Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale

[wwolf67]

love=Good ET
fear=Bad ET
how much love do you find in the bible
waiting around for Jesus... thats what bets want you to do
Ive already posted links as to where the bible came from. why didnt you look
everyone assumes death and destruction is their favorite weapons. it didnt work... deceit is now more desirable to them
use your heart not your head
Balance to All

[beauwalton@rocketmail.com]

Originally Posted by wwolf67

love=Good ET
fear=Bad ET
how much love do you find in the bible
waiting around for Jesus... thats what bets want you to do
Ive already posted links as to where the bible came from. why didnt you look
everyone assumes death and destruction is their favorite weapons. it didnt work... deceit is now more desirable to them
use your heart not your head
Balance to All

I didn´t look because I´m here to learn the truth!
No offence intended.
By the way almost the entire New Testament is about love.

[arcora]

Originally Posted by wwolf67

love=Good ET
fear=Bad ET
how much love do you find in the bible
waiting around for Jesus... thats what bets want you to do
Ive already posted links as to where the bible came from. why didnt you look
everyone assumes death and destruction is their favorite weapons. it didnt work... deceit is now more desirable to them
use your heart not your head
Balance to All

I see it differently than you and I think it is much more complex.

You mentioned that GET's have a freewill clause that prevents them from dictating the Bible. This isn't entirely true. GET's freewill is given back to the Father - they do his bidding. BET's have freewill to do as they please.

As for the fear and love, sometimes it is backwards. The only fear promoted in the Bible is a fear of God. This is a healthy fear that, if followed, paradoxically leads one to love of God.

The BET's can and do lie. They like to take a small part of the true message and distort it - making it more palatable to those who don't want the whole truth. Lately I see them spouting off a lot about love. The only problem is that this love is misdirected. It is love for oneself and love of earthly things. This kind of love may feel right and feel good but it is a dead end.

Waiting around for Jesus? No. Preparing? Yes.

Finally, we were all given both a head and a heart. Why not use both?

[wwolf67]

By the way almost the entire New Testament is about love.
I read the other thread where you stated you cant bget through it
It was written to confuse. you say you want the truth go look for it cause your not going to find it in the bible. Just the fact theres so many different versions should at least get you to question that
Q who wrote the original do you know
Balance to All

[wwolf67]

Originally Posted by arcora

I see it differently than you and I think it is much more complex.

You mentioned that GET's have a freewill clause that prevents them from dictating the Bible. This isn't entirely true. GET's freewill is given back to the Father - they do his bidding. BET's have freewill to do as they please.

As for the fear and love, sometimes it is backwards. The only fear promoted in the Bible is a fear of God. This is a healthy fear that, if followed, paradoxically leads one to love of God.

The BET's can and do lie. They like to take a small part of the true message and distort it - making it more palatable to those who don't want the whole truth. Lately I see them spouting off a lot about love. The only problem is that this love is misdirected. It is love for oneself and love of earthly things. This kind of love may feel right and feel good but it is a dead end.

Waiting around for Jesus? No. Preparing? Yes.

Finally, we were all given both a head and a heart. Why not use both?

very complex alot of deciet I encourage you to digg deep it starts in lyra

Quote: As for the fear and love, sometimes it is backwards. The only fear promoted in the Bible is a fear of God. This is a healthy fear that, if followed, paradoxically leads one to love of God.
Sounds more like a threat too me...My god does threaten he loves..period

Quote: You mentioned that GET's have a freewill clause that prevents them from dictating the Bible. This isn't entirely true. GET's freewill is given back to the Father - they do his bidding
oh really whos a GET and whos BET tell us. What you more up a couple rungs in the latter and suddenly your allowed to Question Great Grandfather or Great Grandfather ignores their freewill
Quote:
The BET's can and do lie. They like to take a small part of the true message and distort it - making it more palatable to those who don't want the whole truth.
You just described the bible

Im standing at a fork in the path showing you theres a fork Im not even telling you must believe I am however screaming LOOK
Consider this
For every action=reaction
expanding universe
Great central "black hole"
We are on one side..whats on the other and how does it react..is it shrinking..wheres heaven wheres hell

