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[Princess Mew Mew]

Originally Posted by ctophil

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The Holy Scriptures were not meant to be taken out of context by taking out a few verses here and there and make your own interpretation. It is not of your own or private interpretation. It is Yahweh's Spirit's interpretation, and He will reveal the truth to you if you follow Him with everything you have. I also rely on Yahweh's Spirit to guide me many times as I research. I have a VERY intensive prayer life and relationship with the Father, which is in Heaven. In fact, there was one night when I made my usual prayer before going to bed when I finally called upon His true name. That night, He gave me an extremely POWERFUL dream that confirmed that what I have researched are correct. That is why I Love Him and Know that He blesses me with great wisdom and understanding of all scriptures and truth! I'm also a dreamer and have dreamed of many revelations from Yahweh throughout my life, especially recently. Revelation means to "reveal." I hope that helps.

-Phillip

Please, I mean no offense but I have some questions.. How do you know that Yahweh or Yahweh's spirit is guiding you? And how on Earth could you or anyone else prove this? What is 'REAL'? What is 'TRUTH'? Do we REALLY know these things? Or do things seem real because we feel? How do you know that Heaven exists as they say it does? Have you been there for 'REAL'? And if you have, could you ever possibly prove this to anyone?

And does Yahweh Judge? Most people I've encountered who follow RA say that he will Judge you. We judge ourselves and I think that it just isn't important to be arguing about Jesus or Yahweh or whoever.. All of us will know TRUTH when it is our time.

How is it that you can trust your dreams to be the truth? How do you know that it is Yahweh that is revealing the truth to you in prayer and in dream? I have had many terrible nightmares, as realistic as it can get. Seeing the end of the world, seeing Satan himself, or all so I 'thought'. But I have not turned these dreams into belief. Have you turned yours? And why? For comfort?

I appreciate your patience. Once again, please, I mean no offense If you could answer my questions that would be most appreciated. Thanks

[ctophil]

Originally Posted by Princess Mew Mew

Please, I mean no offense but I have some questions.. How do you know that Yahweh or Yahweh's spirit is guiding you? And how on Earth could you or anyone else prove this? What is 'REAL'? What is 'TRUTH'? Do we REALLY know these things? Or do things seem real because we feel? How do you know that Heaven exists as they say it does? Have you been there for 'REAL'? And if you have, could you ever possibly prove this to anyone?

And does Yahweh Judge? Most people I've encountered who follow RA say that he will Judge you. We judge ourselves and I think that it just isn't important to be arguing about Jesus or Yahweh or whoever.. All of us will know TRUTH when it is our time.

How is it that you can trust your dreams to be the truth? How do you know that it is Yahweh that is revealing the truth to you in prayer and in dream? I have had many terrible nightmares, as realistic as it can get. Seeing the end of the world, seeing Satan himself, or all so I 'thought'. But I have not turned these dreams into belief. Have you turned yours? And why? For comfort?

I appreciate your patience. Once again, please, I mean no offense If you could answer my questions that would be most appreciated. Thanks

Hi Princess Mew Mew,

Ah, don't worry those are certainly valid questions. There are certain doctrines and truths during my research that I would stay on for months at a time. During this time, I would consider many options. But the one that Yahweh wants me to stay on gets very heavy on my heart and conscious. He also shows me via dreams about certain doctrine and guides me with His messengers (another word for Angels). At times, He does speak to me directly through my heart via a powerful, spiritual voice that no one can hear but myself. Yahweh operates on an extremely "black and white" model. That means there are nothing in between the black and the white, no gray matter. There are nothing confusing when He wants to tell me something. He is not an Elohim (God) of confusion. So when I know these doctrines that are Truth, then I will teach it to others. Otherwise, I will continue to ask Him if this is what He wants me to know through prayer, fasting, and so forth.

Can I prove this to anyone? Yes and no. You see, Yahweh does not open to just anyone. He only opens to people He has chosen and that those people have chosen Him. As I said in other posts, Yahweh chooses you first (because you have a future that promises to love and obey Him all the way), and then you choose Him. Yahweh Elohim doesn't need to prove anything to anybody. That is a fact in scripture, and many things that He has done in my life. He just opens up His heart to those who love Him.

