Symbology

[Karen]

Hello again Tim,

I see from other posts that is your name.

When I remembered you mentioned in this thread there is more information in another thread, I finally went out a did a search for it. If you can think of economy of effort for the collective good, then I think you can see the logic when I ask, in the future for you to open another browser window and take a moment to go fetch the link and post it for everyone. Now imagine the collective energy for 10 or 50 people to have to go search for it on their own vs. you know where it is and you just go get it. I have so many things on my list to do for Avalon that I forgot about that part of your post, and then I took quite the convoluted path full of distractions before I finally made it to the original post you speak of. I think this is it:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=7781

You have quite the informative thread going there, and I found answers to most of my questions in reply to your stand alone post here in this thread, although it is so long I'm only half way through it and I do have to go on to other things.

OK, so you have written to Bill and Kerry several times and have had no reply. You don't even know if the emails made it through. One person in the other thread indicates you come across as someone needing to be on medication - which is of course what "they" delight in -- to make your telling of your story to sound so crazy this is indeed one way to make people diss you as a nutjob. "They" are obviously incredibly cruel including that you have received threats to your very life.

All this does make the target (you) feel very paranoid about everything that happens, including why Bill and Kerry have not answered your emails. From my point of view, the answer is this: although I have not seen all of the Camelot material, your information seems quite distant from their current track of investigation.

I always want to cook up solutions for these types of matters that arise, and I think I will suggest a type of canned response like - Thank you very much for the information you sent. Although we are investigating different topics at this time, we will keep it on file for possible future investigations. I will point out though the contact page does say they can read but not possibly answer all email. http://projectcamelot.org/contact.htm.

I will even go one step further and see if I can get Bill to give you a response either on the forum or privately. I keep saying that not getting answers to questions has been one of the big problems when this board exploded in size so fast the team could not keep up with it. People eventually begin to make all kinds of far out assumptions, and humans are very prone to be lead around by suggestions when another is accused of having devious motives.

Hope this helps,
Karen

PS: This discussion is off topic for the snake/wormhole/symbology thread. If there is any part you wish to continue to discuss please copy it over to your first thread - http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=7781. Thanks much!

[taadev]

re: It will be interesting to see what happens to this thread, although with the limited people that will sign up the damage will be limited.

Please, many people have died during the time this information was generated, (see below)my children may too if the Italian mafia follows through with the Satanic threats that have been made, translate, bookmark, save, print, & distribute these posts as it will indeed be a miracle if they last long. I've CONFIRMED this information, multiple times, very high and laterally in the community.

This sort of harassment does make one appear, if not feel, paranoid. BUT, as paranoid is defined as 'unrealistic fear', is fear from a truly threatened/targeted individual unrealistic? Does his or her cumulative experience affect their perception? How is it possible to relate years of experiences in a single blurb that people will read, let alone one to which they can relate/understand ?

Hello back Karen,

Thanks for your reply and offer of assistance!

This thread is about symbology, under conspiracy research; your last statement confused me, but these days that's not a difficult task.

Your last point in, your original email, was that Kerry uses intuition as a major vehicle to, using her terms, 'thoroughly vet' the witnesses presented on Camelot.

Perhaps I'm being retentive, but as an analyst I hope you're mistaken on this point as with conspiracies the facts are indeed sometimes stranger than fiction and this presents very clearly in most of the testimonies on Camelot.

As an analyst, should not one also:
1) Consider the circumstances;
2) Interview the potential witness in the 'vetting' process? I'm sure they do this, or they'd be asleep at the wheel or our minds. If the witness soon turns up dead then they'd know there was indeed something to the story;
3) Question, probe, watch the reactions of potential witnesses;
4) Ask other close friends or consultants that might also be aware of the tactics/threats using 'psychological anchoring; (e.g. Judges, psychologists, lawyers, retired police/fire,teachers, wealthy. Ask in such a way as it appears you KNOW already so that they're in a position of lying, or admitting and recall information is compartmentalized from them.)

Most people in the upper socio-economic income, >1,000,000 are aware of this but are quite careful to as not make angry those with whom you are either 'with or against', as the latter group, and their children, are mercilessly attacked via a type of ruthless black listing system, the scope of which is even beyond the imagination.
One that relies on careful compartmentalization and LIES.


The symbology thread in which we write was originally the Italian “Biscione”, showing a serpent with a crown of a king and a child in his mouth. Does this not cry of what I write? How many others must experience this painful process? (Remember: multiple shoes must fit a scenario or the 'plausible deniability'/incredulity to the masses breaks in the media spin.)



This, in my IMHO/experience shows the very 'keys to the rich kingdom of evil', any 'kingdom', or department, family, or country, which are leveraging the kids of others to to infiltrate and create initially, perceived and later very real, threats to those that are most important to most parents: their children.

