What do you know of Ptah?

BROOK · 01-20-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gita

Only some of it. Like every thing else you have to show discernment - bucket loads. I'm also not a fan of Meier and his Ptah nor am I a fan of the Egyptian gods. The deeper you go down the rabbit hole...

There has been a very convoluted past with Egyptian Gods...and there has been much corruption...it is always good to use discernment when researching this subject...as it can sway you in the wrong direction. for Example...the Emerald Tablets...created by Thoth....if you read them they are full of sacred Geometry, the Flower of life...the Halls of Amente. All things that ring true..but in the end...it is laden with what I would consider Magic spells that are not good...although they sound good..they were in my mind used for corrupt purposes....in the area of creation.

gita · 01-20-2010, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BROOK

There has been a very convoluted past with Egyptian Gods...and there has been much corruption...it is always good to use discernment when researching this subject...as it can sway you in the wrong direction. for Example...the Emerald Tablets...created by Thoth....if you read them they are full of sacred Geometry, the Flower of life...the Halls of Amente. All things that ring true..but in the end...it is laden with what I would consider Magic spells that are not good...although they sound good..they were in my mind used for corrupt purposes....in the area of creation.

You know from what I’ve been reading, even some of the scared geometry seems to be there to keep us in this dimension. The Azure teachings come to mind but am not sure.

BROOK · 01-20-2010, 07:42 PM

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You know from what I’ve been reading, even some of the scared geometry seems to be there to keep us in this dimension. The Azure teachings come to mind but am not sure.

The Asure teachings..may use sacred Geometry..but math is math...and Sacred Geometry is creation if you allow yourself to see the pattern. 19.47..the merkaba is in everything...from the smallest cell to a galaxy....and can be pinpointed. It does seem to be the base formula of creation.

gita · 01-20-2010, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BROOK

The Asure teachings..may use sacred Geometry..but math is math...and Sacred Geometry is creation if you allow yourself to see the pattern. 19.47..the merkaba is in everything...from the smallest cell to a galaxy....and can be pinpointed. It does seem to be the base formula of creation.

Easy Brook. I did say 'some scared geometry' - not all.

Peace.

BROOK · 01-20-2010, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gita

Easy Brook. I did say 'some scared geometry' - not all.

Peace.

I agree very much with where you are going...I have seen the flower of life used in such a fashion to further the path of destruction rather than creation.....so goes the corrupt "Gods" of Egypt..in some sense..and the use of it for agendas that are meant to keep us slaves

gita · 01-20-2010, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BROOK

I agree very much with where you are going...I have seen the flower of life used in such a fashion to further the path of destruction rather than creation.....so goes the corrupt "Gods" of Egypt..in some sense..and the use of it for agendas that are meant to keep us slaves

That sounds really interesting. Would mind expanding on this please?

BROOK · 01-20-2010, 08:13 PM

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That sounds really interesting. Would mind expanding on this please?

boy, I did stick my foot in it didn't I? So I should say that it is my view that this Ptah, first of all...got corrupted...as I saw it in this post...

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...&postcount=265

And the Emerald Tablets were used for the corruption of that power. And they are the basis of Sacred geometry, first of all, then used for, shall we say...."creative" purposes. And again miss used for the purpose of agenda and power.

The flower of life is something of great power, and a piece of it I believe resides in all of us. The "key" is to build it...put it together....and earn it in our own creative fashion. With full use of it...it can be the source of great power...and it can also be something if in the wrong hands, can be used to destroy or control. To get full use of the flower of Life...you would have to have access to the completed flower. Now the ones that would have that would be the ascended ones. Can an ascended one be used or corrupted? That is the question of the day isn't it?

Were these Egyptian "Gods" ascended ones?

I'll also add that I believe that one can have an almost completed one...and be given a template or duplicate...that will activate it..then what would you do if you had that kind of power, and were not in the full ascension being state? could you be used for nefarious purpose...to further the agenda of shall we say power tripping? Furthering such agenda...and used as a tool by the PTB? Food for thought isn't it?

gita · 01-20-2010, 08:21 PM

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Now the ones that would have that would be the ascended ones. Can an ascended one be used or corrupted? That is the question of the day isn't it?

Were these Egyptian "Gods" ascended ones?

Stargate and the Ori come to mind!

BROOK · 01-20-2010, 08:26 PM

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Stargate and the Ori come to mind!

Indeed

gita · 01-20-2010, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BROOK

Indeed

BROOK · 01-20-2010, 08:37 PM

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All kidding aside though...I truly do believe there is a truth to it that is profound, and does reside in us...as we all have a spark of God in us...ie...the flower of life....the seed of life.

I do need to start watching Stargate more

BROOK · 01-20-2010, 09:05 PM

I will also add, that the information I have is from my own source. And for me to convey it to you, would be like "channeling"...as I do not believe that giving information in that sense is helpful. The reason I say this is, you need to experience it for yourself. You need to get the information you seek from within you..and not from someone like me. It is secondhand...and is subject to being "believed". It is much better to hear and see if for yourself..as you will not question it when you ask for the validation of such information. Make sense? I hope so. As I am not a "channel", and by no means do I have all the answers

But I do have a piece of the PI

gita · 01-20-2010, 09:39 PM

You is funny Brook.

