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Old 10-03-2009, 08:15 PM   #1
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Hi Steven!

Your thread is mighty helpful and applicable to a lot of us who are looking for our Spirit, our Higher Selves. Thank you for a most informative thread.

By the way, I was just wondering by what form do you normally get your answers from Spirit? A voice in your mind, pictures passing through your mind?

I've been praying to my Spirit for the past month or so, in my wakeful moments, and I seem to be having problems hearing that voice again. Don't know why; not sure if it was the change of domicile. Or is it just me?

Have you experienced that before?

Any suggestions?

Namaste.

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Old 10-03-2009, 08:44 PM   #2
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Here is an audio segment from a great book called Wisdom of the Mystic Masters, by Joseph J. Weed, author and out spoken Rosicrucian.

This clip talks about the law that energy follows your attention, and the importance of focusing your attention on things of a high vibratory rate. For those interested in learning more I would highly recommend picking the book up and giving it a read through.
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Old 10-03-2009, 10:38 PM   #3
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Here is an audio segment from a great book called Wisdom of the Mystic Masters, by Joseph J. Weed, author and out spoken Rosicrucian.

This clip talks about the law that energy follows your attention, and the importance of focusing your attention on things of a high vibratory rate. For those interested in learning more I would highly recommend picking the book up and giving it a read through.
YouTube - Esoteric Wisdom: Exercise to Open your Heart Center/Chakra
Thank you so much Phtha. I will gladly listen to this soon and come back to you for my appreciation.

Edit: I have listened to the presentation. I agree with the information, but I feel like being brainwashed while watching it. The colorful text and the electronic voice... I would prefere reading the book.

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The Ascension:


In my opinion, the source of many themes and ideas about ascension comes from the Mayan people. Now, I have read and listened to many altered explanations on the Mayan calendar. I would like to share my own perspective about it.

There are many Mayan calendars. The one I will talk about is not often mentioned, but certainly very significant for our time.

Carl Johan Calleman is the man who has really drawn my attention to the Mayans some years ago. I came back to him last year and saw some new development on his website. He is at the source of many theories and ideas about the Mayans calendar.

We often see "2012" thrown here and there, but we got to take a good look at its origin before making assumption about "End of the world" theories and all the "calamities" that follow these ideas. Because when you see the Mayan calendar at a closer look, and really dig into the meaning behind their written culture, you discover a way to look at the evolution of the Human race that really encompass our history and give a good hint at what is coming in a near future.


The Pyramid of the Evolution of the Human Consciousness








I will not enter in details. I will rather give all the links below for all to read more in depth about the Pyramid of Evolution.

What it says, is that we are at the end of a 16.4 billions years evolution of Consciousness. Every single step is a shift in Consciousness, an evolution. We are currently at the 8th step and will enter the last step in 2011. The end of this long lasting evolution is 21/12/2012. Every step of evolution last for a shorter time than its precedent. This is the acceleration we feel today.

At the end of this Evolution of Consciousness, a New Human will be. It does not mean we will see people running around doing miracles and flying in the air at the end of 2012. It is not sharply cut with a knife, one day your numb the other day your omniscient. It will be progressive, but also exponential.

It will be a Humanity with an awareness of its own power of creation. Aware that consciousness itself creates realities. Aware that emotions and thoughts are indeed powerful gifts to creates realities and experiences. Aware of the Universal Laws by which all is created and manifested. Aware of our real history, aware of the greater community in our galaxy, aware that our near future is in the stars. Aware that a small group of controllers have manipulated us during centuries. And Aware we are a family who must unite under larger Principles of Life in order to assure a solid base for our children to evolve.

This is what the Mayans calendar are all about. This is no prophecy, this is simply understanding how evolution works. In this, I see no polar shift, no devastation, no calamity, no war, no slavery... These ideas are totally opposed to what the Pyramid of Evolution is showing us. No wonder from whom they are originated... And for what purpose...

Be aware on what you are maintaining your focus...

