Devon and Cornwall people!!

[Kulapops]

Hi Leeboy, welcome to D & C !

Rhythm - you managed to get that picture on your avatar after all ... neat

I agree with what you say Leeboy... that we must keep a positive attitude. In fact a few weeks ago, I was thinking along the lines that you mention... water... grouping together, working out how to survive...

But lately I've been changing my mind about that a bit. I think that there are some 'holes' in the survival logic (imo) and it's just something I'm weighing up right now. But it seems to me, that as far as one goes to be 'prepared' in that post apocalyptic scenario, there's a step further that someone else can go that puts one's plans to nothing.

For example, you grow your own veggies on dartmoor.... someone comes and finds them and pinches them. So you set a patrol ? someone comes and nobbles the patrol ? Anything you own, you then have to protect from those that don't own it and maybe looking for it.

So maybe the real (r)evolution for me is when it gradually dawns on everyone that we're all in this (planet) together... and actually the only way forward is for people to see that everyone needs help, or at least our core values need to change for all . And that is the sticking point for me with 'survival', because it seems largely concerned with the individual or an individual group. (yes.. I've thought too about hiding out with others till 'the worst is over' but that's a future that gives in to fear too... )

The difficulty theoretically for me with that scenario is that you end up 'preserving' a section of the population who's core values are in fact not much different from the society they then go on to replace. See what I mean? Even if they are more enlightened, if they are thinking, if we got to think even for a second 'sc*w everyone else who ain't prepared'...then we're no different..and we'll ultimately just have a new elite group before too long, with probably even more barbaric rules.

I don't know this site that well, but I'm guessing from what I've seen that this is a line that roughly divides two schools of thought. The lets get prepared and the lets wake everybody up. Ok, maybe I'm not clever enough to paraphrase what this site is about.. but maybe you get my drift.

No kidding, I bought a fishing line and some hooks...got some matches, got a nice pair of walking boots (If I got nothing else from October 7th ). But I also started thinking too, as you've written...

"Unfortunately we may all have to become people we dont like in order to get through this and survive." - Or in my case... there's a lot of stuff I'm going to have to do... or my life is going to become miserable... and I'm going to have to exist while people are in a whole lot of trouble... but I'll be alright...

And then I started thinking... 'but then I wouldn't be me anymore.'. I've lived my life so far always considering others, and if someone else is in pain or hurt (even emotionally) then I feel that dissonance. (god help me then when everyone's running round like in Debenhams on Boxing Day )

And I thought... hang on... is this my fear of what could happen to me talking?. There is no need to be afraid in life - unless it's actually happening to me right now. In which case my natural instincts will kick in. Run, jump, fight, or go see a movie.

Being afraid can also become a way of life, and I now notice with reading a lot on this subject of all the evil plans that are possibly out there against me, that that's exactly what had started to happen for me.

So now I'm swinging back the other way. towards trust and faith. Faith in us, that is everyone, faith in those who are waking up sooner than some others, faith in the planet, faith in 'the force' or whatever you will.

Maybe I'll be one of the first swept out with the tide .

But I think the work of connection here with like and unlike minds is the real important work, of discussion and understanding of point of view.. and yes... meeting people for real too.

Here at D&C it's a very interesting time ! (btw who said 'may you live in interesting times' ? - looks like we got our wish !)

look forward to getting to know you all, new arrivals and old posters alike...

peace n love

K

P.S. can I plug my thread on fear in the spirituality section ?? (which was a turning point for me... ) http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=5475

It's not half as popular as

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=3594



P.P.S Sorry about the inordinately long post (doesn't he just go on.. and on... and on.... ????). But perhaps like some of you, I'm new to all of this and finding my way as I go. I'll get snappier, promise !

[leeboy]

Originally Posted by Kulapops

Hi Leeboy, welcome to D & C !

Rhythm - you managed to get that picture on your avatar after all ... neat

I agree with what you say Leeboy... that we must keep a positive attitude. In fact a few weeks ago, I was thinking along the lines that you mention... water... grouping together, working out how to survive...

But lately I've been changing my mind about that a bit. I think that there are some 'holes' in the survival logic (imo) and it's just something I'm weighing up right now. But it seems to me, that as far as one goes to be 'prepared' in that post apocalyptic scenario, there's a step further that someone else can go that puts one's plans to nothing.

