IMPORTANT: Phone Call from Bill Deagle - Page 13

TranceAm · 10-06-2008, 03:00 AM

Can someone get a link that works up, I keep getting "400 Bad Request"
for the link "http://projectavalon.net/bill_deagle_4_oct_2008.mp3"

Thanks in advance.

Edit: I am burning to hear what this is about.

feeler · 10-06-2008, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

Hi, Folks:

Our apologies if it did come over in some way (to some) like a 'showdown' - that was definitely not our intention.

We were really scrambling yesterday when we posted this. Kerry was woken up by Bill Deagle's phone call sometime round about 5.15 am

Bill,

Apology accepted, 100%. A picnicking MD calling Kerry at 5:15, and not the other way around... Glad you called David W., who made a lot of sense. I've never heard David sounding so firmly. Whatever comes our way, we just deal with it.

I just come to realize that truth searching is not a walk in the park.

A big thank you to you and Kerry.

bluepoint · 10-06-2008, 06:07 PM

I am looking to meet like minded people in the tri state area of NY, Conn. and Mass. This area was the arsenal during the Revolutionary and Civil wars, the birthplace of the 2nd Amendment altough this will be different. No violence this time. I feel it will be safe. The Buddhists just opened their North American Headquarters in this area and I take that as a good sign. Bill and Kerry - thank u. Much love coming your way.

Squeptikal · 10-06-2008, 04:09 AM

Dear Bill and all,

I don't suppose that it's easy to find people with inside information and it also takes immense work to get those interviews on tape. It seems that you and Kerry do quite a bit of corroboration work with others to authenticate those you present. About the only thing that caused some concern to me was that Dr. Deagle sounded a little drunk on the phone. While this alone does not cause much alarm due to the subject nature and the way in which the good Dr. experienced it, it does tug at the credibility just a bit.

A big however is that most people i talk to about this October 7th eventism seem suddenly aware of something and the usual guffaws & put-offs are conspicuously absent and the deer-in-the-headlights looks caused me some fear. Last night i was asking the question "what if it's all bunk?". Tonight with the unusual responses i've gotten i'm asking: what if its true?

As much as i try to imagine my neighborhood changed and my friends suddenly enlightened it is also a frightening concept. Most of them don't believe in any conpiracy theories yet they seem intelligent and sane. They tend to look at UFO's and other strange things as ridiculous and those who seek more in that area as morons and mentally bankrupt. I know from my own experience that realization has consequenses almost to hard to bear at times.

I really wonder how you guys do it! I want to thank you for being so cool and giving so much of yourselves for this effort. I am quite ready to help in any way I can.

Average Joe · 10-06-2008, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

To AVERAGE JOE:
No, not a fraud. I was privileged to listen in on a 45 minute Skype conversation between Henry Deacon and Bill Deagle last year. They exchanged rapid-fire notes on black project codenames, clearance levels, project locations. I didn't understand much of it as so much of what they talked about was unknown to me.

Deagle is as real as the rain in your hair when it's wet outslde. But you might not believe that either.

Very best to all, Bill

Hey Bill, fair enough.

I sent you a pm about something, did you get it? If you haven't read it yet, please do.

shanonatime · 10-07-2008, 02:29 AM

Bill, in the last six months or so from you, I have learned to question the rain in my hair... I do mean that as a compliment...

I have to learn balance... come to think of it that was a strong symbol in a dream the other night... besisdes all of the scary things

here's a random question... does anybody here know writing therapist Caroline Wilson in the UK? anybody? took a class once with her and she was amazing.. have this feeling someone here may know her.

Anyhow- this balance is important- questioning everything versus stopping to settle in it, regardless of what shape we find it in... and ourselves...the image in my dream was actually of two weights... like the little ones a rich housewife would take to a fancy gym class...

s

Ali Quadir · 10-06-2008, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

Deagle is as real as the rain in your hair when it's wet outslde. But you might not believe that either.

Many of us do believe you. But because of your faith in him and ours in you, he'd be the perfect target for a psychic greeting/attack would he not?

Through him. To you. To us... We were all very shaken when this occurred. The feelings of shock that you and Kerry experienced were shared by many of us. You could simply feel the ripples of fear flow through the people on the forum. Some are still in shock.

