14th October 2008

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by sfth13

here's part of the original message

"TO LEADERS, GOVERNERS, POLITICIANS AND
ALL PEOPLE OF EARTH ….

We wish it to be understood that on the 14th day of your month of October in the year 2008 a craft of great size shall be visible within your skies. It shall be in the south of your hemisphere and it shall scan over many of your states. "

it says "in the South of your hemisphere" not in the southern hemisphere well i guess this would depend on where you are while reading this message..or who this message was directed to.. kinda confusing. but either way somebody better have a camera ready.

could someone post, the whole message ???

is there, an mp3 of it ???

so, we could hear the voice

thank you

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by sfth13

here's part of the original message

"TO LEADERS, GOVERNERS, POLITICIANS AND
ALL PEOPLE OF EARTH ….

i have NEVER had an ascended master come to me,
and, start a message that way ...NOT ever !!!

besides:

first)
governer is spelled with an "O"

and, do you really think, that universal beings,
would address these types of evil people,
as, leaders ??? (that makes NO logical sense)

second) they could NOT care less about politics

they do however, care, how we eXchange

third)
they do NOT view "us" as "separations"
they view us,
as "creators", just like they are !!!

dear ones, or dear family,
who ALL have the onboard abilities, and, potentialS,
to be, as, they are !!!

sitting and watching, some "beam-blue" appearance
in the sky, may NOT be the "real" truth !!!

that is why they come to us,
to eXchange with us, and, they come to us,
normally, inside of US,
NOT, always in the view of physical eyes,
although some visit that way.

do you know why
places like blogtalkradio / myspace / etc,
are so popular ???

it is because, we,
the "real" people,
are the REAL STARS !!!

and, the sooner, we stop this crazy worship
and, this glitz, of hollywood productions
(similiar to landing on the moon)

and, realiSe,
fully realiSe,
that we can light up the stars
inside of us,
the sooner,
"a grand page, in the cosmos
will "make" itS turn"

(and, it iS all about YOUR PAGE)

when are you going to step into it ???

it is already happening NOW...
and, it will happen,
with you, or without out !!!

BRIGHTEST BLESSINGS

SUSAN ~the eXchanger

[sfth13]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

i have NEVER had an ascended master come to me,
and, start a message that way ...NOT ever !!!

besides:

first)
governer is spelled with an "O"



SUSAN ~the eXchanger

That was a cut and paste right from Blossoms website. I'm not sure what to make of it. I know I misspell alot but that one wasn't my fault. lol

http://www.blossomgoodchild.com/

[Glen]

If the E T s are so clever , why did they not make themselves knowen to the people who are of the good in this world not the governments who s agender is slavery and war greed ,destruction , and so on.

Alexandra,

First of all I'd say that I am one of the least 'airy-fairy' people you could meet. I have both of my feet firmly on the ground and do not take things at face value.

As far as I'm aware I've never been in a fairy closet to begin with and have no intention of stepping into one either, as I enjoy my life very much as it is.

In no way have I said that I believe that there is only positive things in life, not sure where you got that from. I am fully aware of what's going on in my own life as well as in the world.

When it comes to 'make lemonade out of lemons', I'd say I must have made lots of lemonade through the years then, considering not only my personal life with friends and family, but also through my work where I deal with many clients that have gone through horrific experiences, like child molestation, rape, physical abuse... you name it.

I truly do not believe that my clients would come back to me time after time if I wasn't 'empathising and helping them get back on their feet'.
And, if I couldn't be there for another person in need, then I wouldn't be in the profession I am.

You asked me to explain what I meant with focusing on the positive aspects in life, instead of putting all focus on the negative stuff, and the way I read your question it came across as you had no idea what that meant at all, thus my respons.

Re: desire to be with all that is, I couldn't agree more Alexandra, seems like you learnt quite a bit in your closet. However, I do believe that we create/co-create our own reality.


Moria x

Hello again, Alexandra

The only reason, again, that I posted about that 'exercise', was because your question came across as though you didn't have a clue about what I was saying, that's all.

I do agree that we need to take all aspects into consideration, not only the positive ones, but we still have a choice as where to put our main focus

Yes, I am very well aware of that phrase, and I do believe that there is an equal to everything, light to dark, positive to negative and so on. I also like the saying (paraphrasing wildly here ) You can silence darkness with light, but you can not silence light with darkness.