It always good though to direct people to information they seek.

Anyway, I need to apologise to Wilson for hijacking this thread. Lets get back to Ptah.

BROOK · 01-20-2010, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gita

You is funny Brook.

It always good though to direct people to information they seek.

Anyway, I need to apologize to Wilson for hijacking this thread. Lets get back to Ptah.

But questions you have raised are valid, and should be brought to light. So I don't believe you have hijacked the thread..but have brought up valid points of view....the very purpose of what it is to discuss any subject that is raised.

And the areas of discussion are of importance to the aligned thoughts of Ptah, and where his "creator" abilities were coming from, and what the purpose is...and the direction of the creator of this thread, and his questioning of Ptah, and what purpose Ptah has in alignment with what it is he seeks.

wilsonericq7 · 01-21-2010, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BROOK

But questions you have raised are valid, and should be brought to light. So I don't believe you have hijacked the thread..but have brought up valid points of view....the very purpose of what it is to discuss any subject that is raised.

And the areas of discussion are of importance to the aligned thoughts of Ptah, and where his "creator" abilities were coming from, and what the purpose is...and the direction of the creator of this thread, and his questioning of Ptah, and what purpose Ptah has in alignment with what it is he seeks.

Well said...and thanks for the great read!

BROOK · 01-21-2010, 02:58 AM

Ptah the Mason's and The Pyramids

1st degree tracing board

It shows the pleiades pointing to the star of Ra. Then down from this is Jacobs' ladder. It also shows the pillars (struts) that Ptah made.

Building the Pyramids
An Overall Plan Spanning Four Generations:

There must have been some incredible incentive, some driving impulse or insight that instigated
such massive undertakings that strained the whole population of Egypt. The undertaking enlisted the
cooperation and support of the whole populace.
inconsistent with forced labor on such a scale.
There are specific relationships between the
pyramids, their geometry, and their history, to clearly suggest this.

Squaring the Circle

The circle suggests a time-like dynamic principle whereas a straight line of fixed length suggests
a static extension in space. Hence the tools of the sacred geometry were the ruler and compass.
And one way to reconcile the two is to draw the square whose perimeter is the same as the
perimeter of a circle. It is called squaring the circle.
There was an interesting book published by John Michell, City of Revelation, 1972. In it he
explores many correspondences between esoteric subjects, from St. John’s revelation of the New
Jerusalem, to the ground plan of Glastonbury Abbey, to Stonehenge, to the Great Pyramid, to
gematria, to ancient systems of measure, and so on. Without going into the sense or reliability of all
of them, a few salient features stand out as undeniable, and that deserve review.
A central theme of Michell’s book is that there was a sacred geometry that was passed down
through works in stone as a secret tradition of masonry. It may be connected to the establishment of
the Masonic Lodge but the connection is lost in the mists of history somewhere in the Middle Ages
along with the sacred geometry associated with it. Nevertheless the emblem of the Masonic Lodge
is the ruler and compass.
There is a common feature of the creative process that does not make rational sense. If we
draw a circle on a piece of paper the diameter of the circle can not be measured completely
accurately in the same units used to measure the circumference, and vice versa, and yet the circle is
clearly there on the page. For this reason the ratio between diameter and circumference, known as
Pi, is called an irrational number. It has no completely discrete value. It goes on for ever and ever
with no discernible pattern to the endless sequence of numbers. The diameter and circumference
are said to be incommensurable. It is like the indeterminacy principle of quantum mechanics where
the static position and dynamic momentum of a moving particle can never be known accurately
together.
The Great Pyramid is thus a monumental example of squaring the circle, since its height is
related to the perimeter of its base by the ratio 2 Pi. In this sense it is a monument that reconciles
subjective spiritual dynamics to objective spatial regularities.
Squaring the circle is often dismissed by academics as simply impossible since Pi is an
irrational number, but they miss the point. The point is that the linear regularities of space are
reconciled with the cyclic dynamics of the heavens through living processes. And the heavens are
dominated by circular motions. The universe is a throbbing living reality. That was the theme of the
sacred geometry.

As Michell points out, if we draw a scale diagram of the earth and moon so that they are
touching, and enclose each in a square, a surprising relationship becomes obvious. It is illustrated in
the diagram. The triangle with apex at the center of the moon and base across the diameter of the earth has
the same proportions as the Great Pyramid of Khufu. The circle scribed through the center of the
moon concentric with the earth has a circumference equal to the square that contains the earth to an
accuracy of 0.0588%. The earth radius of 6,378 km and moon radius of 1,738 km are taken from
standard reference tables. They could be out by that much given the irregularities of the earth and
moon surfaces. So the dimensions of Earth and Moon themselves represent squaring the circle.
Also the triangle that joins the square of the moon to the square of the earth has sides in the ratio of
3, 4, and 5. This same ratio corresponds to the slope of Khafra’s pyramid
Michell also points out that the two concentric circles are in the
same proportion as the blues tone and sarsen circles of Stonehenge.
It is a remarkable coincidence that the actual dimensions of Earth and Moon correspond to
squaring the circle.

