Bill Ryan's thread - Page 17

IMU · 12-31-2009, 01:43 AM

Hi there!
I've just stumbled upon a brand new video on youtube called "Jordan Maxwell exposed debunked" and it contradicts Jordan's statements one by one showing a lecture given by him. What do you make of that? Who's right? I kinda like Jordan...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BApH6McCLoc

Majorion · 12-31-2009, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IMU

Hi there!
I've just stumbled upon a brand new video on youtube called "Jordan Maxwell exposed debunked" and it contradicts Jordan's statements one by one showing a lecture given by him. What do you make of that? Who's right? I kinda like Jordan...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BApH6McCLoc

Jordan really opened my eyes with his keen observations regarding symbols. A master at that. His website is very very good, I even showed some of my more "skeptical" type friends and they were extremely impressed.

Only, on a couple other things I totally disagree with JM.

Peace

Bill Ryan · 12-31-2009, 09:18 AM

Hello, Everyone:

This is a really quick message to say hello to all, and wish everyone a Happy New Year which contains everything you and we would all want for ourselves and the world.

I've been pretty much offline for the last week, and I'll continue to be offline until Sunday (2 Jan). After that I'll be able to return to this thread and will continue to answer questions and contribute as best I can. (Clearly I need to allocate several hours for this! And I'm looking forward to it.)

Most of you will have seen this already, but I do highly recommend this personal interview (done solo only because Kerry was not available) which represents most of my worldview and opinions pretty well - and is a very clear representation of everything Camelot stands for so far. Some of your questions may already be answered in it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ic70cVN5IdQ

Warmest regards to everyone - Bill

Flying Pyramid · 01-01-2010, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

Hello, Everyone:

This is a really quick message to say hello to all, and wish everyone a Happy New Year which contains everything you and we would all want for ourselves and the world.

I've been pretty much offline for the last week, and I'll continue to be offline until Sunday (2 Jan). After that I'll be able to return to this thread and will continue to answer questions and contribute as best I can. (Clearly I need to allocate several hours for this! And I'm looking forward to it.)

Most of you will have seen this already, but I do highly recommend this personal interview (done solo only because Kerry was not available) which represents most of my worldview and opinions pretty well - and is a very clear representation of everything Camelot stands for so far. Some of your questions may already be answered in it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ic70cVN5IdQ

Warmest regards to everyone - Bill

Hey bill.
Hope you and Kerry are haveing a great holiday.
I'm sure your already aware of this, but i want to tell you.......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VST2KKIYn50

Gnosis5 · 01-03-2010, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hippihillbobbi

:cheerfu l_h4h:

i LOVE you people, and i LOVE PC/PA, and Bill & Kerry, and this thread! so much great info .... so many inspiring spirits .... such "inquiring minds"!!!

Bill -- this is my question -- do you think there are any defectors from the Reptilian overlords (Reptilian whistleblowers i guess) who would really like to help the "masses" of us to become awake/aware-enough re: the above-top-secret stuff (how we are being controlled/manipulated, off-planet bases and civilizations, free energy, etc.) that we can more consciously and deliberately as a race (human) strive to save our mother-earth and contribute to the well-being of our fellow travellers. In other words, is it possible for these entities ("royal reptilians") to empathize/sympathize with human beings enough to reject their own heritage to try to help us in a truly compassionate way??? would this be analagous to a human being who tries to help/save cattle from being used to advance our human agenda???

Thanks so much, bill & kerry, for sharing yourselves so generously. you are real heroes! May those of us who have come to respect your work and love your spirit follow your examples of courage, vision, and generosity. ya'll are Love Personified(at least on your best days!) Your friends and fans are MUCH blessed!

Great question! In one of my hubby's sessions he was a reptilian and he really did not want to be there killing humans. He accidentally scared a human to death and he felt so much remorse but he had to hide it from his group, especially the leader of the team. That's hard to do when everyone is supposed to be telepathically open. So , yes there are good reptilians.

Gnosis

wrightio · 01-04-2010, 03:40 PM

Please! What has being or turning vegetarian got to do with all of this? Your strong case has no basis for any of the topics on ProjectAvalon or ProjectCamelot. To me you are just speaking nonsense and nothing related to this thread. If you really want to learn about vegetarianism http://www.beyondveg.com/ will perhaps enlighten you to the pitfalls and perils.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bashi

