Indigo

[2infinityandbeyond]

Originally Posted by Phtha

I think this thread proves the falsity of trying to label people.
The fact is indigo is a man made term. It's a label we created.
It divides. As seen by the heat in this thread.
If you consider yourself indigo then, according to what it stands for,
you of all people should realize this and know the danger of it.
Reading through what the requirements are to label yourself indigo, I'm positive most people here at Avalon, and millions more throughout the globe could use the term for themselves.
And according to what indigo is, anyone can become one as it is simply put,
a higher state of consciousness.
No matter what level your current consciousness is at, we all have the ability to transcend,
obtaining higher states comes first with will and desire and second with knowledge and practice.


The whole indigo label thing doesn't sit right with me. We are all,
beings.

Labeling doesnt cause division, stupidity and ignorance causes division.

To asign a name to something is a way im which we can all share a common recognition of a broad subject. Theres nothing wrong with it.
If someone had cancer and you wanted to cure it you would first admit that yes they are different from healthy people, they have cancer and they need to be treated as such.

Only by labeling something can we help it. How else could we communicate this assistance?

See, if i wanted a big debate about Indigos i would have started a debate. I didnt do this because i know the drama that would ensue, although i wouldnt mind debating it i would much rather spend my time continuing with my intent to help people who feel that they somehow fit into this category.

Is there something so terribly wrong with that?

[Phtha]

Originally Posted by 2infinityandbeyond

Labeling doesnt cause division, stupidity and ignorance causes division.

Ignorance yes. I'd never call another person stupid as it puts out a very negative energy. And you are making yourself sound pretty elitist so to speak.

Originally Posted by 2infinityandbeyond

To asign a name to something is a way im which we can all share a common recognition of a broad subject. Theres nothing wrong with it.
If someone had cancer and you wanted to cure it you would first admit that yes they are different from healthy people, they have cancer and they need to be treated as such.
Only by labeling something can we help it. How else could we communicate this assistance?

I don't quite see the connection betwixt cancer and indigo sorry.
If you allow yourself to be sensitive enough it is easy to recognize a kindred spirit, or someone who you relate to. Without the need to label and divide.

Originally Posted by 2infinityandbeyond

See, if i wanted a big debate about Indigos i would have started a debate. I didnt do this because i know the drama that would ensue, although i wouldnt mind debating it i would much rather spend my time continuing with my intent to help people who feel that they somehow fit into this category.

Is there something so terribly wrong with that?

I think the dissonance in this thread answers that question.
Fortunately the cause of debates is not your choice alone, we all have equal say, or do you believe that so called indigos should be above and beyond the
realm of questioning?

The fact is everything you desire can be done without the need to label, due
to the fact that feelings and thoughts often transcend human languages.
Thus the need to label and divide is not needed.

[2infinityandbeyond]

Originally Posted by Phtha

I think the dissonance in this thread answers that question.
Fortunately the cause of debates is not your choice alone, we all have equal say, or do you believe that so called indigos should be above and beyond the
realm of questioning?

No i believe that adults should be able to come onto this forum and continue through their thread with their initial intent.

If you read through my post you will find nothing of the sort indicating this was a debate about indigos, with your researcher status i thought you would have enough courtesy to respect peoples wishes when they post a thread.

And im not sounding elitist, im simply stating a few facts. If some people cant handle that then thats down to their own insecurities, not my problem.

[ForsakenFalcon]

One thing alot of People need to relise or remember is while "Indigo's" rever's to the aura of the soul/person just like any othere spiritual beeing.

"AURA'S CAN & WILL CHANGE COLOUR DETERMIN CERTIAN CERCUMSTANCES"!

now let's look at it from the 95% of ppl from the early 80s were born "Indigo" that does NOT mean they will forever be so and I belive You will find those of use "Selfproclamer's" can safely say We didn't allway's think or feel this way about majority of every aspect of life and liveing it was only once We regained the frequence to become our true colour again do We get the feeling or start to think along the line's We do now.

as for the 5% not born indigo I belive these ppl are well... You know those ppl You meet rarely (hopefully) that just seem to have no reguard for anything or anyone and no awareness of consiquences and inturn basicly just apear souless? I think that's thos 5%.

[Phtha]

Originally Posted by 2infinityandbeyond

And im not sounding elitist, im simply stating a few facts. If some people cant handle that then thats down to their own insecurities, not my problem.

hmm.. according to you, people are ignorant, stupid, and insecure who have a different view then yourself. And you say your not acting elitist?

