Experimenting with Time?

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by Scarab

They know when it's lunch time.

No they don't. They know when they're hungry.

[Scarab]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

No they don't. They know when they're hungry.

They know when it's time to eat.

[New Age Messiah]

Originally Posted by Scarab

They know when it's time to eat.

You're the same guy that got banned.

they know when they're hungry. Time to eat is a fixed time that has nothing to do with being hungry, unless you happen to be hungry.

[Scarab]

Normally I wouldn't condone feeding the beast here...

However, if a child grows up in the jungle having never known a thing about time.... would he never grow hungry.... No... he would eat when his brain tells him "hey lets get something to eat".... depending on what he ate... it would take a certain amount of energy to digest his food until he became hungry again....

what does any of this have to do with time???

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

You're the same guy that got banned.

they know when they're hungry. Time to eat is a fixed time that has nothing to do with being hungry, unless you happen to be hungry.

Who I am in real life is of no consequence to you.

Kids get hungry after enough time has elapsed since their last meal.

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by Scarab

Kids get hungry after enough time has elapsed since their last meal.

What you say seems more like a coincidence to me.

Actually they get hungry because they ran out of the last lot of food, and the body is ready for more. This can take varying lengths of time.

There may be no relation between this physiology and time. It is quite possible that time is still irrelevant to this process, but we are conditioned to see it as relevant.

A..

[Angel in Disguise]

There doesn't necessarily have to be a 'time' to eat... Just eat when you're hungry. I don't care what time of day it is, sure I'll have breakfast before dark and dinner when I get hungry... which will be later but I never know what time and I don't really care what time... it's when I'm hungry!

[Scarab]

How come nobody can answer about the swallows or the groundhogs?

[Angel in Disguise]

Personally... didn't think to research it because I highly doubt that groundhogs specifically come out of their hole on feb 2 of each year, but wait I will look it up

[Angel in Disguise]

Here you go... I don't see anywhere where it specifically says Feb 2nd is the day groundhogs come out... I do read that they hibernate for 3 months yes, they also say they wake up early Feb... That could mean the 1st, 3rd or 4th... who knows perhaps depending on the weather it could be way earlier or later... Who knows and who cares, it just happens.
http://www.nwf.org/nationalwildlife/...articleid=1043

[Scarab]

Originally Posted by Angel in Disguise

Who knows and who cares, it just happens.
http://www.nwf.org/nationalwildlife/...articleid=1043

Yes, it does. Always around the same TIME.

How about the swallows. Did you research that too?

[Angel in Disguise]

Originally Posted by Scarab

Yes, it does. Always around the same TIME.

How about the swallows. Did you research that too?

No, not going to bother cause you aren't understanding me so even if I researched it I know it would be a waste of my 'time'... Although I have no problem agreeing to disagree

[New Age Messiah]

Scarab is an antagonist, he got banned under another name a few days ago.

[Scarab]

Originally Posted by New Age Messiah

Scarab is an antagonist, he got banned under another name a few days ago.

Not an antagonist. More of a critical thinker.

I have noticed you and the angel there making reference to 'wasting time' and 'a few days ago'.

Or is that illusion?

[Angel in Disguise]

Originally Posted by Scarab

Not an antagonist. More of a critical thinker.

I have noticed you and the angel there making reference to 'wasting time' and 'a few days ago'.

Or is that illusion?

Oh Scarab... we all have different illusions and yours may not be the same as ours and that's ok... Which is why we can agree to disagree

[Scarab]

Originally Posted by Angel in Disguise

Oh Scarab... we all have different illusions and yours may not be the same as ours and that's ok... Which is why we can agree to disagree

Believe it or not, I have an open mind.

Show me (in simple terms and your own words) how time is an illusion. Please explain how the examples from nature I gave fit into the illusion and also please explain how the illusion applies to the limited days in a man's life.

I do want to learn. It's just that, at the surface, it sounds like bunk.

[Angel in Disguise]

Originally Posted by Scarab

Believe it or not, I have an open mind.

Show me how time is an illusion. Please explain how the examples from nature I gave fit into the illusion and also please explain how the illusion applies to the limited days in a man's life.

