Do you think David Wilcox is a false prophet?

[illuminate]

Originally Posted by Brian En

His message encouraged me to try and flip over to the positive and stop the free feedings.

I just love the way you put that!

[I_Am]

We are all false prophets, in the definition of doing prophesies - you never know until afterwards if it is to become truth - when we stop being prophets per definition...

The most interesting is maybe not if the prophets prophesies are right or wrong - but - what they do to you when you recieve them.

The only truely "true" prophesies are to my perspective those which you recieve yourself - you will recognise them by the shivers on your back/neck/spine...that is: you know when you know...same with lucid dreaming - learning the truth - watching the wonderful speech etc - sometimes you just KNOW.

Important things are never to be handled with with your intelect, but your heart and intuition.

If David's thoughts hits you - you better start listening and listening right hard. Otherwise - drop it - move on until you know.

Love from Sweden.

/M

[Brian En]

Originally Posted by illuminate

I just love the way you put that!

Thank you.

[feardia]

David wilcock doesn't know any more than the rest of us, who told him he was a prophet? People have projected onto him what they want him to be and his ego has run away with it. Be your own guru...

[SteveX]

Originally Posted by feardia

David wilcock doesn't know any more than the rest of us, who told him he was a prophet? People have projected onto him what they want him to be and his ego has run away with it. Be your own guru...

I think the above quote is spot on.

When David links one theory to another in an "as if by magic" style I'm left wondering why there was no pink Toto and pirouette.

DNA changes in 2012...yer right. Gone cooked his goose with that one.

But the above is bye the bye as he does raise a few thoughts. You can either accept or reject or research deeper on a topic he raises. It's the lost souls (gullible) that concerns me. Then again that's part and parcel of natural selections

[metaw3]

You might want to look at his website before 2000:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/ascension2000.com

[sjkted]

Originally Posted by metaw3

You might want to look at his website before 2000:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/ascension2000.com

So, we were all supposed to ascend in the year 2000?

--sjkted

[joe2288]

I do not believe Davids ever claimed to be a prophet. I believe he is a more

of a researcher, in a way a a person who puts pieces of the puzzle together,

for those who don't have the opportunity to do it themselves. I think people

who label other people as prophets, or follow self proclaimed profits, have more

learning to do for themselves.

[THE eXchanger]

JK, Jiddu Krishnamurti, was a good one to listen too
and, David Wilcock, does VERY good work !!!

[micjer]

Originally Posted by metaw3

You might want to look at his website before 2000:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/ascension2000.com

I looked through a fair bit of this. Did David predict that we were all going to ascend in Y2K? I didn't read or follow him back then.

[sjkted]

Originally Posted by micjer

I looked through a fair bit of this. Did David predict that we were all going to ascend in Y2K? I didn't read or follow him back then.

As far as I can tell, it sure looks like it.

--sjkted

[sjkted]

Here's another gem to look at:

http://web.archive.org/web/200104100...om/9.11.99.htm

--sjkted

[DOMINIC 777]

Originally Posted by sjkted

As far as I can tell, it sure looks like it.

--sjkted

One falsehood is that David Wilcock is no reincarnation of Edgar Cayce,he has a big Ego problem ,the very thing we are trying to conquer and because no-one can predict the future ...anyone who says they can is a false prophet..
i could say nice positive things but reality is reality
lol
dom

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by DOMINIC 777

One falsehood is that David Wilcock is no reincarnation of Edgar Cayce,he has a big Ego problem ,the very thing we are trying to conquer and because no-one can predict the future ...anyone who says they can is a false prophet..
i could say nice positive things but reality is reality
lol dom

Out of curiousity DOM,
how good is your 'own reality' right now ???

(you do NOT need to publically, answer that question,
but, it is a good one, for many of us, to ponder~myself included)
as, i do believe, we live by our sword, and, act with our sword.

iT seems, that anyone who steps out to do anything significant,
gets laughed at, then, gets riduculed, and/or singled out,
and, people point the 'ego' thing, at them,
when in reality, you have an i-god, (internal god)
and, an e-god, (eXternal god)...and, iT iS the only way,
in which, you can eXpress things.

iT also, seems, that anyone who steps out,
and, stays outrageous/or out-of-the-norm, or, NOT normal things,
oft times, people assume, they are crazy, or they are nuts,
OR, they are stuffed full of an ego -- let's hope you are stuffed full of something

and, yet, when everyone, or, at least some of them,
realise, that someone is, on a good path ~ they knew iT all along
(and, did NOT really need that person to tell them anything)

perhaps, iT is proof that we are all here,
in interersting times/or TYMES
~and, everyone has different parts
of the same huge puzzle
NO one piece, more important than the other pieces...
perhaps, as soon, as, we quick the process of picking the other pieces,
to pieces, all the pieces, will fit, back together again,
and, the huge taprestry of life/and, lives, will come back into alignment,
and, those NOT here, with a goal of total AGAPE/or total LOVE,
will just NOT be here, anymore !!!