I understand where you are coming from about your thread, but as you can well see a public forum is the wrong place for that. Your goal is an impossibility.
People such as myself find the label dangerous
and feel the need to express our concern.
Mods would have a hard time enforcing your wish and would upset more people then not if they tried to help.
I really do suggest a blog where you can control the replies. Link it here if you want.

[M&M]

People, please. If this thread was one discussing the existence of indigos you would have all done a great job. But it's more than sharing viewpoints.
Whatever you choose to call them, there is a group of people that are born to be more spiritually enlightened than the average person. Their numbers are drastically increasing. This phenomenon is thought to later reach a higher level of love and understanding through the invisible world.

It is very difficult to explain this process to such an extensive audience as I hardly have any idea of what 'information' (true or not) you have been subject to.

Even more so, a society that sees this group of people as ones who consider themselves to be special because everyone is equal. However, would treat them as everyday outcasts.

All this talk on insulting, going into meaningless details and one on one arguing is not solving anything. To say that it hasn't done the world any good by creating this thread is quite an assumption to make. I bet it's made a difference in someone's life already. Not all solutions would go 'BOOM' in your face.

Give it a chance, put our differences aside and rather watch this thread evolve as people who it was intended for start posting their realities. Be patient, read what they have to say. Maybe then you might see the topic in a whole different light.

[bakseat]

hey...u couldent have discribed me more clearly
i am an indigo child....
thank u 4 those words of wisdem:]

I am more than open to the possibility of indigo, if someone could enlighten me. So please do not take my posts as an attack on indigos, because that is not what they are right now.

My posts are just exposing the holes in 2Infinitys posts, and I highly doubt he speaks for all the people who call themselves indigos.

[2infinityandbeyond]

What i have witnessed here since the creation of this thread is an overwhelming either conscious or unconscious attempt by a few to not only supress but to anihialate the knowledge of the existance of "Indigo" children. Wheter one choses to accept their existance or not is irrelivent, the fact remains that over the past 100 years there has been a massive influx of spiritually aware, and intelectually openminded beings incarnating on planet earth. To a point of where from 1960 - 1987 65% of the population were categorised as sharing a high number of Indigo characteristics.

Which means that if you are reading this you are more then likely an Indigo. Now, the aim of this thread is specifically for the purpose of helping people who fall under this category who find themselves having a very difficult experience here on planet earth. This can range from psychological and emotional problems to suicidal tendencies.

If you are the kind of person who wishes to persue in your agenda to debate indigos on this specific thread and therefore along the way completely destroy the good work that its potential allows then you are doing so for all of the public to see.


This is the last time im writing this warning, continuing to post irrelivent off topic material here will be seen as an act of true evil and begrudgery. For this is not the place for you to debate, it is a place with the potential to help many. And you are truly a tyrant if you try to perverse this course of action any longer.

I hope i make myself clear here. If anyone is in any doubts as to the purpose of this thread please refer back to the first post where it is made crystal clear.

[Phtha]

Originally Posted by 2infinityandbeyond

What i have witnessed here since the creation of this thread is an overwhelming either conscious or unconscious attempt by a few to not only supress but to anihialate the knowledge of the existance of "Indigo" children.

I think you are miss understanding the intent of the "naysayers".
I'm reading the thread a lot differently then you are I guess.
I for 1 don't doubt the existence of indigo whatsoever, and nor have I seen
anyone else who has.
I'm glad people brought up the ego part of it because that is exactly the problem
I see with putting people into a group and saying they are special.
Its ego food.
I could quote many replies from the defenders in this thread alone and prove beyond a doubt
that the ego is getting in the way of their beliefs.

Whether you want to admit it or not, all that is written about indigo is nothing other
then higher states of consciousness.
For the record I first started reading about it years ago.
And as i mentioned before anyone can be "indigo", all that is required is the will to learn and progress.
Of course many do not and will not have that will.
But they are still equals and just as important as any other life that is.

I'll leave you to your thread now but I truly do hope you think deeply about
what danger arises from naming and thus creating division. Yes it may help certain people, but what about the others?
I'm positive we can all help each other without the need for classing and inflating egos on one side of the spectrum and ostrisizing people on the other (It's happening even though I know
it's not your intent).

Originally Posted by Phtha

I think you are miss understanding the intent of the "naysayers".
I'm reading the thread a lot differently then you are I guess.
I for 1 don't doubt the existence of indigo whatsoever, and nor have I seen
anyone else who has.
I'm glad people brought up the ego part of it because that is exactly the problem
I see with putting people into a group and saying they are special.
Its ego food.
I could quote many replies from the defenders in this thread alone and prove beyond a doubt
that the ego is getting in the way of their beliefs.