Here are the links:

Calleman official website: http://www.calleman.com/

His Mayan calendar portal: http://www.maya-portal.net/welcome

Here is his blog: http://www.maya-portal.net/blog/8

Here is a very interesting blog Mr. Calleman have made not so long ago about some people trying to seed the mayan 2012 calendar with calamities:


''The Prophets Bonanza – The Approach to the Mayan End Date

It seems that at this particular time in the sixth DAY of the Galactic Underworld the discussion intensifies regarding the meaning of the Mayan calendar end date and of course its exact timing. Some people are making claims of being Maya-based prophets or even speaking on behalf of the Mayan people and its council of elders. I take it that for many who like myself have not have had the privilege of studying the Mayan calendar in depth the hearing and reading of this may be very bewildering as they shop around for the truth about “2012”. All kinds of different suggestions are made regarding the time ahead. The Annunaki are coming, there will be a geomagnetic pole shift, a galactic alignment will change everything, a shift in consciousness and volcanic eruptions. Some say that we are going into a special section of the galaxy where everything is speeding up and others that solar flares will intensify. And many of these purported events will take place on December 21, 2012 pretty much out of the blue. It is thus a time of bonanza for all kinds of prophets that not rarely misrepresent who they are and their relationships to the contemporary Maya.

For me, as a professional and accomplished scientist working to elucidate the higher meaning of the Mayan calendar, most of the above suggestions are mildly put irrelevant and are completely outside of any logical context of understanding. The only Mayan inscription about the end date talks of the descent of Nine cosmic energies and not about solar flares pole shifts. Many of these geological or astronomical ideas are simply invented by a bandwagon of purported 2012 experts, who simply have to come up with something special in order to carve out a niche for themselves and it is like they are not really taking our current situation seriously. They will sometimes refer to scientists that supposedly support their claims, maybe in Russian or Norwegian journals that neither they nor their fans have read or can read. When you hear a New Age prophet say that there are scientists backing their claims you can be almost certain that these scientists are saying exactly the opposite to what is claimed. In what they are the model of nine underworlds and thirteen heavens different from this plethora of ideas. I think in two ways.
First of all, being a professional scientist I have a code of honor preventing me from just making things up. True, not every scientist can be trusted, but it is not so common that professional scientists want to dishonor their heritage. Secondly, it is really irrelevant who developed the model of nine underworlds and thirteen heavens, since everything in this model is empirically based. To accept this model you only need to know that the facts and logic are right. As long as people know some basic historic or biologic facts, or be willing to check their accuracy out, they may understand how the Mayan calendar works.

So when I see this whole range of mildly speaking irrelevant ideas serving to confuse people and divert them from preparing for the birth of a new world I of course have to decide what differences between the scientific model and the various purported events of a physical nature on December 21, 2012 are truly important and which ones are not. Is it for instance important to disprove the idea that the Annunaki is coming? Is it important to emphasize that there is no indication that a geomagnetic pole shift is coming in the next few years? Is it important to point out that no Mayan text talks about a galactic alignment? Is it important to inform people as to the real background to the Dreamspell calendar? Is it not possible to let people believe in whatever they like regardless of if this an obvious hoax or not? Can I not just say that ”something” will happen in a ”window” of time between now and 2015?

The reason I am so emphatic that the end of the Mayan energies is on October 28, 2011 is that if people think it is December 21, 2012 they will simply miss out on co-creating the process. And the choice to make regarding this co-creation is something that several indigenous traditions say people have to do, and obviously have to make in time. I also am adamant that what will happen is in the evolution of consciousness the reason being that it will be very disempowering for people if they are to look for some kind of astronomical and geological event, when in actuality what is happening is with the people themselves.
So this is my rule of thumb: If some 2012 idea leads people away from consciously co-creating the new world in time, then I think it is important to clarify the fallacies in that idea.
But I would like to open this up to discussion. Provided that you agree with me that we will now be given the opportunity to be co-creators in the birth of a new world what is it really important to stand for and what can be ignored in the current Prophets Bonanza? What are your rules of thumb?

Seattle, August 30 (4 Chuen)
Carl Johan Calleman'' end of the quote.

So according to Mr. Calleman, the real important date here is: 28 October 2011, this will be the date of co-creating a new world, not 21/12/2012. At that time, it will be too late...

Now, you see how important it becomes to imagine a good future between 28/10/2011 and 21/12/2012. If the seeds of calamity are strong enough in the people's mind between these date of ultimate co-creation, then at 21/12/2012 and afterward, we might get these calamities indeed...

