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Old 04-11-2009, 06:45 AM   #101
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Dear BROOK, i sincerely wish you came up with an objective argument, instead - of mere emotions.


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Old 04-17-2009, 04:56 AM   #104
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Taking Action:


"UPCOMING EVENTS FEATURING EARTH POLICY INSTITUTE


APRIL 17 and 18, 2009
"On Thin Ice", a one-hour special on PBS

Seventy-five percent of the world's fresh water is stored in glaciers, but scientists predict climate change will cause some of the world's largest glaciers to completely melt by 2030.
This will increase global competition for food and water and threaten international security.

In a special one-hour NOW on PBS report (check local listings), Host David Brancaccio travels to the Gangotri Glacier in the Himalayas and Montana's Glacier National Park to see the melting and to examine the consequences. Brancaccio talks with Lester Brown about the effects of melting glaciers of India’s food supply."

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Wow wow RakaR, I don't think I have seen such a complied list of eugenics organizations in one thread before. Impressive!
However, have you not realized that they ptb ALWAYs push there agendas under the hidden guise of helping humanity and the planet?

Population has nothing to do with starvation or any problems we face today. If we all worked for the Earth rather then moon-ey every being alive today would have abundance. In fact us humans could control the grid system of earth and eliminate every desert and make the whole planet a fertile green paradise with more space that we can imagine.
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Old 04-19-2009, 11:48 AM   #106
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Wow wow RakaR, I don't think I have seen such a complied list of eugenics organizations in one thread before. Impressive!
However, have you not realized that they ptb ALWAYs push there agendas under the hidden guise of helping humanity and the planet?

Population has nothing to do with starvation or any problems we face today. If we all worked for the Earth rather then moon-ey every being alive today would have abundance. In fact us humans could control the grid system of earth and eliminate every desert and make the whole planet a fertile green paradise with more space that we can imagine.

Tell me please, Phtha, is there any organization at all, which is neither eugenics nor linked to ptb, in your eyes - and the eyes of many here, apparently?

An example would be highly appreciated.

Meanwhile, do consider the following objectively:

Muslim Ulama & Implementing Restrictive Family and Population Policies


Briefly: "Easily the most momentous conference of Islamic states directly mandating the enforcement of restrictive population and family policies took place in Islamabad May 4-6, 2005.
The first of its kind on the population issue in the country's history, and indeed in the Muslim world, the International Ulama Conference on Population and Development was organized by the Ministry of Population Welfare with some nominal technical support from the UN Population Fund (UNFPA) and aided by other government departments, especially that of Information." [...]

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Hi RaKar - A revolution begins with one, so as long as you are not ejaculating I think your mission is accomplished.

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Hi RaKar - A revolution begins with one, so as long as you are not ejaculating I think your mission is accomplished.

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Greeting you, no caste!

That is a pretty ...colorful expression of thoughts:-)

You see, i just am convinced, it can't be so hopeless, it can not be so, that plots and conspiracy are and reign everywhere.
We, Humans, can not be so vulnerable and defenceless, we are spiritual entities - and as such uttrely free and responsible for ourselves and for our planet, Mother Earth!

Some around here push suspicion to such an extent, that it looks much like the old fashioned paranoia.

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The signs are overwhelming(courtesy of Barreto, Beobachter Edelweis):


54% increase in number of people affected by climate

disasters by 2015 could overwhelm emergency

responses


21 April 2009

Jeremy Hobbs, Executive Director Oxfam International - http://www.oxfam.org


"In six years time the number of people affected by climatic crises is projected to rise by 54 per cent to 375 million people, threatening to overwhelm the humanitarian aid system, said international agency Oxfam today.

The projected rise is due to a combination of entrenched poverty and people migrating to densely populated slums which are prone to the increasing number of climatic events. This is compounded by the political failure to address these risks and a humanitarian system which is not fit for purpose. In its report, The Right to Survive, Oxfam says the world needs to re-engineer the way it responds to, prepare for and prevents disasters.

Oxfam used the best-available data of 6,500 climate-related disasters since 1980 to project that the number of people affected by climatic disaster will rise by 133 million to 375 million people a year on average by 2015. This does not include people hit by other disasters such as wars, earthquakes and volcanic eruptions.