I personally don't blame anyone, this is quite literally psychological warfare and we were all the intended victims of it. The blame game would be one of the intended side effects. I'm very happy that with the help of David many found the strength to just deny it. But it will likely happen again. Are you considering that possibility? That your sources are attacked? Precisely because many of us put so much value in your word and action?

This is exactly how psychic warfare works. I've been involved in the occult the last 15 years and I've learned about it, heard about it, and even seen it once or twice.

Alternatively it may also be wise to consider that being "In the know" does not necessarily mean being on the positive side. This thing happened, it should be counted in your evaluations. I don't want to put opinions in your head... Just alternatives.

For now I think we should abandon fear and hope in this matter. And just objectively evaluate what happened and what will happen. The date was very specific. Tomorrow we will know the accuracy of the prediction. And then we chalk all this up to experience. There is little else to do I think.

10-06-2008, 12:30 AM

It's amazing how no one knew about these so-called "Al-Qaeda" goons until after 9-11. Now, supposedly, we're on the "verge of victory" against these guys according to Ms. Palin. I am really ashamed on how our glorious USG talks down to us like we're a fistfull of idiots. Then we have Fox news which is another faction of lies and crap that they try to feed you and make you believe. When is all of this going to end? I think most of us, deep inside, have a weird feeling of big changes coming on. I do not believe (I better not have to eat my words) what Dr. Deagle had dreams of. I don't believe we'll have a nuclear exchange anytime soon, nor ever. I do believe, however, that we will be going through some very difficult times but we will survive (most of us) and just keep living the natural process of this planet. The main thing to focus on here is to BE POSITIVE, be part of the solution to solve the planet's problems by helping another human.......remember "Pay It Forward".

Average Joe · 10-06-2008, 12:33 AM

I'd just like to point out that everybody, apart from you, knew about these Al Quaeda "goons" before 9/11.

dragonfly · 10-05-2008, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micjer

There are certainly alot flatter cities out there.

Yeah, Like Phoenix. Only, no where near the sea.

What we put our energy into is very important right now. Be open for your inner guidence.

I listened to the first part of Deagle before leaving for work. The most disturbing part that is. "smile" I felt a twinge inside that it was time to prepare. I did not feel crazy scared, but more accepting to whatever it really meant. Create Fear. I at once noticed it within myself and banished it as I refuse to feed anything that feeds on it. I brought up to surface the light within and felt I will be needed soon.

I had a strange experience on my way home form work last night, after some shopping for prepetory supplies

, and I was 3rd car on the scene of a large white pick-up truck that had smashed into the rock wall along the canyon road, went about 30 feet smashing and spinning, tires coming off, and it stopped blocking both lanes of traffic. Right befor I got there, one wittness saw the whole thing and said he (the driver) got out of the truck, hopped on the back of someones motorcycle and split the scene. I could not reach my home as that is the only road. My feeling was calm, in a weird way, but a sort of serenity washed over me. 2 hours later they had it passable, but when the trooper got there, he pulled things out of the truck, for eveidence I presume. One large camaflage bag and a shotgun is all I saw. Irrelivant perhaps, but inside I felt a click of chaos beginning it's intensity. That I must remain alert and open to my inner voice. Anything can happen at anytime. Be in the now. I felt a strong sense that Calm is key.

Just felt like sharing.

Cheers all

10-05-2008, 07:48 PM

I've been trying to wrap my mind around Bill Deagles phone call since it was posted last night. This in conjunction with the lead up through the half past human phone interview. One thing that I try to take into consideration in relation to use this type is what kind of response it evokes inside of me. Over these last few days I unfortunately have been living in a fear response which has led to a slight degree of panic on my part. Unfortunately each time something like this transpires I seem to forget the last time it happened. But the result is always the same. Whatever it was I was terrified of and existing in a state of fear around, either did not transpire or came about in a manner little resembling the initial reaction .

While it is very likely that some event may transpire on the seventh of October I would be more inclined to align my thoughts and hopes with what David Wilcock and others have been putting forth. This is for two reasons the first being a lot of the people who have been offering positive prospects for the future seem to have a lot more information in relation to who they and where they come from .with this said I would appreciate it if someone could tell me exactly who Bill Deagle is .This morning I realized I was freaking out over something someone had said and that someone was a person who I had never heard of before. I could get equally worked up over the yearly coast to coast the phone in prophecy show they do each new year. Not to mention the fact that history is littered with people making dire prophecies that never transpire. Please don't get me wrong I am completely on board with the belief that the human race is about to make a massive jump in consciousness. And in this process there could be much turmoil that transpires.But something tells me that this can only be done through the sacrifice and surrender of our fears .(please note that these words come from an ex-survivalist and ex-member of an apocalypse cult).