And finally, here is more in depth details about the Pyramid of consciousness: http://www.calleman.com/content/pyra...sciousness.htm

Namaste, Steven

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Old 12-24-2009, 12:31 AM   #5
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Steven i must say your post is inspirational!! And i've been searching very lately for answers to questions to do with the tao and reading alot of wayne dyer's books on manifesting and i feel im gaining momentum and getting clarity on concepts and ideas linking tao in with serpent wisdom and the divine feminine. Im currently going through your wisdom you are sharing and its no end of help to me,i can explain enough how i've needed this.
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:38 PM   #6
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love the thread....many thanks for it Steven

there are no coincidences
much love and blessings, peace always, mikey
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Old 12-27-2009, 05:05 PM   #7
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My pleasure Mikey.


Sin (genetic defect) from Alex Collier


Sin is still part of a tremendous amount of people's belief. It is progressively diminishing, but still influence our global consciousness in a downward way. It creates an inertia opposed to the natural uplifting awareness of who we are.

Worse is the idea that we were born with a sinner stain... It induces the idea that we are deeply impure, so we need to get clean (guess who provides the soap?)

I never believed it, even when I was a young all opened boy learning from the church... I was very happy to hear Alex Collier saying that the word sin is pre-summerian and means literally "genetic defect". Giving a whole new perspective to the concept of being a sinner, or born with a sin...

We are soul, extension of Creation itself, born into a genetically modified human body. We do NOT need to be saved. Our soul is not sinner. Our body need to be fixed. So we can use it at 100%!

If it is true, and it makes much more sens than the official dogmatic belief, it means we are equal to any given species of our Universe, EQUAL. Enough of this victim consciousness, it already have caused much damage...

We are no sinner, we do not need to be clean or saved. We are not impure, we are extension of Creation itself and promise to the highest hopes. When the time to get in contact with our galactic neighborhood comes, we stand proud and humble bowing with respect to our brothers and sisters, shining the light of freedom and responsibility in our look.

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Old 01-03-2010, 12:19 AM   #8
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Door of Opportunity


It was mentioned in the "Handbooks" that we are entering a "door of opportunity" to create a "New Paradigm" on Earth. I have read many times about this "door of opportunity", Hidden Hand famous thread on ATS being among the ones I consider, even if I am not in accord with everything Hidden Hand has written.

Among all the information about it, the mayan pyramid of consciousness evolution is the one I consider of prime importance to further understand this concept. Carl Johan Calleman is the researcher I refer to when I get information on the pyramid of consciousness: http://www.calleman.com/

According to the interpretation here; quotes from Calleman's blog:"The reason I am so emphatic that the end of the Mayan energies is on October 28, 2011 is that if people think it is December 21, 2012 they will simply miss out on co-creating the process." end of the quote.

We are currently at the penultimate stage of evolution. We will enter the last step on the 11th February 2011. The end of that period of evolution that has started 16 billions years ago will end on 28th October 2011, not 21-12-2012. That is quite a journey, an evolution that last, 16 billions of our years...

What Calleman further says is that last step of evolution of human consciousness is about cosmic awareness. The awareness of being co-creator. I see a global understanding of who we are, the Universe we live in, how the Universal Laws of consciousness shapes our reality according to our own consciousness as individual, and as specie. A global progressive awakening by humanity.

This moment, this "door of opportunity" will close on 28th October 2011 according to the mayan pyramid of consciousness. After that date, the result will be shaped according to our state of consciousness. This is why it is very important to shift from the old "victim consciousness" behavior and enter with trust into a new type of consciousness based on "personal responsibility".

The New Paradigm will not come sent by external force upon us, it will be shaped from ourselves to ourselves. There is much work to do at the consciousness level.

Namaste, Steven

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Sin is still part of a tremendous amount of people's belief. It is progressively diminishing, but still influence our global consciousness in a downward way. It creates an inertia opposed to the natural uplifting awareness of who we are.