The world needs to increase its humanitarian aid spending from 2006 levels of $14.2 billion to at least $25 billion a year just to deal with these rising numbers of people. Even this increase in money – the equivalent of only $50 per affected person – is still woefully inadequate to meet their basic needs."
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Old 06-20-2009, 02:57 PM   #110
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International Statement on the Need to Act Urgently on Overpopulation

By Optimum Population Trust, Uk


"Population policy and the environment

International position statement


1. The undersigned organisations recognise the following facts:

A. Past population growth from one billion in 1800 to 2.5 billion in 1950 to 6.8 billion today, together with rising resource consumption per head, has already: caused climate change, increasing pollution, rising sea levels and expanding deserts; and has been largely “funded” by rapidly depleting natural capital (finite resources such as fossil fuels, groundwater, minerals, soil fertility, forests, fisheries and biodiversity) rather than sustainable natural income.

B. The capacity of the Earth is finite, reducing with climate change, and cannot sustain indefinite growth in human numbers and resource exploitation.

C. Global population, increasing by 78 million per year (9,000 per hour) is projected to grow to 9.1 billion by 2050. The additional 2.3 billion, even in low-carbon countries, equates to two more carbon USAs.

D. Indefinite population growth being physically impossible, it must stop at some point: either sooner through fewer births by contraception and humane, pro-active population policy; or later through more deaths by famine, disease, war, and environmental collapse; or some combination of these.

E. Each additional person increases total human impact on the natural environment and decreases natural resources per head; so that all environmental (and many economic and social) problems are easier to solve with fewer people, and harder (and ultimately impossible) with more.

F. Environmental degradation and resource depletion is steadily reducing the number of people the Earth can indefinitely sustain.

G. Spreading industrialisation, urbanisation and first world consumption patterns are further reducing the ultimate carrying capacity of the Earth.

H. Global food supply is heavily dependent on cheap and abundant oil and water, both of which are rapidly becoming more scarce and costly.

I. Development (GDP growth per person) of the poorest countries continues to be hampered by high birth rates (ever more people).

J. The optimum population (best quality of life for all) is clearly much smaller than the maximum (bare survival).


Conclusion: Current population growth is environmentally unsustainable.



2. We recommend that the United Nations and intergovernmental organisations, governments, and non-governmental environment and development bodies should:

A. Recognise and acknowledge the factual truth of these statements.

B. Support, fund or ensure universal access to family planning worldwide, as agreed at the 1994 Cairo Conference and in Millennium Development Goal 5 for 2012.

D. Adopt non-coercive policies to stabilise or reduce populations at or to sustainable levels, including planning for an ageing population.

E. Take firm measures, especially in high-consuming regions, to promote the reduction of per capita resource depletion and environmental degradation.

June, 2009



Signatory organisations

Optimum Population Trust (UK), Population Institute of Canada, Population Institute (USA), Sustainable Population Australia


Please contact OPT if your organisation is interested in signing up to this position statement:

http://www.optimumpopulation.org/opt.int.statement.html "





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Dear BROOK, i sincerely wish you came up with an objective argument, instead - of mere emotions.


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I really hate to jump in here like this, but actually emotions have changed more injustices and agendas than objective arguments.
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Dear BROOK, i sincerely wish you came up with an objective argument, instead - of mere emotions.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPPpg-Qtx1c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L25fURO1UQs

That is the fault of Society...that is what needs to be changed for us progress to another level of being...that has nothing to do with controlling to population.
Hopefully we are on the dawn of a new face for mankind to wear...but population control is strictly not the answer...the answer is compassion...love...education. My opinion only..but I've seen many large families busting with love for each other...and the values they learn are tremendous...they learn sharing, caring...community.
That is the lesson we all need to learn. I believe that day is dawning..more of us are waking up to the value of life itself...treasure it.
It is society, and the values of the big media, and government that have been controlling for centuries that have caused the burden of the large family.It is the government and cia that have been pushing their drugs and booze on society to the burden of the underdog to fall down and create the problems that they are thriving on today.
It is not about the large family, but the makings of society that needs to change

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Old 06-20-2009, 04:33 PM   #113
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Here you go RaKaR...add this guy as your spokesman ..

http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...&oq=david+rock

He's been pushing this agenda for a very long time
Let's see now ...I've had three children....Selfish?

