliefs.Does the consciousness behind the entire virtually infinite universe require the worship from humans on a planet smaller than the size of a speck of dust when compared to the whole?

Consider false God's and fallen beings do receive energy from humans when they worship it, when they give their power to a false God outside of them rather than connecting to the father within, the infinite within. Consider messages that say those who don't worship me or believe what I say will be punished, are not from the source, rather from a being that receives energy from human's own attention being placed on them. And consider, even a true message from a higher vibration will be colored by whatever beliefs and illusions the messenger holds.

Consider, what the infinite does desire, is for us to demonstrate our love by loving and raising up all life, because life itself is an expression of the infinite. Consider the infinite also desires us to recognize that the Father is within us, rather than outside of us and to let the consciousness within be the doer.

To love the infinite behind the illusion often involves challenging the illusion to help wake up the divine consciousness behind it. Sometimes love is tough love as Jesus demonstrated when he confronted the scribes and the pharisees, the religious fundamentalist of his day. He challenged their teachings of the angry God in the sky and their rule based religion. Consider he did so to help free the people from the bondage of fearing the angry false god in the sky and instead connecting to the loving father consciousness within themselves.

Consider Jesus message is about shining our own God given light here in the matter realm so life can be raised up and remember it's inner divinity. The infinite multiplies our talents when we do so.

Consider, it's not about what church we go to, what religion we were born into, what beliefs we have. Consider it is first and foremost about the purity of our heart and intentions.

Consider it is the dark forces of this world that wish to make us feel powerless and give up our power to something outside of us. This is the illusion that must be overcome in order to follow in Jesus footsteps as he continually asked us to do.

Many are called, few choose. To choose, you must choose to enter the kingdom of heaven that is already here at hand, inside of you, and you will do so when you know the the truth that will set you free, 'I and my father are One'. Of course, this involves grace, but it is about putting forth our best efforts, walking the path and watching the infinite multiply our efforts.

Then the caterpillar will be reborn as the butterfly, you will do the works that Jesus did, only greater works than these you will do. The world will be raised up through the LOVE of the infinite, and as Paul said, we're here to be the body of God below and God is Love.

My take

RedeZra · 08-17-2009, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

...My discernment tells me to carefully consider scare tactics may come from impostors, fallen beings or false Gods that manage the people through fear.

Is it not so that our world is in dire straits and have been so for a long time

If so would it be scare tactics to point to the reality of it

Either one believes or believes not in an Almighty Creator
Or one can sit on the fence and see where one eventually falls

If one believes in an Almighty Creator then it is contrary to common sense to try to impose limits on Him

Who can make right all that is wrong in the world today
Who knows the Adversary

Let us continue to be loving truthful and righteous

So when the time comes for wrong to be made right
See to it that we are not cut down

14 Chakras · 08-17-2009, 07:36 AM

"If one believes in an Almighty Creator then it is contrary to common sense to try to impose limits on Him "

Good point. Let's not limit what the infinite can do through us! Let the 'father' within do the work, and in reality, there are no limitations.

RedeZra · 08-17-2009, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 14 Chakras

Good point. Let's not limit what the infinite can do through us! Let the 'father' within do the work, and in reality, there are no limitations.

lol the infinite dont need to work through us

Rather we are within the Father and by our good intentions we can rise to the threshold of His stature til He let us in

firefly · 08-18-2009, 02:59 AM

Thank You 14 Chakras and RedeZra for your replies, however I must explain that at the time of my daughters revelation she had turned away from any concept of the Creator interfering in his creation here on Earth. And started questioning her spiritual beliefs and considering the possibility that Jesus did not even exist! Being an IT Programmer she was steering towards a more scientific purpose for our existence ( to my disappointment).

So it was to my great surprise when this incident happened. And yes, we must always practice discernment if possible. But how can we know if the information is coming from who we think it is. My daughter has developed doubts as to who it was that was speaking to her, even though she believes mankind has taken the wrong path in relation to our planet she had adopted an opposing view and spiritual belief to me.

So I feel the message she was given was more for my eyes and not necessarily for hers.

Love and friendship
firefly

RedeZra · 08-18-2009, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firefly

...however I must explain that at the time of my daughters revelation she had turned away from any concept of the Creator interfering in his creation here on Earth. And started questioning her spiritual beliefs and considering the possibility that Jesus did not even exist!

Tnx for sharing firefly

A convenient time to interfere : )

Yes its a question of faith which will hopefully unfold into understanding
Not so easy to believe in such a superhuman being who transcends all science

Quote:

Originally Posted by firefly

...But how can we know if the information is coming from who we think it is.