My second point is to concur with the person who posted the suspicion that this had the earmarks of a psychic attack. I think the evidence of this is pretty much in plain sight. At least for myself it threatened to push me off into a state of personal chaos. I had to remind myself that we are essentially at war right now. And this war is one of the spiritual nature. It would make sense to take a swipe at a group of people who are trying sincerely to make a difference. If we refer back to the interview with Cliff High he states that release language has neither a positive or negative alignment. If I wanted to take a shot at all the people who are participating in what project Avalon is doing I would've seen this as a perfect opportunity to inject fear or into this corner of the matrix.(please note that when I say war I believe we are using the force of love to combat our enemy, please pardon the mild contradiction through the use of the word war. Spiritual pillow fight doesn't seem to fit the bill)

Or I could be totally wrong and were heading up crap creek without a plank to paddle.

Only time will tell

I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
Frank Herbert -Dune

Hmm hmm hmm, yeah...

It is you (oh yeah)
It is you, you (oh yeah)
It is you (oh yeah)

Cause a pressure drop, oh pressure
Oh yeah pressure drop a drop on you
I say a pressure drop, oh pressure
Oh yeah pressure drop a drop on you

I say when it drops, oh you gonna feel it
Know that you were doing wrong.

Hmm hmm hmm, yeah...
I say a pressure drop, oh pressure
Oh yeah, pressure drop a drop on you

Toots And The Maytals - Pressure Drop

bill · 10-05-2008, 08:03 PM

Listening to Wilcock he comes off as a cocky overconfident self serving loon

he says ' I don't want to bad mouth Dr Deagle ' and then proceeds to bad mouth Dr Deagle with inuendo and rumor and gossip

Wilcock

I have benn following Dr Deagle of and on for 8 or 10 years -- he is a very talented and loving man

the real deal

"not bill Ryan"

Son of Eire · 10-05-2008, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill

Listening to Wilcock he comes off as a cocky overconfident self serving loon

he says ' I don't want to bad mouth Dr Deagle ' and then proceeds to bad mouth Dr Deagle with inuendo and rumor and gossip

Wilcock

I have benn following Dr Deagle of and on for 8 or 10 years -- he is a very talented and loving man

the real deal

"not bill Ryan"

I aggree with you about David Wilcock I was disgusted with his nasty atempt discredit Dr.Deagle, this comming from a so called spiritual man.After hearing his outburst I declined to listen to the rest of his interview.

Bullfish · 10-06-2008, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suriel

Okay, ummm, I hate to be a bearer of bad news. But did Dr. Deagle mention a city that was flat? Uhhhhhh.. Oh my!

look at this:

What: Presidential Debate: October 7th in Nashville, TN

When: October 7th, 2008 9:00 PM ET

Where: Belmont University, Nashville, TN

Could this be the city in his vision? I hope that homelandsecurity is keeping a close eye on things.

Peace.

Nashville is not flat and Belmont University has some of the steepest hills in the city. Nashville is also the home of the holy grail device, supposedly buried by FDR here under the flag of the three stars (tennessee's flag) in the bicentennial mall which is laid out like a human chakra system. Nashville is possibly the reincarnation of the capital city of atlantis.Check out William Henry's Site: www.williamhenry.net for all the details.

Nashville can't be destroyed it is one of the places where vortices will open on earth during the ascension event.

10-05-2008, 07:23 PM

The audio for the Bill Deagle phone call has been taken down.....Do you think maybe SOMEBODIES took it down?
Maybe he was right on the money?

bluepoint · 10-06-2008, 05:42 PM

Unable to listen to Deagle's phone call. In NYC currently with safe place in mountains 100 miles away. My feelings tell me that there is no need to rush out of city today. Listen to David Wilcock's phone call (available on Project Camelot and Divine Cosmos websites) it will calm your nerves. Listen to David Wilcock... Love u all

sunnyrap · 10-06-2008, 07:58 PM

This is just a FWIW: I stumbled onto this researching an entirely different subject, but it immediately brought Dr. Deagle's dream to mind:

Here's the page it originated from: http://www.edenseve.net/mmm.htm%20th...the%20wood.htm
It's an intriguing story that may have connections to the current larger picture:

*****

To: Majestic-12, Washington, DC From: Col. [Blacked Out], USAF Flight Commander S4, Area 51 Code name: DREAMLAND TS "Majic Q" Clearance-Star-Raker Abduction Experience Classification By : Dr. Richard D. Butler

The following is a brief description of the most commonly reported abduction experience types. It is intended to provide a standard of classification in abduction research. [AE-1] LUCID DREAM This is a lucid dream experience generated internally by the subjects subconscious. There is no Human/ET (Extra-Terrestrial) interaction at any level. They are usually grandiose in nature and lack a logical progression. [AE-2] TECHNO/TELEPATHIC LUCID DREAM These are lucid dream experiences internally generated by external forces. It is ET in origin and accomplished by technologically enhanced psychic intrusion of the subjects subconscious. The subject reports the disassociation or collapse of a normal dream and the insertion of a scenario or message which enhances certain ideals or beliefs. If the subject awakens immediately after they report a circle of glowing whitish colored energy on the ceiling, approx.. 2-3 ft. in diameter. A shaft of the same energy is slowly retracting back into the circle. This shaft is approx.. 3-6in. diameter and 2.5-4ft. long. [AE-3] PSY/BIO ENERGY FIELD EXTRACTION This experience involves the extraction of a conscious energy field from the subjects body. It should not be confused with naturally occurring OBEE phenomena as separation is externally induced. The technology employs the use of a white or bluish-white colored extraction beam. Subjects describe a feeling of deep penetration of this beam throughout their body, followed by the sensation of an irresistible or attractive force. The extracted field maintains cohesion and is capable of perceiving stimuli at a greatly enhanced level. Perceptions include 360 degree sight and sensory feedback at the molecular and even atomic level. Experiences seem to focus around communications and reinsertion of the bio-field into a humanoid body other than the original. It is this type of abduction that accounts for the severe missing time memory failure in some cases. Since the subjects brain is not physically present the memories are not hard written. There does appear to be a shadow memory effect that can retain the memories of the events in some type of energy memory matrix within the subjects bio-field. Full understanding of this process could lead to breakthroughs in education and learning technologies.

10-06-2008, 03:00 AM	#1
TranceAm Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: South Carolina USA Posts: 368	Re: IMPORTANT: Phone Call from Bill Deagle Can someone get a link that works up, I keep getting "400 Bad Request" for the link "http://projectavalon.net/bill_deagle_4_oct_2008.mp3" Thanks in advance. Edit: I am burning to hear what this is about.

10-06-2008, 06:07 PM	#3
bluepoint Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Millerton, NY Posts: 4	Re: IMPORTANT: Like Minded People I am looking to meet like minded people in the tri state area of NY, Conn. and Mass. This area was the arsenal during the Revolutionary and Civil wars, the birthplace of the 2nd Amendment altough this will be different. No violence this time. I feel it will be safe. The Buddhists just opened their North American Headquarters in this area and I take that as a good sign. Bill and Kerry - thank u. Much love coming your way.

10-06-2008, 04:09 AM	#4
Squeptikal Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Near Pittsburgh PA Posts: 52	Re: IMPORTANT: Phone Call from Bill Deagle Dear Bill and all, I don't suppose that it's easy to find people with inside information and it also takes immense work to get those interviews on tape. It seems that you and Kerry do quite a bit of corroboration work with others to authenticate those you present. About the only thing that caused some concern to me was that Dr. Deagle sounded a little drunk on the phone. While this alone does not cause much alarm due to the subject nature and the way in which the good Dr. experienced it, it does tug at the credibility just a bit. A big however is that most people i talk to about this October 7th eventism seem suddenly aware of something and the usual guffaws & put-offs are conspicuously absent and the deer-in-the-headlights looks caused me some fear. Last night i was asking the question "what if it's all bunk?". Tonight with the unusual responses i've gotten i'm asking: what if its true? As much as i try to imagine my neighborhood changed and my friends suddenly enlightened it is also a frightening concept. Most of them don't believe in any conpiracy theories yet they seem intelligent and sane. They tend to look at UFO's and other strange things as ridiculous and those who seek more in that area as morons and mentally bankrupt. I know from my own experience that realization has consequenses almost to hard to bear at times. I really wonder how you guys do it! I want to thank you for being so cool and giving so much of yourselves for this effort. I am quite ready to help in any way I can.