I'm still paying for them... guess I'd be rich if I had had only two....selfish? I fail to see the logic in that statement.How exactly does that make me selfish for having three children?
Listen...we are all valuable human beings...every one of us. The poor, the starving...the rich...the evil...the dark..the mentally disturbed...we all have a purpose...otherwise we would not have come here.
I don't believe you or anyone else has the right to say if we should be born or not be born....I'll leave that to my maker
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Old 06-20-2009, 05:18 PM   #114
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I thought I already had
As I stated ...respectfully, this thread is promoting population control, and we all know that the agenda of the NWO is

1 Population control
2 Cashless society
3 one world government
4 total control of the masses

All I feel we need as a society is education..REAL education..not the one they stuff down our throats via Media, and current school systems...but REAL education.
Through real education, we could expand our vision of the world, and utilize all the unpopulated areas and do so with respect to the earth...but again..it comes with REAL education.
If this is coming from emotion..well I guess I have a strong emotional tie to mankind, and wish to see more unity. But there is enough information about the agenda of TPTB...to understand that this is their first order of business...to depopulize...so as to gain more control..it has nothing to do with saving the planet...pure control is all they have on their mind

Has the thought occured to you that the statistics that have been thrown out there by this organization that you are so fond of ...are FALSE..and created to promote FEAR, and PANIC?
Have you seriously investigated the sources of their information? And if you did...have you checked to see what ties they have to organizations that are backed by BIG money? Possibly government?
If so...have you checked their background? DO you really KNOW who it is you are working for? Are they from a long line of aristocracy?
These are the question I would ask...as this agenda is very well documented, and very suspect..so before I would promote such a thing..I would do a thorough background check.

Now if you would like to give us some of the people involved in these organizations..maybe we as a group could check them as well...after all you are giving us all of this information, I think we have a right to know the source.

Just of the top...I went to your site....
the first name I got was
Sir David Attenborough
Sir David, who was knighted in 1985, is a trustee of the British Museum and the Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew, and a fellow of the Royal Society.


Tim Dyson, professor of demography at the London School of Economics; Prof. Andrew Watkinson, former director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research; Robin Maynard, campaigns director of the Soil Association; Prof. Chris Rapley, director of the Science Museum; Jonathon Porritt, chair of the Sustainable Development Commission; Sara Parkin, founder-director of Forum for the Future and former co-chair of the Green Party; and Dr. Martin Desvaux, an ecological footprint specialist.

Jonathon Porritt, OPT patron and chair of the UK Sustainable Development Commission, which advises the Government on green issues

Quotes by Tony Blair

Climate change is labelled anthropogenic by scientists. In other words, it’s man-made. Even Tony Blair, in his recent foreword to a book on the increasing dangers of climate change*, pointed out the part played by a sixfold increase in human population over the last two centuries. We’re deluding ourselves if we think that reductions in greenhouse gas emissions can be achieved solely through greener technologies and have nothing to do with human numbers.”

Rosamund McDougall is Co-Chair of the Optimum Population Trust, an environmental research and campaigning group. She has run a publishing company (Peridot Press) and worked as an international financial journalist (Financial Times Group) as well as for the Family Planning Association. She is married with one child.

Now I don't know who all these people are...but anyone can check them out..and see what their agend is....have fun researching

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Better yet..here is the list from the site


What is the Optimum Population Trust?

The Optimum Population Trust is the leading think tank in the UK concerned with the impact of population growth on the environment. OPT research covers population in relation to climate change, energy, resources, biodiversity, development impacts, ageing and employment and other environmental and economic issues. It campaigns for stabilisation and gradual population decrease globally and in the UK. OPT is a registered charity and is financed by its members. It receives funding neither from the government nor from any political or business interests, and is not affiliated to any other organisation*.(*Except as a partner in the Global Footprint Network.)
MAIN AIMS