Now, you can probably see the "proof" in real life by hearing and seeing the miracles performed through the power of Yahweh, if you have ears to hear and eyes to see. He only perform miracles if they fulfill His will and that at least one of His true believers ask of Him something through the name of Yahushua. And when we ask Him something, it has to be a thought of righteousness, which means it can't be an act of selfishness or unholy actions. For example, I can't ask for money just so I can show off to my friends that Yahweh grants these things like a "genie in a bottle." That's not who He is. What most people perceive of the Father is a genie. They only ask Him things when difficulties in life start to come about. That is not a relationship. On the other hand, the Devil likes to prove things to people. So you will see that a lot. Yes, Satan can perform miracles, but you have to decipher its "fruits," if it is for evil or good.

I encounter 3 different types of dreams.

1. Normal Dreams - This is usually just a scene that my brain makes up. It's about my life, some event, or somebody else's life. Or it could be historic from years ago. It can also be a random, everyday event like going to school or work.

2. Nightmares - I used to get nightmares all the time. These are demonic and evil. Remember that all nightmares are from Satan or his minions. My nightmares range from somebody's death, attacks by demons, attacks by vicious animals, or attacks by some person/thing. I no longer have nightmares, since Yahweh has protected me from these. Please realize that I have had nightmares since I was a little kid. It only stopped early last year when I got close to my Father.

3. Heavenly Dreams from Yahweh - These have there own categories. Before these dreams occur, my body has a sudden surge of some energy, and I feel very blissful before and after the dream. These dreams I can remember for years and years. They are embedded in my spirit or something like that. These dreams always end up with a happy ending...and it glorifies Yahweh and His name at the end.

a. Visions of the Kingdom of Heaven (very beautiful and glorious scenery) - I had these when I was much younger, probably 10 - 15 years ago. There were a couple of recent ones too.
b. Visions of Prophecy - Some future events in real life that will happen in my lifetime. But these visions are only for me to understand, not for anybody else. Some of them are about my personal life, and others are about the future of mankind.
c. Visions of Scripture Interpretation - These explain certain scripture doctrine that I didn't understand while studying.
d. Visions of Faith - These are a test of faith. Because during these dreams, I am tested to my limit throwing impossible odds into my life, and I must depend on Yahweh throughout the dream to overcome. Examples would be getting stuck in the middle of the ocean and I have to get out of there through faith.
e. Visions of Flight - A recurring dream for the past 15 - 20 years. In this dream, I am hovering above ground ALL the time. I NEVER touch the ground. In every dream, I am in a different location on Earth, either it be at a mountain top, a forest, a parking lot, somebody's house, or a huge stadium setting. I can raise my body up into the air, but can't go very high. These dreams have come to a conclusion recently.

These dreams are not just comforting, but are VERY, VERY powerful. The feelings during and after will leave you with a taste of Heaven, not breathing hard and scared like nightmares. Colors, music, and sights you can not see on Earth and can't explain either. Now how can you doubt something like that? Not me I tell you that!

Oh I am sorry I forgot to answer about your judgment question. Yahweh is a just Elohim. And He will judge righteously. I will refer you to one of my posts earlier last week:

Originally Posted by ctophil

Hi Peer,

Do you want to see Yahweh's mercy? Well, let me show you something. First of all, most people know that the wages of sin is death. I'm sure that you have heard of Hell before in mainstream Christianity. Hell in Hebrew is called Sheol. Sheol means "The Grave." Hell is simply a place to dump dead bodies until when? The first or second resurrection. Hell is NOT and I repeat NOT a place of eternal torment. There's no such thing as a place of eternal torment. There is a place of eternal death. But that's a different issue. That's not what the Bible teaches. The Hell doctrine by Christians is a deceptive lie. Anyways, the point is that when you die, you are just completely dead (you are unconscious or sleeping) until He resurrects you. Then, you will be judged. You will be judged based on your works. Because you (just an example, I'm not saying just you) had little faith in Yahweh or no faith at all. He will give you another chance based on what you did.