Whether you want to admit it or not, all that is written about indigo is nothing other
then higher states of consciousness.
For the record I first started reading about it years ago.
And as i mentioned before anyone can be "indigo", all that is required is the will to learn and progress.
Of course many do not and will not have that will.
But they are still equals and just as important as any other life that is.

I'll leave you to your thread now but I truly do hope you think deeply about
what danger arises from naming and thus creating division. Yes it may help certain people, but what about the others?
I'm positive we can all help each other without the need for classing and inflating egos on one side of the spectrum and ostrisizing people on the other (It's happening even though I know
it's not your intent).

perfectly put... thankyou

[dolphin]

from OCEAN WINDS "Indigo is a label, it labels certain set of defined characteristics. According to those specific characteristics... 99.9% of humanity falls under them, the other 0.1% that dont probably being in a coma. "

UNBELIEVABLE...you do not know what you are talking about. before you state things, you had better be informed. so ridiculous to say 99% of the population are indigo. completely false!

why do you guys post such things?...and why do you just try to debunk what is reality? do you guys have some chip on your shoulder- insecure maybe? 2infinity at the beginning of the thread said it's not up for debate, but rather to help those who ARE INDIGO.

amazing how this topic attracts all the negative posters. i wonder why?

Originally Posted by dolphin

from OCEAN WINDS "Indigo is a label, it labels certain set of defined characteristics. According to those specific characteristics... 99.9% of humanity falls under them, the other 0.1% that dont probably being in a coma. "

UNBELIEVABLE...you do not know what you are talking about. before you state things, you had better be informed. so ridiculous to say 99% of the population are indigo. completely false!

why do you guys post such things?...and why do you just try to debunk what is reality? do you guys have some chip on your shoulder- insecure maybe? 2infinity at the beginning of the thread said it's not up for debate, but rather to help those who ARE INDIGO.

amazing how this topic attracts all the negative posters. i wonder why?

lol... exactly the stuff we are concerned about

[2infinityandbeyond]

Originally Posted by OceanWinds

I am more than open to the possibility of indigo, if someone could enlighten me. So please do not take my posts as an attack on indigos, because that is not what they are right now.

My posts are just exposing the holes in 2Infinitys posts, and I highly doubt he speaks for all the people who call themselves indigos.

Please allow this thread to continue along its initial destination.

Your looking for holes in my posts yet fail to recognise the reason that i created this thread in the first place. I came here to help and connect with people who find themselves having extreme difficulty in their lives right now.

Your standing in the way of this right now. And your robbing someone somewhere of the opportunity to avail of this post in a constructive manner.
For all you know your actions could be the cause of someone going through with their long threatened departure from this world because there was no one out there to listen to them.

If you continue to post like you are, just know your on a public stage here. Everyone will watch you continue your little endeavour which is just stealing time from a good cause.

I know your not the kind of person who would do this intentionally. So now that you know please do show some consideration, and either add to this post constructivly following its initial intent or dont interact with it at all.

Its your call.

[being]

http://www.gnosticteachings.org/foru...topic=5205&hl=

Here is a good discusion on this topic from another source.

[2infinityandbeyond]

...This instrument, being in her sixties, is one of the early type of wanderers that no longer are coming among you. This instrument and many, indeed, millions of those who were called to the travail of your planet, came among you as pioneers of a kind. They choose to incarnate in third-density bodies, but they also chose to come into third density with a certain degree of awareness of their home densities, which were mostly of those of fifth-density and sixth-density social memory complexes.

There are a few fourth-density positively-oriented wanderers among you at this time, but, for the most part, if you are a wanderer you are probably from the density of wisdom or from the density of unity, that density in which wisdom and love are balanced.

Indeed, the majority of those who are among you at this time as positively-oriented wanderers are those from the sixth density. And your interest in coming to the Earth at this time was to improve the balance of love and wisdom in your active, conscious personality.

The reason this was so attractive to you is that within the boot camp atmosphere of third density you can get a lot done in a short time if you have the dedication of your will to a chosen and carefully manicured or articulated goal. The key is continually to review your goal and dedication so that you maintain a focus over time.

The great difficulty with wanderers of this type is that they may fail to wake up to who they are. Many of those among your wanderer population on this planet have indeed not awakened. However, under the pressure of the increasing dynamic between the new fourth-density energy and the old third-density energy, the polarity that is native to each of your systems is being tweaked and prodded by the dynamic energies so that it becomes more and more obvious to entities that there is something going on to which they need to wake up. That is one large generation of those to whom this information is especially important and attractive.

The next wave of entities which came upon your planet is of those which arrived in births during the 60s and 70s. These were an intermediate type of wanderer whose goals were not so much oriented to work in consciousness within their own personalities. These were personalities who were still hearing the travail of planet Earth as the planet itself became more and more reactive to the energies of hostility and aggression that have been increasing among your global population in response to the increasing dynamic betwixt the light and the dark, that is which is to come and that which is ending.