We are no sinner, we do not need to be clean or saved. We are not impure, we are extension of Creation itself and promise to the highest hopes. When the time to get in contact with our galactic neighborhood comes, we stand proud and humble bowing with respect to our brothers and sisters, shining the light of freedom and responsibility in our look.

sin is just another word for doing wrong

that is hardly a genetic defect

but a bad choice

---

what does it mean to be saved

saved from danger drugs etc

ultimately it means saved from reincarnation

saved from body consciousness


for you are right about the Soul

and It does not want a physical body


but as long as we sin

and as long as we want wish this and that

we will come back again and again


til our life on Earth is a sinless Soulful sojourn
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Hello RedeZra. My mother tongue is not english, but french, so here is what I find interesting about what Alex Collier said on the origin of the word sin.

The origin of the word sin in english is known. But the etymology in latin which is "peccatum", the verb "peccare" according to Bénaben is unknown, but might come from the Hebraic "hatta’t" which mean; "to miss the shot".

Between "peccare" and "hatta't" there is a big "might" and that is where I find it most interesting when Alex Collier mentions the Andromedans told him that the origin of this word comes from the summerians and means "genetic alternation". Adding to this that according to the summerian tablets, interpreted by Sitchin, genetic manipulation have been made on human people. Making perfect sens to explain this strange religious concept of being "born with the taint of the sin".

Now, I agree that sin means committing a mistake and it should just stay into this frontier. On the other hand, I totally disagree with the false concept of being "born with the taint of the sin", seeding a false belief of a deeply rooted tendencies to evilness and selfishness. That is the reason I find Collier's explanation most interesting. What corrupt the human is not is birth, but his choices.

I know you do not beleive in Alex Collier contact with Andromedans. I respect your point of view, but do not share it at all. We do not share the same belief system, so we will hardly come up with a common point-of-view. On the other hand, I totally respect your point of view and will never pretend you are right or wrong about a belief. It is your journey and maybe one day we will come up with a common ground. Until then, have a nice journey on Earth dear.

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Alex Collier mentions the Andromedans told him that the origin of this word comes from the summerians and means "genetic alternation". Adding to this that according to the summerian tablets, interpreted by Sitchin, genetic manipulation have been made on human people. Making perfect sens to explain this strange religious concept of being "born with the taint of the sin".
Hi Steven

yes you are right

I do not believe in the tales of Collier nor the works of Sitchin


I believe in the Voice of God and the works of Spirit


I believe we will be born til we reach Perfection

and that is the meaning of the taint of sin

Just short of Perfection
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Hi Steven

yes you are right

I do not believe in the tales of Collier nor the works of Sitchin


I believe in the Voice of God and the works of Spirit


I believe we will be born til we reach Perfection

and that is the meaning of the taint of sin

Just short of Perfection
And I beleive Creation talks through Collier or Sitchin works to unveil the lie spread in the official religious litterature...

Taint of sin is just another lie to make us stuck into a victim consciousness, still efficient today...

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And I beleive Creation talks through Collier or Sitchin works to unveil the lie spread in the official religious litterature...

Creation is not without the Creator


when energy follows focus as you say

would it not be better to focus on the Creator

than say the Andromedans


perhaps you want to meet the Andromedans

and not so much the Creator


for if there is a Creator

it would mean that we the people

are governed by God


as you say victims under His sovereign Authority

or as I would say


Souls of His Supreme Spirit

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Creation is not without the Creator


when energy follows focus as you say

would it not be better to focus on the Creator

than say the Andromedans


perhaps you want to meet the Andromedans

and not so much the Creator


for if there is a Creator

it would mean that we the people

are governed by God


as you say victims under His sovereign Authority

or as I would say



Souls of His Supreme Spirit
Creation is Creator... God is a name I avoid because it is full of false concepts.

Andromedans are here to unveil all these old paradigm false beleive you are defending, and they come up under Creation's impulse...

I do not discredits Creation's Laws and authority, but challenge the old false belief system that shroud the truth about us and the Universe we live in...

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Creation is Creator... God is a name I avoid because it is full of false concepts.

Andromedans are here to unveil all these old paradigm false beleive you are defending, and they come up under Creation's impulse...