Moria x

[Sanat]

In case this thread has gotten somewhat of track I will share what David Wilcock has to say about the 14. october event in a new article he just wrote:

POSTSCRIPT: OCTOBER 14TH

This needs to be said in order to answer at least five emails a day I’m getting about October 14th.

Channeling is a beautiful thing when done well. It brings inspiration and loving consciousness to a world greatly in need. It also empowers us to make our own changes rather than stepping in to rescue us as if we were incapable of self-help.

I watched these crop circle prophecies about August 16th unfolding in June and July but did not publish. Part of it was that I was quite busy, but I also expected people would read into it too much and think that something grandiose and blatant would happen on that very day.

Then, of course, the skeptics would rush in and declare the whole thing a ‘hoax’ when nothing seemed to happen.

I realized that as soon as I mentioned the prophecy date, someone would immediately start a rumor that a massive UFO sighting would occur that day. The crop formations would be hailed as the "Blueprints to Contact" and lots of people would get excited about it.

Then, when it didn’t happen, everyone would be disappointed, the person who started the rumor would issue an embarrassing retraction, and be discredited.

This is all about to happen again, as it has every year since I got online in 1996. This time the day of disappointment will be October 15th.

I do feel sorry for the person who channeled this, and for all the people who believe it, as no matter how badly you might want this to happen, it’s not going to. At least not right now.

Due to the Law of Free Will that the ETs allegedly must follow, it is my understanding that a "mass sighting" will not happen until we as a planet have invited it. A prophecy is circulating the Net that a massive UFO will appear for three days on October 14th and wipe out the New World Order, a group that the prophet says would otherwise take over the planet.

I guarantee you that nothing unusual will be seen in the skies that day, because we are not at the point where we as a planet have reached a consensus about whether we want it to happen or not.

I hate to speak so bluntly, but we’re dealing with very serious issues here. Internet chain letters and back-slapping love-ins within UFO circles are not enough to create such a consensus. That is unlikely to change anytime soon.

We need to reach those people who sit and vegetate in front of the TV, blindly believing everything the top five corporations feed them with the trust of little children.

If you put a UFO in front of them, without any front-loading from the media, they would either worship it — and those who predicted its arrival — as Gods, and / or scourge them as devils. It creates an irreversible infringement upon our free will as a planet.

I don’t mind the letters. This is an opportunity for you to understand what a privilege it is to have this knowledge. Not everyone is ready for it yet, and that puts you in a unique position where you can have an active and beneficial effect in helping this planet evolve.

The truth of the extraterrestrial presence, and how it works with us, is a lot more interesting and beneficial for everyone on Earth than the idea of ETs coming in for a massive ‘bailout’ of our corrupt political system on October 14th.

You have to use your mind and solve a mystery with lots of different clues. I felt like a detective and enjoyed the thrill of discovery as I put all this together. I have since been dazzled to see it unfolding so perfectly.

With that said, we will continue with your intelligence briefing into the secret history of crop circles, and their relevance to our immediate present and future.

Source: http://divinecosmos.com/index.php?op...=407&Itemid=70

I like the fact that Wilcock has an essentially positive view of our future. This shines through many places in this article series. He believes that the dark/cabal illuminati are on the verge of being totally dismantled. And he also states that the the ufo/ET coverup is about to blow. But as you can see he is not into the 14 october event.

I react to the fact that he seems to have gotten the whole thing a bit wrong. He states:

Due to the Law of Free Will that the ETs allegedly must follow, it is my understanding that a "mass sighting" will not happen until we as a planet have invited it. A prophecy is circulating the Net that a massive UFO will appear for three days on October 14th and wipe out the New World Order, a group that the prophet says would otherwise take over the planet.

Is this how he has interpreted the event? The original message does not state that they will "wipe out the NWO". Neither does it say that "the NWO group would take over the planet" if they (the ETs) did not intervene. I find this a bit strange coming from such a wellinformed person. It seems that he has not taken this event seriously enough to really investigate it.

His vision of what would happen if the UFO showed is, in my opinion at least, a gross underestimation of the people of this planet. That people "would either worship the ETs (and the channelers!) as gods, or scourge them as devils" does not ring true in my ears. This is not the middle ages anymore. Most people of the planet believe there to be ET intelligent life out there...