[DOMINIC 777]

Hello exchanger ,
My reality is fine, Daivid wilcock is not the reincarnatiion of Edgar Ccayce, and no-one can tell the future..they will be false prophets
quote:
how good is your 'own reality' right now ???

My reality is based on a deep intuitive instinct...and if people are positive and trying to help Mankind... i BELIEVE THIS TO BE MY REALITY...linked to Love, Compassion and Altruism......everything else comes from the EGO...and conquering the ego is based on suffering.....otherwise we do not learn anything.....the battle now is between SANITY and INSANITY...insanity will create WORLD-WIDE GENOCIDE
lol
dominic

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

Out of curiousity DOM,
how good is your 'own reality' right now ???

(you do NOT need to publically, answer that question,
but, it is a good one, for many of us, to ponder~myself included)
as, i do believe, we live by our sword, and, act with our sword.

iT seems, that anyone who steps out to do anything significant,
gets laughed at, then, gets riduculed, and/or singled out,
and, people point the 'ego' thing, at them,
when in reality, you have an i-god, (internal god)
and, an e-god, (eXternal god)...and, iT iS the only way,
in which, you can eXpress things.

iT also, seems, that anyone who steps out,
and, stays outrageous/or out-of-the-norm, or, NOT normal things,
oft times, people assume, they are crazy, or they are nuts,
OR, they are stuffed full of an ego -- let's hope you are stuffed full of something

and, yet, when everyone, or, at least some of them,
realise, that someone is, on a good path ~ they knew iT all along
(and, did NOT really need that person to tell them anything)

perhaps, iT is proof that we are all here,
in interersting times/or TYMES
~and, everyone has different parts
of the same huge puzzle
NO one piece, more important than the other pieces...
perhaps, as soon, as, we quick the process of picking the other pieces,
to pieces, all the pieces, will fit, back together again,
and, the huge taprestry of life/and, lives, will come back into alignment,
and, those NOT here, with a goal of total AGAPE/or total LOVE,
will just NOT be here, anymore !!!

[metaw3]

Originally Posted by micjer

I looked through a fair bit of this. Did David predict that we were all going to ascend in Y2K? I didn't read or follow him back then.

The name of the site is suggesting it, as well as pieces of text before 2000:

http://web.archive.org/web/199905081...nsion2000.com/

Now Within One Year of Arrival - Getting Excited?

http://web.archive.org/web/199910021...ence/9901.html

So now it is time for a new millennium. Big deal. Why all the attention, we ask? We all know that the Earth will have revolved around the Sun exactly 2000 times since the year that we declared as the birth of Christ. And now, our calendar system is about to flip over, and we brace for the shock that our computer systems will endure from using "19" as a built - in standard, and only the last two digits to indicate the actual year. The "y2k" problem, or the "Millennium Bug," certainly appears to have the potential to make some of these heinous prophecies come true. Thousands and thousands of different computer systems, in every conceivable area of human usage, will simply not "make it." American assessors insist quite arrogantly that the US will fare moderately well. The further implication is that most of the rest of the world will take a crash course in a technology and electricity-free, pioneering lifestyle, for an unknown length of time.

But let's take a good look at the facts. In the worst-case scenario, there is a loss of all telephone and power services. Whether other systems are compliant or not almost becomes immaterial if this were to happen, because even a fully compliant system needs power and communications to run on. The careful Internet media mogul, leafing through articles on Jeff Rense's website entitled Sightings, can see numerous examples of Canada and European countries openly preparing their militaries for social collapse and chaos. The first possible signs of an anticipated collapse occurring in America are visible as well, with the Fed printing $80 billion in new cash to cover the inevitable bank runs that people will make. Also, a recent bulletin from the FEMA prepared their volunteers to be fully prepared and active by Summer of 1999, in order to intervene in a possible social collapse.

[...]