Im here cause little sister called (mother Earth)
truth

Balance to ALL

[arcora]

Originally Posted by wwolf67

very complex alot of deciet I encourage you to digg deep it starts in lyra

Quote: As for the fear and love, sometimes it is backwards. The only fear promoted in the Bible is a fear of God. This is a healthy fear that, if followed, paradoxically leads one to love of God.
Sounds more like a threat too me...My god does threaten he loves..period

Threats can be inspired by love. Do I not punish my own children because I love them? If I allowed my two little girls to live a free-for-all do-whatever-feels-good life it would not be loving of me, would it? Why would I expect my own Father to treat me or anyone else differently?

oh really whos a GET and whos BET tell us.

And they shall be known by their deeds

What you more up a couple rungs in the latter and suddenly your allowed to Question Great Grandfather or Great Grandfather ignores their freewill

I don't understand that sentence.


The BET's can and do lie. They like to take a small part of the true message and distort it - making it more palatable to those who don't want the whole truth.

You just described the bible

Perhaps that is your interpretation but it isn't mine.

Im standing at a fork in the path showing you theres a fork Im not even telling you must believe I am however screaming LOOK
Consider this
For every action=reaction
expanding universe
Great central "black hole"
We are on one side..whats on the other and how does it react..is it shrinking..wheres heaven wheres hell

These words are inconsequential to me.

Im here cause little sister called (mother Earth)

It would be wise for some to reflect on being of this world rather than in this world.

truth
Balance to ALL

Balance = lukewarm. No thank you.

At that we must agree to disagree. I am not responding to you personally in order to change your beliefs.

[Zenbuoy]

Excellent thread, Norval.

...and now we have this from Bob Dean.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbgHyrmgRZM

Love to read thoughts from you, Gale, Gazbom, Brother Whitewolf & all others.

Did I mention, "excellent thread?"


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[wwolf67]

Balance = lukewarm. No thank you.

Try stepping out of a 3D perspective

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

Originally Posted by Norval

Beatnik,
Thank you, but we sold the T-shirts, we promote using the bible as the book to compare all other
information against.

Come on Norval,

Sold your t-shirts ? To NASA ? Tied to Brookings ?

I find your thread a GOOD ONE, but sometimes it feels like a tourist bus tour of the solar system to take pictures of it's anomalies.

I know there IS something interesting with Phobos, Deimos, Iapetus and so on...

But Where is the MEAT ? Explanations, extrapolations, numbers, Bible correlations, dates ?
Till now it feels like a guessing game.

It would have been GREAT to get your take on Venus !!!

ah.. well...probably missed the goal of this thread.
take care,
salute.

[Norval]

With this last post to this thread I would like to say there is much more to the signs of war in our
solar system. There is also the signs of resource gathering, like strip mining by miles big
machinery. But we have pointed you all in the right direction with what we have presented. The
rest of that research is up to you if you so feel like it. No, we are not going to hand it to you on a
gold plate and do your home work for you. You the reader must make sure of all things.
Besides this information was given to the world and it's leaders some seven years ago. Gale and I
stopped posting, faxing, email, and letters, about it three and a half years ago.
The rest of this part of the bibles message is up to you.
Good researching and keep looking up. Jesus returns in the clouds it says.
Norval L. Cunningham


From here
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA01618

[Gale]

South Polar View of Miranda


The signs of war would include resources to fuel some aspects of that war. There is scaring in our solar system that bear direct resemblance to mining and resource gathering.
The signs are there, I hope our synopsis of what to look for has been helpful.

Gale Smart

[Shadowstalker]

You guys are just to kewl for words...

Love you both and thank you very much...

Namaste-Matte

[alienarena]

Caused by a broken up comet? Toss a hand full of rocks and see what you get.
It is IMPOSSIBLE to get such concise and systematic craters as they tell you.
They are feeding you BS ! ! Feel like a mushroom yet?
Look at the size of those in line craters !
Picture if such "weapons" were used against earth ! !
CS Crater Chains are a product of intelligent weapons of mass destruction.
Wake up people.
Now you must QUESTION ALL craters, everywhere. Comet, Asteroid, or WEAPON?

