Is Disclosureproject a fraud ?

[Sunnely]

Perhaps this might be of interest ....

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/foru...ad9268-15.html

and

http://www.bariumblues.com/bearden_disinformation.htm

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[SpaceMonkey]

I think that believeing the disclosure project is a fraud is a bigger conspiracy than the actual ufo conspiracy. These are very credible witnesses with hours worth of interviews. What is also interesting is that Gary Mckinnon who is the man from the uk who faces 60 years in an american jail for hacking into nasa in the search for ufo evidence, researched into one of the nasa workers working for nasa. He found the actual department where she said she worked and also found images of alien spacecraft. Here's the interview http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=B4PkNPCEnJM

[bennycog]

i guess this thread name should be changed to disclosure project has a spie
I wrote to Dr Richard Boylan
i wont indorse the content but it assists to continue this little investigation.
here is what i wrote to him:
just wanted to point out that I went to the project disclosure website and looked in the 'about' section and then the 'acknowelegment' section and I found Lawrence rockefeller about halfway down the right hand side.
now my question. he is in what you call the CABAL right? so what is he doing funding the research that he does not want the public to see? is he manipulating the disclosure project? is the disclosure project a farce? are they trying to discredit any whistle blower they get on their side by controlling the front runner Dr Greer?

please reply Dr Boylan. If possible could you add information.

here is my reply:

[bennycog]

here is my reply:
Ben, et al.,

Hello.
Of course Steven Greer is a wholly-purchased "asset" of Lawrence Rockefeller and the Rockefeller family. The Rockefellers are uber-Cabal.
Lawrence Rockefeller financed UFO research which was tame and controlled, (nothing too serious saw the light of public view). Meanwhile Steven Greer's "credibility" as an "industrious UFO investigator and advocate" grew. Greer is a "sleeper" agent.
For more see: http://www.drboylan.com/openltr2ufocomm.html

in the light,

Richard Boylan, Ph.D.

i will try contacting Dr Greer himself, see what he says.

[bennycog]

sorry guys. i guess i need to tell you the reason i asked Dr Boylan.

i watched a doco called safespace fastwalker files and seen that Dr Greer and Dr Boylan were both in this doco.

[Shechaiyah]

I have learned nothing from the Disclosure Project that wasn't already known.

Where I learned new nooz is in the NASA Rover database, checking to see whether their photos are real or not. They're not.

Once you know this, you can begin to GROK the real situation. Don't go there if you scare easy.

Shech--

[THEWATCHER]

Knock the Disclosure Project if you wish, I have no problem with that, as long as you continue to have the courtesey to not knock the actual 400+ witnesses whom have come forward. They risk, they have a lot to lose, they have nothing to gain, but a need to educate the public. Do you trust Dr Boylan more than Dr Greer then? Perhaps they all have an agenda of sorts?


THE WATCHER aka BMK

[bennycog]

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

Knock the Disclosure Project if you wish, I have no problem with that, as long as you continue to have the courtesey to not knock the actual 400+ witnesses whom have come forward. They risk, they have a lot to lose, they have nothing to gain, but a need to educate the public. Do you trust Dr Boylan more than Dr Greer then? Perhaps they all have an agenda of sorts?


THE WATCHER aka BMK

you will notice that i do not discredit any witness.
just trying to get to the bottom of it. i cant be like anyone else and just whisk over the information that does not fit. nor should any of us.
we are no better off if we do that. and all of us here should contribute some research so as to come to a conclusion amongst us. by all means get something about Dr Boylan. it could become very circular in the info that we get. But, we will find a way to break that circle and find what is outside of it.

[THEWATCHER]

that is good to know. Merely asking that everyone takes the time to view/read each witness testimony and then sit back and run it thru your mind. ask questions. Each of us have become disillusioned with Dr Greer over the past few years and have sought other avenues in which to disclose. Still loyal to the project but resigned to the fact we are getting nowhere fast.