I do want to learn. It's just that, at the surface, it sounds like bunk.

It sounds bunk because you're not open to seeing the opposite of what you know or think you know or perhaps were taught... Once you master that the possiblities are endless... or should I say 'timeless'

[Scarab]

Originally Posted by Angel in Disguise

It sounds bunk because you're not open to seeing the opposite of what you know or think you know or perhaps were taught... Once you master that the possiblities are endless... or should I say 'timeless'

If you don't want to explain it, that's OK too. Maybe somebody else can?

[Angel in Disguise]

Originally Posted by Scarab

If you don't want to explain it, that's OK too. Maybe somebody else can?

Best way to explain it is it's like when you go on vacation... You often lost track of the time, you see it's day or night but you never know what time nor day it is... It doesn't matter, it just IS. Does that help?

[Scarab]

Originally Posted by Angel in Disguise

Best way to explain it is it's like when you go on vacation... You often lost track of the time, you see it's day or night but you never know what time nor day it is... It doesn't matter, it just IS. Does that help?

Honestly. No.

Because during that vacation, if you're flying on an airplane and staying at a hotel, taking tours or doing activities, there are check in times, waiting times, check out times, show times, tour times etc.

Even if you walk into the wilderness for vacation, there is a time to leave, a time to sleep, a time to eat and when you return you will have spent x days and/or y hours in the wildernes.

Time will have passed.

[Angel in Disguise]

Originally Posted by Scarab

Honestly. No.

Because during that vacation, if you're flying on an airplane and staying at a hotel, taking tours or doing activities, there are check in times, waiting times, check out times, show times, tour times etc.

Even if you walk into the wilderness for vacation, there is a time to leave, a time to sleep, a time to eat and when you return you will have spent x days and/or y hours in the wildernes.

Time will have passed.

The point is... What if there wasn't?

[Scarab]

Originally Posted by Angel in Disguise

The point is... What if there wasn't?

OK. The 'what if' makes it pretty clear to me now. Thank You.

[Angel in Disguise]

It's either clear or it's not and I'm not convinced you 'clearly' understand by your response... Was that condescending or was it really 'clearly' understood?

[Fredkc]

Scarab - You are having entirely too much fun with this. (he heh)
Ever see the movie "Deep Blue Sea" ?


1982, Alain Aspect conducted some experiments in particle physics.

"Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances subatomic particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate with each other regardless of the distance separating them. It doesn't matter whether they are 10 feet or 10 billion miles apart.

University of London physicist David Bohm, for example, believes Aspect's findings imply that objective reality does not exist, that despite its apparent solidity the universe is at heart a phantasm..."

So time, along with space becomes either an all-inclusive "now", or a paradox.

Finally, there is a great family-owned "greasy spoon" restaurant about 6 miles from me called El Rancho. They do an incredible omelet!

How's 12:30 Monday sound for lunch?

Fred

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by Scarab

If you don't want to explain it, that's OK too. Maybe somebody else can?

I'd like to try.

When you are focussed on an very absorbing task - one that you enjoy, time passes but most people can relate the experience of when the awareness of time passing does not happen. It doesn't always happen, but when it does it can be quite profound.

When you are done with your task - you realise how much time has passed - yet you are amazed at the disconnect between that fact and how it actually feels

In my view - if you can relate to that - then there lies a clue to what I think is being expressed.

I would say that it is the experience of time that is an illusion.

Time is a fact not an illusion. Time passes. Linear time is experienced, it can be measured. The original post does not refute that either. It simply says the mechanics are changing.

Have you never driven from A to B and then suddenly realised you just arrived with no recollection of the minutiae of details that happened on the journey - nor the passage of time associated with it? It is a common experience among people undergoing energetic changes within their bodies.

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[Fredkc]

Hey Anchor... how's it going?

That was why I asked,
Ever see the movie "Deep Blue Sea" ?

In there is a great explanation of that:
"Put your hand on a hot stove, a second can seem like an hour.
Put your hand on a hot woman, and an hour goes by like a second."

Fred