10-07-2008, 02:29 AM	#6
shanonatime Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: philadelphia Posts: 57	Re: IMPORTANT: Phone Call from Bill Deagle Bill, in the last six months or so from you, I have learned to question the rain in my hair... I do mean that as a compliment... I have to learn balance... come to think of it that was a strong symbol in a dream the other night... besisdes all of the scary things here's a random question... does anybody here know writing therapist Caroline Wilson in the UK? anybody? took a class once with her and she was amazing.. have this feeling someone here may know her. Anyhow- this balance is important- questioning everything versus stopping to settle in it, regardless of what shape we find it in... and ourselves...the image in my dream was actually of two weights... like the little ones a rich housewife would take to a fancy gym class... s

10-06-2008, 12:30 AM	#8
Kinetic1 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: IMPORTANT: Phone Call from Bill Deagle It's amazing how no one knew about these so-called "Al-Qaeda" goons until after 9-11. Now, supposedly, we're on the "verge of victory" against these guys according to Ms. Palin. I am really ashamed on how our glorious USG talks down to us like we're a fistfull of idiots. Then we have Fox news which is another faction of lies and crap that they try to feed you and make you believe. When is all of this going to end? I think most of us, deep inside, have a weird feeling of big changes coming on. I do not believe (I better not have to eat my words) what Dr. Deagle had dreams of. I don't believe we'll have a nuclear exchange anytime soon, nor ever. I do believe, however, that we will be going through some very difficult times but we will survive (most of us) and just keep living the natural process of this planet. The main thing to focus on here is to BE POSITIVE, be part of the solution to solve the planet's problems by helping another human.......remember "Pay It Forward".

10-06-2008, 12:33 AM	#9
Average Joe Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 377	Re: IMPORTANT: Phone Call from Bill Deagle I'd just like to point out that everybody, apart from you, knew about these Al Quaeda "goons" before 9/11.

10-05-2008, 07:48 PM	#11
Pressure Drop Guest Posts: n/a	Re: IMPORTANT: Phone Call from Bill Deagle I've been trying to wrap my mind around Bill Deagles phone call since it was posted last night. This in conjunction with the lead up through the half past human phone interview. One thing that I try to take into consideration in relation to use this type is what kind of response it evokes inside of me. Over these last few days I unfortunately have been living in a fear response which has led to a slight degree of panic on my part. Unfortunately each time something like this transpires I seem to forget the last time it happened. But the result is always the same. Whatever it was I was terrified of and existing in a state of fear around, either did not transpire or came about in a manner little resembling the initial reaction . While it is very likely that some event may transpire on the seventh of October I would be more inclined to align my thoughts and hopes with what David Wilcock and others have been putting forth. This is for two reasons the first being a lot of the people who have been offering positive prospects for the future seem to have a lot more information in relation to who they and where they come from .with this said I would appreciate it if someone could tell me exactly who Bill Deagle is .This morning I realized I was freaking out over something someone had said and that someone was a person who I had never heard of before. I could get equally worked up over the yearly coast to coast the phone in prophecy show they do each new year. Not to mention the fact that history is littered with people making dire prophecies that never transpire. Please don't get me wrong I am completely on board with the belief that the human race is about to make a massive jump in consciousness. And in this process there could be much turmoil that transpires.But something tells me that this can only be done through the sacrifice and surrender of our fears .(please note that these words come from an ex-survivalist and ex-member of an apocalypse cult). My second point is to concur with the person who posted the suspicion that this had the earmarks of a psychic attack. I think the evidence of this is pretty much in plain sight. At least for myself it threatened to push me off into a state of personal chaos. I had to remind myself that we are essentially at war right now. And this war is one of the spiritual nature. It would make sense to take a swipe at a group of people who are trying sincerely to make a difference. If we refer back to the interview with Cliff High he states that release language has neither a positive or negative alignment. If I wanted to take a shot at all the people who are participating in what project Avalon is doing I would've seen this as a perfect opportunity to inject fear or into this corner of the matrix.(please note that when I say war I believe we are using the force of love to combat our enemy, please pardon the mild contradiction through the use of the word war. Spiritual pillow fight doesn't seem to fit the bill) Or I could be totally wrong and were heading up crap creek without a plank to paddle. Only time will tell I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. Frank Herbert -Dune Hmm hmm hmm, yeah... It is you (oh yeah) It is you, you (oh yeah) It is you (oh yeah) Cause a pressure drop, oh pressure Oh yeah pressure drop a drop on you I say a pressure drop, oh pressure Oh yeah pressure drop a drop on you I say when it drops, oh you gonna feel it Know that you were doing wrong. Hmm hmm hmm, yeah... I say a pressure drop, oh pressure Oh yeah, pressure drop a drop on you Toots And The Maytals - Pressure Drop