THE WATCHER aka BMK

[bennycog]

Originally Posted by Shechaiyah

I have learned nothing from the Disclosure Project that wasn't already known.

Where I learned new nooz is in the NASA Rover database, checking to see whether their photos are real or not. They're not.

Once you know this, you can begin to GROK the real situation. Don't go there if you scare easy.

Shech--

hey schech,
can you post the website your refering too and explain how they are not real. I dont doubt it. we should show all evidence we can on anything we are doing here and on other threads. it makes it easier on everyone else. and all us investigating together and freely showing it, can bring alot of knowledge.
benny

[Shechaiyah]

I did place some samples in an album, here, about twelve.

See for yourself whether Rover photos show Life On Mars or not.

HOWEVER, there is a CONSENSUS about Life On Mars, that disagrees with NASA.

WHICH KNOWN RESEARCHERS *AGREE* THAT LIFE IS EVERYWHERE -- EVEN ON MARS?

THESE MEN AGREE.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...07978100913713 Richard Hoagland

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...83671241989001 John Lear

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...62083172014414 George Green

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...52945040630461 William Deagle, MD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4PkNPCEnJM Gary McKinnon

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...67568796529301 David Sereda

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...46455844423962 Dan Burisch

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...52722&q=&hl=en Bob Dean

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk Steven Greer, MD.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...48655137118430 Bill Moyers

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...92185126189734 Alex Collier


shech--

Originally Posted by bennycog

hey schech,
can you post the website your refering too and explain how they are not real. I dont doubt it. we should show all evidence we can on anything we are doing here and on other threads. it makes it easier on everyone else. and all us investigating together and freely showing it, can bring alot of knowledge.
benny

[bennycog]

thanx schech

[Shechaiyah]

One of the things that happens when NASA DATA is brought forward and looked at critically, even in a neutral manner, is that debunkers come out of the woodwork and begin making accusations about the sanity of the OP.

The bad vibes that debunkers create actually ruin comraderie in a forum, so I'm limiting exposure of NASA data, by placing it in albums and not in threads.

Hopefully, such an accusatory scenario will not be repeated here, with such an illustrious group as this is, where people are fully cognizant of the realities of mind-rape and mind-control existent in the matrix Not-See system.

If this strategy isn't okay with you, please advise.

[bennycog]

sounds good to me schech.
i really dont want us looking amongst each other thinking "is he the reasl deal here"
i think we are all on the same level. though most of you would be much further in knowledge and investagation than me. i think it is great that we can post our findings and other people can look through them to find the same you have or maybe even more.

It sometimes gets hard to stay focused. but its harder to not be focused at all.

[clarkkent]

Originally Posted by Shechaiyah

I have learned nothing from the Disclosure Project that wasn't already known.

Where I learned new nooz is in the NASA Rover database, checking to see whether their photos are real or not. They're not.

Once you know this, you can begin to GROK the real situation. Don't go there if you scare easy.

Shech--

really? well i can tell you that most the public wasnt aware of structures on the moon, or 57 varieties of alien species catalogued by the government, or that we've back engineered UFO technology or that we could have a false flag alien attack that was predicted by a former nazi scientist we brought over to work for us.

if your were aware of all this in 2001 then kudos to you but i can assure the general public and media werent and ARENT.

[bennycog]

just recieved an email back from one of Dr Greer's assistants ( im guessing she is)
this is my questions

Hi Dr Greer,
i wanted to ask a few questions about Lawrence Rockefeller. I notice that he is in your acknowledgements page and that he has funded you on various accounts.
Have you reasearched the Rockefeller family tree and their past? I cant say i have myself but have looked into many that has.
Do you realize he is infiltrating you or are you involved?
Do you realize everything you are talking about he most likely already knows?
if you knew why did you let him part of the project when most of everyone knows that this family is part of the problem?


"Dear Ben,

Lawrence Rockefeller died a few years ago. He only funded a little bit, which was the first collection of best evidence cases compiled in the early-mid nineties to provide to president Clinton.
No, he has not infiltrated the project.