In short, we will demonstrate that the 1999-2000 Ascension Vortex is the result of all dimensions in the Solar System operating through large, approximately 25,000-year cycles.

http://web.archive.org/web/199910021...ence/9906.html

Thus, the total meaning of "Universal reincarnation" seems to be that every person who has ever walked on the face of the Earth in the last 12,500 years has reincarnated at least once in the 20th Century, and hopefully will be around for the 1999 -2000 event itself.

http://web.archive.org/web/200102082...ence/9903.html

And now, in the present moment, growing contingents of astrophysicists are predicting major failures in our communication systems, surrounding the year 2000. The typical 11-year sunspot cycle reaches its peak in 2000, and based on current observations, we can expect some very serious solar effects as a result.

http://web.archive.org/web/200102082...ence/9903.html

Clearly, the Maya put a great deal of work into this cycle, and it appears from their own writings that they were warning us that this cycle causes periodic, massive cataclysms. Without factoring in Ascension, the more we find out about this cycle, the more we want to know when it will be. Then we know that we can stop going to work, put on a pair of shorts, sit out and relax in a lawn chair and wait for the end of time, quietly sipping a lemonade [or perhaps something a lot stronger.] And the near - unanimous conclusion is that the end date is… [drum roll…] December 22, 2012!

2012. There you go - the sun shifts, the earth shifts, and the most expensive resort hotels in the world are booked out ten years in advance for that fateful night. The Ra Material indicates that the Earth will have become completely fourth-dimensional by this point. The French have calculated that the Earth will pass into the Age of Aquarius at this point. If we take it at strictly face value, it would appear that this is when the incredible moment of Ascension should take place, right?

But no, something doesn’t feel quite right there. Cayce talked of 1998 and 2001 for the solar cycle, not 2012. Indeed, untold multitudes of reliable intuitive predictions seem to center on 2000, not 2012. This is covered quite well in A.T. Mann's book Millennium Prophecies and Charles Berlitz's Doomsday 1999 AD. It also is obviously a featured aspect of Bible prophecy, as indicated in works such as Hal Lindsey's The Late Great Planet Earth.

[...]

In the previous editions of this book, the author had incorrectly drawn a conclusion regarding the 12 / 22 / 2012 Mayan Calendar ending date being wrong, and the actual ending date being 2039. You will see why this happened in the next chapter. Thus, this edition of the book is revised and updated to correct the errors in previous editions. The author, through his own deep trance work doing psychic "readings," has now discovered exactly why he was wrong in the past. He has also discovered exactly why 2000 is the year to watch for a dimensional shift, not 2012. As we go forward in this book, all of these points will be explained.

etc.

There are fall back dates until 2039. So I guess ascension can happen as late as 2039, but obviously, in 2001 the name of the site had to be changed.


http://web.archive.org/web/199910021...ence/9907.html

We will suggest here that in 2039, many others besides the Messianic figure will be arriving as well; namely, our now - ascended brethren from 1999. Lemesurier himself suggested that 2039 could be interpreted in more general, less Christianity-focused terms in his second Pyramid book, The Great Pyramid - Your Personal Guide.

[Steve_A]

Hi metaw3,

Once again it appears that Wilcock is merely repassing information that he has researched. In the examples you gave he uses "It seems" or "They have predicted" or "According to".

I see him as a researcher and of course there is nothing wrong in that.

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by metaw3

The name of the site is suggesting it, as well as pieces of text before 2000:

http://web.archive.org/web/199905081...nsion2000.com/



http://web.archive.org/web/199910021...ence/9901.html



http://web.archive.org/web/199910021...ence/9906.html



http://web.archive.org/web/200102082...ence/9903.html


http://web.archive.org/web/200102082...ence/9903.html


etc.

There are fall back dates until 2039. So I guess ascension can happen as late as 2039, but obviously, in 2001 the name of the site had to be changed.


http://web.archive.org/web/199910021...ence/9907.html

[12DnAHelix]

Originally Posted by metaw3

You might want to look at his website before 2000:

http://web.archive.org/web/*/ascension2000.com

He is definitely a 2012 bandwagon jumper. It's good to see that someone posted the link to his old Ascension2000 website.

Personally, I think names say a lot:

Wilcock = Dick around

There are those of us in his same age range who have been repping 2012 since 1995/1996 and who have had very direct experiences with so called 'ET' intelligence.

I don't think he is any more special than you, or myself; and he certainly needs to gain a few more clues - as we each do.

Regards

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Jacqui D

why is there the need to define whether David is a dis informer of not, i have no doubt that David has had some form of contact and been given information via what ever source, the point here is that he has been getting the word out for a time now in my view he has the ability to be able to orate his discussions/interviews have always entertained me, let us stop defining people what they can or can not do and except that not all are on the same level of consciousness.
I like DavidCOLOR]
[COLOR="DarkOrange"]I am still reading through his free e book.

David is sincere and highly attuned to the 'higherD' vibrational patterns.
David is 'on the way' of becoming an 'elder', which he is not yet, mainly due to his 'youthful exhuberance'.
Many of you know or have read, that David has a 'contact' with an elder man coming out of a spaceship of sorts. He ascribes to this 'elder' some sort of guidance role relative to himself.
This is correct - David is 'looked after' from the 'alien side' and this is positive without deceit.