Hi, i am new here.
After all the info put out and interviews done by Bill and Kerry, it has become quite clear that mankind is at a crucial junction for its future development. At the same time we are under massive influence and attack by the “dark” side in order to facilitate a particular outcome which for most of us is not desirable.
The workings of the “dark” powers are by most of us not well understood and definitely underestimated. I guess that just few of us were attacked, manipulated or influenced and came out of it unharmed and complete.
Because the playing – level of this “war for our souls” reaches far beyond the material world as we normally know it. We are not talking about weapons or jump-rooms, but about Mind Control, Spiritual Energies, Possession etc.
So how to make a difference? How to become spiritually stronger to stand up against the onslaught? Somehow we have to start, and believe me: Its a long way to go from here…
There is a saying: “Be the change you want to see”.
I think there is a lot of wisdom in it.
Or: “Don’t do to others, what you do not want to be done to yourself”.
What does it mean practically?
We are complaining that the Reptilians are eating human flesh. From their standpoint, why shouldn’t they? They are much more than we are in almost all aspects. Therefore they are regarding us as a resource – as livestock. Are they not having the same approach as we have towards “lower” animals? Additionally we are the only species on earth which is killing itself in Millions, either actively or inactively through hunger, untreated diseases etc. We don’t care for our own species, so why should they?
Eat and be eaten, that’s then the rule . An eye for an eye.
We are only complaining, because we are not at the top of the food-chain, and therefore we fear to be eaten. Don’t you think a cow would not be afraid, if it realizes that it ends up at the abattoir?
Have you heard that the “higher” spiritually developed, benevolent alien races are slaughtering “lower” animals and are eating them? I learned only about “Fruitarians”, drinking “liquid light” or direct energy assimilation.
So, for our (selfish) benefit, I want to make a strong case for becoming a vegetarian. In my opinion that’s one of the base stones for a strong spiritual development and protection. You don’t have to become member of any group or sect to start it. If you would really listen to your heart, then you would already be a vegetarian.
Before talking about how to gain psychic powers to fight the “dark” enemy, you should be sure about your personal moral stand. Power without love and compassion is extremly dangerous.
My opinion is: Develop your heart and LOVE first. Because in that field we are by far superior than the Reptilians and many other alien races. You can´t fight with a Reptilian by using weapons or psychic powers, because you are bound to loose. But what you can do is to respect and LOVE them.
Yes , I am serious: LOVE the Reptilians !
Because they can´t stand the high LOVE vibration and they will retreat and leave you alone (probably only for some time until they learned their lesson, because they are very stubborn).
That’s how to make a stand and keep the battle ground.
Start with yourself: Fight the temptation of the tongue and become a veggie. Then discuss within your friends and family. That’s to start making a difference.
Becoming a veggie is a first step to improved protection; because the more exposed you are, the more vicious the attacks. That’s not easy: Once they are hooked into you, your chances are diminished. Many are getting lead away into the dark, only to never resurface without help.
While I am not sure that Dr. Greer has been able to protect himself, I noticed that Bill and Kerry are seemingly doing well. And I don’t think that’s only because of the White Hat´s protective Psi-Ops.

So, my question to Bill:
"You briefly mentioned in the Freedom Central interview that you are doing some daily spiritual exercise.
Can you elaborate on that without creating a new sect?"

.

Gnosis5 · 12-28-2009, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spregovori

Hi Bill

Would it be possible to get PC whistle blowers and other people you interviewed (including Greer) all together in one room....no cameras...not tape recorders...no "outside people" and let them talk to each-other...exchange experiences...compare notes....solve and re-solve the contradictions....

no need to come out with the working 0 energy device or a detailed plan on how to make it...you made it clear not doing that keeps you all alive...ok

but how about coming out (in general...no great specifics if you can not) with some common ground you can all work on....

the point is in getting together...insiders connecting the dots...better organization....better knowledge...gaining an advantage....solving the BIG QUESTION....focusing on the main point....setting a goal....finding the final answer....

i am willing to donate (more than people donate on average) to that cause happening...and I think there are many others that would see the benefit for all of us in this happening that would also donate (if need be)...like traveling expenses etc...

etc

EDIT:typos

You are onto something there and I see Kerry was enjoying the advantage of bringing in other whistleblowers during her radio show with David Wilcock: They would SKYPE her as she was conducting the interview and that helped her put the pieces together faster. This radio show idea is where she is really going to show her native and honed talents.

Gnosis

Bobbie · 12-29-2009, 04:02 PM

Forgive me for posting on Bill's thread without posing a question to him but I didn't want HENNA'S post to go unacknowledged. Your thinking HENNA, on this issue, is pretty much in line with my thinking - sounds pretty level headed to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HENNA

That is weird, I just got done reading the whole Wilcock ebook. Anyway, I am usually a fan of David's, some times things that he says raises a "mind flag" with me though. I have only read a couple things of Fulfords. His economic tales seem a bit wack..but that is just me.

As far as the Obama opinions, I would have to side with Fulford on this one. Something is just not right with David's story. He is fully defending (and is accusing anyone that doesn't agree of being a fear monger) a communist set of ideals and says that it is ok to do this because they are not one of the other 2 factions, so they must be good guys. I can't in good conscious stand behind socialist ideals because they coincide with a faction that might be behind a disclosure movement.
Does disclosure automatically give us free energy, peace on earth, no illness, no war, no pollution and a Kumbaya song for all? I am thinking the truth is what is right, disclosure is right, but it is not going to solve all our problems. Neither is Obama

Moxie · 12-29-2009, 01:10 AM

Absolutely stunning interjection Abraxasinas... is anyone paying attention?