To make a long story short, depending on the individual, Yahweh does give you another chance. But in finality, it is still up to you to choose. Remember one thing, He chooses you first before you choose Him. Just think about that for a minute. If He chose you, you were chosen because your future holds much obedience and love for Him.

-Phillip

-Phillip

[Allie]

In the same light of not wishing to offend a belief system, Phillip, can I ask another question?

I am assuming you will have made some study of the sciences at school - or even at a higher level - and so wonder how you reconcile your understanding of physics, chemistry, biology and Earth sciences to your understanding of Yahweh?

Assuming your system allows that Yahweh is the only creator, then it is must follow that Yahweh is also unfathomable in the sense that our most brilliant minds on earth have only scratched the surfaces of these sciences - which in turn are his creation.

You will forgive me, I hope, if I say that the Yahweh you describe appears a little perdantic, petty and perhaps even a little insecure since he appears to require such rigid obedience from an aspect of his creation (us) which must be rather tiny when viewed as a whole.

I cannot reconcile this Yahweh with a Creator whose brilliance (for lack of suitable words) is such that by comparison our minds must be somewhere around the level of an amoeba. How can such a mighty creator shrink down to a level whereby our belief system matters so much? Isn't that an insult to Yahweh - to assume he has mortal foibles?

Here is another perspective of Yahweh. And this is not to stir up another debate. It just goes to show that there are many perspectives of beliefs out there.

Alien Intelligences are written about all over the Bible and other ancient texts as 'angels', 'arch angels', God (Yahweh), gods, goddesses, Nephilim, and the Elohim (see "Anunnaki" link). The Old Testement is simply a condensed version of libraries full of ancient Sumerian and Hebrew text and tablets. They wrote about contact with the Lyrian, Pleiadian, and the Orion Anunnaki. The Lyrian lines are the origins of enlightenement. Many of these beings look just like us (except they're usually taller). These "human" types have many different branches of genetic lineage with features that range from Afro to Nordic (blonde haired). Most people already know a little about the Ancient Egyptian, Nordic, Mayan, and Greek "gods". Examples are: Shango the African (ORISHA) god of the lightning energy (an upline from Zulu), Enki , Zeus, Aphrodite, Quetzalquatl; the feathered serpent (worm hole) god, and Horus. People in the old world described them as traveling in what they called "chariots in the sky". The various types of "gods" are just alien races and the "chariots" were starships that they traveled with.

This was found here.

[ctophil]

Originally Posted by Allie

In the same light of not wishing to offend a belief system, Phillip, can I ask another question?

I am assuming you will have made some study of the sciences at school - or even at a higher level - and so wonder how you reconcile your understanding of physics, chemistry, biology and Earth sciences to your understanding of Yahweh?

Assuming your system allows that Yahweh is the only creator, then it is must follow that Yahweh is also unfathomable in the sense that our most brilliant minds on earth have only scratched the surfaces of these sciences - which in turn are his creation.

You will forgive me, I hope, if I say that the Yahweh you describe appears a little perdantic, petty and perhaps even a little insecure since he appears to require such rigid obedience from an aspect of his creation (us) which must be rather tiny when viewed as a whole.

I cannot reconcile this Yahweh with a Creator whose brilliance (for lack of suitable words) is such that by comparison our minds must be somewhere around the level of an amoeba. How can such a mighty creator shrink down to a level whereby our belief system matters so much? Isn't that an insult to Yahweh - to assume he has mortal foibles?

Hi Allie,

All the sciences, art, and studies are our ways of studying and discovering what Yahweh have created. Allow me to quote Arcora from another thread:

Originally Posted by arcora

There is a long history of scientists going full circle and realizing that science itself leads to God.

Albert Einstein was one.

To add to that, everything in this world leads to Yahweh. Because what you see, hear, touch, taste, and feel are the essences of my Father Yahweh. Let me lead you deeper into this understanding. Everything GLORIFIES Him one way or another. You may not know it. I may not know it. But it does glorify Him, some things are easier to see than others. This entire universe is in a incredible, incredible precise cycle. If one thing drops out from the picture, we would either die right away or die eventually. We can not survive. You and I are the glorification of Yahweh. We show His tremendous power, intelligence, and magnificence. Then, if you view who we are, we are a tiny, tiny, tiny, and TINY fraction of His brilliance as you have called it.

