Attributes of the Soul Level of Consciousness

[Carmen]

Fourth level consciousness, is open and truthful. It does not worry about revealing truths about itself because it does not seek the approval of others. Fourth level entities have spent a long time digging into their own subconscious realm to find attitudes and 'stuff' that have limited them. They are unafraid of the dark because they have dug it out from within them and brought it to understanding and wisdom. They continue to do this for as long as it takes to be free of it.

What others think of us is really nothing to do with us! What we think of ourselves is what matters. Approval is an inside job. If we are constantly seeking for outside approval we are never really happy. We find ourselves living for everyone else and not for ourselves!

The funny thing is that when we do start living for ourselves and are own Inner Approval, then we do seem to be approved by those outside of us. We then allow others around us to do the same. What we give/allow ourselves, we automaticaly extend to friends and family around us. This is freedom of the spirit and is the gift we give to ourselves and others. Its a delightful prerequisite of spiritual growth and evolution.

Love

Carmen

[Gnosis5]

Hello Carmen,

Also to contribute to that thought, in the Michael Teachings it is understood that "Old Souls" do not always have the same sticky connection to family members.

About past lives, it seems the second half of my life is one of my better career moves was making a decision to uncover more truths about myself and about this planet of people and that of course takes me into many many past lives that still needed to be truthfully reviewed and thus resolved.

I have worked out a good relationship with one clearing practitioner and together we have walked me backwards until there weren't even any suns or planets yet formed, before the "square" was invented even. Yes, it appears that circles came before squares, at least in my own part of the universe.

The decisions I made when I decided to make a distinction between unindividuated potential and actual energy producing potential brought me to here today. I am clearing all the decisions that I decided to place on automatic -- clearing the automatic function to be more exact.

The whole schema comes apart in addressing past life cycles this way and one has the potential to once again be that simple (but wiser) Pure Potential.

I shouldn't speak as if this is the way for everyone because the process I use is purely my own subjective exploration and only through perhaps one facet.

The cool part is that my hyperhistory starts before etheric bodies, before multiple dimensions (dementias) and densities and evil beings and complexity of games and social structures, bodies, all of that gets cleared away the further back I go.

The cool part is that I actually see the truth of my own participation in creating these structures and games. You know what the neatest thing is? As soon as I can see and know and own up to my part or participation in creating or continuing these games systems that is when they lose their hold on me.

I am once again free to paint a new picture with full freedom of expression.

That is of course an ideal scene because I am still doing my clearing work and I know I have not yet practically attained to full freedom of expression.

Thanks for listening and "duplicating".

love ya,
gnosis

[Carmen]

Indeed Gnosis, it is a rich tapestry we have woven and continue to weave.

[Gnosis5]

I take it that is more of a list than a harmonic or gradient scale.

Originally Posted by voltron

This reminded me of the

30 QUALITIES OF CONSCIOUSNESS

ALL POSSIBILITIES

OMNISCIENCE

FREEDOM

UNMANIFEST

SIMPLICITY

OMNIPOTENCE

DISCRIMINATING

FULLY AWAKE WITHIN ITSELF

BOUNTIFUL

INFINITE SILENCE

INFINITE DYNAMISM

PURE KNOWLEDGE

INFINITE ORGANIZING POWER

EVOLUTIONARY

PERFECT ORDERLINESS

SELF-SUFFICIENCY

PURIFYING

INFINITE CREATIVITY

INTEGRATING

HARMONIZING

PERFECT BALANCE

BLISS

SELF-REFERRAL

UNBOUNDEDNESS

NOURISHING

IMMORTALITY

INFINITE CORRELATION

INVINCIBILITY

[Gnosis5]

I am calling this thread "Carmen's Darshan". Someday I will decide to be a simple ascended loving being and have my own Darshan Thread :-)

[Carmen]

Gnosis, excuse my ignorance, but what's a Darshan? Not one of those little sausage dogs from Germany?