For example, you grow your own veggies on dartmoor.... someone comes and finds them and pinches them. So you set a patrol ? someone comes and nobbles the patrol ? Anything you own, you then have to protect from those that don't own it and maybe looking for it.

So maybe the real (r)evolution for me is when it gradually dawns on everyone that we're all in this (planet) together... and actually the only way forward is for people to see that everyone needs help, or at least our core values need to change for all . And that is the sticking point for me with 'survival', because it seems largely concerned with the individual or an individual group. (yes.. I've thought too about hiding out with others till 'the worst is over' but that's a future that gives in to fear too... )

The difficulty theoretically for me with that scenario is that you end up 'preserving' a section of the population who's core values are in fact not much different from the society they then go on to replace. See what I mean? Even if they are more enlightened, if they are thinking, if we got to think even for a second 'sc*w everyone else who ain't prepared'...then we're no different..and we'll ultimately just have a new elite group before too long, with probably even more barbaric rules.

I don't know this site that well, but I'm guessing from what I've seen that this is a line that roughly divides two schools of thought. The lets get prepared and the lets wake everybody up. Ok, maybe I'm not clever enough to paraphrase what this site is about.. but maybe you get my drift.

No kidding, I bought a fishing line and some hooks...got some matches, got a nice pair of walking boots (If I got nothing else from October 7th ). But I also started thinking too, as you've written...

"Unfortunately we may all have to become people we dont like in order to get through this and survive." - Or in my case... there's a lot of stuff I'm going to have to do... or my life is going to become miserable... and I'm going to have to exist while people are in a whole lot of trouble... but I'll be alright...

And then I started thinking... 'but then I wouldn't be me anymore.'. I've lived my life so far always considering others, and if someone else is in pain or hurt (even emotionally) then I feel that dissonance. (god help me then when everyone's running round like in Debenhams on Boxing Day )

And I thought... hang on... is this my fear of what could happen to me talking?. There is no need to be afraid in life - unless it's actually happening to me right now. In which case my natural instincts will kick in. Run, jump, fight, or go see a movie.

Being afraid can also become a way of life, and I now notice with reading a lot on this subject of all the evil plans that are possibly out there against me, that that's exactly what had started to happen for me.

So now I'm swinging back the other way. towards trust and faith. Faith in us, that is everyone, faith in those who are waking up sooner than some others, faith in the planet, faith in 'the force' or whatever you will.

Maybe I'll be one of the first swept out with the tide .

But I think the work of connection here with like and unlike minds is the real important work, of discussion and understanding of point of view.. and yes... meeting people for real too.

Here at D&C it's a very interesting time ! (btw who said 'may you live in interesting times' ? - looks like we got our wish !)

look forward to getting to know you all, new arrivals and old posters alike...

peace n love

K

P.S. can I plug my thread on fear in the spirituality section ?? (which was a turning point for me... ) http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=5475

It's not half as popular as

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=3594



P.P.S Sorry about the inordinately long post (doesn't he just go on.. and on... and on.... ????). But perhaps like some of you, I'm new to all of this and finding my way as I go. I'll get snappier, promise !

I completely agree with you the only down side of what your saying is that although having an enlightened view is the key, we only number in the few. A person on their own can be a rational thinking creature, a large group of people under intense fear and pressure become a dangerous pack fear feeds fear and hate feeds hate. My main thinking is to be somewhere safe until things calm down so we can then all come together and move forward both physically and spiritually which is the ultimate goal for ALL of us, please dont think im some sort of mad max survival nut, im just trying to priorortise the important things first and to me and alot of others on here survival is the first priority. IF this happens (hopefully it wont) society will show its true colours we already have gangs prowling the streets that have little if no respect for law if that law was taken away then what state would our streets be in then?
Just a thought

[Kulapops]

Originally Posted by leeboy

My main thinking is to be somewhere safe until things calm down so we can then all come together and move forward both physically and spiritually which is the ultimate goal for ALL of us,

I agree with you and Caladan, and I imagine I'm not the only one to be wondering, 'where exactly would I go and who would I go with?'

I used to think even before all this stuff kicked-off that there may come a time where there would be disarray and some people would gather together and build a new start out of the mess. Those that were really interested in humankind, maybe we'd get a second chance to do things better.