To advance the education of the public in issues relating to human population worldwide and its impact on environmental sustainability;
To advance, promote and encourage research to determine optimum and ecologically sustainable human population levels in all or any part or parts of the world and to publicise the results of such research;
To advance environmental protection by promoting policies in the United Kingdom or any other part or parts of the world which will lead or contribute to the achievement of stable human population levels which allow environmental sustainability.
PATRONS
  1. Sir David Attenborough CVO CBE, Naturalist, broadcaster and trustee of the British Museum and Royal Botanical Gardens, Kew; and a former controller of BBC Two.
    Professor Sir Partha Dasgupta, Frank Ramsey Professor of Economics, University of Cambridge
    Professor Paul Ehrlich, Professor of Population Studies, Stanford University
    Jane Goodall PhD DBE, Founder, Jane Goodall Institute, and UN Messenger of Peace.
    Susan Hampshire OBE, Actress and population campaigner
    Professor John Guillebaud Former Co-chair of OPT, Emeritus Professor of Family Planning and Reproductive Health, University College, London. Former Medical Director, Margaret Pyke Centre for Family Planning.
    Professor Aubrey Manning OBE, President of the Wildlife Trusts and Emeritus Professor of Natural History, University of Edinburgh
    Professor Norman Myers CMG, Visiting Fellow, Green College, Oxford University, and at Universities of Harvard, Cornell, Stanford, California, Michigan and Texas
    Sara Parkin OBE, Founder Director and Trustee of Forum for the Future and Director of the Natural Environment Research Council and the Leadership Foundation for Higher Education and Head Teachers into Industry.
    Jonathon Porritt CBE, Founder Director of Forum for the Future and Chairman of the UK Sustainable Development Commission.
    Sir Crispin Tickell GCMG KCVO, Chancellor of Kent University, Director of the Policy Foresight Programme at the James Martin Institute, and former UK Permanent Representative on the United Nations Security Council
BOARD OF TRUSTEES
  1. Edmund Davey is a former primary-school teacher and keenly involved in wildlife organisations. He is an expert in ecological footprinting methodology and sustainable energy.
    Martin Desvaux PhD CPhys is a physicist experienced in life assessment techniques for power generation, petrochemical and plant, and formerly a director of ERA Technology. He now researches ecological issues.
    Dr Pippa Hayes is a full-time general practitioner in Devon and mother of two teenage boys.
    Roger Martin, CHAIR OF TRUSTEES, was a senior diplomat, resigning 20 years ago; becoming a leading environmentalist in the South-West and serving on many green NGOs and quangos.
    Simon Ross is an established management consultant providing organisational strategy and performance improvement to the public and private sectors.
    Sir Adrian Stott is a management consultant and former town planner, specialising in strategy and organisation.
    Yvette Willey, Company Secretary, Treasurer and Membership Secretary. Yvette Willey has been with OPT since its foundation and is a businesswoman with treasury and accounts experience.
POLICY DIRECTORS
  1. Rosamund McDougall, Former Co-chair of OPT, Founder/MD of Peridot Press, financial journalist (The Banker, Financial Times) and family planning campaigner (Family Planning Association).
    David Nicholson-Lord, Former Environment Editor, Independent on Sunday, Deputy Chair of the New Economics Foundation and Chair of the Urban Wildlife Network.
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Sir David Frederick Attenborough

Controller for the BBC Two.....??? Big Media???

From 1965 to 1969 Attenborough was Controller of BBC Two. Among the programmes he commissioned during this time were Match of the Day, Civilisation, The Ascent of Man, The Likely Lads, Man Alive, Masterclass, Whicker's World, The Old Grey Whistle Test and The Money Programme. He also initiated televised snooker. This diversity of programme types reflects Attenborough's belief that BBC Two's output should be as varied as possible. In 1967, under his watch, BBC Two became the first television channel in the United Kingdom to broadcast in colour.
From 1969 to 1972 he was BBC Television's Director of Programmes (making him responsible overall for both BBC One and BBC Two), but ultimately turned down an offer of promotion that would have made him Director General of the BBC. In the year 1972 Attenborough resigned his post and returned to being a programme maker.

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Sir Partha Dasgupta
Sir Partha Dasgupta is the Frank Ramsey Professor of Economics and past chairman of the faculty of economics and politics at the University of Cambridge. From 1991 to 1997, Dasgupta was chairman of the scientific board of the Beijer International Institute of Ecological Economics of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences and, from 1989 to 1992, professor of economics and philosophy, and director of the Program in Ethics in Society at Stanford University. His research interests have covered welfare and development economics; the economics of technological change; population, environmental, and resource economics; the theory of games; and the economics of under nutrition. Dasgupta is a fellow of St. John's College, a fellow of the Econometric Society, a fellow of the British Academy, foreign honorary member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, honorary fellow of the London School of Economics, honorary member of the American Economic Association, member of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, foreign associate of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences, and fellow of the Third World Academy of Sciences. He is a past president of the Royal Economic Society (1998-2001) and the European Economic Association (1999). Dasgupta was named Knight Bachelor by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II in 2002 in her Birthday Honours List for services to economics and was co-recipient (with Karl Goran Maler) of the 2002 Volvo Environment Prize. He is a fellow of the Royal Society (elected 2004) and a foreign member of the American Philosophical Society (elected 2005).
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Oh I see RaKaR is back, hmmm, guess what, the earth will take care of itself. And we all will die in the process, whether it be starvation, climate change, war, natural disaster, disease, whatever, it will happen and we'll start all over again and probably do the same thing again, although we'll get better and better at taking care of earth each time. Evolving is a vicious cycle, it's a good thing we never really die, and learn by our mistakes!
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Paul R. Ehrlich