These entities were less concerned with their own studies in learning and more concerned, in a more urgent fashion or more of a feeling of urgency to wake up and create a shift in consciousness among the tribes of Earth. Among these wanderers, there is a tendency to be overly concerned with the urgency of the situation. In so many cases the problem is not waking them up but rather moving them to a more balanced and calm point of view where their very real skills can be used more fully. And so, to this very large bunch of wanderers, we find the challenges of awakening being very slight but the challenges of spiritual maturity to be much larger.

The third generation of those who have moved into the energies of planet Earth at this time from other places in space and time are those pioneers of fourth density who have wandered here with the firm intention of helping not only the planet’s people, but the planet itself. These entities are equipped with the ability to withstand a tremendous amount of disharmony and chaos. They do not do this with a great deal of native joy, but their makeup is such that they are capable of independent action and have little use for the traditional kind of authority which expresses itself in your established religions and those cultural icons such as the classical philosophies and so forth. To these entities, the Earth itself is speaking.

These entities are often called the Indigo Children or the Crystal Children. There are many words that try to describe the difference betwixt this generation of wanderers and previous ones. The hallmark of this breed is an insensitivity to traditional modes of expressing religious dedication while maintaining a great sensitivity and an authentic feeling for the most intensive kind of work in consciousness that is chosen by the self for the self and created as an individual expression rather than there being a great desire to become a part of an already established religion.

Nevertheless, in this last generation of wanderers there remains a feeling for the group. So you will find entities in all three generations whose interest includes the desire to reconnect with their families.

This group of large groups constitutes the wanderer population of planet Earth.

We naturally encourage all wanderers to awaken and to be aware that entities that they meet may well be entities [of] their larger group, since there are millions of wanderers upon Earth. They have in common a tremendous love for the planet, for its people and for the Creator and a serene and undisturbed belief and faith, in an unconscious and carefully protected part of the personality shell, that they are in the Creator’s service and part of the godhead principle.

There is a small group of entities who are native to the planet Earth. These entities have won through, in some cases, to graduation and have indeed graduated but have decided to move back into third-density incarnation to see what they can do to bring the rest of the people of the planet along with them in embracing the light.

Then there are people who come from many different places, who have entered your planetary system as souls from other third-density planets that have failed to complete their third density. These include entities from the planet you know as Mars, where they were unable to finish out third density because of creating conditions that made their third-density planet uninhabitable. These entities have in common with the Indigo wanderers a great desire to be stewards of planet Earth, to stop the destruction of the planet that your people have thoughtlessly promulgated over the last 200 or so of your years and to restore and constitute a healthy third density to leave behind as third-density [as] planet Earth closes itself out.

This will not occur suddenly in terms of there being a necessity for a sudden change of third to fourth density. Rather, there will be a time of between one and three hundred of your years, from the probability/possibility vortices at which we now look, where your peoples will be able to continue to incarnate in third density to continue to heal the planet and to harvest those entities who are ready now to choose light over darkness, love over fear, and the lessons of the compassionate heart over the lessons of self interest. These are the cycles that we see at this time.





Please check as many as apply.

1. Does your child expect to be treated as an equal instead of a child?

2. Is your child easily, emotionally triggered?

3. Does your child have difficulty with discipline and authority?

4. Is your child frustrated with ritual-oriented systems that require little creativity?

5. Does your child have a gentle, sensitive, spirit and caring heart?

6. Does your child have food or environmental sensitivities?

7. Does your child dislike being rushed or not seem to have a sense of time in a traditional way?

8. Does your child have an interest in spiritual things?

9. Does your child appear to be an old soul or wise beyond their years?

10. Does your child seem to have a very creative imagination or to be a daydreamer?

11. Did your child come into the world with an attitude?

12. Does your child refuse to do certain things they are told to do?

13. Is your child a non-conformist?

14. Does your child see better ways of doing things at home and at school?

15. Is homework a source of conflict in your home?

16. Does your child appear to have a short attention span and at other times incredible focus?

17. Is your child particularly creative in areas of art, music, science and/or technology?

18. Does your child display intuition or knowledge of things that are unexplainable?

19. Did your child display an early ability and desire to learn and appear to be very intelligent in some areas?

20. Does your child talk to or about “imaginary” friends or see things that you cannot?

21. Does your child refuse to respond to parenting techniques that were used on you as a child?

22. Does your child have a strong interest in the environment and other living creatures?

23. Does your child have trouble getting to sleep or have night terrors?

If you answered yes to more than 10 questions you are probably parenting an Indigo. If your score is above 15 you are almost definitely parenting an Indigo Child.