His article is focused upon that the dark cabal/illuminati is on the verge of collapse and of loosing their grip on the planet. He also says that the ET/UFO coverup is about to blow. Add these factors together and the 14th October event fits right into the grander scheme of things (whether it happens exactly on that date or not). Seeding this into the mass consciousness has been necessary to "check for consensus". The majority of sleeping people cannot be expected to consent. But as always; a "critical number" of people needs to be reached. And this is happening big time.

That was some thoughts on this issue. Hope to see other peoples opinion on all this!

[THE eXchanger]

Originally Posted by Alexandra

Moria,
I was referring to the thirty day only positive thoughts exercise.

I also have been working with clients, as a Crisis Interventionist/ and in Prevention for many years and now as a Usui Ryoho Reiki Master/Teacher . Just because I do not advocate living in a positive only frame of reference does not indicate that I dwell in negativity. All I am trying to convey, obviously unsuccessfully, is that in order to grow, one needs to view all aspects of this planet, albeit positive or negative.

Have you ever heard the phrase "There is no good and there is no evil for all is one."? There are two sides to every coin and you cannot utilize a coin with only one side because it cannot exist in a 3 dimensional world.

yup, and, there are 4 sides to a triangle

allow most, are still viewing it, as three

[LadyGolfer]

Hi all, I wanted to share an experience with you. I was reading this thread and decided to listen to some music. I was listening to the song "Savin' Me" by Nickleback and tears started to stream down my face. If interested I am posting the lyrics to the song. I cannot explain my reaction because I am a very strong person but I thought I would share the experience. Here are the lyrics...

Savin' Me lyrics

Prison gates won't open up for me
On these hands and knees I'm crawlin'
Oh, I reach for you
Well I'm terrified of these four walls
These iron bars can't hold my soul in
All I need is you
Come please I'm callin'
And oh I scream for you
Hurry I'm fallin', I'm fallin'

[Chorus:]
Show me what it's like
To be the last one standing
And teach me wrong from right
And I'll show you what I can be
Say it for me
Say it to me
And I'll leave this life behind me
Say it if it's worth saving me

Heaven's gates won't open up for me
With these broken wings I'm fallin'
And all I see is you
These city walls ain't got no love for me
I'm on the ledge of the eighteenth story
And oh I scream for you
Come please I'm callin'
And all I need from you
Hurry I'm fallin', I'm fallin'

[Chorus]

Hurry I'm fallin'

All I need is you
Come please I'm callin'
And oh, I scream for you
Hurry I'm fallin', I'm fallin', I'm fallin'

[Chorus]

Hurry I'm fallin'

[Luigis Mushroom]

I would like to make a request that people show MORE SCRUTINY and skepticism when it comes to strangers telling them "I love you."

For God Sakes, IT DOES NOT MEAN THEY LOVE YOU

That is "how to start a cult" 101.

And besides, they say they're here to **** with the Cabal, but the Cabal works for THEM. They just come here to pretend to be the heroes so everyone will worship them.

(taken from http://www.georgekavassilas.org/)

"Messages From The Heart - July 2008

I George Kavassilas feel the need to clear the air in regards to statements I made in my DVD of the lecture at the Eternal Spirit in July 2004.

The Spiritual Hierarchy and Galactic Council of Light of which I am a part of is not the same as a group calling themselves the galactic federation of light.

You see the negative forces duplicate the true Hierarchy of Creation in order to deceive planetary populations. The more closely they can align themselves with the true Hierarchy the harder it is for planetary populations to discern, and therefore the easier it is for them to deceive.

This imposter group are currently imposing themselves on this planet by stealth and is fooling most of the ruling elite and governing bodies. They are using a particular faction within their empire, who is proficient at technology, genetic manipulation and mind control. The mid to higher levels of the empire will soon appear, rid the planet of this other faction and look like the good guys. They are the ones soon to be our so called saviours at a time of crisis, which is in the process of being orchestrated by them and will come into fruition over the next fear years, and yes they have their own version of the spiritual hierarchy including a Christ entity and all other major religious figures.

I know this because at times I too have been manipulated by them and my comments about boarding the ships at a time of crisis and the being lord sananda was one such time.