Regards,

Debbie"


not much info there but it is something.

benny

[Shechaiyah]

Originally Posted by clarkkent

really? well i can tell you that most the public wasnt aware of structures on the moon, or 57 varieties of alien species catalogued by the government, or that we've back engineered UFO technology or that we could have a false flag alien attack that was predicted by a former nazi scientist we brought over to work for us. if your were aware of all this in 2001 then kudos to you but i can assure the general public and media werent and ARENT.

Nope. I'm only talking about the last year. In 2001 I didn't know squat.

In our national carnival and soap opera atmosphere, it has taken a great deal of digging to even find a page to start. I just put up three albums (Moon, Mars and Sol); and if you look at what they contain, you will understand what I mean.

: ) Shech--

[spiritual_wanderer]

I think a person could go mad trying to figure out what's real, what's disinfo, a hoax, etc. I say to listen, if it feels right to you, great. If not, move on. What does it really matter at the end of the day? Is it going to change your reality? It's not going to change mine. But it's really fascinating, and so I pay attention. It's not my Bible or anything. None of this is.

[bennycog]

Originally Posted by spiritual_wanderer

I think a person could go mad trying to figure out what's real, what's disinfo, a hoax, etc. I say to listen, if it feels right to you, great. If not, move on. What does it really matter at the end of the day? Is it going to change your reality? It's not going to change mine. But it's really fascinating, and so I pay attention. It's not my Bible or anything. None of this is.

thats great if you are woken up to this world and can have that ability to feel out the disinfo.

we are here to wake other people up too. i do believe that the disclosure project is doing great for the world, but when one little thing just does not go. i like to find out why before i can pass it on to people to help them wake up.
otherwise i am better off going back to sleep and slip right into line with the rest of the sheeple

[bennycog]

another email.

"Hi Debbie,
I still cannot shake his involvement in the project. do you relate to the presumption of the rockefellers in the secret government? the same one that the disclosure project is trying to shake down and hopefully beat?
I would love to know Dr Greer's view on this. Yours aswell. "

reply

"Yes, the Rockefellers are involved with the secret government.

Debbie"

it's not really telling us much at all. i smell something. no info as to why lawrence rockefeller was involved.

[bennycog]

holy $%#@ lawrence rockefeller is on the acknowlegments page. wtf is going on. http://www.disclosureproject.org/ go to about us and go to acknowledgments. he is on the right hand side. do you get the feeling your mind just might explode?

lawrence rockefeller has pumped a bit of cash into the study of ufos i thought? Didn't he petition bill clinton about it when he was president?

[bennycog]

Originally Posted by shazbot

lawrence rockefeller has pumped a bit of cash into the study of ufos i thought? Didn't he petition bill clinton about it when he was president?

i didnt know he pumped any cash into ufo's, not so publicly anyway. do you think he is just getting his enemies close or that he acually can stear all that information wherever hey/they likes. i mean he is part of what people call cabal- illuminati- shadow government and the like, right? my little researching shows this anyway. it is tough only tackling one issue at a time i know but, when one little piece does not fit. It really affects everything else.
benny

Intresting toughts, but is it really a fraud?
I'm always sceptic of most topics, Dr. Steven Greer did his best the way he did it. But it wassent on my 6 o'clock news...

We try to build a community of people who builds his life towards 2012 and all the rest that is unknown to us.
What if they give us this kind of information to make us feel better... a link to this tought --> http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=9Kp24ZeHtv4
There are some amazing ufo stories out there, and what does history tell us?

Anyway I think the Disclosureproject is a good docu for nonbelivers, a wake up call?

Peace

[bennycog]

i still believe everything from the witnesses and i even have Dr Greer's book. but finding out a rockefeller is rubbing shoulders with the whole thing. just takes me back to when i first found out that bush is best mates with bin ladin.

do we all need to go back to the begining again and start from scratch?