I don't have all the answers

and Im not defending any beliefs

Im just questioning your certainty


I am sceptic about Collier Sitchin and the Andromedans

for it could all be pure fiction and fantasy with a motive


an orchestrated psyops operation for future false flag

to turn our culture's focus from Christ and His teachings


to replace Scripture with speculations as

there is no Savior and no Grace

you are all on your own


if not for our brothers and sisters the Andromedans

whom we will never meet by the way

but they will be watching and guiding us

to Nowhere




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You remember this popular idea in the gospel; ''Love your enemy''... Well, I really think it was not the genuine idea. I believe it was rather like: ''Choose well where you send your love''
lol what are you up to here if not co-corruption of the Bible

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I don't have all the answers

and Im not defending any beliefs

Im just questioning your certainty


I am sceptic about Collier Sitchin and the Andromedans

for it could all be pure fiction and fantasy with a motive


an orchestrated psyops operation for future false flag

to turn our culture's focus from Christ and His teachings


to replace Scripture with speculations as

there is no Savior and no Grace

you are all on your own


if not for our brothers and sisters the Andromedans

whom we will never meet by the way

but they will be watching and guiding us


to Nowhere
But you do defend these beleifs, not Creation.

Of course you can question what appears as my certainty, you are welcome to do so. I am also doing the same thing . There is nothing into Sitchin and Collier that has the purpose to turn our culture from Christ and his teaching.

Christ's teaching is not unified on Earth. It does not represent human beleif in overall. Don't get me wrong, I don't under value Christ's teaching, but you seem to think Christianity is the world beleif, which is not the case.

And the andromedans are not here to replace the 'scripture'. They are here to clarify and inform. Maybe, Sitchin and Collier and Summers and the whole lot of UFO contactee and researchers are under a psyops to mislead us into false beleives... It is a maybe I do not endorse.

My maybe is; the 'scripture' you defend and the beleif that comes with it were once true and authentical. Up to a point that it really bothers the ones 'in charge', so not able to destroy it, they simply infiltrated it, corrupted it, to a point where it is no more challenging their influence and control over the masses. But rather, help them to maintain us into a beleif system that perpetrate a victim consciousness.

Here is the real fantasy... That is what I question, it is all over, it is official, it has caused many wars and death. This is not what Creation's defend and endorse. You judge a tree by its fruits, remember...

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Don't get me wrong, I don't under value Christ's teaching, but you seem to think Christianity is the world beleif, which is not the case.

My maybe is; the 'scripture' you defend and the beleif that comes with it were once true and authentical. Up to a point that it really bothers the ones 'in charge', so not able to destroy it, they simply infiltrated it, corrupted it, to a point where it is no more challenging their influence and control over the masses. But rather, help them to maintain us into a beleif system that perpetrate a victim consciousness.

Here is the real fantasy... That is what I question, it is all over, it is official, it has caused many wars and death. This is not what Creation's defend and endorse. You judge a tree by its fruits, remember...

lol I know Christianity is part and parcel of our culture

and not the only belief in the world


you wont hear me saying

the Muslims are mistaken or the Buddha got it wrong


Religions are cups dipping into the Ocean of Divinity

it's just a taste of truth


Religions and guns do not cause war and death

that is us missing the shot though the bullet might hit


victims blame a concept or a gun
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...Religions and guns do not cause war and death..
Sure, but who creates Religions and guns and use them to death? Aren't they the same as the ones who corrupted the "scriptures"?

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Sure, but who creates Religions and guns and use them to death? Aren't they the same as the ones who corrupted the "scriptures"?

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Tools are dead. Books are dead. What makes them alive are we. You can use a knife to cut a piece of bread for your child or you can slice someone`s throat.
It`s up to you. Knife will not be judged tomorrow in the courtroom ,you will.

That is same with scriptures and all other things . People used it wrongly. People misused it to bring tyranny and slavery against other people.
One of the most powerful tools is using a thing (whose assumed usage is actually for good) - for evil. That way you hide your true intention in the beginning. When you do that ,people fall your prey. Then when they are taken by surprise and still confused ,you show your real face ...then is usually too late for people because then they are enslaved and bribed. Very few fight over this after they were lured in.

But other thing is interesting ,namely WHO sparks the thought in people`s heads to start thinking about cloaking & enslaving & ruling others?
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...People used it wrongly. People misused it to bring tyranny and slavery against other people...
It makes me think of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_GDm...eature=related

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Sure, but who creates Religions and guns and use them to death? Aren't they the same as the ones who corrupted the "scriptures"?