So how can such a mighty Creator shrink down to our level? There is the key. You wonder why people call Him the Almighty. Because He is capable of creating a vast universe our minds would explode if we even try to comprehend 1/trillionth of its incredible magnificence. But then....here is a whisper...He can also love and embrace something as small as a piece of sand. Did you realize that every day His thoughts about us are like the sands of the ocean? This is from scripture in the book of Psalms. He constantly thinks about us, about our well-being, our wants and desires, our thoughts (good or bad), our compassions, our past & future, our deeds, our passion, our likes and dislikes, our feelings, AND even the number of hairs on your head!

If He can do these things, He of course can contemplate our insignificant belief systems or whatever comes to mind.

-Phillip

[Allie]

Thanks for your reply, Phillip

I don't think it has answered my main question, though. I think perhaps you have misunderstood it

I was not saying that an Almighty being is unaware of us - and perhaps, as you say, in great detail. What I was saying is that if Yahweh is responsible for the creation and evolution of the Universe, it is reasonable to assume that he is similarly evolved in what we might term emotional intelligence and therefore does not share our mindset - given that it is mortal and probably rather feeble.

Let me draw an analogy, Phillip. If I find a colony of ants has invaded a room in my house I have an immediate understanding of their state. They, by contrast, have absolutely no idea I exist. They cannot possibly conceive the world in which I live with its homes, furniture, schools, technology and so on. Now, given that I am clearly more evolved than they are, would it be reasonable of me to expect them to 'know' me and my world and to punish them if they didn't? Wouldn't it be faintly ludicrous to make such demands of an ant?

Extrapolating from this analogy, I cannot conceive of an Almighty being who would punish me for being what I was - a mere mortal. It is unfathomable to me to conceive of an Almighty who would be remotely interested in whether or not I chose to attend a church, synagogue, mosque - or nowhere at all.

I have never quite understood an Almighty being who demands that you must believe in his son or you're toast. This diminishes his 'might' and confers an entirely worldly egotistical stance on him. For me, Phillip, this doesn't quite stack up

If he is Almighty, then his emotional intelligence must also be way beyond ours.

[ctophil]

Originally Posted by Allie

Thanks for your reply, Phillip

I don't think it has answered my main question, though. I think perhaps you have misunderstood it

I was not saying that an Almighty being is unaware of us - and perhaps, as you say, in great detail. What I was saying is that if Yahweh is responsible for the creation and evolution of the Universe, it is reasonable to assume that he is similarly evolved in what we might term emotional intelligence and therefore does not share our mindset - given that it is mortal and probably rather feeble.

Let me draw an analogy, Phillip. If I find a colony of ants has invaded a room in my house I have an immediate understanding of their state. They, by contrast, have absolutely no idea I exist. They cannot possibly conceive the world in which I live with its homes, furniture, schools, technology and so on. Now, given that I am clearly more evolved than they are, would it be reasonable of me to expect them to 'know' me and my world and to punish them if they didn't? Wouldn't it be faintly ludicrous to make such demands of an ant?

Extrapolating from this analogy, I cannot conceive of an Almighty being who would punish me for being what I was - a mere mortal. It is unfathomable to me to conceive of an Almighty who would be remotely interested in whether or not I chose to attend a church, synagogue, mosque - or nowhere at all.

I have never quite understood an Almighty being who demands that you must believe in his son or you're toast. This diminishes his 'might' and confers an entirely worldly egotistical stance on him. For me, Phillip, this doesn't quite stack up

If he is Almighty, then his emotional intelligence must also be way beyond ours.

Oh ok. I understand how you feel, Allie. You know, I used to think about the same thing. A few people I know have asked something similar to this before. Let me begin by saying this. Yahweh has a HUGE plan. His plan stretches before the times of Adam and Eve. Yes, this is in Bible scriptures. You just have to dig deeper. Anyways, His primary will is to build a family--a family surrounded by pure love, righteousness, selflessness, true peace (not the peace Satan wants you to perceive), and a world of no hunger, no tears, no wars, no sadness, and most important of all, no death. It's getting better. He wants us to inherit EVERYTHING He has created in the past, present, AND future! Hmm...can you think about that for a minute? Yes, that includes the Earth. Ok, it gets even better. He wants ALL of us (I'll get to this in a minute, why I said ALL) to enjoy and live freely with the knowledge, strength, and inheritance that He will give us. Best of all, He wants us to be with Him, living a life meant for you and me.