With all due respect...unless I'm missing something - I'm not quite clear on how this couldn't be a crater chain caused by comets.

Is it possible that a large comet came in at just the right angle and hit these areas much like when you skip a rock over the water?

I've seen a rock skip a pretty straight line across the water.

[sfth13]

I wonder if this mining in the pictures has anything to do with Helium-3. These are great threads with some eye opening info by Gale and Norval. Thanks again

Helium-3 (He-3) is a light, non-radioactive isotope of helium with two protons and one neutron, rare on Earth, sought for use in nuclear fusion research. The abundance of helium-3 is thought to be greater on the Moon (embedded in the upper layer of regolith by the solar wind over billions of years) and the solar system's gas giants (left over from the original solar nebula), though still low in quantity (28 ppm of lunar regolith is helium-4 and 0.01 ppm is helium-3).[1] It is proposed to be used as a second-generation fusion power source.

The helion, the nucleus of a helium-3 atom, consists of two protons but only one neutron, in contrast to two neutrons in ordinary helium. Its existence was first proposed in 1934 by the Australian nuclear physicist Mark Oliphant while based at Cambridge University's Cavendish Laboratory, in an experiment in which fast deuterons were reacted with other deuteron targets (the first demonstration of nuclear fusion). Helium-3, as an isotope, was postulated to be radioactive, until helions from it were accidentally identified as a trace "contaminant" in a sample of natural helium (which is mostly helium-4) from a gas well, by Luis W. Alvarez and Robert Cornog in a cyclotron experiment at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, in 1939. [2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium-3

[100thmonkey]

Originally Posted by Norval

... The rest of that research is up to you if you so feel like it. No, we are not going to hand it to you on a gold plate and do your home work for you. You the reader must make sure of all things...

Thanks.
So, I've done a bit of homework on this and found some interesting articles on just these kind of formations:

Scars on Miranda
Scars on Enceladus
Scars on Europa

[Gabe Gabriel]

Norval and Gale are correct I think.

[Norval]

Originally Posted by sfth13

I wonder if this mining in the pictures has anything to do with Helium-3. These are great threads with some eye opening info by Gale and Norval. Thanks again



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium-3

I like your idea about HE3, , just possibly.
Somebody has been doing resource harvesting in our solar system for some time, and with some very big equipment. But, it does take quite alot of resources to "war" on others.

[hobbit]

If Norval is finished , as He say's.
I am left wondering if I have been following the plot of a good fiction story book.
All I have seen are photo's of most likely the effects of an electrical universe in operation, and nothing else.
I have read barrow fulls of ASSUMPTIONS piled on top of each other.
I have every confidence that all levels of beings exist in this universe, and that all things are possible.
Am I missing something, or is this fiction?
hobbit

[Norval]

Hobbit and Monkey,




What thunderbolts stuff wants one to accept is that these are the same.
Note the flat electric arc scaring on the material, NOT an over ten mile high volcano, or in this case at least a couple of inches.

Yes, and we all can see bunny rabbits in the clouds too.

Quote from an article about Olympus Mons on Mars.

"The central edifice of Olympus Mons has a summit caldera 24 kilometers (15 miles)
above the surrounding plains. Surrounding the volcano is an outward-facing scarp 550
kilometers (342 miles) in diameter and several kilometers high."

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

Originally Posted by 100thmonkey

Thanks.
So, I've done a bit of homework on this and found some interesting articles on just these kind of formations:

Scars on Miranda
Scars on Enceladus
Scars on Europa

Good work, 100thmonkey.
Thanks for this. I took a look at the thunderbolts site, and it reveals an interesting aspect of how the universe work.

take care

[hobbit]

Norval,
Removing who dun it or what dun it.
I would respectfully request a discussion about the method employed capable of ever producing what is seen.
I would propose that unless you better comprehend how universe operates , and it's consequences, then assumptions are made on a limited knowledge of something we have hardly the faintest idea about.