Its hard to know for sure
But take heed of the message and make what you want of it
God will not fool you

firefly · 08-18-2009, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedeZra

Tnx for sharing firefly

A convenient time to interfere : )

Yes its a question of faith which will hopefully unfold into understanding
Not so easy to believe in such a superhuman being who transcends all science

Its hard to know for sure
But take heed of the message and make what you want of it
God will not fool you

Thank You RedeZra for your reply and your words of wisdom .

Love and friendship
firefly

wynderer · 12-23-2009, 12:16 PM

Hi Housemouse2 -- that was an interesting post, on the use of the Name of Jesus as a symbol -- however, this was not so in my case -- not saying that someone using the Name as a symbol would not have success --

for myself, i've always felt that those who use symbols are using a somewhat corrupted form of spiritual power -- like, why use symbols/rituals when you can go directly to the Creator? & certainly the nwo is misusing the power of symbols on the collective & individual consciousness -- it's a kind of 3D/
4D 'spirituality' only

it's easy to go to/be directly w/the Creator when around the innocent & pure on our Earth -- i.e., Earth herself, the trees, animals, birds, etc -- but when in the scary world of human beings & our many uninvited visitors from space & other dimensions, help from others in higher dimensions is much appreciated & often needed

my post that got knocked off was a full account of the abduction i woke up in & fought back, ending the abductions about 3 wks later by using the Name of Jesus -- that was in '98 or '99 -- & only the 2nd time in my life i'd done so

synchronistically for me, just a few days ago i did so for the third time, so it is fresh in my mind -- long story -- basically where i am living right now, there is an energy portal that i think is also connected to the underground tunnel system -- this area filled w/salt caves/caverns, some natural, some from digging for the salt -- the portal not in the hands of the Good Guys, & i have been subject to a lot of harrassment on more than one dimensional level -- others have heard the crashings & bangings & footsteps, etc-- the 3D manifestations--

come to think of it, it was the nite of the solstice -- i just kind of reached the point where i'd had it up to here w/all the invasions of my space -- i gave the human living here, who aids & abets the portal guys, a good piece of my mind; then, as w/stopping the abductions, not planning to do this -- i found myself standing, facing the portal in the next room, & shouting in anger,' I mean you no harm, but I am under the protection & care of Jesus & His Angels, & LEAVE ME ALONE!'

as i was shouting, i was aware of some very powerful Beings standing all around me, incl covering my back --the sell-out human here looked really scared

it is my impression that many abductees -- those relative few who remember, tho more are as the quickening picks up pace -- i think many live in fear -- i am familiar w/the fear that comes from post-hypnotic suggestions helped by implants -- the fear of talking/writing/even thinking about the abductions -- & also i know that strange sleepiness that hits when one is trying to write or talk about this subject

i have tried to adopt Edgar Cayce's personal prayer -- 'Others, Lord, others' -- & don't really like talking about myself -- but maybe this will help someone else -- just recently i have been told by several different beings whom i respect that i am a warrioress -- i did reflect that after i read the book 'How to Defend Yourself Against Alien Abductions' during the 3 wks of fighting off abductions every nite until i called on the Name/Person/Presence of Christ Jesus -- when i woke up to find 3 or 4 greys hovering over the foot of my bed snickering nastily amongst themselves, i did not go for the sending warm fuzzy love to them, one tactic in the book -- instead my instant reaction was to attack, & i snapped off one of their arms w/my mind/will -- they disappeared & did not come back

i'm thinking that anger is the flip side of fear, & way more empowering -- all abductees have the right to righteous anger -- i was VERY angry, at the Draco during that last abduction, & after his psy/sexual attack when i called on Jesus -- & when i yelled at the portal guys

i read in an Earth First journal one of their mottoes: 'Anger + Love = Action' --

Peace & Freedom, wynderer

zaina · 12-23-2009, 01:16 PM

yes i can agree with you ,calling on jesus has heled me more than once and the hairy little creature that was lying on me a few nights ago and doing something sexual i believe got booted when i call for jesus to help me ..
although i got angry and said to this creature get off me you --------
it seemed his strenght wasnt so powerful with my anger of what it was doing ..but i couldnt get him off on my own it was like stuck to me ..yack
love and light

halebox · 12-27-2009, 04:14 AM

Maybe it is more important for them that you to believe in the jesus myth than an abduction. Just a different angle. I dont know if jesus existed but really does it matter?

RedeZra · 08-17-2009, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firefly

"I WILL LOOK AFTER THE CHILDREN THAT ARE STILL MINE AND BELIEVE IN ME."