Father Yahweh (now I say He is also your Father as well, regardless if you acknowledge Him or not, but you can choose Satan as your Father) NEVER wants any of us to die and lose all of the above things I mentioned. That is not what He wants. Here is the rub...we can't live in His family if we choose to be rebellious and contradict His ways. Everything that you see and feel are His--His creations. There are things you can't see that He created. Allie, you can not live with Him if you don't follow His ways. It will never work out. For example, He would have to kick you out of the Kingdom of Heaven if you don't follow His rules when living under His roof. But here is the other rub, where would you go? Everything you see and feel are His Kingdom? The Kingdom of Heaven is coming here to Earth shortly. And you will see what I mean. The thing is that you can't inherit the Earth or anything else unless you become part of His family. Is that so much to ask for the gifts of love He will give you? One of those gifts are the most important one, Eternal Life. These gifts are not "tricks" to lure you to His Kingdom. They are expressions of His love. He created us for a reason. And I have just presented to you with that reason.

Hehe. Most people think that Yahweh is a "tyrant" or a "evil dictator" because He is so strict. Let me tell you something, it has been SO easy once I entered His arms of care. His so called strict rules and laws seem like a walk in the park by now. Don't see His judgment as punishment. Because it's not. In fact, He will give you another chance. This is NOT the only time He will give you a chance. He knows that, in some people's lives, most people will not get a chance to know Him by heart. However, your second chance will be a lot different. Father Yahweh will personally teach you and many others who He is and what He wants to give you. You will see this during the "Millennial Reign of Yahushua," which is the 1000 years rule of the Kingdom on Earth. This will happen very soon...in 3 - 4 years time. Read my snippet about "Hell" a few posts up. Because you see, He does know that we can't comprehend a lot of things. His thoughts are much, much higher than ours. You already know that. The only people who He will outright reject on judgment day are people who know the truth but pushes Him aside regardless. Furthermore, people who choose Satan and Evil over Him blatantly. One example would be the Illuminati and ones who call themselves, Elitists.

I hope that helps.

-Phillip

[GregorArturo]

Phillip, I would like to hear an answer from you in reference to my words. I am in no means of a competition, but otherwise I can only resolve that you are not able to contradict such philosophical truths.

And dreams, my friend, are only the first step. Just wait until you start having visions in a waking conscience. Try out some meditation, it can do wonders. And no one is doubting your dreams, but it sounds like you may be misinterpreting them as most dreams are not simply in black and white, but they speak in the language of the soul and that is through metaphors, just as in all the ancient scriptures speak in. And the three types you speak of, guess what? I experience them too, except I tend to phrase the heavenly dreams slightly different. And nightmares can be related just as much to the normal dreams. And if you were much more spiritually adept, you'd realize the difference between brain and mind, especially when referring to dreams.

And you want to talk about energy. I am holding up my hand right now, in a fully waking state, and it is absolutely full of energy, a ridiculous amount, as this energy is intelligent, it is conscienceness, and with the right open mind and practice, one can learn to commune with it without the use of say dreams or meditation.

I do not mean to be hostile if that seems to be the case, but your approach to things have been for the most part inappropriate and disrespectful at times. However I'm definitely hinting a sense of spiritual materialism in you: Ego pride. Many of us here have had our own unique and personal experiences, as you said with yourself: DO NOT DOUBT YOUR OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. However, each and every person has their own unique personal experiences. Remember that. I had a 100% success on remote viewing this week, and couldn't have nailed it more dead on. And it's by no means the first. I have had dreams of past lives and been revealed information that I should not know, but have confirmed it with current historical and archeological findings. I've supposedly even been visited by the Council of Saturn informing me of some of my role to play. However, does this make my experiences so powerful that I need to go around preaching them that this is the just creator speaking through me? That I am some divine wanderer here to save Humanity and bring them to salvation. I do not think so. We are one in the same, and I am no better than anyone else, neither are you. We all have a journey and a quest, and it is found within our own selves, as you have with your dreams.