01-20-2010, 09:05 PM	#12
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: What do you know of Ptah? I will also add, that the information I have is from my own source. And for me to convey it to you, would be like "channeling"...as I do not believe that giving information in that sense is helpful. The reason I say this is, you need to experience it for yourself. You need to get the information you seek from within you..and not from someone like me. It is secondhand...and is subject to being "believed". It is much better to hear and see if for yourself..as you will not question it when you ask for the validation of such information. Make sense? I hope so. As I am not a "channel", and by no means do I have all the answers But I do have a piece of the PI Last edited by BROOK; 01-21-2010 at 03:07 AM.

01-20-2010, 09:39 PM	#13
gita Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Plymouth, UK Posts: 516	Re: What do you know of Ptah? You is funny Brook. It always good though to direct people to information they seek. Anyway, I need to apologise to Wilson for hijacking this thread. Lets get back to Ptah.

01-21-2010, 02:58 AM	#16
BROOK Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3,117	Re: What do you know of Ptah? *Ptah the Mason's and The Pyramids* *1st degree tracing board* It shows the pleiades pointing to the star of Ra. Then down from this is Jacobs' ladder. It also shows the pillars (struts) that Ptah made. Building the Pyramids An Overall Plan Spanning Four Generations: There must have been some incredible incentive, some driving impulse or insight that instigated such massive undertakings that strained the whole population of Egypt. The undertaking enlisted the cooperation and support of the whole populace. inconsistent with forced labor on such a scale. There are specific relationships between the pyramids, their geometry, and their history, to clearly suggest this. Squaring the Circle The circle suggests a time-like dynamic principle whereas a straight line of fixed length suggests a static extension in space. Hence the tools of the sacred geometry were the ruler and compass. And one way to reconcile the two is to draw the square whose perimeter is the same as the perimeter of a circle. It is called squaring the circle. There was an interesting book published by John Michell, City of Revelation, 1972. In it he explores many correspondences between esoteric subjects, from St. John’s revelation of the New Jerusalem, to the ground plan of Glastonbury Abbey, to Stonehenge, to the Great Pyramid, to gematria, to ancient systems of measure, and so on. Without going into the sense or reliability of all of them, a few salient features stand out as undeniable, and that deserve review. A central theme of Michell’s book is that there was a sacred geometry that was passed down through works in stone as a secret tradition of masonry. It may be connected to the establishment of the Masonic Lodge but the connection is lost in the mists of history somewhere in the Middle Ages along with the sacred geometry associated with it. Nevertheless the emblem of the Masonic Lodge is the ruler and compass. There is a common feature of the creative process that does not make rational sense. If we draw a circle on a piece of paper the diameter of the circle can not be measured completely accurately in the same units used to measure the circumference, and vice versa, and yet the circle is clearly there on the page. For this reason the ratio between diameter and circumference, known as Pi, is called an irrational number. It has no completely discrete value. It goes on for ever and ever with no discernible pattern to the endless sequence of numbers. The diameter and circumference are said to be incommensurable. It is like the indeterminacy principle of quantum mechanics where the static position and dynamic momentum of a moving particle can never be known accurately together. The Great Pyramid is thus a monumental example of squaring the circle, since its height is related to the perimeter of its base by the ratio 2 Pi. In this sense it is a monument that reconciles subjective spiritual dynamics to objective spatial regularities. Squaring the circle is often dismissed by academics as simply impossible since Pi is an irrational number, but they miss the point. The point is that the linear regularities of space are reconciled with the cyclic dynamics of the heavens through living processes. And the heavens are dominated by circular motions. The universe is a throbbing living reality. That was the theme of the sacred geometry. As Michell points out, if we draw a scale diagram of the earth and moon so that they are touching, and enclose each in a square, a surprising relationship becomes obvious. It is illustrated in the diagram. The triangle with apex at the center of the moon and base across the diameter of the earth has the same proportions as the Great Pyramid of Khufu. The circle scribed through the center of the moon concentric with the earth has a circumference equal to the square that contains the earth to an accuracy of 0.0588%. The earth radius of 6,378 km and moon radius of 1,738 km are taken from standard reference tables. They could be out by that much given the irregularities of the earth and moon surfaces. So the dimensions of Earth and Moon themselves represent squaring the circle. Also the triangle that joins the square of the moon to the square of the earth has sides in the ratio of 3, 4, and 5. This same ratio corresponds to the slope of Khafra’s pyramid Michell also points out that the two concentric circles are in the same proportion as the blues tone and sarsen circles of Stonehenge. It is a remarkable coincidence that the actual dimensions of Earth and Moon correspond to squaring the circle.