Love

Carmen

[Gnosis5]

Carmen, when you see this you will see how special I think you are in keeping this thread. This being has been known to hug 8000 people in one day -- where there is love there is no effort.




I received my "lucky hug" from her too and her greeting was like a greeting of a parent for a long lost daughter. That was at the beginning of a path to my own awakening. My work is mostly cool science and her touch of love balances me.

When the implanters are breathing down my neck I get into her space and I am her.

love,
gnosis

[Carmen]

Thankyou Gnosis, Im hardly in that lady's league, but I am honoured that you think of this thread as a place of Love. I like to think of it that way too. Everyone needs hugs, loving touch and when we can hug everyone the same as at Amma's Darshan, no wasted energy is going into who is huggable and who is not!!

Love

Carmen

Ps And thanks for showing me what a Darshan is.

[Carmen]

A very useful, wonderful attribute of the soul level of consciousness is that we protected from outside negative influences by the spinning bands that surround us. In Christian traditions it is called 'Putting on the Amour of Christ'. Negative thoughts and influences bounce off the high spiritual consciousness and back to the sender!

Our responsiblilty is to guard against our own negative thoughts and attitudes. We can be brought down by our own negative critical thoughts if we are not watchful. Our habits are difficult to overcome if we are not staying consciously aware at all times. Its after we have trained ourselves to stay in the 'Now' moment, to be consciously 'aware' that we can discipline our run-away thoughts to obey our directions (our soul's directions) The calabre of our thoughts can then be upgraded to God-like quality.

This is where meditation or some sort of focus exercises are effective. Something that brings our minds to 'stillness'.

Love

Carmen

[Gnosis5]

Hello Carmen,


Yes I see the bridge between Christianity and other practices.

When I was younger I was a sincere and idealistic Christian and I studied and applied the actual processes contained within the Christian texts, namely fasting, prayer/intending/commanding, meditation, and high praise. Many spiritual experiences as a result.

One day I was not feeling myself for some reason and decided to take a break and praise Jesus for everything I could think of. I reached an ecstatic emotional level and looked up and to my left and saw what in the Bible is described as a "cloud of mosquitos" and they were mouthing very evil things but I also noticed a shield around me and they were quite upset that they could not penetrate this shield.

All this revelation as a teaching to show me the value of high praise, and I don't think anymore that it has to be directed solely to Jesus: I think Jesus, like Maittreya, can be anyone he wants to be.

Now if I had only practiced meditation in my over busy lifestyle it wouldn't have taken me another 25 years to finally get back into a spiritual discipline and routine that, at the ripe age of 56, has brought me to a level of what was anciently called "Nirvana".

The early Christians, I suspect, also had a similar spiritual state, but it got lost to most today, just like most Buddhists have lost the effective path to their Nirvana, but choose to dogmatically fixate on the man Buddha.

Better than nothing I guess :-)

love,
Gnosis

Originally Posted by Carmen

A very useful, wonderful attribute of the soul level of consciousness is that we protected from outside negative influences by the spinning bands that surround us. In Christian traditions it is called 'Putting on the Amour of Christ'. Negative thoughts and influences bounce off the high spiritual consciousness and back to the sender!

Our responsiblilty is to guard against our own negative thoughts and attitudes. We can be brought down by our own negative critical thoughts if we are not watchful. Our habits are difficult to overcome if we are not staying consciously aware at all times. Its after we have trained ourselves to stay in the 'Now' moment, to be consciously 'aware' that we can discipline our run-away thoughts to obey our directions (our soul's directions) The calabre of our thoughts can then be upgraded to God-like quality.

This is where meditation or some sort of focus exercises are effective. Something that brings our minds to 'stillness'.

Love

Carmen

[Gnosis5]

Amma is quite a being, I'll admit. When I approached her at her Darshan it was with the intention to give as much or more than I received, but I could not match her in her spirital presence and her giving back to me.

A few days ago, after practicing on a few other people first, I decided to go and take a closer look at her.