There will be a promise of ascension, their version of ascension, and relative to the despair that they wish to manifest globally, many will take to it like a young child takes to candy.

Also since my lecture in 2004 I've had the honour and the privilege on several occasions to have travelled into the 5th Dimension on this planet, into a realm known as Avalon or Shambhala. The real Avalon and Shambhala, not ET bases which are attempting to replicate these realms as well. The reason I say it's real is because I've been to both and one is based on technology and the other is pure clean Universal Consciousness.

It is the realm of the Divine Mother, our Earth Mother Sophia or Gaea, who is not incarnated out here in the matrix but has manifested a 5th Dimensional body in Avalon/Shambhala out of reach from the negative forces.

I felt honoured to be in the presence of the most graceful energy in this Universe. I attended meetings there but unfortunately I only remember a small fraction of the experience. I do remember a little of the environment and what it feels like to be in the 5th Dimension. Having such a point of reference is priceless and incredibly important with the coming deception and that is why I feel the need to share these understandings.

The connection one has in the false realm is on a mental level and communication occurs using a form of telepathy that stimulates and strokes the central nervous system giving the unsuspecting or in-experienced person the feeling of a benevolent presence and euphoria. This is what it feels like to be connected to an artificial intelligence posing as benevolence.

In contrast when a Being is connected to the pure clean Universal Consciousness all communication takes place beyond the mind. It becomes a resonance that emanates from the central core of your Being and permeates throughout the body. When Love and Knowledge are exchanged the complete understanding is conveyed including feelings and the ongoing ripple effect to all life as far as your Being wishes or requires to comprehend, and it all happens in an instant. The following is most of what I remember about our path towards ascension.

The Divine Mother will open at the appropriate time dimensional doorways all over her planetary body allowing those with `eyes to see and ears to hear' to walk through into sanctuary. These doorways or openings are symbolized by the Vesica-Piscis, there are a multitude of pictures through the ages showing Christ standing in or walking throughout the Vesica-Piscis doorway and is also the Fish of Christianity.

This symbol represents the Womb of The Mother, The Almond or in Greek the Amigdala, The Magdalene who of course was the incarnation of the Divine Mother Earth herself and twin flame of Ihsous (Jesus). It saddens me to think how our beloved Mary has been so tragically and systematically ridiculed, judged, persecuted and condemned over the past two millennia.

You see any energy, consciousness or Beings that wish to control this reality must first control the consciousness and energy that is this planet and reality. This planet being an aspect of our Divine Mother is why the feminine energies have been oppressed over the last few thousand years. Control the feminine, control the planet.

It is also imperative to understand that this abuse, oppression and control is only occurring because Mother Earth is allowing it. You see, she has courageously offered herself and sacrificed herself and well being in order to facilitate our ascension. A Mothers' Unconditional Love.

I adamantly assure you that in order to ascend one must first re-align and rebalance with the Divine Feminine. It is important to remember that we are ascending not separate from, but with our Divine Mother Earth. Yes the planet is ascending and she is carrying us all in her womb and is giving birth to a whole new version of Humanity. We are evolving from Homo-sapiens into Hu-Man. In Greek the word Homos means dirt/earth and sapieo means rotten. If we as a species continue
to function under the auspice of our lower animal consciousness of the Homo-Sapien then we will turn this Earth rotten. This is obviously now occurring but so is our metamorphosis into, and birthing of the true Hu-Man.

Hu meaning God and Man meaning Nous or Universal Mind, A Godly Being of Godly Mind.

Once we return to the sanctuary of the 5th Dimension, we will be safe from the cleansing process of the lower planetary dimensions and will also be re-united with our brothers and sisters in the light, including loved ones who have passed over and are eagerly awaiting to greet us and provide assistance for our re-adjustment to the 5th Dimension.

After inner peace is re-established and all celebrations have subsided preparations will then begin for our ascension into the Golden Age.

Love, Liberation & Fortitude
George Kavassilas"

[NeoEmc2]

Originally Posted by Luigis Mushroom

And besides, they say they're here to **** with the Cabal, but the Cabal works for THEM. They just come here to pretend to be the heroes so everyone will worship them.