I see it clearly that when we or other whisltleblowers use the "positive" or "negative" terms, please discern & keep them in context.

What I mean is that, even the "fallen" Zeta (fallen in quotations because it's context that matters), the ones whose agenda has us being taken into the "death" science... they are those have found themselves trapped, disconnected, having resorted to tampering w/we humans for their very survival, being skilled in ways we are not and we being skilled in ways they are no longer able,... that of the heart.... and steering us, quite scientifically, toward what we would normally deem hellish... howEver, it is their only seeming route Out of the mess they are in.... Now..

Doing your own internal cleansing, do you not find within your own lives (this one, as you more than likely have no recall of any other)
plenty of experiences that you would deem as not very savory?
Are there not defectors all the time from black-hats ?<< whistleblowers coming "clean" after having lived lives orchestrating their dirty deeds for whatever reasons at 'those' times...

not to mention that the "positive" Guardians, who are now being depicted as recognizable w/tools to get on board, have RULES... there are Rules, laws of operation, Universal Codes of Conduct, etc... that prevent their intervention beCAUSE WE, duh, have you figured it out yet?are or have been giving our power away, not only out of ignorance but even willingly, as is the case with some of our own human-being-family...<< ignorance/willfull cooperation/ whatever the reasons.. there are LAWS/CosmicUniversal Treaties of respecting a sovereing being (even if you are not cognizant that you are )...

the (what we'd deem) benevolent ones do not directly intervene
WITHOUT YOUR EXPRESSED INVITATION....howEVER, we do not have enough information or hearted insight to even know for sure who they are...

There IS a way... there is Technology... there Is means to gain or shall I say, RE-GAIN what we've given away...

How can your decieved mind guide you towards Knowing?
THAT is the question.

Ask good questions.... Clean House,

I think that Greer states that there ARE NO BAD ETs because he realizes that we are ALL one family.... howEVER some of us are misdirected... are you one of them? Are you sure that you are not?
What difference does it make if you make a choice NOW, on you knees uncled to it!

I hope I've made some sense.. I wanted to write a paragraph or two from Voyagers I... as she posits this idea much more clearly than I do.

You must know who it is you are inviting... as it is the point that you DO the asking, the Invite! But you must know who it is you are dealing with, as there are those that are extremely desparate to survive and will do (with more limitations emotionally than your self but with more technology) whatever they must do to survive.

I cannot stress enough that we are ALL in this together, not just earth beings.... what is to come down soon involves much more than just we earthlings. Get OUT of your panic & fear and spend just about a week, geesh, a freaking week reading Ashayana Dean's work... take your time because your fear just restricts yourself... just a dazzling week of time.

I'm going ahead and sending this and will probably be a bit sorry for it, however, I just, at this point, don't care how I come off...
I CARE about all of you, the good and the bad... such an extraordinary time!

HeartFelts to EveryOne

pineal-pilot-in merkabah · 12-29-2009, 02:26 AM

i do get the feeling that david wilcock is obsessed by disclosure whatever the 'price' might be. his article is however excellent and he does a good job of peiceing the history together.

i like wilcock and fullford but take what they say with a pinch of salt as with anyone else. we do see evidence to suggest a power structure failure in play though whatever that may encompass.

twelvestrand · 12-29-2009, 03:21 AM

Hi Bill,

Hopefully this hasn't been asked before, I've been following this thread for a couple of weeks now and haven't seen this yet... but I could have over looked it. If anyone else who happens to read this has an idea, then please feel free to respond.

Question:
I, and I'm sure many others, would like to know where we might be able to find some of L. Ron Hubbard's original techniques that were used to recover ones soul memories from previous incarnations... as mentioned in the Dane Tops interview transcript.

Hypnosis regression was mentioned in the interview to be not the correct way...which disappoints me because I had found someone local and now I am having second thoughts.

Thanks

Gnosis5 · 12-29-2009, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twelvestrand

Hi Bill,

Hopefully this hasn't been asked before, I've been following this thread for a couple of weeks now and haven't seen this yet... but I could have over looked it. If anyone else who happens to read this has an idea, then please feel free to respond.

Question:
I, and I'm sure many others, would like to know where we might be able to find some of L. Ron Hubbard's original techniques that were used to recover ones soul memories from previous incarnations... as mentioned in the Dane Tops interview transcript.

Hypnosis regression was mentioned in the interview to be not the correct way...which disappoints me because I had found someone local and now I am having second thoughts.

Thanks

My clearing practitioner is using a combination of original techniques and I have been recovering my memories of previous incarnations at least 3 times a week and lately every day. I am back to a period of my existence where there does not seem to have been a concept of time as we have it today.