So the idea of keeping safe out of harm's way is a good one. People will go nuts at the drop of a hat, such is the mass mentality unfortunately.

It's great that we have the chance to discuss sensibly here what the options could be and what we might do in that event.

But having done a bit of the 'what if' thinking and possible scenarios to prepare for for the last couple of months, it was starting not to ring true for me - this can also be a totally addictive world to immerse oneself in - as the possibilities are endless - and every day you read stuff that makes your heart sink further. That's starting to make me wonder about the whole thing.

I'm just throwing into the pot the notion that we can change hearts and minds as we go rather than count on a tumble that may not actually happen and that might be something to visualise instead. I'm not against talk of being prepared or of linking up with likeminded souls. I think this site has great potential, and who knows, they may cut the cord to the internet one day - great if there are already connections growing between the hearts of people when that time comes.

Great that we've got such keen minds in the D & C thread as yourselves thinking on the possiblities. I hope we'll get another meet soon.

peace n love n a martini

Hi all
I see a lot of people from devon and cornwall on here but is there anyone from the looe area, moving there soon and would be nice to know..

What no one around looe??

This is shocking, maybe i will have to start one then eh...

[Caladan]

Hi donny.
Not near there myself but welcome to the forum anyhow.

[Kulapops]

Hi Donny !

Welcome to the D&C social

NIce place, Looe. Not a hundred million miles from 'the bay'. Great fish and chip shop... ideal meeting point for hungry posters to gather at and point chips at one another whilst expounding their theories and knowledge.

See you there someday.

peace n love and a great big welcome,



K

[leeboy]

Originally Posted by Kulapops

Hi Leeboy, welcome to D & C !

Rhythm - you managed to get that picture on your avatar after all ... neat

I agree with what you say Leeboy... that we must keep a positive attitude. In fact a few weeks ago, I was thinking along the lines that you mention... water... grouping together, working out how to survive...

But lately I've been changing my mind about that a bit. I think that there are some 'holes' in the survival logic (imo) and it's just something I'm weighing up right now. But it seems to me, that as far as one goes to be 'prepared' in that post apocalyptic scenario, there's a step further that someone else can go that puts one's plans to nothing.

For example, you grow your own veggies on dartmoor.... someone comes and finds them and pinches them. So you set a patrol ? someone comes and nobbles the patrol ? Anything you own, you then have to protect from those that don't own it and maybe looking for it.

So maybe the real (r)evolution for me is when it gradually dawns on everyone that we're all in this (planet) together... and actually the only way forward is for people to see that everyone needs help, or at least our core values need to change for all . And that is the sticking point for me with 'survival', because it seems largely concerned with the individual or an individual group. (yes.. I've thought too about hiding out with others till 'the worst is over' but that's a future that gives in to fear too... )

The difficulty theoretically for me with that scenario is that you end up 'preserving' a section of the population who's core values are in fact not much different from the society they then go on to replace. See what I mean? Even if they are more enlightened, if they are thinking, if we got to think even for a second 'sc*w everyone else who ain't prepared'...then we're no different..and we'll ultimately just have a new elite group before too long, with probably even more barbaric rules.

I don't know this site that well, but I'm guessing from what I've seen that this is a line that roughly divides two schools of thought. The lets get prepared and the lets wake everybody up. Ok, maybe I'm not clever enough to paraphrase what this site is about.. but maybe you get my drift.

No kidding, I bought a fishing line and some hooks...got some matches, got a nice pair of walking boots (If I got nothing else from October 7th ). But I also started thinking too, as you've written...

"Unfortunately we may all have to become people we dont like in order to get through this and survive." - Or in my case... there's a lot of stuff I'm going to have to do... or my life is going to become miserable... and I'm going to have to exist while people are in a whole lot of trouble... but I'll be alright...

And then I started thinking... 'but then I wouldn't be me anymore.'. I've lived my life so far always considering others, and if someone else is in pain or hurt (even emotionally) then I feel that dissonance. (god help me then when everyone's running round like in Debenhams on Boxing Day )

And I thought... hang on... is this my fear of what could happen to me talking?. There is no need to be afraid in life - unless it's actually happening to me right now. In which case my natural instincts will kick in. Run, jump, fight, or go see a movie.