Even a being like herself is still carrying around some subconscious traumatic incidents. I looked long enough to see that she is still hung up in something in her timeless past that appears to be a huge celestial explosion, at least from her viewpoint. Thus the hugging is a bit of an attempt to resolve an ancient traumatic incident, but she could be doing a lot worse than what she is doing.

Even Amma needs healing, but I would never fault her work. If I ever did decide to help relieve her of her trauma it would be like a mouse removing a thorn from a lion's paw.

love,
gnosis

Originally Posted by Carmen

Thankyou Gnosis, Im hardly in that lady's league, but I am honoured that you think of this thread as a place of Love. I like to think of it that way too. Everyone needs hugs, loving touch and when we can hug everyone the same as at Amma's Darshan, no wasted energy is going into who is huggable and who is not!!

Love

Carmen

Ps And thanks for showing me what a Darshan is.

[Tango]

Carmen,

Do you feel a Click inside you head... When you go in...?

Our responsibility is to guard against our own negative thoughts and attitudes. And,to protect our spiritual consciousness from being used
by Negative forces. We are bound protect the life force at all costs.

Once again do you feel the Click.? Do you know what I'm talking about.

Trooly,


Tango

Originally Posted by Carmen

A very useful, wonderful attribute of the soul level of consciousness is that we protected from outside negative influences by the spinning bands that surround us. In Christian traditions it is called 'Putting on the Amour of Christ'. Negative thoughts and influences bounce off the high spiritual consciousness and back to the sender!

Our responsiblilty is to guard against our own negative thoughts and attitudes. We can be brought down by our own negative critical thoughts if we are not watchful. Our habits are difficult to overcome if we are not staying consciously aware at all times. Its after we have trained ourselves to stay in the 'Now' moment, to be consciously 'aware' that we can discipline our run-away thoughts to obey our directions (our soul's directions) The calabre of our thoughts can then be upgraded to God-like quality.

This is where meditation or some sort of focus exercises are effective. Something that brings our minds to 'stillness'.

Love

Carmen

[Carmen]

Tango, Im having problems with my internet! Keep getting cut off. I read your post late last night but was too tired to post back then. Also I wished to think about what you had posted.

I do not feel a click. I do experience and intense energy/pressure in my head, sort of behind the bridge of my nose. This happens when I pause or focus. That seems to be the point of contact. The spinning of the bands I do in my mind. I visualize this and feel it to a certain degree. When I think about it the energy connects between heart and head, sort of spills over. So, that is what I experience. Tell me about the click you experience.

Cheers

Carmen

[Tango]

The internet keeps going down... I was gone today and when I came back
both computers were disconnected from the net... I've been cut off

before... It's the same.

Understood you feel pressure in the head...

You use bands... I was given a crystal over 40+ years ago for focus...

When I'm in [or as I'm going in] I feel/hear a Click... Know what maybe I don't
hear it... I don't know... It's a Click; and I know I'm IN.

Or, when someone lie's... There's That Click... A Negative one... Click...
Someone's tries to get close, to draw energy from me... Click... I move away.
If a Cell Phone is close by... Click...

Trooly,


Tango

Originally Posted by Carmen

Tango, Im having problems with my internet! Keep getting cut off. I read your post late last night but was too tired to post back then. Also I wished to think about what you had posted.

I do not feel a click. I do experience and intense energy/pressure in my head, sort of behind the bridge of my nose. This happens when I pause or focus. That seems to be the point of contact. The spinning of the bands I do in my mind. I visualize this and feel it to a certain degree. When I think about it the energy connects between heart and head, sort of spills over. So, that is what I experience. Tell me about the click you experience.

Cheers

Carmen

[Carmen]

When we focus on the life-force within us and connect with soul, the energy field around us increases in power and intensity. The powerful energies of Unconditional Love, Joy, Gratitude Compassion grow and increase our energy field. It becomes stronger and stronger. With that knowledge and application negative thoughts and emotions directed at us are as nothing. They bounce off us, back to the sender. In fact, we dont even notice. We cease to have anything in us that they could hook on to. The higher consciousness beings change the environment around them. They affect everything with their radiating field of Love.