We work over the phone or SKYPE. If you would like to ask him questions PM me. I get no monetary gain from introducing him and I am not clearing people for monetary gain. I have secured my income from other sources and am quite happy seeking my own immortality with some remote processing to help lift the suppression on the planet.

Enuf said, others will have something to say too and I welcome other clearing paths and honor them.

Gnosis

Moxie · 12-29-2009, 04:11 AM

Apparently Bill is not participating for days now and this thread has turned into a philosophical exchange...
I do receive a daily digest as I have subscribed to this thread... and quite frankly, I'm tired of reading "others' thoughts....
why not (everyone) just back off talking at all here...
keep this thread Bill's thread....
he will talk back when he's ready....
22 pages, much of it 'you know who you are" that can't stop piping in w/your "knowledge"l tyvm

Gnosis5 · 12-29-2009, 05:51 AM

This IS Bill's thread!!

Gnosis

Gnosis5 · 12-29-2009, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moxie

Absolutely stunning interjection Abraxasinas... is anyone paying attention?

I see it clearly that when we or other whisltleblowers use the "positive" or "negative" terms, please discern & keep them in context.

What I mean is that, even the "fallen" Zeta (fallen in quotations because it's context that matters), the ones whose agenda has us being taken into the "death" science... they are those have found themselves trapped, disconnected, having resorted to tampering w/we humans for their very survival, being skilled in ways we are not and we being skilled in ways they are no longer able,... that of the heart.... and steering us, quite scientifically, toward what we would normally deem hellish... howEver, it is their only seeming route Out of the mess they are in.... Now..

Doing your own internal cleansing, do you not find within your own lives (this one, as you more than likely have no recall of any other)
plenty of experiences that you would deem as not very savory?
Are there not defectors all the time from black-hats ?<< whistleblowers coming "clean" after having lived lives orchestrating their dirty deeds for whatever reasons at 'those' times...

not to mention that the "positive" Guardians, who are now being depicted as recognizable w/tools to get on board, have RULES... there are Rules, laws of operation, Universal Codes of Conduct, etc... that prevent their intervention beCAUSE WE, duh, have you figured it out yet?are or have been giving our power away, not only out of ignorance but even willingly, as is the case with some of our own human-being-family...<< ignorance/willfull cooperation/ whatever the reasons.. there are LAWS/CosmicUniversal Treaties of respecting a sovereing being (even if you are not cognizant that you are )...

the (what we'd deem) benevolent ones do not directly intervene
WITHOUT YOUR EXPRESSED INVITATION....howEVER, we do not have enough information or hearted insight to even know for sure who they are...

There IS a way... there is Technology... there Is means to gain or shall I say, RE-GAIN what we've given away...

How can your decieved mind guide you towards Knowing?
THAT is the question.

Ask good questions.... Clean House,

I think that Greer states that there ARE NO BAD ETs because he realizes that we are ALL one family.... howEVER some of us are misdirected... are you one of them? Are you sure that you are not?
What difference does it make if you make a choice NOW, on you knees uncled to it!

I hope I've made some sense.. I wanted to write a paragraph or two from Voyagers I... as she posits this idea much more clearly than I do.

You must know who it is you are inviting... as it is the point that you DO the asking, the Invite! But you must know who it is you are dealing with, as there are those that are extremely desparate to survive and will do (with more limitations emotionally than your self but with more technology) whatever they must do to survive.

I cannot stress enough that we are ALL in this together, not just earth beings.... what is to come down soon involves much more than just we earthlings. Get OUT of your panic & fear and spend just about a week, geesh, a freaking week reading Ashayana Dean's work... take your time because your fear just restricts yourself... just a dazzling week of time.

I'm going ahead and sending this and will probably be a bit sorry for it, however, I just, at this point, don't care how I come off...
I CARE about all of you, the good and the bad... such an extraordinary time!

HeartFelts to EveryOne

Moxie, this is my life's work, helping traumatized people and beings (remotely in their case) relieve themselves of what has been called modernly, "The Stockholm Syndrome". Everytime we process an "Evil ET" he comes to his sense and takes early retirement.

Anyone who is clearing themselves will eventually reach the point where they can look at another being and clear him too. Everyone goes home with a door prize :-)

I hope I contributed to the essence of your post.

love,
gnosis

abraxasinas · 12-29-2009, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moxie

Absolutely stunning interjection Abraxasinas... is anyone paying attention?

I see it clearly that when we or other whisltleblowers use the "positive" or "negative" terms, please discern & keep them in context.

What I mean is that, even the "fallen" Zeta (fallen in quotations because it's context that matters), the ones whose agenda has us being taken into the "death" science... they are those have found themselves trapped, disconnected, having resorted to tampering w/we humans for their very survival, being skilled in ways we are not and we being skilled in ways they are no longer able,... that of the heart.... and steering us, quite scientifically, toward what we would normally deem hellish... howEver, it is their only seeming route Out of the mess they are in.... Now..