Being afraid can also become a way of life, and I now notice with reading a lot on this subject of all the evil plans that are possibly out there against me, that that's exactly what had started to happen for me.

So now I'm swinging back the other way. towards trust and faith. Faith in us, that is everyone, faith in those who are waking up sooner than some others, faith in the planet, faith in 'the force' or whatever you will.

Maybe I'll be one of the first swept out with the tide .

But I think the work of connection here with like and unlike minds is the real important work, of discussion and understanding of point of view.. and yes... meeting people for real too.

Here at D&C it's a very interesting time ! (btw who said 'may you live in interesting times' ? - looks like we got our wish !)

look forward to getting to know you all, new arrivals and old posters alike...

peace n love

K

P.S. can I plug my thread on fear in the spirituality section ?? (which was a turning point for me... ) http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=5475

It's not half as popular as

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=3594



P.P.S Sorry about the inordinately long post (doesn't he just go on.. and on... and on.... ????). But perhaps like some of you, I'm new to all of this and finding my way as I go. I'll get snappier, promise !

Just a quick note to my first response to your post. If you havent already i urge you to watch bill deagle: prognosis for planet earth (project camelot) pay particular attention to what he says in the last 15 mins of part three, but if you have the time watch the whole thing as it is very worrying, informative but sent chills through my soul

[Kulapops]

Hi Leeboy,

Thanks for the headsup on camelot. Yep... they've been quiet for ages and now there's a whole bunch of stuff to watch again.

I'll take a look... yep.. I was one who was up plonking on the keyboard when his 'phonecall' got posted. I think that was a turning point for me.

I didn't post it at the time, because I didn't want to add to anyone's worries, but I had a dream earlier this year in which I was walking down a highway of stopped cars, with people milling about, some burned cars too.

When Deagle started talking about nuclear attacks in LA I thought...ooh... wow... oh no... I felt really worried and a bit helpless.

But I'm not the only one to have noticed that the vibration has changed since then. I'm not going to worry anymore about all the bad things that can happen to me.

And you know why? Because, one day I'll die anyway. I could be run over by a bus...I could be caught in in a nuclear holocaust and have forgotten to buy iodine...either way... it's how I live today that matters and for the moment, I'm striking a balance for me between connecting with people and myself , which I believe is more key to the 'ground crew' issue... and less on watching another doomygloomy scenario.

I'm not saying that these whistleblowers/information is not correct, it may well be... but I'm starting to think that we are being distracted away from what is really going on. There ! - another conspiracy for ya

While we are running/preparing and being fearful, we are perhaps not noticing the awakening connections between us and each other.

For eg. ..think of a number between 1 and 10.....




was is 6 ?


ok, wait... I'll try again....


3?

Oh.. never mind... I'll get the hang eventually.... thanks for your info...I will take a look this weekend....

love

K

[Kulapops]

Notice that the 'K's posts are getting shorter... hopefully....

Including this one :

2nd meeting of the D&C .... lol.... what do you mean you weren't invited ??

Ok sorry... but just wanted to post the fact here that I very spontaneously managed a quick half of guinnes with Rhythm in Kingsbridge yesterday.

I'm not really the organiser of this thread, so maybe Mikey ? will want to get involved with organising a big meet for us all...

But in the meantime, I think it's fun if at least some of us manage to meet (even if it's only two people) that you post something about it on here. that way, we'll all benefit from the feeling that something is happening.

Surely, in the end , that's what this thread is about ?

we don't all live that close together, but some of us live near to others and even if those people meet and post here then at least something is going on.

Anyone ever organise a company works do ?? they're a nightmare. Try getting 8 people together can be a bind. I think more likely that we'll coalesce like droplets of water on a window pane.

Slowly at first...but eventually the D&C will be as one globule running down the window of life

[rhythm]

yes me and kulla had too halfs , and we do plan to get married soon , when he has finished painting the house ,
well we may just live together 4 awhile , so see what happens whae you get off your little botts and meet up with a complete stanger,humm.
now seriousley , or maby not ,its was great to have another mate and to meet somone in real life , cos forum can take on some wierd kinda virtual life
hmmm.:rm_robot hope to get rael with the rest of yer , love and respect .
rhythmmmm.

[Caladan]

I look forward to a meeting. Lets make it happen.