Love

Carmen

[Carmen]

The point to all this gaining of knowledge, of spiritual exploration, is that it has to make a difference in our lives. If it doesnt, if its just philosophy to pull down off the shelves of our intellect to impress our friends with every now and then, its not worth anything. We are wasting our time!

It has to bring change, better circumstances, help when we need it, understanding, health, better relationships. In fact, a complete renovation of the old self! It has to be measurable in our lives, of practical help. On the other side of the complexity, the confusion of all this 3D mess, is a wonderful simplicity, a stillness, an utter peace in which we see things clearly. We can look back at all the crazyness and actually feel grateful because it was the shoehorn, the catalyst, to get us to MOVE, to prise us out of our laziness and lethargy.

Love

Carmen

[Carmen]

Hi Gnosis,

I have learned from all the spiritual learnings and systems I have been involved in. They all have wonderful truths in them like a Golden Thread that links them all at the inner levels. Sounds like you have done this also. There was always a kind of rebelliousness about me as a youngster that questioned religion though. I also found that the New Age movement had a kind of surface slick that was just another set of dogmas to get caught up in.

I think that whatever stage we are at in our spiritual growth, we did not arrive there in one lifetime. We have gradually evolved over many lifetimes. Gradually learning and experiencing all aspects of physical life, 'as' everything. All human experiences possible the soul records as wisdom when they have been lived and understood. We go home pregnant with experience. Content and at Peace with All That Is.

Love

Carmen

[Carmen]

As I have written previously on this thread, much of my learning has been from inspirational books.

One set of books that I really love and read and re-read and underline every which way, is a set by the writer Annalee Skarin. These books are so precious to me that I hesitate to share them because I would not like to see them critisized! Sounds a bit pathetic I know, but to me they are really special and have taught me soo much. I don't even share these with my friends because they find them to religious!

They are not religious to me. They contain so much truth.

Initially when I first read them my personality felt like it was being bashed over the head, clobbered!!, but something in me held me to the learning contained in the books.

I now wish to share them with Avalon members as they may find them as inspirational as I have.

They are out of print now but can be obtained quite cheaply through any of the secondhand book outlets.

Love

Carmen

[Jonah]

The decisions I made when I decided to make a distinction between unindividuated potential and actual energy producing potential brought me to here today. I am clearing all the decisions that I decided to place on automatic -- clearing the automatic function to be more exact.

The whole schema comes apart in addressing past life cycles this way and one has the potential to once again be that simple (but wiser) Pure Potential.

I shouldn't speak as if this is the way for everyone because the process I use is purely my own subjective exploration and only through perhaps one facet.
gnosis[/QUOTE]

thats very beautiful gnosis. your tone sounds familiar to me. blessings

[Carmen]

The more Clearing we do, the clearer are our views. We clean the windows of our soul!

Then we are left with the Joy of Spirit. We keep our windows clean and the sparkling Light Shines through.

Love

Carmen

[Carmen]

Another attribute of the Soul level of consciousness is that the sexual energy that used to sit in the first seal, mostly, permeates the entire body. The body is filled with a delicious sensual/sexual feeling. One of melting Love of All that Is.

Love and Light

Carmen

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by Carmen

Another attribute of the Soul level of consciousness is that the sexual energy that used to sit in the first seal, mostly, permeates the entire body. The body is filled with a delicious sensual/sexual feeling. One of melting Love of All that Is.

Love and Light

Carmen

I have a friend who is a living example of that and I am speechless with wonder. We know that each one of us is quite wonderful in our own way, but so different in our paths to Nirvana. I'm sure I could use a little bit of her delicious sensual/sexual feeling instilled within myself, but the best I can manage is a large scale compassion and agonizing over what is the best strategy to gain the most leverage using the tools I have in the seemingly short time I have.

If you were going to help heal the world in the shortest period of time what group or person(s) would you work with first, assuming you can reach any group or person(s) you desire? Of course family comes first.