Good luck with your journey.

[ctophil]

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

Phillip, I would like to hear an answer from you in reference to my words. I am in no means of a competition, but otherwise I can only resolve that you are not able to contradict such philosophical truths.

And dreams, my friend, are only the first step. Just wait until you start having visions in a waking conscience. Try out some meditation, it can do wonders. And no one is doubting your dreams, but it sounds like you may be misinterpreting them as most dreams are not simply in black and white, but they speak in the language of the soul and that is through metaphors, just as in all the ancient scriptures speak in. And the three types you speak of, guess what? I experience them too, except I tend to phrase the heavenly dreams slightly different. And nightmares can be related just as much to the normal dreams. And if you were much more spiritually adept, you'd realize the difference between brain and mind, especially when referring to dreams.

And you want to talk about energy. I am holding up my hand right now, in a fully waking state, and it is absolutely full of energy, a ridiculous amount, as this energy is intelligent, it is conscienceness, and with the right open mind and practice, one can learn to commune with it without the use of say dreams or meditation.

I do not mean to be hostile if that seems to be the case, but your approach to things have been for the most part inappropriate and disrespectful at times. However I'm definitely hinting a sense of spiritual materialism in you: Ego pride. Many of us here have had our own unique and personal experiences, as you said with yourself: DO NOT DOUBT YOUR OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES. However, each and every person has their own unique personal experiences. Remember that. I had a 100% success on remote viewing this week, and couldn't have nailed it more dead on. And it's by no means the first. I have had dreams of past lives and been revealed information that I should not know, but have confirmed it with current historical and archeological findings. I've supposedly even been visited by the Council of Saturn informing me of some of my role to play. However, does this make my experiences so powerful that I need to go around preaching them that this is the just creator speaking through me? That I am some divine wanderer here to save Humanity and bring them to salvation. I do not think so. We are one in the same, and I am no better than anyone else, neither are you. We all have a journey and a quest, and it is found within our own selves, as you have with your dreams.

Good luck with your journey.

Hi Gregor,

My dreams are black and white. In fact, Yahweh has mentioned names and places. There are specific things that He showed me. There are vast amount of differences between regular dreams and dreams from my Father. To see the differences, please read my post again if you like. You see, these dreams glorify Him all the way. There are nothing about those dreams that do not speak volumes about His teachings, His ways, and especially His power. Does the Council of Saturn glorify Yahweh and teach you something about His ways? That question is one of the many ways (see my previous post about this topic for more) I judge to see if the dream is Heavenly or not.

This is nothing to do with pride. I am just here to provide everyone with a solid understanding of what Father Yahweh wants us to know, study, and fulfill His will before the new Heaven and Earth arrive here. I definitely feel like I'm following the footsteps of Master Yahushua as he has directed all of us to do....become his disciples. This life is a training ground for what is to come. So I say today, prepare yourself for the Kingdom of Yahweh. For the time is nigh.

-Phillip

[GregorArturo]

Originally Posted by ctophil

Hi Gregor,

My dreams are black and white. In fact, Yahweh has mentioned names and places. There are specific things that He showed me. There are vast amount of differences between regular dreams and dreams from my Father. To see the differences, please read my post again if you like. You see, these dreams glorify Him all the way. There are nothing about those dreams that do not speak volumes about His teachings, His ways, and especially His power. Does the Council of Saturn glorify Yahweh and teach you something about His ways? That question is one of the many ways (see my previous post about this topic for more) I judge to see if the dream is Heavenly or not.

This is nothing to do with pride. I am just here to provide everyone with a solid understanding of what Father Yahweh wants us to know, study, and fulfill His will before the new Heaven and Earth arrive here. I definitely feel like I'm following the footsteps of Master Yahushua as he has directed all of us to do....become his disciples. This life is a training ground for what is to come. So I say today, prepare yourself for the Kingdom of Yahweh. For the time is nigh.

-Phillip

Even though people may shrug this off, I have to say Hidden hand may had something right about channeled material being through negative entities when mentioning specific dates and places to steer people in the wrong direction.