That's funny because every channeled message I've ever read repeatedly has mentioned they do not want to be seen as Gods and be worshiped. They are not going to save anyone. It is up to you as an individual to save yourself. I think you need to inform yourself a little better, friend. You sound a bit lost. Anyone would be a fool to be worshiping these beings knowing everything (I assume) they know and the fact that they are in this forum. There is also nothing wrong with telling someone you love them because we are all one. Everything in your tiny little existence comes from one original thought. We are all united. I am you and you are me - we are one. That is the law of one. Love is one of its primary distortions.

Educate yourself. Question everything.

Peace

[Sanat]

Great post NeoEmc2!

I found this message from the same user which is also right on the button as to how I sense it to be:

Alignment with Earth Ascension

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xKQbYHCJJY

[Ali Quadir]

Originally Posted by NeoEmc2

That's funny because every channeled message I've ever read repeatedly has mentioned they do not want to be seen as Gods and be worshiped.

Explain to me. How are they going to avoid being worshiped when it is human nature to look for external objects to attach hopes and fears to? It's unfortunately not their choice whether we worship them or not. It is very naive to assume mankind will just treat them as equals. After all, they ARE Gods to many of our oldest definitions of what Gods are...

The first few books in the bible ARE about them. Are you seriously going to tell me there is no risk that we will worship them? Because we certainly did in the past.

[NeoEmc2]

Originally Posted by Ali Quadir

Explain to me. How are they going to avoid being worshiped when it is human nature to look for external objects to attach hopes and fears to? It's unfortunately not their choice whether we worship them or not. It is very naive to assume mankind will just treat them as equals. After all, they ARE Gods to many of our oldest definitions of what Gods are...

I think it's naive of you to assume people will worship them. Think of how many religions there are. Are you meaning to tell me everyone who follows those religions will assume that their God has come to save them? ... please What will happen after they leave? What will those people think? Will they think their God came and abandoned them?

Originally Posted by Ali Quadir

The first few books in the bible ARE about them. Are you seriously going to tell me there is no risk that we will worship them? Because we certainly did in the past.

Forget the past. The future is now. Try living in it.

Who is this we you are referring to? Is it you and your friends and family? Is it your neighbors? Who is it? It's certainly not me I tell you that much.

How about you look into way of preventing people around you from worshiping them considering you are aware that this event is possible. It's alright to think of such outcomes but instead try to find solutions to what you could do in case that happens. Why are you part of this forum? What led you here? What have you seen, heard or read that has made you think differently from everyone else around you? Do you believe in this ground crew business or are you just here to be a pessimist?

I'll assume for a moment that you do believe in the idea of the Ground Crew, so what is its purpose? Is it not to form communities of friends who are like minded so in case the **** hits the fan you have someone to turn to in all the craziness? Is the ground crew idea not designed to help those who are confused during the time when the **** hits the fan so that they can understand what exactly is going on?

Listen man, you either want this event to happen or you don't, regardless of the outcome. I for one wish and hope that it does so that our world is transformed forever. Whether it happens on the 14th or not is irrelevant to me because I know it will happen eventually. I've seen UFOs with my own eyes in plain day time. I don't just think they exist - I know. I'm ready, are you?

[Sanat]

If the ET's assesed that "humanity" would worship them they would not go through with this mission we are all a part of. They are highly evolved and do think humanity is ready for this. Perhaps that would be wise to take into consideration? Them showing up is a strong indicator that they asses the situation such as humanity is ready for them showing up, right? And since they are more evolved than most of us down here at this point, I would assume they know what they are doing better than most of us down here...

If they were non-integrous and wanted to be "worshipped" they would probably have done better to make their move some time ago when humanity was more inclined to fall for such things. Getting married to predictions will always color your perception of what is happening right now...

[Ali Quadir]

Honest questions, honest answers...

Originally Posted by NeoEmc2

I think it's naive of you to assume people will worship them. Think of how many religions there are. Are you meaning to tell me everyone who follows those religions will assume that their God has come to save them? ... please What will happen after they leave? What will those people think? Will they think their God came and abandoned them?