Like Bill and Kerry and as many have noticed; BEING in the 'public spotlight' infers many 'emotional, psychological and physical' pressures and it are those pressures, which OFTEN result in 'younger' behaviours and expressions.
This is why some 'elders' like 'James of the wingmakers' shun ALL public exposure. It accentuates the persona of the information giver and not the data.
The most potent information of the 'elders' can be given in relative anonymity.

David Wilcock, David Icke and Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy have 'agreed' within the 'higher agenda' to 'go out on a limb' to SYNERGIZE the potent work of the 'elders' without public exposure WITH the potent PUBLIC work of the 'youngers' for the benefice of all. They are all to be supported as fulfilling their 'work' for the 'Greater Agenda'.

It's like this: The (hidden) Cosmic Grandparents have formed an ALLIANCE with their (Public) Cosmic Grandchildren to REEDUCATE the (status quo and disinformed) Cosmic Children.
But it is all Cosmic Family in Transformation.

Abraxasinas

[haibane]

Yes, David Wilcock is a bit full of himself, even for my taste, but whether false or a prophet only time will tell - I don't agree with everything he says or writes by far, and I certainly don't think most of his 'scientific proofs' and 'disclosrures' fit the description at all ... But I'm always willing to listen to what he has to say. I hope he won't change into some kind of a 'spiritual leader' one day, as he himself discourages from that, and anyway, he himself advises everyone not to take anything at its face value.

So, as for me, no, I don't think he is a false prophet.

[sjkted]

For the people who answered they derive benefit from Wilcock's work, I'm curious. What benefit do you get from it?

--sjkted

[haibane]

Originally Posted by sjkted

For the people who answered they derive benefit from Wilcock's work, I'm curious. What benefit do you get from it?

--sjkted

Like, this, for example?

Originally Posted by Brian En

The big thing for me is that I was feeding the negative energy monster, and I was feeding him well. His message encouraged me to try and flip over to the positive and stop the free feedings.

[Christo888]

I thought this was kinda cool... from November 28th 1999.

http://web.archive.org/web/199911281...nsion2000.com/

[Wilcock Reading 52-5]

We have now crossed the 8/11/99 "11:11" gateway.

Literally, at any time, any day now, it could be RIGHT NOW…

Are You Ready Right Now?

Seriously.



If not, go into the bathroom. Look at yourself in the mirror.

Apologize for hurting this person all these years. Be specific.

Forgive yourself for hurting this person all these years. Don't lie.

Tell the person looking at you that you love them. Mean it.

If you didn’t cry, you did it wrong.

This is your penultimate homework assignment!

It is best performed during a personal "healing crisis." Try it.


.......................
The world is full of prophets about 7 billion of them and they're all psychic and have dreams.

I remember the ones back in the ol born again church days now those people were the best prophets and servants ever on the face of the earth. The church was full of the most powerful dreamers and interpreters and the prophesy's that came forth were the most accurate ever recorded to date (but I guess Jesus didn't get the memo).

I met Isis/Mary Magdelene in Florida and spent lots of time with her. Cleopatra lives up in Michigan she is a really neat lady. I guess just tuning into a certain frequency like on a radio you can see and understand the energy field of that frequency just like all those in the past have done before.

This is a crazy cool planet isn't it!!!

You can be anyone you want to be!

[Steve_A]

Hi Jacqui D,

Wilcocks' free e-book is like mine (yes, I write books also! ). The tactic is the same, albeit the subject is different.

On my site I offer the free e-book in exchange for a persons' e-mail address as I know that the moment that person downloads my free e-book they are interested in the subject matter and I can contact them later to buy the full priced book.

There is a reason why free e-books are offered on the web and it's not necessarily just to get the info out there or because I'm a nice guy (although I am ).

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by Jacqui D;
I like David:thumb_yello:COLOR

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I am still reading through his free e book.

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by Steve_A

There is a reason why free e-books are offered on the web and it's not necessarily just to get the info out there or because I'm a nice guy (although I am ).

Hi Steve,

As Wilcock would say; you give a little and get some in return too.

I don't think there is anything wrong with that ethic.

The problem is some people only see things in black-or-white terms. They either don't trust David and believe he's an outright fraud, or they think as the title would suggest: "prophet".

Not applying this to yourself or anyone else here, by any means, just saying I have noted this perspective with many people on conspiracy forums, and not just DW, but it seems a trend plaguing almost every other alternative researcher of 'fringe topics' as well.

We need to have a more balanced perspective overall.

Cheers