Doing your own internal cleansing, do you not find within your own lives (this one, as you more than likely have no recall of any other)
plenty of experiences that you would deem as not very savory?
Are there not defectors all the time from black-hats ?<< whistleblowers coming "clean" after having lived lives orchestrating their dirty deeds for whatever reasons at 'those' times...

not to mention that the "positive" Guardians, who are now being depicted as recognizable w/tools to get on board, have RULES... there are Rules, laws of operation, Universal Codes of Conduct, etc... that prevent their intervention beCAUSE WE, duh, have you figured it out yet?are or have been giving our power away, not only out of ignorance but even willingly, as is the case with some of our own human-being-family...

Hi Moxie!

I find this thread rather hard to follow and so I missed your post for a while, I apologise for that. The problem is that the ordering in this 'multithread' is not in a time sequence, but in a nesting hierarchy. This nesting hierarchy is very good for a small number of 'subthreads' but becomes confusing if there are many such 'subthreads'.

But your comments are aligned with my understanding. I have interspersed here, because you have mentioned 'the giving our power away'. Yes, this is precisely why there cannot be an 'alien physical contact' and 'for all to see disclosure'.

The present state of human group-consciousness is 95% aligned with 'normal' 5-sense stimulatory reactivity.
And because in the 'cosmic scheme' the major consciousness interaction is from universe to galactic cell to starsystem to planet-moon to regionality to individuated sentience within that regionality; the 'alien' presence must follow the 'natural law' to 'communicate' through this structure of the conduits.

Iow, for 'alien physical contact' to occur, and as many already know, the 'mother consciousness' is required to align to the star consciousness and so forth.
Then the individual human intelligence is required to act as a data/information collector for the planetary consciousness relying information to the higher systems.

This is really omni-science and a physical implementation of the metaphysics but shows that the INABILITY of the human agendas to UNIFY (towards a minimum % of 0.002 or so 1 in 50,000), prevents the 'human groupmind' to act as a COLLECTIVE INTELLIGENCE.

Once there are enough humans, individualised in creativity and being YET UNIFIED in say PHILOSOPHY or (religion or science or some other form of deep inner understanding about themselves, origins, reality etc); THEN this 'STARMIND' will MIRROR in the GAIAN mothermind reflect to the SOLAR Mind reflect back to the galaxy and so on.

Most people have it back to front.
It is not what the aliens can give us, but what what we can give to them.
It is not that we ar3e waiting for them, it is them who are waiting for us.
To get the Story about ourselves right - in simplest terms.

But I better stop, as this kind of talk seems a little 'off topic'.
If you like Moxie, you can start a new thread someplace and we can talk about the details and of course with anyone else who would like to contribute.

Abraxasinas

<< ignorance/willfull cooperation/ whatever the reasons.. there are LAWS/CosmicUniversal Treaties of respecting a sovereing being (even if you are not cognizant that you are )...

the (what we'd deem) benevolent ones do not directly intervene
WITHOUT YOUR EXPRESSED INVITATION....howEVER, we do not have enough information or hearted insight to even know for sure who they are...

There IS a way... there is Technology... there Is means to gain or shall I say, RE-GAIN what we've given away...

How can your decieved mind guide you towards Knowing?
THAT is the question.

Ask good questions.... Clean House,

I think that Greer states that there ARE NO BAD ETs because he realizes that we are ALL one family.... howEVER some of us are misdirected... are you one of them? Are you sure that you are not?
What difference does it make if you make a choice NOW, on you knees uncled to it!

I hope I've made some sense.. I wanted to write a paragraph or two from Voyagers I... as she posits this idea much more clearly than I do.

You must know who it is you are inviting... as it is the point that you DO the asking, the Invite! But you must know who it is you are dealing with, as there are those that are extremely desparate to survive and will do (with more limitations emotionally than your self but with more technology) whatever they must do to survive.

I cannot stress enough that we are ALL in this together, not just earth beings.... what is to come down soon involves much more than just we earthlings. Get OUT of your panic & fear and spend just about a week, geesh, a freaking week reading Ashayana Dean's work... take your time because your fear just restricts yourself... just a dazzling week of time.

I'm going ahead and sending this and will probably be a bit sorry for it, however, I just, at this point, don't care how I come off...
I CARE about all of you, the good and the bad... such an extraordinary time!

HeartFelts to EveryOne

Hi Moxie!

I find this thread rather hard to follow and so I missed your post for a while, I apologise for that. The problem is that the ordering in this 'multithread' is not in a time sequence, but in a nesting hierarchy. This nesting hierarchy is very good for a small number of 'subthreads' but becomes confusing if there are many such 'subthreads'.

But your comments are aligned with my understanding. I have interspersed here, because you have mentioned 'the giving our power away'. Yes, this is precisely why there cannot be an 'alien physical contact' and 'for all to see disclosure'.