[powerviolence]

Carmen, from all my research, I was under the impression that 4th density life wouldn't still be threedimensional, in other words that you would ascend from this 3rd density life to a new realm that can't be seen/explained in our 3rd density terms, and that if you did stay in 3rd density as a 4th density being, you would unlock supernatural powers such as telepathy, clairvoyance, etc.. I've always believed that's what 4th density meant, that we would truly 'advance' to the next level, not just stay in 3rd density albeit very enlightened and very full of love, I thought the shift from 3rd to 4th density would be massive and radical and it would probably mean the end of our 3rd reality self, that's what I gathered from the Hidden Hand's testimony and the Law of One in which the harvest and ascension were explained, of course I could be wrong, what's your take on this?. I enjoyed your thread regardless.

[Carmen]

Thank you powerviolence (what a name), As I understand it, and have experienced to a certain degree, the mind is or can be trained to be, multi-dimensional and the different areas of our brains vacilitate this. All humans have this ability although some seem to be born with it full blown ie clairvoyance, telepathy etc. Its part of our natural progression/evolvement. The ability to healing oneself naturally is part of this higher order.

We all know of, and have experienced abilities/knowingness that do not fit into 3D. They are usually dismissed by totally 3D people, but people who have experienced paranormal abilities, even for a fleeting moment, know what they experience, no matter the naysayers. It will stay with them the rest of their lives but they usually give up discussing their experiences with people around them who are ready ridiculers.

When people ascend this plane (and this is my opinion/assumption!!) they will go, physically, to the realm that they already live in to a large extent, in mind, in consciousness. Your future reality is first created in your mind, then it manifests in the physical. Thats how it happens in 3D already, whether we are conscious of it or not. When reaching for a higher order of consciousness, we first have to understand the laws pertaining to that level, then 'Live' that Higher order as if we were already there. Sort of like 'faking it, till you make it', but that sounds dismissive because to me it is a Sacred Responsibility to evolve/improve ourselves. We were never meant to be static/set in any life. We are meant/designed to change and grow, constantly.

It can be quite overwhelming at first when we are mired in situations and lifestyles seemingly out of our control. I had a silly wee saying I say to myself when the mountain (of limitations) seems too high. Its 'Eat your elephant one bite at a time'!!!!! Works for me, and it does help to keep a sense of humour. Life is eternal. You have eternity to work on all this and whats more, (this is the bit I love to remind myself of) whatever we really, really understand and change about ourselves, we get to keep forever, doesnt matter how many lifetimes we have. What we learnt is Soul Wisdom and now part of our character.

Love and Light

Carmen

[Carmen]

Dear Gnosis (the main person who has kept my little thread alive!!) The sexual stuff is a curly question and one most people are vitally interested in!!! I was very excited when I first moved my sexual energy up the body (it shot to my head) but Im blowed if I could find 'anyone' who had had the same experience or understood to any degree what the hell I was talking about!!

My then husband was particularly upsetHis sexy scorpio wife was gone!!It really was a parting of the ways. One cannot relate physically to a mate who is stuck in their first seal, no matter how long you try. But strong energy, whether it be sexual or otherwise is a great asset to use to move towards enlightening oneself! And I do think finding a mate who is on the 'path' so to speak, would enable one to explore transcendental lovemaking.

The best way to help change this 3D world is to work on self, always working on yourself. It can sometimes seem selfish to be only doing that, but to me its the only way. Whatever anyone else is doing or saying around us is secondary to the work we do with ourselves. Eventually we will notice changes happening within ourselves, attitudes corrected, habitual behavour overcome. There will be a precious 'something' that is growing within that cannot be dismissed and really cannot be discussed. Its like a precious pearl that we guard carefully while it grows. Their is a growing confidence in what we are doing. This is reflected in our demenour (spelling!!) our beingness that others start to notice, as its starts to radiate out. I was amazed over the years watching my family change and accept the changes in me. Even my older siblings who are very asleep, find the new me acceptable.

Love

Carmen