Quiz developed by Jan Yordy, M.Ed. MSW, Play Therapist & Vicki Lass BA, Bus.Dip., Parent Coach


Its important to note that if you do feel that either you or your child is an indigo it is your duty either as a parent or too yourself to research this topic thoroughly to gain a full understanding as to what this means.

There is much information out there just waiting to be found in google, all it takes is a simple search.

These souls came here for a reason, unfortunatly many of them will never wake up. But once one wakes up, if he can wake up two more and they in turn do the same who knows..it may not take all that long for everyone to 'get it'.

[2infinityandbeyond]

*Are you intelligent (though did not necessarily have top grades); I guess. Last time i done an IQ test i had a result of 138. My mom used to say i was inteligent all of the time, i guess she lot faith in me when i lost interest in school. Inteligence is not about what you know, its knowing that you know very little.

* Are you very creative and enjoy making things. I love to draw and i love to compose music. I guess music is what i spend most of my time doing because i just love it. Ive a natural affinity for it thankfully and i can compose songs in my head easily. I was actually dumbfounded to find that not everyone has this talent, its a beautifull thing to have. Some people have cars and yachts, i have my music.

* Do you always need to know WHY (especially why you are being asked to do something). My mother could tell you this. Yes, actually i do always have to know why. I'm not happy with surface knowledge. If someone wants me to do something i need to know everything so that i can form my own methods of accomplishing the task. And if the task isnt worthwhile doing, i dont do it. Whats the point?

* Do you have disgust and perhaps loathing for the inanity of much of the required work in school, the repetition. I felt trapped when i was in that place and its something i would never want to experience again. To put it exactly as i thought ; It was like a prison reformation centre for my mind. And also, the fact that they are teaching children how high this mountain is compared to that mounatain instead of teaching them how to harness the power of their minds, and teach them the laws of the universe just ****** me right fcuking off and i wanted to punch the teacher every time i sat down and listened to their primitive boring unevolved lessons, so i went and smoked dope and discussed these things with my friends instead.

* Were you rebellious in school, refusing to do homework, rejecting authority of teachers OR seriously wanted to rebel, but didn't DARE, usually due to parental pressure. ho ho ho, no i rebelled. I didnt give a s**t to tell the truth about what my parents thought. As far as i was concerned they didnt own me, they were just a means for me to get into this world, and i was damned if i was gonna let this little action of birth allow them to lay claim to me. I rebelled, big time.

* have you experienced early existential depression and feelings of helplessness. These may have ranged from sadness to utter despair. Suicidal feelings while still in high school or younger are not uncommon in the Indigo Adult. Yes. More through my late teenage years then ever.

* Do you have difficulty in service-oriented jobs - resistance to authority and caste system of employment. As far as im concerned i am my own leader. (ohh watch the little elitest fairies..) This doesnt mean i feel superior to anyone, this just means i am my own superior. I feel no urge to order other people about or have any power over anyone, and considering that you either crack the whip or get whip cracked when working in this world i decided i would quit and persue my music and other talents.

* Do you prefer cooperative efforts or leadership position or solo if expertise is valued. I prefer either a leadership position (because no offence but i just trust my own ways of doing things, and usually when someone tells me to do something i can think of infinitly better ways to do it, yet.. they still want you to do it their way). Solo is good, if my work is appreciated i love working on my own

* Have you deep empathy for others, yet an intolerance of stupidity ; I have massive empathy for other people and often get depressed over other peoples problems. Ive a complete lack of empathy for people who choose to be ignorant and will not harness their own power.

* Are you extremely emotionally sensitive including crying at the drop of a hat (no shielding) - to no expression of emotion (full shielding) ; In the past i was very emotional. It wasnt a good way of being in this world, and eventually i learned to put up full shielding, although this isnt fool proof it does help.

* Do you have trouble with RAGE. Haha, ask my family

* Do you have trouble with most systems (either emotionally, mentally, or physically)- political, educational, medical, law. Their all corrupt and its beyond me while they still maintain the status and respect that they do. It just goes to show the complete lack of awareness of the common human being on this planet.

* Do you feel alienated from politics - feeling your voice won't count and that the outcome really doesn't matter anyway. ; Politics is not set up to cater for the needs of the regular citizen. Money talks, if you dont have it you may as well stfu

* Do you feel frustration with or rejection of the traditional American dream - 9-5 career, marriage, 2.5 children, house with white picket fence, etc. ; This is a sham, i dont understand how anyone out there could feel as if their life is any way fullfilling by locking themselves into a constant routine that eventually leads to them pissing their pants and choking on their own vomit in an old folks home

* Do you feel anger at rights being taken away, fear and/or fury at "Big Brother watching you." once upon a time yes. But now, no. They can take my body but they will never have my soul. Freedom is in the mind, and besides ive had enough court cases to know that god doesnt rule in favour of men with wigs.