The present state of human group-consciousness is 95% aligned with 'normal' 5-sense stimulatory reactivity.
And because in the 'cosmic scheme' the major consciousness interaction is from universe to galactic cell to starsystem to planet-moon to regionality to individuated sentience within that regionality; the 'alien' presence must follow the 'natural law' to 'communicate' through this structure of the conduits.

Iow, for 'alien physical contact' to occur, and as many already know, the 'mother consciousness' is required to align to the star consciousness and so forth.
Then the individual human intelligence is required to act as a data/information collector for the planetary consciousness relying information to the higher systems.

This is really omni-science and a physical implementation of the metaphysics but shows that the INABILITY of the human agendas to UNIFY (towards a minimum % of 0.002 or so 1 in 50,000), prevents the 'human groupmind' to act as a COLLECTIVE INTELLIGENCE.

Once there are enough humans, individualised in creativity and being YET UNIFIED in say PHILOSOPHY or (religion or science or some other form of deep inner understanding about themselves, origins, reality etc); THEN this 'STARMIND' will MIRROR in the GAIAN mothermind reflect to the SOLAR Mind reflect back to the galaxy and so on.

Most people have it back to front.
It is not what the aliens can give us, but what what we can give to them.
It is not that we ar3e waiting for them, it is them who are waiting for us.
To get the Story about ourselves right - in simplest terms.

But I better stop, as this kind of talk seems a little 'off topic'.
If you like Moxie, you can start a new thread someplace and we can talk about the details and of course with anyone else who would like to contribute.

Abraxasinas

BROOK · 12-29-2009, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moxie

You must know who it is you are inviting... as it is the point that you DO the asking, the Invite! But you must know who it is you are dealing with, as there are those that are extremely desparate to survive and will do (with more limitations emotionally than your self but with more technology) whatever they must do to survive.

I cannot stress enough that we are ALL in this together, not just earth beings.... what is to come down soon involves much more than just we earthlings. Get OUT of your panic & fear and spend just about a week, geesh, a freaking week reading Ashayana Dean's work... take your time because your fear just restricts yourself... just a dazzling week of time.

I'm going ahead and sending this and will probably be a bit sorry for it, however, I just, at this point, don't care how I come off...
I CARE about all of you, the good and the bad... such an extraordinary time!

HeartFelts to EveryOne

Very well said..and I very much agree

Dougall · 12-31-2009, 02:59 AM

Nevermind

twelvestrand · 12-31-2009, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dougall

All this spirituality and conscious raising stuff is silly.

Are you serious?

....surely your in the wrong place to be saying stuff like that....

Again this is BILL RYAN'S THREAD for questions and itelligent discussion.... not voice your oipion thread...

[Double post merged - A..]

IRISH-MYSTIC · 12-11-2009, 03:47 PM

Hi Bill from Ireland! Firstly thanks to you and Kerry for your incredible work ...

Secondly, I suffer from rather bad agorophobia. (Its been a rough life!) I have trawled the self-help literature looking for answers over the past 16years, but to no avail. I was wondering if there is anything in the work of LRON that might be of help to healing such a problem?

I have read some LRON already and was amazed at how precise and concise his writing style. From what I read he did seem to be a man of knowledge?

Anyway, take care and if you're ever in Ireland give me a shout ...

Best wishes, God is Love,

Samuel

migp · 12-11-2009, 03:52 PM

Hil,

I do not know anything about maths, but at first glance it seems to me that this scientist has a similar theory that MR. Nassim Haramein from the Resonance Project.

babylon4truth · 12-11-2009, 08:24 PM

Dr Pete Peterson tells us he has healing devices..........and you can"t get him on the phone?? hmmm don"t sound to good to me

people need help now, so come on Dr Peterson show your hand, or maybe just a load of old bull a bill??

Shambala2012 · 12-11-2009, 11:22 PM

Hey Bill,

This question is somewhat inconsequential but it came up in the discussion that you and Kerry had with the Pickering brothers. You mentioned off-hand that you had recently been given a description of what the Anunnaki looked like. I'm interested to find out what you have been told because in my experience there is quite a lot of conflicting information in this area. For instance, Icke equates them with a possible reptilian appearance (if not without true bodily form due to an inter-dimensional constitution); some of the Pleiadian material of Hand Clow I believe mentions that they may look like giant robotic lizards; as you will recall, Wilcock stated that they look like giant 'super heroes' (basically quite human-looking in elaborate costuming); and others have stated that they resemble our images of the Greek gods, etc. I have even read material that equated the term Anunnaki with the Easter Island visages and even with the Grays (with which I truly disagree). Anyway, what's your take on it?

Thanks

Shambala2012

halebox · 12-12-2009, 04:37 AM

Greer is Queer who cares and who couldn't tell anyways? Stuff like a manhunt account is pretty normal for the gays. Kind of a cheap shot whomever posted that. Bill is not the originator of that link. Actually he probably feels great as he's got nothing to hide about his sexuality at this point.
Love you Bill and Kerry and so glad this sight is FREE as it must be
Also interesting Scientology interview. Ive never heard the other side of the story or was even aware. It sounds like Ron was into some cool research and methods. Had no idea it was taken over at some point.