I cannot find corruptions

in Jesus words about ethics

and His critique of the scribes


perhaps the answer to your question

is that the hypocrites who crucified Him

share the same self serving values as TPTB

today as then


if TPTB at a time did corrupt the Bible

then why not change the Glory and Gospel of Jesus

so we would not question the actions of TPTB

for these two are obviously at a discord with each other


Religions are reminiscences of a Divine Intervention

with a specific culture at a point in time

and serve as a preservative of this Incident for the posterity


guns are molded from the elements of Creation

and can be used for protection or destruction

the one holding the gun is responsible for it's use

soldier cop criminal citizen


since the Universe is not square but a sphere

there is some merit in the soldiers use of guns to protect the country

but hardly 5000 miles away from home


each of us is automatically responsible for our actions

whether we like it take it or not

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You remember this popular idea in the gospel; ''Love your enemy''... Well, I really think it was not the genuine idea. I believe it was rather like: ''Choose well where you send your love''
lol what are you up to here if not co-corruption of the Bible

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Old 02-04-2010, 09:35 PM   #22
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...if TPTB at a time did corrupt the Bible
then why not change the Glory and Gospel of Jesus
so we would not question the actions of TPTB
for these two are obviously at a discord with each other...
...Religions are reminiscences of a Divine Intervention
with a specific culture at a point in time
and serve as a preservative of this Incident for the posterity
guns are molded from the elements of Creation
and can be used for protection or destruction
the one holding the gun is responsible for it's use
soldier cop criminal citizen...

...lol what are you up to here if not co-corruption of the Bible
Hello Redezra. The Gospel has already been changed, and you do not even need to dig into centuries of alterations. Just tell me which bible do you read. Mine is the TOB and Mary stays virgin in this version, what is yours?

Guns (or weapons) are lifeless, but the tendencies in the weapon market is making them every time more powerful and much smaller (Bush were proud to call one of them the 'mother of all bombs'). Following this tendency, one day a plane the size of your hand, traveling at mach 5, will hold the energy to blow up a whole city like Sao Paolo. Then, it will not matter who has it, the weapon becomes the threat... We are already there...

I am glad to 'co-corrupt' the bible if it is the way you see it. I have all wisdom inside available to see by myself what contradiction have been added to Jesus words... I know it doesn't sound humble, I am being honest.

I do not exclusively rely on whatever book, including the bible. I prefer to draw from my own inner well of wisdom...

You know, the prophets of the bible are just like the whistleblowers today. Some challenges the official lies that maintain a small group in control, some says the truth and some lies, some says lies and some truth. Just like in the bible...

Now tell me Redezra, you do not beleive Sitchin nor Collier, which whistleblower do you trust?

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About the different version of bibles, from king james to vaticanus. Here is a study about the subject. I am not endorsing any religion in particular. The text obviously comes from a muslim source, but regardless of the source, the study brings many evidences that any observer would see.

Some quotes: "The gospel truth is that we have no manuscript from the first century and those we do have from second century are very fragmentary and with a lot of variances than later manuscripts."

"The truth is that the differences in manuscripts are sometimes so gigantic and so successful tools on putting doubt into different Christian doctrines, that beyond any vagueness they testify to us about the corruption of the scriptures."

"One have to bear in mind that many manuscripts found in Dead Sea Scrolls are of the same family with Masoretic text, hence the Christian claim that Masoretic text is a medieval redaction done by the Jews to undermine Christian prophecies and doctrines contained within the Old Testament is a mere childish accusation. Therefore differences between Masoretic Text Manuscripts and Septuaginta Manuscripts are also without any doubt proof of the corruption of bible text as both families of manuscripts are at least of the same age."

The rest here:

http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/wp-co...d/they_say.pdf

After this reading, which version is "the true word of God"? At least, inner wisdom and Creation's presence in nature are not corruptible... Put the bible aside for a moment and take a look at nature, Creation speaks in it...

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The books and "stories" banned from the Bible.

A documentary on the subject: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3D28Ys-dp4

Some books and stories were classified, some chosen, some left out and some banned. Who made the choices and why...

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It makes me think of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_GDm...eature=related

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He Steven...I enjoyed the video...Summers speaks with wisdom...

Perhaps you should make a thread of the Declaration...

http://www.humansovereignty.org/

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