I myself consider that the whole creation and dissolvement of mass is missunderstood, and that is to such a basic level that we can't see the wood for the tree's.
I do agree that if the basic method of creation and dissolvement is fully understood that the ultimate of weapons is there to be utilised, and that any advanced civilization capable of travelling in universe must have that capability to hand, as it will be part and parcel of moving about as different as chalk and cheese as far as propulsion is concerned.

But We must reached a tipping point ourselves where the knowledge of universe becomes widely known, then it's up to ourselves to not utilise it.
I consider nikola tesla KNEW, and that Tunguska was one of your strikes here on earth that He caused from Wardenclyffe.

It may well be that for the best of reasons his knowledge was surpressed, as We may well have weaponised it and used it?

The whole system is about positive and negative , and balance is the key to creation, inbalance is the route to dissolvement, back to NO -THING, not nothing, and a strike by a full flow of positive onto a net negative surface , may well result in the dissolvement of mass back to space, or NO-THING, not exactly what thunderbolts suggest?
hobbit

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

Norval,

I Believe in the War in the Solar System theory, but on the other hand,
taking the BIBLE as the SOLE SOURCE of explanation for our human/solar system geology history
and then making conclusions without taking into account any other sources/possibilities, means to me a lack of research ethics.

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You could compare your actual research pilgrimage (and how now you're deep into it) to DEEP SEA DIVING:

We must constantly question the validity of our ideas as we get deeper in any subject.
Failing to do this in your case reminds me of NITROGEN NARCOSIS:

At depths of about 100 feet or more, the increased concentration of nitrogen in the bloodstream effects some divers in a manner similar to alcohol.
Many divers lost it while being 'close to their cigar'.
They completely lost any references, while still believing everything was ok, with fatal consequences.

--- means in your case you could be close to TRUTH, but never reach it, no matter how close you could be ---

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As 100thmonkey said in another thread:

You could be unwittingly promoting a dark agenda, because being too much entrenched in your current ideas.
Evaluating why you came to these beliefs is none of my business and it's up to you to do it.

Let it be clear: I am NO EXPERT at all in the BIBLE stuff, and i acknowledge that it could solve many riddles in the wake to prove this theory.
But it's not enough, that could be only a part of the puzzle.

I'm just a humble 'truthseeker' like many others are, here on this forum, and that would be great to get some open-minded feedback from you to the supporters (I mean those who challenge your ideas, those who genuinely bring new ideas, different explanations).

I have enough respect for you taking time to write this, and i applause your courage and determination (Norval+Gale) for bringing this challenging theory at Avalon.


Take care.

[Norval]

Originally Posted by BeaTnik-BandiT

Norval,

I Believe in the War in the Solar System theory, but on the other hand,
taking the BIBLE as the SOLE SOURCE of explanation for our human/solar system geology history
and then making conclusions without taking into account any other sources/possibilities, means to me a lack of research ethics.
Take care.

You have not read my words in these threads then.

[Gale]

Attack the poster and don’t add anything to the discussion.
STDD (Same Tactic Different Day)

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

Originally Posted by Gale

Attack the poster and don’t add anything to the discussion.
STDD (Same Tactic Different Day)

If you read carefully, I didn't mean to 'attacK' Norval, i just gave him advice, and my feeling of things.

I do appreciate this thread like i said many times.
I am amazed with the pictures Norval brings and the chain crater stuff and it's explanation which i agree for at 99.9 %.

Regarding if i brought something for discussion i refer you to my post here:
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...&postcount=192

There is enough stuff to discuss about for hours and days ....

I must admit i was a bit frustrated because of Norval refusal to get his feedback, but that's pretty much it.
The following post in response could have been felt like an attack: BUT, NO IT WAS NOT. I understand your reaction and it's legitimate.

Look, we are looking at the same objective, but the way to get there is different.
I simply don't 'resonate' with your beliefs in the thread on Bible conclusions.

Knowing that you seem both pretty much entrenched in your views,
i made the last post to advise Norval to stay open to other views along with voicing my feelings that he could be wrong, somewhere.
Nobody has to agree with everything that is being fed.
I must say 100thmonkey expressed very well the same things i feel. (thread on Bible conclusions)

Now, we are not going to ' Start another War ' so let's make PEACE Right Now.

Salute.