Aztar · 12-12-2009, 05:02 AM

Hey Bill

Whats your thoughts on Obama?
Discloser president?
NWO puppet?
Messiah?
High tech Golem?

Also if distance is a problem to interview Lou "Sleeper" Baldin, perhaps a Skype audio interview may be easier.

12-31-2009, 01:43 AM	#1
IMU Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 17	Re: Bill Ryan's thread Hi there! I've just stumbled upon a brand new video on youtube called "Jordan Maxwell exposed debunked" and it contradicts Jordan's statements one by one showing a lecture given by him. What do you make of that? Who's right? I kinda like Jordan... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BApH6McCLoc

12-31-2009, 09:18 AM	#3
Bill Ryan Project Avalon Co Founder Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 353	Re: Bill Ryan's thread Hello, Everyone: This is a really quick message to say hello to all, and wish everyone a Happy New Year which contains everything you and we would all want for ourselves and the world. I've been pretty much offline for the last week, and I'll continue to be offline until Sunday (2 Jan). After that I'll be able to return to this thread and will continue to answer questions and contribute as best I can. (Clearly I need to allocate several hours for this! And I'm looking forward to it.) Most of you will have seen this already, but I do highly recommend this personal interview (done solo only because Kerry was not available) which represents most of my worldview and opinions pretty well - and is a very clear representation of everything Camelot stands for so far. Some of your questions may already be answered in it. http://youtube.com/watch?v=ic70cVN5IdQ Warmest regards to everyone - Bill

12-29-2009, 01:10 AM	#9
Moxie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beaver Lake, AR Posts: 402	Re: Bill Ryan's thread Absolutely stunning interjection Abraxasinas... is anyone paying attention? I see it clearly that when we or other whisltleblowers use the "positive" or "negative" terms, please discern & keep them in context. What I mean is that, even the "fallen" Zeta (fallen in quotations because it's context that matters), the ones whose agenda has us being taken into the "death" science... they are those have found themselves trapped, disconnected, having resorted to tampering w/we humans for their very survival, being skilled in ways we are not and we being skilled in ways they are no longer able,... that of the heart.... and steering us, quite scientifically, toward what we would normally deem hellish... howEver, it is their only seeming route Out of the mess they are in.... Now.. Doing your own internal cleansing, do you not find within your own lives (this one, as you more than likely have no recall of any other) plenty of experiences that you would deem as not very savory? Are there not defectors all the time from black-hats ?<< whistleblowers coming "clean" after having lived lives orchestrating their dirty deeds for whatever reasons at 'those' times... not to mention that the "positive" Guardians, who are now being depicted as recognizable w/tools to get on board, have RULES... there are Rules, laws of operation, Universal Codes of Conduct, etc... that prevent their intervention beCAUSE WE, duh, have you figured it out yet?are or have been giving our power away, not only out of ignorance but even willingly, as is the case with some of our own human-being-family...<< ignorance/willfull cooperation/ whatever the reasons.. there are LAWS/CosmicUniversal Treaties of respecting a sovereing being (even if you are not cognizant that you are )... the (what we'd deem) benevolent ones do not directly intervene WITHOUT YOUR EXPRESSED INVITATION....howEVER, we do not have enough information or hearted insight to even know for sure who they are... There IS a way... there is Technology... there Is means to gain or shall I say, RE-GAIN what we've given away... How can your decieved mind guide you towards Knowing? THAT is the question. Ask good questions.... Clean House, I think that Greer states that there ARE NO BAD ETs because he realizes that we are ALL one family.... howEVER some of us are misdirected... are you one of them? Are you sure that you are not? What difference does it make if you make a choice NOW, on you knees uncled to it! I hope I've made some sense.. I wanted to write a paragraph or two from Voyagers I... as she posits this idea much more clearly than I do. You must know who it is you are inviting... as it is the point that you DO the asking, the Invite! But you must know who it is you are dealing with, as there are those that are extremely desparate to survive and will do (with more limitations emotionally than your self but with more technology) whatever they must do to survive. I cannot stress enough that we are ALL in this together, not just earth beings.... what is to come down soon involves much more than just we earthlings. Get OUT of your panic & fear and spend just about a week, geesh, a freaking week reading Ashayana Dean's work... take your time because your fear just restricts yourself... just a dazzling week of time. I'm going ahead and sending this and will probably be a bit sorry for it, however, I just, at this point, don't care how I come off... I CARE about all of you, the good and the bad... such an extraordinary time! HeartFelts to EveryOne

12-29-2009, 02:26 AM	#10
pineal-pilot-in merkabah Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: england Posts: 1,153	Re: Bill Ryan's thread i do get the feeling that david wilcock is obsessed by disclosure whatever the 'price' might be. his article is however excellent and he does a good job of peiceing the history together. i like wilcock and fullford but take what they say with a pinch of salt as with anyone else. we do see evidence to suggest a power structure failure in play though whatever that may encompass.