Not so easy to believe what we dont see

And what we see seems sinister to some

All is not well

What can we do
What can we do but to stay informed

And weed out the false from the fact from information overload

So many spinning lies So many run with it and make it stick
Who can navigate through this web of delusion

Who to trust

Not so easy when we dont see what we dont see
We can mean well and mess up

So it goes and all will follow its nature

As the sun in its orbit As the deer in the woods
As the creek in the mountain As the mind of man

I want to play in the fields of gold
And i wont let go of this straw

08-17-2009, 06:20 AM	#4
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ? Firefly, thanks for sharing! Complex topics are brought up here... I will share my take: Consider, our mind is like radio receiver and it can tune into many different stations. Depending on where our own vibration is at, based on our beliefs and emotions, we will tune into different stations. There are many stations between here and the spiritual realm. My discernment tells me to carefully consider scare tactics may come from impostors, fallen beings or false Gods that manage the people through fear. Fear is indeed a vibration that enables many dark forces to manipulate humanity and feed from them. Consider the infinite does not want any of it's children to fear. In fact, consider you literally create karma when you fear because you are lowering the vibration of your God given energy, which is Pure when you receive it, and misplacing it as fear, which is an energy of low vibrations and which will feed the illusions behind it. We will reap as we sew, and consider whatever energy you send out is your own responsibility. So when we fear, we are actually creating a karmic debt by miss qualifying pure energy that we have received as pure energy and lowering it in vibration and releasing it through fear. Behind all life is the divine energy of the infinite, which is love based, not fear based. There is no separation in reality, only illusions of separation. These illusions have taken on a life of their own, which explains some of the false God's that are fed by the energy of fear. Consider, as Jesus said, humanity can earn life eternal and permanence in the mind of the infinite by multiplying their talents and knowing the truth that will set you free. In order to do this you must be reborn, as Jesus often repeated. Consider, to be reborn means to overcome the illusions of the carnal mind, or human ego, and be reborn into the reality that all life is One. Your eye must be single in order to inherit the kingdom. All life is meant to be an expression of the infinite. Unfortunately, much of it has fallen under the illusion that separation is reality and this has caused an imbalance in much of life's expressions. Consider, there are many false gods, fallen angels and beings, entities, beast etc. a significant number of which are perfectly capable of giving messages to us if we enter their vibration. We will tune into their 'radio station'. This is not a slight on us in any way. It is indeed a divine talent to be able to tune the radio receiver, the brain, to stations other than 3d. It's a matter though, of putting in the work to purify our own consciousness so we will tune into the highest frequencies. The more we are in the vibration of fear, ego, or any other illusions, the more we're going to be open to tuning into the wrong station and receiving false messages. Consider the real 'God' does not require worship or human beliefs.Does the consciousness behind the entire virtually infinite universe require the worship from humans on a planet smaller than the size of a speck of dust when compared to the whole? Consider false God's and fallen beings do receive energy from humans when they worship it, when they give their power to a false God outside of them rather than connecting to the father within, the infinite within. Consider messages that say those who don't worship me or believe what I say will be punished, are not from the source, rather from a being that receives energy from human's own attention being placed on them. And consider, even a true message from a higher vibration will be colored by whatever beliefs and illusions the messenger holds. Consider, what the infinite does desire, is for us to demonstrate our love by loving and raising up all life, because life itself is an expression of the infinite. Consider the infinite also desires us to recognize that the Father is within us, rather than outside of us and to let the consciousness within be the doer. To love the infinite behind the illusion often involves challenging the illusion to help wake up the divine consciousness behind it. Sometimes love is tough love as Jesus demonstrated when he confronted the scribes and the pharisees, the religious fundamentalist of his day. He challenged their teachings of the angry God in the sky and their rule based religion. Consider he did so to help free the people from the bondage of fearing the angry false god in the sky and instead connecting to the loving father consciousness within themselves. Consider Jesus message is about shining our own God given light here in the matter realm so life can be raised up and remember it's inner divinity. The infinite multiplies our talents when we do so. Consider, it's not about what church we go to, what religion we were born into, what beliefs we have. Consider it is first and foremost about the purity of our heart and intentions. Consider it is the dark forces of this world that wish to make us feel powerless and give up our power to something outside of us. This is the illusion that must be overcome in order to follow in Jesus footsteps as he continually asked us to do. Many are called, few choose. To choose, you must choose to enter the kingdom of heaven that is already here at hand, inside of you, and you will do so when you know the the truth that will set you free, 'I and my father are One'. Of course, this involves grace, but it is about putting forth our best efforts, walking the path and watching the infinite multiply our efforts. Then the caterpillar will be reborn as the butterfly, you will do the works that Jesus did, only greater works than these you will do. The world will be raised up through the LOVE of the infinite, and as Paul said, we're here to be the body of God below and God is Love. My take Last edited by 14 Chakras; 08-17-2009 at 07:06 AM.

08-17-2009, 07:36 AM	#6
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ? "If one believes in an Almighty Creator then it is contrary to common sense to try to impose limits on Him " Good point. Let's not limit what the infinite can do through us! Let the 'father' within do the work, and in reality, there are no limitations.