This is likely used in all areas needing corruption as once your kid decides someone is a 'nice friend', one that's said all the right things, or defended them against some planted 'villain' you can forget about telling them this person is bad, as it will forever confuse them and cause them to lose faith in humanity after several 'nice' friends, teachers, whatever turn on them. (google "bullycide", "mobbing leyman". Interpolate and believe.)

If you hear the words, "Dad/[mom], boys/[girls] just don't like me..." then you may very well have the same problem as these words/feelings were identical in both my children and it's very destructive to their self esteem and their faith in their fellow human beings.

This IS the ultimate threat as how many could risk sacrificing their kids? Even for the greater good of those THOUSANDS, or more, kids and adults that could follow or precede that have and will end up dead? (via suicide, 'accidents', health problems)

One in a thousand? Million?

Well I can see that "Camelot" is moving quickly to cut the number of readers to a more manageable level; in fact to indeed eliminate the masses who cannot subscribe.


Also, regarding your point about 'paranoia'. One that's gone through this sort of terrorism is not considered paranoid by the psychologists that I've interviewed. The only difference between a 'paranoid' and a targeted person, is one is perceiving being attacked and the other is being attacked.

Not unlike an Jewish or Irish person jumping when they hear a party balloon burst after being exposed to bombings.

Their symptoms are similar, but the latter does not get better with medications until the harassment stops; that's how you can tell it's Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome.

Think about it. How would a truly threatened person react?
'rapidity of speech', 'anxious/anxiety'? What if the person had ADHD? Would it exacerbage those symptoms and provide hooks/anchors to leverage even further?

How would a target react if they'd realized their children, family and friends had been hurt, if not brainwashed?
Crying perhaps?
What if that person then had an experience like 'The Secret' where the images they saw came true shortly thereafter?

Might they believe they'd been in the presence of something far greater than themselves? Perhaps an angel or G-d? (Or an interdimensional being of some sort?)
How would that make them feel?
Elated, perhaps blessed, very lucky, perhaps even 'selected'?
(If they were Buddhist or Hindu they'd feel otherwise; they'd feel like they'd found the 'third eye'.)

if they were unfamiliar with meditation and the 3rd eye, could they not then be diagnosed as 'bi-polar'?


Thanks very much for your help! I wonder if Kerry could respond? Since we both live in the same state it would seem to be quite germain to her. On the other hand, perhaps she too has interviewed wealthy friends and knows it is indeed a very black and dangerous arena to investigate, let alone about which to provide credible witnesses.

The word that describes why this is still a secret, told to me by an Italian friend that is now also dead, is "M U E R T A"

With love and regards,

Tim

ps. Don't forget about the children and do prepared to give your life in their defense, but do not fight violence with violence.

Originally Posted by Karen

Hello again Tim,

I see from other posts that is your name.

When I remembered you mentioned in this thread there is more information in another thread, I finally went out a did a search for it. If you can think of economy of effort for the collective good, then I think you can see the logic when I ask, in the future for you to open another browser window and take a moment to go fetch the link and post it for everyone. Now imagine the collective energy for 10 or 50 people to have to go search for it on their own vs. you know where it is and you just go get it. I have so many things on my list to do for Avalon that I forgot about that part of your post, and then I took quite the convoluted path full of distractions before I finally made it to the original post you speak of. I think this is it:

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=7781

You have quite the informative thread going there, and I found answers to most of my questions in reply to your stand alone post here in this thread, although it is so long I'm only half way through it and I do have to go on to other things.

OK, so you have written to Bill and Kerry several times and have had no reply. You don't even know if the emails made it through. One person in the other thread indicates you come across as someone needing to be on medication - which is of course what "they" delight in -- to make your telling of your story to sound so crazy this is indeed one way to make people diss you as a nutjob. "They" are obviously incredibly cruel including that you have received threats to your very life.

All this does make the target (you) feel very paranoid about everything that happens, including why Bill and Kerry have not answered your emails. From my point of view, the answer is this: although I have not seen all of the Camelot material, your information seems quite distant from their current track of investigation.

I always want to cook up solutions for these types of matters that arise, and I think I will suggest a type of canned response like - Thank you very much for the information you sent. Although we are investigating different topics at this time, we will keep it on file for possible future investigations. I will point out though the contact page does say they can read but not possibly answer all email. http://projectcamelot.org/contact.htm.

I will even go one step further and see if I can get Bill to give you a response either on the forum or privately. I keep saying that not getting answers to questions has been one of the big problems when this board exploded in size so fast the team could not keep up with it. People eventually begin to make all kinds of far out assumptions, and humans are very prone to be lead around by suggestions when another is accused of having devious motives.

Hope this helps,
Karen

PS: This discussion is off topic for the snake/wormhole/symbology thread. If there is any part you wish to continue to discuss please copy it over to your first thread - http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=7781. Thanks much!