I am not one to put people down, but Phillip you are very ineffective communicator, and have little basis or solid understanding for your positions. I spoke about phi earlier which you failed to address. Right now, I could right a nice piece several paragraphs long explaining the significance and demonstrating the mathematics behind it. With mathematics, a person can see with their own eyes "proof" for its existence. Proof happens through personal experience, and mathematics provides this personal experience as the symbols for numbers representing intangible things that we all comprehend and understand through personal experience. This is you so called 'solid understanding.'

What you are talking about is what Plato would refer to as 'opinion' (In the Republic). It is a piece of information that is variable and can differentiate between realities or existences/incarnations. Let's say you had been born of a different planet. You would have a different culture, language, history, religion, maybe even different mathematical equations for physics! It is not knowledge (according to Plato's use of the term). Knowledge is universal information that can be found all throughout the universe without ANYONE TELLING YOU OR INFLUENCING YOU ABOUT IT! It can be discovered via one's own thoughts, a pen, and a piece of paper.

ALL OF MY PHILOSOPHICAL CONCEPTS (up to this point at least), NOT SPIRITUAL CONCEPTS, HAVE BEEN DERIVED SOLELY FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES, EITHER FROM REALIZING LESSONS FROM SITUATIONS IN THE WORLD TO REVELATIONS WHILE MEDITATING. THIS INVOLVES ME CONTEMPLATING A NOTION WITHIN MY OWN INTRINSIC THOUGHTS.

Pieces such as the Ra Material and Plato's Republic have only REAFFIRMED my beliefs toward philosophical concepts, and have not led me astray in worshiping an ancient Egyptian god.

I have read all your posts Phillip, and I have not forgotten them. I know exactly what you said about your dreams. Do me a favor and read mine, and just think about them! My words can only be viewed as a catalyst as are yours, for it is within your own self where the decisions and the revelations are brought forth in response to these catalysts.

And on a further note, if you understood the Ra Material, along with the vast amount of other information out there in reference to these ideologies, the Council of Saturn, or anyone who upholds the Law of One, heck they don't even have to uphold it, but just in the understanding of all that is, one does not need to glorify the creation. WE ARE THE CREATION! And the understanding of that facilities one love for its infinite beauty.

[Allie]

GregorA....your opening paragraph strikes a chord with me

When the 2012 thing dropped in my lap, I began investigating it via the internet and in books. I was astounded by the number of theories, channellings and beliefs that existed. Clearly, not all of them can apply - each one appeared to contradict the other.

Many years ago I was directed to a conclusion which may be relevant to what is happening today. If we were given insight into every step along the way or told the outcomes of every experience we encounter, then those giving us this information would not be acting in a moral way. To provide all the answers is to be live our lives for us when it is very necessary for us to do this all by ourselves.

It's a bit like having your parents make every decision for you - how would you every have the tools to cope by yourself? You need all experiences - be they good or bad. You cannot have the answers to every dilemma given to you on a plate. There is no learning value in that and so, no personal growth.

So perhaps we either have mischevious/negative energies influencing us, or perhaps we have some decent ones who are telling us that we have to find our own answers - they cannot lead our lives for us as it is unfair and unhelpful to do so

[GregorArturo]

Thanks for the response Allie. I can't remember exactly how I came across the 2012 but it was a very long time ago, before even the conspiracy theories started weasling their way into my existence. I am pretty sure though it had to do with my obsession with the Mayans. My childhood I was obsessed with crystals, Atlantis, Stonehenge, the Mayans, and the Incans. And for some reason it panned out that I then ended up visiting Chitzen Itza and Stonehenge in my adolescent years. I believe I came across 2012 while researching Atlantis. I decided to pursue my childhood curiousity (Atlantis) a couple years after high school one day, several months after I had this extraordinary past life dream, and that's exactly why I am here right now. Personal experiences, my friends No book can account for that.

[Allie]

I think we're heading towards being back on topic now

Many apologies for the thread-jacking TimeisShort

I admit to only recently hearing of the teachings of Ra and have not yet had the chance to read them all. I was directed to David Wilcock's site via a friend, simply because in his video he mentions a dream in which a being clad in long white robes appeared. I have had some experiences involving ancient-looking, white robed men and have for ages wondered quite who they are. However, I still don't know Still, this was where I first came across Ra.