08-18-2009, 02:59 AM	#8
firefly Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Byron Bay Australia Posts: 79	Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ? Thank You 14 Chakras and RedeZra for your replies, however I must explain that at the time of my daughters revelation she had turned away from any concept of the Creator interfering in his creation here on Earth. And started questioning her spiritual beliefs and considering the possibility that Jesus did not even exist! Being an IT Programmer she was steering towards a more scientific purpose for our existence ( to my disappointment). So it was to my great surprise when this incident happened. And yes, we must always practice discernment if possible. But how can we know if the information is coming from who we think it is. My daughter has developed doubts as to who it was that was speaking to her, even though she believes mankind has taken the wrong path in relation to our planet she had adopted an opposing view and spiritual belief to me. So I feel the message she was given was more for my eyes and not necessarily for hers. Love and friendship firefly

12-23-2009, 12:16 PM	#11
wynderer Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: FingerLakes, USA Posts: 89	Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ? Hi Housemouse2 -- that was an interesting post, on the use of the Name of Jesus as a symbol -- however, this was not so in my case -- not saying that someone using the Name as a symbol would not have success -- for myself, i've always felt that those who use symbols are using a somewhat corrupted form of spiritual power -- like, why use symbols/rituals when you can go directly to the Creator? & certainly the nwo is misusing the power of symbols on the collective & individual consciousness -- it's a kind of 3D/ 4D 'spirituality' only it's easy to go to/be directly w/the Creator when around the innocent & pure on our Earth -- i.e., Earth herself, the trees, animals, birds, etc -- but when in the scary world of human beings & our many uninvited visitors from space & other dimensions, help from others in higher dimensions is much appreciated & often needed my post that got knocked off was a full account of the abduction i woke up in & fought back, ending the abductions about 3 wks later by using the Name of Jesus -- that was in '98 or '99 -- & only the 2nd time in my life i'd done so synchronistically for me, just a few days ago i did so for the third time, so it is fresh in my mind -- long story -- basically where i am living right now, there is an energy portal that i think is also connected to the underground tunnel system -- this area filled w/salt caves/caverns, some natural, some from digging for the salt -- the portal not in the hands of the Good Guys, & i have been subject to a lot of harrassment on more than one dimensional level -- others have heard the crashings & bangings & footsteps, etc-- the 3D manifestations-- come to think of it, it was the nite of the solstice -- i just kind of reached the point where i'd had it up to here w/all the invasions of my space -- i gave the human living here, who aids & abets the portal guys, a good piece of my mind; then, as w/stopping the abductions, not planning to do this -- i found myself standing, facing the portal in the next room, & shouting in anger,' I mean you no harm, but I am under the protection & care of Jesus & His Angels, & LEAVE ME ALONE!' as i was shouting, i was aware of some very powerful Beings standing all around me, incl covering my back --the sell-out human here looked really scared it is my impression that many abductees -- those relative few who remember, tho more are as the quickening picks up pace -- i think many live in fear -- i am familiar w/the fear that comes from post-hypnotic suggestions helped by implants -- the fear of talking/writing/even thinking about the abductions -- & also i know that strange sleepiness that hits when one is trying to write or talk about this subject i have tried to adopt Edgar Cayce's personal prayer -- 'Others, Lord, others' -- & don't really like talking about myself -- but maybe this will help someone else -- just recently i have been told by several different beings whom i respect that i am a warrioress -- i did reflect that after i read the book 'How to Defend Yourself Against Alien Abductions' during the 3 wks of fighting off abductions every nite until i called on the Name/Person/Presence of Christ Jesus -- when i woke up to find 3 or 4 greys hovering over the foot of my bed snickering nastily amongst themselves, i did not go for the sending warm fuzzy love to them, one tactic in the book -- instead my instant reaction was to attack, & i snapped off one of their arms w/my mind/will -- they disappeared & did not come back i'm thinking that anger is the flip side of fear, & way more empowering -- all abductees have the right to righteous anger -- i was VERY angry, at the Draco during that last abduction, & after his psy/sexual attack when i called on Jesus -- & when i yelled at the portal guys i read in an Earth First journal one of their mottoes: 'Anger + Love = Action' -- Peace & Freedom, wynderer

12-23-2009, 01:16 PM	#12
zaina Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: uk Posts: 99	Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ? yes i can agree with you ,calling on jesus has heled me more than once and the hairy little creature that was lying on me a few nights ago and doing something sexual i believe got booted when i call for jesus to help me .. although i got angry and said to this creature get off me you -------- it seemed his strenght wasnt so powerful with my anger of what it was doing ..but i couldnt get him off on my own it was like stuck to me ..yack love and light

12-27-2009, 04:14 AM	#13
halebox Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 61	Re: Alien Abductions Stopped By the Name of Jesus Christ? Maybe it is more important for them that you to believe in the jesus myth than an abduction. Just a different angle. I dont know if jesus existed but really does it matter?