* Do you feel a need like a burning desire to do something to change and improve the world. But feel stymied what to do. Yes. Although as ive grown older this has become an insanely daunting task, i do what i can but i feel its pointless to try and effect any real change when you are constantly working against those people you are trying to free.

* Did you have psychic or spiritual interest fairly young - in or before teen years. Since i was about eleven. I cant remember exactly but that age sounds about right. Id completely lost interest in religion by the time i was five and therefore my spirituality didnt flourish until i discovered the internet.

* Have you had few if any Indigo role models. Ive had none. Thus my complete lack of faith in the human race.

* Do you have strong intuition. Yup. Its how i roll, some people use their logic, i use my intuition, its the guiding force that drives my life on a daily basis. To give an example ; A few weeks ago i was driving a tractor and i was so so hungry. I thought to myself, "I would LOVE if this tractor just died so i could go and get some food" Five seconds later it died and i went and got my food. We needed a mechanic to get the machine working again.

* Do you have random behavior pattern or mind style - (symptoms of Attention Deficit Disorder), may have trouble focusing on a task unless of OWN choosing, may jump around in conversations. I was diagnosed with ADD when i was about 10 years old, my lack of interest in the education system worried my parents althout thankfully they never drugged me up. It seemed funny to my parents that i had such a passion and talent for music, drawing and the occult arts yet not a slight interest in school.

* Have you had psychic experiences, such as premonitions, seeing angels or ghosts, hearing voices, intuitive thoughts coming through etc No too the first 2, yes to the second two. Intuitive thoughts happen daily. And i dont exactly hear 'voices' i hear my own voice talking to myself using vocabulary that i dont posess. He's much more inteligent then my mind is and can answer questions my limited human mind couldnt possibly know the answers too.

* Are you sexually expressive and inventive OR do you reject sexuality in boredom. May explore alternate types of sexuality. I would lean more towords the expressive side of things. Although.. most girls ive met seem to be only concerned with the physical side of sex i crave a deeper connection, a soul to soul connection. If theres no love expressed its just a pointless animalistic act imho.

* Do you seek meaning to their life and understanding about the world you may seek this through religion, spiritual groups and books, self-help groups or books, or individually. Ever since i was a wee man. Its been the driving force of my life.

[bowspearer]

Ok, here goes:


1. Are you intelligent (though did not necessarily have top grades).

Yes, highly intelligent

2. Are you very creative and enjoy making things.

My hobbies include model building, writing and songwriting, so I'd say yes.

3. Do you always need to know WHY (especially why you are being asked to do something).

It honestly depends. If I can see that there's a clear reason that it needs to be done, I'll do it, but I have no time for social conventions which exist for reasons which may not even be relevanty anymore and which most people don't even know the reasons behind.

4. Do you have disgust and perhaps loathing for the inanity of much of the required work in school, the repetition.

So much so that I plan on doing my PhD on it and the entire education system if I make it that far before society falls apart.

5. Were you rebellious in school, refusing to do homework, rejecting authority of teachers OR seriously wanted to rebel, but didn't DARE, usually due to parental pressure.

I knew just how far to push it, but didn't cross that line because of how my family were and because of the battering my self-esteem took from constant bullying

6. have you experienced early existential depression and feelings of helplessness. These may have ranged from sadness to utter despair. Suicidal feelings while still in high school or younger are not uncommon in the Indigo Adult.

Yes, I suffered suicidal depression for many years and felt that helplessness since I was 10.

7. Do you have difficulty in service-oriented jobs - resistance to authority and caste system of employment.

Depends on the authority. Powertripping authority for sure, but people in authority who are supportive and work with you as opposed to working to slot you in the pecking order I have no time for. Also haven't had a good record in service based jobs.

8. Do you prefer cooperative efforts or leadership position or solo if expertise is valued.

Depends on who the situation. Whatever the task requires to be done in the right way is where my preference lies. I often feel a need to try and take charge, but if someone else has more expertise, I'm happy to work with them with them in the leadership role.

9. Have you deep empathy for others, yet an intolerance of stupidity.

To the point when I can even sense what a person is like in extreme cases without speaking to them, just by being in their presence.

10. Are you extremely emotionally sensitive including crying at the drop of a hat (no shielding) - to no expression of emotion (full shielding).