[Kulapops]

Hi all,

I agree with Caladan... anyone got any thoughts on a decent meeting place and time that more of us can get to?



What would be an 'equidistant' location for all?



I think anyone who's up for a meeting - pub, marsh or fish and chip shop should write in here (you're already subscribed to this thread , of course?) with suggestions as to location and then maybe we can pick a point near where the majority who want to meet are.



Sound fair?

Mikey, do you want to comment?

Peace n love

K

[Caladan]

I'm not really familiar with many places in dc, or distance between towns. But I do know plymouth a little bit which is a bit of a way form me and hopefully close to you guys, but i really don't mind where is best. I'm sure i'll do my best to get to a meet.

[leeboy]

Hiya peeps!!
Sorry been off the air for a while im in the process of rediscovering astral projection, i say rediscovering because this is something we can all do we ahve just "forgotten", hope we are all well glad we have some new members, to my friend "K", the trouble with dealing with all of the information we are interested in then we all run the risk of becomming a bit paranoid and start seeing conspiricies all over the place. The best bet i think is to judge all the information on your gut instinct, its NEVER let me down, but just look at the news at the minute, its all pointing towards a global currency that will mean one world government, i feel we have reached a critical mass point regarding all of what we know, i think the time to prevent certain plans has long gone we are at the junction point for which timeline we end up on and there is not enough of us prepared mentally or spiritually to either:
A, spread the word so to speak
B, change the course of what is comming
i feel deep down inside that we are on our own with this current situation on the world stage, there will be no intervention to protect us for one reason. If after thousands of years on this beautiful planet we STILL havent learned to realise we are destined for something far better and wonderous, we still havent learned our true potential, we still bicker and argue and fight over the most trivial of things, this has been caused by our inability to see that the ones we choose to sit in positions of power, the men and women who run vast multi national corporations, and the banking sector have us all by the balls. We have lost sight of our self given right to something far far far greater than what we call "the real world", this planet is a testing ground for us, for our souls and spirits. Bill Deagle spoke in his phone interview of the fact that money can be likened to life blood, we work to live to earn money, The dark powers that are operating at the moment needed a blood sacrifice, or a monetary sacrifice.
We have caused our own down fall due to our lack of faith in ourselves and the human race, we have put up with second best, we have done what is considered to be the right thing because it has been drummed into our heads since birth. WHO decided that we need money? WHAT is money? WHO decided that we have to go out to work 6 or 7 days a week? WHO dictates what is broadcast on tv, radio in the media? WHO are the faceless few we have handed our destiny and birthright to without a fight? IF someone came onto your proerty with a view to harm you or to relive you of possesions etc you WOULD do something about it. So WHY havent we done something about the world power elites they are doing exactly this. They limit our travel ability with extortionate fuel prices (those of you who say fuel prices are falling, how much did it cost to fill your car last year?), they limit our social interaction by making staying at home a far more interesting idea, (the smoking ban, the incredible drink deals that supermarkets offer, the change in the licence law which meant pubs clubs etc had to have different licences and permissions to offer entertainment which all cost money, money that the pubs dont have because thier cutomer base has dwindled to nothing), why are they keeping us apart, when people get together they talk, they make conclusions for themselves, they view information from many different perspectives, they CONNECT with one another.
THIS is what they want to prevent, if we connect then our journey would actually move on we would learn more about ourselves as a race, we would put differences aside and respect one another, they are keeping us down on purpose under their heel so to speak. If you cant see this by now then they have done their job very very well. Maybe certain things put on Camelot are a lesson in misdirection, but you just have to look outside your window, to view the news between the lines to see and understand we are in alot of trouble. I have written an awful lot and for those of you still reading, i thank you, i dont have any answers all i can offer is we must all listen to that little voice in the back of our heads, the little voice that has been drowned out by the sound of "modern", lives, this is the voice of truth, of gut instinct, of our own souls. we have to start taking back that which we have given away freely. listen to the voice within and let it guide you, maybe if it can become loud enough we will ALL hear it and remember our path, we can make our own future its time to drag ourselves out of the shackles that we put on ourselves THEY will only have power for as long as we give it to them.
Thank you for your time and think about what i have written.
Without power they are useless.

[leeboy]

Where the hell is the ground crew??!!!

[Kulapops]

Hopefully not in Hell !