[Karen]

Hi Tim,

I have noted your two replies here. At this time I am very busy with helping people come up with solutions to not having the money to subscribe. There are gift subscriptions from others that have been offered, and there are other options.

So it will take me some time to read through your posts more carefully to see if I have any replies. Kerry now resides in Sedona, Arizona (update Kerry is back in the Los Angeles, CA area) and Bill is in Zurich, Switzerland.

They have been so busy with their work, and getting the subscription going, there really have been no recent replies from them. It would be interesting to see them reply, but I have to honor the fact that there is only so much they can do.

I can't really say more right now. I will try to get back to you in the next few days. We are just volunteers here and I have a lot of other things to work on.

Karen

[Karen]

Hi Tim,

I have just done a little research on this "snake eating child" Biscione image and I have to say one more time - I do not believe the snake is eating the child. The snake is the symbol of the wormhole and the little human is emerging from the mouth of the snake.

Check here and carefully read the whole page and look at all the images.
http://williamhenry.net/SGbeardedGods.htm

I understand the intensity of your cause however, with such intensity it easy to make correlations where they do not exist.

Yes, I agree the are using children for despicable things, but IMO this is not a symbol for that.

Karen

Originally Posted by taadev

The symbology thread in which we write was originally the Italian “Biscione”, showing a serpent with a crown of a king and a child in his mouth. Does this not cry of what I write? How many others must experience this painful process? (Remember: multiple shoes must fit a scenario or the 'plausible deniability'/incredulity to the masses breaks in the media spin.)

This, in my IMHO/experience shows the very 'keys to the rich kingdom of evil', any 'kingdom', or department, family, or country, which are leveraging the kids of others to to infiltrate and create initially, perceived and later very real, threats to those that are most important to most parents: their children.

[taadev]

Originally Posted by Karen

I have just done a little research on this "snake eating child" Biscione image and I have to say one more time - I do not believe the snake is eating the child. The snake is the symbol of the wormhole and the little human is emerging from the mouth of the snake.

Check here and carefully read the whole page and look at all the images.
http://williamhenry.net/SGbeardedGods.htm

I understand the intensity of your cause however, with such intensity it easy to make correlations where they do not exist.

Yes, I agree the are using children for despicable things, but IMO this is not a symbol for that.

Karen

Karen,
I've read that interpretation as well and yes children being used is very intense, as are threats, by Italians, to your children.


Note the bared teeth and the coil at the top of the serpent. Should this not be interpreted in a naturalistic way? Does that not represent the preceding threats? Note the alignment with the coil and the child's body; note the flailing arms.(i.e. First the child firmly in the coils of the snake, showing his threatening teeth, then the follow through for the more stubborn / bigger picture people; all in one symbol. The needs of the many outweigh the threats to the few.

There are many, William Cooper included, that believe the entire Alien phenomenon is like the 'New Age' phenom.
(Read 'Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow' for the reason for the latter; the anti-Christian logic suits also the alien phenomenon.)

Here's a great thread on the entire subject:
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=7434

Let me repeat, multiple 'shoes', or scenarios, must fit or the game is broken; people will 'wear' those that fit their psychology best and/or cause the least amount of pain and/or is told to them as being true.

Do you think the designer/artist could/would admit the real meaning to the masses? (and not get jailed/killed.)

Have you not seen examples where there is one 'meaning' to the public, and another to 'adepts'? (Even others to 26th degree adepts.) There are sometimes 6 or 10 'true meanings' to these general FREEMASON symbols, but until you're at the top of the triangle of power, and have been filtered through the process, you must take the word of your masters/adepts.

You could be correct, but 100's of pages of 'proofs' of what that means will not change the fact it represents, symbolically speaking, that of which I write. You previously admitted that shining light on this subject is dangerous, Kerry too seems to be in agreement. However, why Illuminati 'defectors' is less dangerous is a bit confusing.

I'm sure you can see we both are likely 'correct'.

Another link in the chain around the neck of not only Christianity, which, IMHO, had nails driven by the secret societies(i) a very long time ago, but even the Christ metaphor/conscience, which does better fit most people.

Who plagiarized who? To a psych major the Christ conscience/metaphor makes more logical sense to have existed FIRST; due to majority.

As you clearly know we're, mostly, creatures of love, but the Freemasons have gone to great and ancient lengths/expense, to torch those they claim plagiarized their sUn worship to allow corruption of powerful leaders. This to perpetuate themselves on the shoulders of those many of us that have not been or are not corruptible. (Regardless of threats or dangers in this plain of existence.)

How do they 'boil' a Freemason?
Same as a frog, one degree at a time....

regards,
ta


(i) By inversions of female to male, editing, adding obvious lies to FLIP good people into confusion, anger and ultimately disbelief. Just add the burning of the Great Library at Alexandria and you're off to the races with a new business model of hate/money/greed and unstoppable 'success'.