To the point where friends are concerned about it.

11. Do you have trouble with RAGE.

Following through on it, no- everything else, yes is an understatement.

12. Do you have trouble with most systems (either emotionally, mentally, or physically)- political, educational, medical, law.

Depends, well thought out parts of them, no, but bureaucratic conventional thinking, completely!

13. Do you feel alienated from politics - feeling your voice won't count and that the outcome really doesn't matter anyway.

No, that's a luxury we don't have. As a wise man once said, "all that need happen for evil to prosper is for good people to do nothing".

14. Do you feel frustration with or rejection of the traditional American dream - 9-5 career, marriage, 2.5 children, house with white picket fence, etc.

I do, it stops people from ever really being free to find their true dreams (even if their true dream wound up eventually being the traditional one).

15. Do you feel anger at rights being taken away, fear and/or fury at "Big Brother watching you."

Of course

16. Do you feel a need like a burning desire to do something to change and improve the world. But feel stymied what to do.

Yes but I refuse to let that get in the way

17. Did you have psychic or spiritual interest fairly young - in or before teen years.

In my teenage years definitely

18. Have you had few if any Indigo role models.

Yes

19. Do you have strong intuition.

Yes

20. Do you have random behavior pattern or mind style - (symptoms of Attention Deficit Disorder), may have trouble focusing on a task unless of OWN choosing, may jump around in conversations.

I was diagnosed with mild ADD at the age of 15.

21. Have you had psychic experiences, such as premonitions, seeing angels or ghosts, hearing voices, intuitive thoughts coming through etc

I've had both psychic dreams of a symbolic and premonition based nature, as well as hearing a voice once or twice, as well as profound intuitive thoughts on many occasions.

22. Are you sexually expressive and inventive OR do you reject sexuality in boredom. May explore alternate types of sexuality.

Yes (the expanded answer is private )

23. Do you seek meaning to their life and understanding about the world you may seek this through religion, spiritual groups and books, self-help groups or books, or individually.

Of course, for the longest time.

The score I'd argue I score there is 22/23. Where my answer wasn't a straight yes, it was because the questions failed to be specific enough with what they were asking about and I feel my answers were ultimately what the questions classed as a "yes".

Now for the other discussion:

Originally Posted by OceanWinds

The only problem being the EGO... which can take what it wants from the definitions of indigo and use them as a means to separate humanity, and degenerate it collectively... as opposed to unifying it. This has been done countless times using religion,scripture and its dogma. And this is the point that many have been trying to express... its not that we are trying to destroy the indigo, that was never the intention.

Yet I don't think it can do that with a true indigo. The fact is that all Indigo's actually are vehemently opposed to elitism, I'm almost certain a good friend of mine in Arizona is an indigo and both of us honestly want there to be the most radical form of democracy possible to ultimately exist worldwide. Yes we're special, but all we arguably are, are guides to remind people of what really matters and where their priorities lie so that they too can get there in the end.

[Carol]

This is a message for guests visiting this thread. Please keep in mind what OP posted in his opening thread.

"I am also here to help if you find yourself having any difficulty in your life right now so don't be afraid to drop by and send me a message. Ive gone through the hardships and i understand fully how frustrating life can be sometimes for an indigo child so it leaves me in a very good position to relate and offer advice. Which i will gladly do."

This is his intention and we would appreciate it if those who wish to post... honor this.

Mahalo Nui Loa,

Carol

Please read this before posting ANYTHING in Avalon threads. http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...04&postcount=5

[hobbit]

Carol,
I appreciate why you locked this thread, it hopefully will have the desired effect/s.
Infinity asked clear enough that this is not a debating thread, but a helpfull thread for those realising how they vary from the majority, this is not a difference of noticable biological status, but can be sensed, especially if you begin to utilise the mostly dormant senses in the hands.
Hopefully all will raise up into these higher realms, and will then better comprehend what is been attempted here.
Everything is ONE, but composed of variant mixtures of that one, hence the infinite variety.
This will be the most fabulous time to be here on this planet, lets make the best of this stupendous opportunity, and help each other come to terms with what may be the most amazing shock/s.
To those that doubt these variations in the field about ourselves, how can you comment?
Everyone is different, certain twins are almost identical, but they KNOW who each of them are.
You can see the physical differences, well others can see the non physical differences also, ask yourself why would they lie?
especially those not in any way proiting from anything, in any way.

We have almost everything to re-learn about the interaction/s between our biological form and non biological fields, and we can only benifit by this better comprehension, lets go forth and go there with no fear, wherever it leads, please.
hobbit

[Lunaris]

hey jenny!