Hiya Leeboy. I'm here. I'm looking in from time to time. No one has posted except yourself and Caladan since I suggested people chucking in ideas about where they want to meet, if at all...

there have been thousands of views of this thread (it's probably from ten people or so checking in regularly )

There has been no sign of Mikey since mid October.

If anyone from Devon and Cornwall are checking in here, perhaps it's worth saying hello again. I've not posted because nothing has changed since my last post - and the last thing you want is me jarring on and on about the weather in a place that is really about hookups (i think).

I did read your post and there's a lot of information in there , as there is also in other places about the forum. I agree with a lot of what you say, but for my part, I am done worrying about anything for the moment. I'm happy to connect with people (physically or otherwise) and I think the loss of community is a problem in today's society.

Gloom and doom aside, if people can connect on some level, then the world will become a better place, in my view.

Glad that you are still looking in on the D&C crew...

peace n love

K

P.S. I can get to Plymouth if there's interest to meet there. No problem.

[Caladan]

Hi everyone,

As you may of heard, the Project Avalon forum is going to be transformed into a subscription based site. I feel for the Camelot team as their work can be costly and they do need a means of support but I do not agree with the subscription.

Camelot does need support and I hope everything works out, they have helped me a great deal and their work is invaluable. But I feel they need to find an alternative form of means and support and not force us to pay a subscription to keep us together. As they said in the announcement "Project Avalon costs almost nothing to host" .

I believed in a free and open enviroment for us to chat and come together, so I will not be paying a subscription and therefore no longer be in contact with this site. Sorry guys but i feel very strongly about this. Anyone that wants to keep contact with me, feel free to send me an email and I'll add you to my address book. michaelwilliamprobert@sky.com

Best Wishes

[Strandloper]

Firstly ..Hi there Leeboy and welcome.

Hi Everyone,


Just checking in.and will be every so often untill I decide if i'm going to pay subscription or not.
Just like to add, that I think as with most places where answers are saught, more questions will arise. So..for the most..... I see that most here are searchers who are earnestly and honestly seeking something other than what the the governed world is offering (which is pretty shabby aint it). So very far from any kind of spiritual utopia we are, yet I feel it is mankinds (our) only possible destination. We are not a unified species with a common purpose, the strong victimise the weak and there is so much injustice in a world where the the masses (we) are being governed from a very lowly level.
Okay, not going into a long one here..so......to keep it short and sweet just want to say that in my view, places like Avalon , Camelot.. etc.etc and all of the many truthseeking websites out there, offer us only signposts ..while the real path is sought within.
Will add one more thing that I totally back up what Kerry and Bill are going on about, and that is that we are constantly creating the future. I mean if any one was following Dan Burisch's tetimony via Looking glass technology, none of the futures have panned out that were seen (that's if you believe in all that) I'm not a skeptic but contrarily believe in infinate possibility ...and that maybe we will all end up in a world that we individually think or believe that we should.
I'm definately on the verge of rambling on so I will stop.
May the spirit illuminate .. and better still .. enlighten you.
Peaceful vibrations to all here at the D&C.
Strand

(or the saturday night rambler)

[Kulapops]

Originally Posted by Strandloper

Firstly ..Hi there Leeboy and welcome.

I'm not a skeptic but contrarily believe in infinate possibility ...and that maybe we will all end up in a world that we individually think or believe that we should.

Hi there leeboy and Strand.

Thanks for the post, Strand, I agree with you. This whole universe as I perceive it might just be responding to my consciousness, where I end up might just be down to me !

Do you realise we may be the last three amigos of the D&C ??!

Rhythm has gone/going Caladan has said his farewell. Mikey's not been seen since October.

The heat has gone out of this slightly. People don't like a peril they don't know, but seem reasonably ok with one that unfolds in front of them. Take the recession for example. Now that something bad is happening, people seem alright with the idea of hunkering down and getting on with it.

I hope it stops there. Maybe it will, maybe the future will be positive. I hope so.

I too am considering the subscription. This is my first eveer forum, so some slight emotional input here...it would be a shame to give up entirely. But I'm not sad about spending less time here. It was beginning to muck up my day !

I will probably check the site occasionally, as I'm sure caladan and Rythm will be unable to resist too, so keep posting (that is, if you've subscribed ! lol) or don't . It's your life Time to live it.