They have in the past.... Most religious people are only as religious as checking the box when the next religious survey comes along. The mosques and churches at this time are emptying and they have been for a long time. At the same time alternative religions are filling up. You don't want to feed the neo pagans and wiccan witches on this planet. You don't even want to know about the coming of maytreya and the scores of new agers begging aliens or angels to come and save us. All of them craving for the same change you're craving for. But change comes from within. Without us changing it cannot hold. Not even if enforced from the outside.

There is an old saying, a people gets the governments they deserve. And no matter how we dislike what is happening now. This is what WE created. Not something pushed unto us.

Forget the past. The future is now. Try living in it.

Do you mean this in the way of "Try not to learn from the past."? Really, how about not getting ahead of ourselves... And just living in the now. No desires, no hopes no fears. Truthfully and intensely being what we are.

Who is this we you are referring to? Is it you and your friends and family? Is it your neighbors? Who is it? It's certainly not me I tell you that much.

We is mankind. All of us. Our mind is one. When I say we, I mean that part of us that we all share an that is singular. If you had silenced the monkey chatter or studied the occult you would know about this. You claim not to worship aliens however I do seem to detect some hero worship here.... It's IMPOSSIBLE that Goodchild is wrong and those who think otherwise are just being "Negative". Or not in touch with their inner selves. They WILL come and change the world.

They will really do no such thing. It's the Star Trek prime directive. That principle was not invented on earth. Unless we change first, we are not ready.

It's alright to think of such outcomes but instead try to find solutions to what you could do in case that happens. Why are you part of this forum? What led you here? What have you seen, heard or read that has made you think differently from everyone else around you? Do you believe in this ground crew business or are you just here to be a pessimist?

Are you really asking? Because my journey as a member of the ground crew started when I was 8 years old. Actually a while before that if you believe the information I received at that time. I knew all this stuff more than 20 years ago. Before the internet before anyone was there to tell me about it I knew. Not in the amount of detail I know it now. But I knew the earth changes, I knew about the dark side, and I knew the light side. I knew who I am and I knew what mankind is. I have also (Against my better judgement) experienced the previous apocalypse rush. I have followed and studied the many prophecies made over the last few millennia. Diven deep into ancient mythology/sacred geometry. I've been initiated into two mystery traditions. And I have followed the spirit/et channels on the web, as wel as communicated with my own.

But really all that I am saying is common sense. My background should make no difference.

I'll assume for a moment that you do believe in the idea of the Ground Crew, so what is its purpose? Is it not to form communities of friends who are like minded so in case the **** hits the fan you have someone to turn to in all the craziness? Is the ground crew idea not designed to help those who are confused during the time when the **** hits the fan so that they can understand what exactly is going on?

When the doodoo hits the fan. All your preparations will mean nothing. When what is going to occur does occur you're not going to be pressed for a fire. If you want to learn survival skills for that period you need to learn to master your fear, you need to silence the monkey chatter, to just act from another level than your rational/emotional mind, and you need to have the basics in place about psychic defense and attack. If you do not understand the way your mind works you cannot resist when it is manipulated.

And my friend we are being manipulated.

Listen man, you either want this event to happen or you don't, regardless of the outcome.

Hope and fear are the distortions that lead us to stop seeing clearly. The fact that our world is in chaos right now and that all this could happen is because we stopped seeing clearly. We put our faith in those placed above us. And started hoping for or fearing things beyond our control.

So no... I do not "want" this, I also do not "not want" this... I am where I am and what comes will come.

I for one wish and hope that it does so that our world is transformed forever. Whether it happens on the 14th or not is irrelevant to me because I know it will happen eventually. I've seen UFOs with my own eyes in plain day time. I don't just think they exist - I know.

When I was a child, I communicated with an entity. It took care of me, gave me advice, and told me about the universe. Over the years it just became a part of me. You could call me a symbiont. Though in reality all of us are completely merged with all others anyway. I know it will happen. I've always known. I also know the game that is being played now.

One side is trying to gain control over the earth, for their own egotistical desires. They are trying to create the ONE being by aligning everything and everyone towards the top of a hierarchy. The antichrist I spoke of earlier will be a variant of that one being. It is powerfull because all give up their power to him.

Another side is working to push the earth squarely into the hands of responsible earthlings and nurturing them to become what they must be. Like farming, just take away the rocks and the nasty bugs and the seed will do the growing. In a sense creating the ONE with the understanding that inside we are one, when we become aware of this aspect of us that is called attaining christ consciousness and also equated to the second coming of christ. However, it is already there. You can communicate with it. The biggest problem you'll have is discovering which parts of self that you took for granted are part of it. One hint, it's the most subtle part.