[Peer]

I am an Indigo for 60 years now and an important lesson I have learned is that also and for all Indigo's have to grow up and behave.
So to everyone who didn't yet:
Grow up and untill then: Practise humility.
And after you've grown up: Keep on practising humility.

[Dadrious]

Originally Posted by Peer

I am an Indigo for 60 years now and an important lesson I have learned is that also and for all Indigo's have to grow up and behave.
So to everyone who didn't yet:
Grow up and untill then: Practise humility.
And after you've grown up: Keep on practising humility.

Words of wisdom.

[Freya]

* Are you intelligent (though did not necessarily have top grades). Yes. tested as gifted in elementary school...barely graduated high school. Always told I never applied myself.

* Are you very creative and enjoy making things. Yes. Photographic artist

* Do you always need to know WHY (especially why you are being asked to do something). Yes.

* Do you have disgust and perhaps loathing for the inanity of much of the required work in school, the repetition. Yes. Hated times tables in school

* Were you rebellious in school, refusing to do homework, rejecting authority of teachers OR seriously wanted to rebel, but didn't DARE, usually due to parental pressure. OMG YES.

* have you experienced early existential depression and feelings of helplessness. These may have ranged from sadness to utter despair. Suicidal feelings while still in high school or younger are not uncommon in the Indigo Adult. I have always off. I remember wanting to kill myself in middle school. I was 'offically' diagnosed with depression after my 2nd child was born. 6 years later ended up in the looney bin. I still self harm.

* Do you have difficulty in service-oriented jobs - resistance to authority and caste system of employment. Yes. I love helping people, but not serving them

* Do you prefer cooperative efforts or leadership position or solo if expertise is valued. Not sure on this one.

* Have you deep empathy for others, yet an intolerance of stupidity. Yep. Just ask my hubby

* Are you extremely emotionally sensitive including crying at the drop of a hat (no shielding) - to no expression of emotion (full shielding). Yep. I can flick a switch. I cry in the movie "cars" and yet others say I am aloof.

* Do you have trouble with RAGE. Unfortunately I am the recipient of my own rage.

* Do you have trouble with most systems (either emotionally, mentally, or physically)- political, educational, medical, law. On one level or another yes

* Do you feel alienated from politics - feeling your voice won't count and that the outcome really doesn't matter anyway. dont we all?

* Do you feel frustration with or rejection of the traditional American dream - 9-5 career, marriage, 2.5 children, house with white picket fence, etc. YES!

* Do you feel anger at rights being taken away, fear and/or fury at "Big Brother watching you." Yes

* Do you feel a need like a burning desire to do something to change and improve the world. But feel stymied what to do. YES

* Did you have psychic or spiritual interest fairly young - in or before teen years. Yes.

* Have you had few if any Indigo role models. Hmm...YES!

* Do you have strong intuition. Yes

* Do you have random behavior pattern or mind style - (symptoms of Attention Deficit Disorder), may have trouble focusing on a task unless of OWN choosing, may jump around in conversations. YES! Ironically when I was diagnosed with depression, I had actually gone in to be tested for ADD as an adult. I can't shop very easily, I get overwhelmed...things like that

* Have you had psychic experiences, such as premonitions, seeing angels or ghosts, hearing voices, intuitive thoughts coming through etc Yes.

* Are you sexually expressive and inventive OR do you reject sexuality in boredom. May explore alternate types of sexuality. Yes, although not as expressive as in the past.

* Do you seek meaning to their life and understanding about the world you may seek this through religion, spiritual groups and books, self-help groups or books, or individually. YES!


All my life I have never felt like I fit in with anyone or anything. I was made to hide my emotions. I was way to sensitive for my parents. They didnt know how to handle it. My favorite thing about summer was swimming. I could sit at the bottom of the pool, underwater, and cry and no one knew. I have always hated this feeling. I would like to think I have some purpose here. I just dont seem to know what.

Done rambling.

Namaste

[macrostheblack]

Not all UFOs are negative. The ones that utilise missing time can be classed as the wrong type. They do not use spiritual lessons in their agenda in terms of respecting all life. The ones that are our friends use universal laws and do not interfere in anyway that causes fear. If anything, they infuse into a person or groups protection that will manifest in future generations. They use the implant placed by negative ets to track the mess and correct it through idea and influence. Many abuctees report sudden artistic talent. This is the good guys at work for to paint requires the heart which the bad guys wish to control with fear. The stronger the heart, so the same for the spirit resulting in growth that will ulitmatly lead to implants not working. The need for implants is simply to stunt the person or soul and body in performing its growth here. When that happens we see an endless repetition of suffering allowing others to take and use us.

I am an one of the children mentioned here.

Macros