My thoughts are that perhaps our aim in this density is self-acceptance - broadly speaking

I do feel that we cannot look to others to give us the answers. There are no saviours - helping hands maybe, but what will we learn if we hand our lives over to others on whatever plane of existance or espousing a particular ideology

[GregorArturo]

I didn't jack the thread, I was defending it

Yes, the white robed guys! That's what drew me more toward David Wilcock too, as he said that's the Council of Saturn. I met twelve of them I believe sitting in a circle in a dream, and by far the most ridiculous dream I've ever EVER had. I didn't know why they were for awhile. But they sure did seem like they knew what they were talking about. I've been planning on writing a thread to talk about my personal experiences, my quest, along specifically with that dream. I usually keep the dream to myself because of it's ridiculous implications.

Interesting synchronicity.

[Allie]

Oh please do, GregorA

These white-robed men have fascinated me since I first saw one - which was around 2002'ish.

I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours

Otherwise we might just thread-jack again, which would be unfair to TimeisShort and the discussion that might evolve from his interesting topic

[GregorArturo]

For you, I promise I will. I'll send you a PM when I post the thread, eventually, as it's a long one, but good, very good, at least in my opinion.

[Allie]

I'm looking forward to that GregorA - might help me shed some light on my own white-robed-man puzzle

TimeIsShort - my influences are many - way too many to list I appear to have been born with a fascination for 'God' My tolerant - if bemused - parents became used to waving me goodbye as I set off to yet another Sunday school, or hijack of the local vicar/priest/rabbi I was too young to understand that what I was looking for was not religion but spirituality. It's an easy mistake to make when you're six years old

After bouncing about from one religion to another, I studied psychology at University where I came across Abraham Maslow and 'self-actualisation'. Some years later, attempting to sign up for a course in neuropsychology, I somehow ticked the wrong box and found myself signed up for a broad-based, first year science degree course. I now think that this was no accident - discovering science was also a spiritual experience.

I've found food for thought in Kahlil Gibran's ' The Prophet' and was fascinated by Gregg Braden - especially the phantom DNA experiments.

I find my best teachers are the people I meet. Most of them can teach me something I didn't know before - often about myself I think all that is necessary is to be aware of the possibilities for personal growth which exist in our everyday encounters with others. Even the ones who may hurt you offer an opportunity to learn

I hope I've made sense here. It's 3.30am in the UK and having been awake for 22hrs, I'm not even sure I know my own name

[Jack]

Originally Posted by Allie

Many apologies for the thread-jacking TimeisShort

No problem at all Allie, but thank you anyways.

Originally Posted by Allie

My thoughts are that perhaps our aim in this density is self-acceptance - broadly speaking

My thoughts have been influenced very much by "The teachings of Ra", amongst many others of course. Everything was a little jigsaw puzzle from the works of Danion Brinkley to Gregg Bradon and many others. Everything just fitted into place perfectly. From what ive gathered, it seems that the aim of this life is indeed self-acceptance, and the acceptance of others. To accept each and every atom of this universe as a part of ourselves.

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

I didn't jack the thread, I was defending it

Whatever you resist persists

[Princess Mew Mew]

Originally Posted by GregorArturo

I didn't jack the thread, I was defending it

Yes, the white robed guys! That's what drew me more toward David Wilcock too, as he said that's the Council of Saturn. I met twelve of them I believe sitting in a circle in a dream, and by far the most ridiculous dream I've ever EVER had. I didn't know why they were for awhile. But they sure did seem like they knew what they were talking about. I've been planning on writing a thread to talk about my personal experiences, my quest, along specifically with that dream. I usually keep the dream to myself because of it's ridiculous implications.

Interesting synchronicity.

Your post reminded me of a quote

"Because it is sometimes so unbelievable the truth escapes becoming known."
~Heracleitus

I would also like to ask to hear your story as well through PM or email. I am insanely interested in people's stories/experiences/adventures Only if you'd like to though. Arigato gozaimasu~

~Love