Something that we on average are not yet ready to express at this time though most of us are very close. They cannot interfere directly but covertly and through the action of informed individuals they are taking over control and managing the garden. This started centuries ago. The dark side had the planet in a death grip. But they're losing it. Like water erodes stone. And there is nothing that can be done about it. This is just the final spasms.

If full contact were made at this point. We would instantly focus on them as our savior. In effect they would become our new messias. This is exactly opposed what they are trying to accomplish (Keeping the garden clear so the seed can grow) so I think I can be pretty sure it won't happen.

I'm ready, are you?

Ready for what? Do you really know that? Are you able to discern the psychedelic nature of what is happening from the materialistic movie that is being played?

As for me. Don't worry about me. I am fine, I have always been fine, and I will always be fine no matter what the circumstances. I am not this mortal being.

The sleeper will awaken.
My soul is your soul.


@Average Joe....
You really need to make up your own mind. Reliability is very subjective. I'm not trying to blow you off. My apologies for accusing you of "fishing"...

Go to the divine cosmos, download the books there. And read. It will make your ears spin. And comes with references and scientific support every step of the way. This is the most reliable material I can find. It's enough to cause a paradigm shift in a man. Even if maybe it is a bit much at times. Be smart, read the indices and pick topics you're interested in the whole 3 books takes a months to get through.

(Un)fortunately that guy does not believe in the october 14th event. I also do not believe it. But for any other questions on other topics I'll be glad to forward you to material on the net that might answer them. Pm me.

The shift of the ages
The science of oneness
The divine cosmos.

[Average Joe]

Yes I really do need to make up my own mind. But I can't make my mind up on no information.

Thanks for pointing me towards some information.

[henners]

Thanks for the post on youtube Sanat. Once again i am impressed with the information . It is exactly how i feel.

[Oneness]

The latest news from Blossom Goodchild from two days ago. How many of us are ready? Thoughts on this anyone?

http://www.10-14-08.blogspot.com/

[Oneness]

Keep your eyes to the skys people. From my own investigating, the time is soon. ..And I think alot of us can feel it.

[henners]

I hope it goes ahead as planned, but i get the impression this is another false flag operation. Just saw the George Noory interview with Alex Jones and it makes a lot of sense. Its on You Tube.

As much as i pray and wish this is all true, somehow my feeling is that its another 9/11 type operation. Don't get me wrong, i have a feeling which has been growing for the past 6 months that something big is happening soon, but again i don't know if that is wishful thinking. These people in power will do anything just to control our minds and i would not put it past them if they were planning this in order to take our eyes off the economy and the problems associated with it.

I hope i can eat my words in two weeks if and when it comes true. I have been talking to many people in my job, (tour coach driver) and lots of people just do not believe any of this at all. Its like banging your head against a wall. Then they look at you as if you are crazy. We'll see in two weeks.
Sorry for ranting on but i am very passionate about our world and all of us that are being manipulated by a few individuals when we really know what is going on and cannot do anything about it.
Peace to all.

[Oneness]

I hear you Henners. It's just that so many of us on here concentrate on so much negative energy, and talk of deception and these fools running the show. I've gotten plenty of angry. It's just that...

That which is like unto itself is drawn.

I am pumped for this...if it is true. We concentrate all our creativeness, all our being on worry and fear, drawing and pullling to us the very thing that we wish not to create.

I have been banging my head as well getting others to awake, but everything is happening just as it is supposed to. I see everything as one. See the contrast, the negativity, and from ...choose to resonate in positive vibration.

I was getting so wrapped up in NWO material, I forgot what it was like to take a deep breath and notice the beauty that still surrounds us.

I anticipate the amazing, and wonderful things that are about to happen.

Namaste

[spaceman44]

Hi Oneness, I think that many of us are ready for this experience, some of us are afraid of this and wish not to believe that this will happen. The fear of the unknown.

We have to accept this visit as one of a beginning, a new beginning for all of us to grab hold with both hands and with our hearts, they come with LOVE and we should accept them with the same, LOVE.