12-29-2009, 03:21 AM	#11
twelvestrand Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: CT- USA Posts: 7	Re: Bill Ryan's thread Hi Bill, Hopefully this hasn't been asked before, I've been following this thread for a couple of weeks now and haven't seen this yet... but I could have over looked it. If anyone else who happens to read this has an idea, then please feel free to respond. Question: I, and I'm sure many others, would like to know where we might be able to find some of L. Ron Hubbard's original techniques that were used to recover ones soul memories from previous incarnations... as mentioned in the Dane Tops interview transcript. Hypnosis regression was mentioned in the interview to be not the correct way...which disappoints me because I had found someone local and now I am having second thoughts. Thanks Last edited by twelvestrand; 12-29-2009 at 03:29 AM.

12-29-2009, 04:11 AM	#13
Moxie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Beaver Lake, AR Posts: 402	Re: Bill Ryan's thread Apparently Bill is not participating for days now and this thread has turned into a philosophical exchange... I do receive a daily digest as I have subscribed to this thread... and quite frankly, I'm tired of reading "others' thoughts.... why not (everyone) just back off talking at all here... keep this thread Bill's thread.... he will talk back when he's ready.... 22 pages, much of it 'you know who you are" that can't stop piping in w/your "knowledge"l tyvm

12-29-2009, 05:51 AM	#14
Gnosis5 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,659	Re: Bill Ryan's thread This IS Bill's thread!! Gnosis

12-31-2009, 02:59 AM	#18
Dougall Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 46	Re: Bill Ryan's thread Nevermind Last edited by Dougall; 12-31-2009 at 05:25 AM.

12-11-2009, 03:47 PM	#20
IRISH-MYSTIC Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: IRELAND Posts: 5	Lron Hi Bill from Ireland! Firstly thanks to you and Kerry for your incredible work ... Secondly, I suffer from rather bad agorophobia. (Its been a rough life!) I have trawled the self-help literature looking for answers over the past 16years, but to no avail. I was wondering if there is anything in the work of LRON that might be of help to healing such a problem? I have read some LRON already and was amazed at how precise and concise his writing style. From what I read he did seem to be a man of knowledge? Anyway, take care and if you're ever in Ireland give me a shout ... Best wishes, God is Love, Samuel

12-11-2009, 03:52 PM	#21
migp Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 30	Marko Rodin Hil, I do not know anything about maths, but at first glance it seems to me that this scientist has a similar theory that MR. Nassim Haramein from the Resonance Project.

12-11-2009, 08:24 PM	#22
babylon4truth Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2	Re: Bill Ryan's thread Dr Pete Peterson tells us he has healing devices..........and you can"t get him on the phone?? hmmm don"t sound to good to me people need help now, so come on Dr Peterson show your hand, or maybe just a load of old bull a bill??

12-11-2009, 11:22 PM	#23
Shambala2012 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 5	Re: Bill Ryan's thread Hey Bill, This question is somewhat inconsequential but it came up in the discussion that you and Kerry had with the Pickering brothers. You mentioned off-hand that you had recently been given a description of what the Anunnaki looked like. I'm interested to find out what you have been told because in my experience there is quite a lot of conflicting information in this area. For instance, Icke equates them with a possible reptilian appearance (if not without true bodily form due to an inter-dimensional constitution); some of the Pleiadian material of Hand Clow I believe mentions that they may look like giant robotic lizards; as you will recall, Wilcock stated that they look like giant 'super heroes' (basically quite human-looking in elaborate costuming); and others have stated that they resemble our images of the Greek gods, etc. I have even read material that equated the term Anunnaki with the Easter Island visages and even with the Grays (with which I truly disagree). Anyway, what's your take on it? Thanks Shambala2012

12-12-2009, 04:37 AM	#24
halebox Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 61	Re: Bill Ryan's thread Greer is Queer who cares and who couldn't tell anyways? Stuff like a manhunt account is pretty normal for the gays. Kind of a cheap shot whomever posted that. Bill is not the originator of that link. Actually he probably feels great as he's got nothing to hide about his sexuality at this point. Love you Bill and Kerry and so glad this sight is FREE as it must be Also interesting Scientology interview. Ive never heard the other side of the story or was even aware. It sounds like Ron was into some cool research and methods. Had no idea it was taken over at some point. Last edited by halebox; 12-12-2009 at 04:42 AM.

12-12-2009, 05:02 AM	#25
Aztar Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ontario Posts: 137	Re: Bill Ryan's thread Hey Bill Whats your thoughts on Obama? Discloser president? NWO puppet? Messiah? High tech Golem? Also if distance is a problem to interview Lou "Sleeper" Baldin, perhaps a Skype audio interview may be easier. Last edited by Aztar; 12-12-2009 at 05:21 AM.