10-05-2008, 08:03 PM	#12
bill Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 9	Re: IMPORTANT: Phone Call from Bill Deagle Listening to Wilcock he comes off as a cocky overconfident self serving loon he says ' I don't want to bad mouth Dr Deagle ' and then proceeds to bad mouth Dr Deagle with inuendo and rumor and gossip Wilcock I have benn following Dr Deagle of and on for 8 or 10 years -- he is a very talented and loving man the real deal "not bill Ryan"

10-05-2008, 07:23 PM	#15
Sunrider Guest Posts: n/a	Re: IMPORTANT: Phone Call from Bill Deagle The audio for the Bill Deagle phone call has been taken down.....Do you think maybe SOMEBODIES took it down? Maybe he was right on the money?

10-06-2008, 05:42 PM	#16
bluepoint Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Millerton, NY Posts: 4	Re: IMPORTANT: Phone Call from Bill Deagle Unable to listen to Deagle's phone call. In NYC currently with safe place in mountains 100 miles away. My feelings tell me that there is no need to rush out of city today. Listen to David Wilcock's phone call (available on Project Camelot and Divine Cosmos websites) it will calm your nerves. Listen to David Wilcock... Love u all

10-06-2008, 07:58 PM	#17
sunnyrap Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 147	Re: IMPORTANT: Phone Call from Bill Deagle This is just a FWIW: I stumbled onto this researching an entirely different subject, but it immediately brought Dr. Deagle's dream to mind: Here's the page it originated from: http://www.edenseve.net/mmm.htm%20th...the%20wood.htm It's an intriguing story that may have connections to the current larger picture: ***** To: Majestic-12, Washington, DC From: Col. [Blacked Out], USAF Flight Commander S4, Area 51 Code name: DREAMLAND TS "Majic Q" Clearance-Star-Raker Abduction Experience Classification By : Dr. Richard D. Butler The following is a brief description of the most commonly reported abduction experience types. It is intended to provide a standard of classification in abduction research. [AE-1] LUCID DREAM This is a lucid dream experience generated internally by the subjects subconscious. There is no Human/ET (Extra-Terrestrial) interaction at any level. They are usually grandiose in nature and lack a logical progression. [AE-2] TECHNO/TELEPATHIC LUCID DREAM These are lucid dream experiences internally generated by external forces. It is ET in origin and accomplished by technologically enhanced psychic intrusion of the subjects subconscious. The subject reports the disassociation or collapse of a normal dream and the insertion of a scenario or message which enhances certain ideals or beliefs. If the subject awakens immediately after they report a circle of glowing whitish colored energy on the ceiling, approx.. 2-3 ft. in diameter. A shaft of the same energy is slowly retracting back into the circle. This shaft is approx.. 3-6in. diameter and 2.5-4ft. long. [AE-3] PSY/BIO ENERGY FIELD EXTRACTION This experience involves the extraction of a conscious energy field from the subjects body. It should not be confused with naturally occurring OBEE phenomena as separation is externally induced. The technology employs the use of a white or bluish-white colored extraction beam. Subjects describe a feeling of deep penetration of this beam throughout their body, followed by the sensation of an irresistible or attractive force. The extracted field maintains cohesion and is capable of perceiving stimuli at a greatly enhanced level. Perceptions include 360 degree sight and sensory feedback at the molecular and even atomic level. Experiences seem to focus around communications and reinsertion of the bio-field into a humanoid body other than the original. It is this type of abduction that accounts for the severe missing time memory failure in some cases. Since the subjects brain is not physically present the memories are not hard written. There does appear to be a shadow memory effect that can retain the memories of the events in some type of energy memory matrix within the subjects bio-field. Full understanding of this process could lead to breakthroughs in education and learning technologies.