Paul Ralph Ehrlich (born 29 May 1932 ) is an American entomologist specializing in Lepidoptera (butterflies). He became a household name[1][2] after publication of his 1968 book The Population Bomb, in which he predicted that "In the 1970s and 1980s . . . hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now."


Career
Ehrlich currently is the president of the Center for Conservation Biology at Stanford University. He is a fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, and the American Philosophical Society.
Ehrlich's research group at Stanford currently works extensively on the study of natural populations of checkerspot butterflies (Euphydryas). Along with Dr. Gretchen Daily, he has conducted work in "countryside biogeography", or the study of making human-disturbed areas hospitable to biodiversity. Ehrlich continues to conduct policy research on population and resource issues, focusing especially on endangered species, cultural evolution, environmental ethics, and the preservation of genetic resources.

[edit] Population growth predictions

Ehrlich wrote an article that appeared in New Scientist in December 1967. In that article, Ehrlich predicted that the world would experience famines sometime between 1970 and 1985 due to population growth outstripping resources. Ehrlich wrote that "the battle to feed all of humanity is over ... In the 1970s and 1980s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now." Ehrlich also stated, "India couldn't possibly feed two hundred million more people by 1980," and "I have yet to meet anyone familiar with the situation who thinks that India will be self-sufficient in food by 1971." These specific predictions did not actually come to pass, and his later book The Population Explosion is much more cautious in its predictions.
The article led to the publication of The Population Bomb in 1968, advocating stringent population control policies.[7] His central argument on population is as follows:


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Professor Sir Partha Sarathi Dasgupta


is the Frank Ramsey Professor of Economics at the University of Cambridge, United Kingdom, and a fellow of St John's College, Cambridge. He was born in Dhaka, Bangladesh

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Dasgupta is a fellow of St. John's College, a fellow of the Econometric Society, a fellow of the British Academy, foreign honorary member of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, honorary fellow of the London School of Economics, honorary member of the American Economic Association, member of the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences, foreign associate of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences, fellow of the Third World Academy of Sciences and patron of the Optimum Population Trust. He is a past president of the Royal Economic Society (1998-2001) and the European Economic Association (1999). From 1991 to 1997, Dasgupta was chairman of the scientific board of the Beijer International Institute of Ecological Economics of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences and, from 1989 to 1992, professor of economics and philosophy, and director of the Program in Ethics in Society at Stanford University. Since 2008 he has been part-time Professor of Environmental and Development Economics at the University of Manchester's Sustainable Consumption Institute (SCI) and Brooks World Poverty Institute (BWPI).

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Dasgupta was named Knight Bachelor by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II in 2002 in her Birthday Honours List for services to economics and was co-recipient (with Karl Goran Maler) of the 2002 Volvo Environment Prize. He is a fellow of the Royal Society (elected 2004), a foreign member of the American Philosophical Society
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We all know this lady...

Dame Jane Goodall

born Valerie Jane Morris Goodall on 3 April 1934) is an English UN Messenger of Peace, primatologist, ethologist, and anthropologist. She is well-known for her 45-year study of chimpanzee social and family interactions in Gombe Stream National Park, Tanzania, and for founding the Jane Goodall Institute.


Goodall has been married twice. On 28 March 1964 she married aristocratic wildlife photographerBaron Hugo van Lawick at Chelsea Old Church, London, becoming Baroness Jane van Lawick-Goodall. The couple had a son, Hugo Eric Louis, affectionately known as 'Grub', who was born in 1967. They divorced in 1974. In 1975 she married Derek Bryceson (a member of Tanzania's parliament and the director of that country's national parks) and they remained married until his death in 1980. Jane and her younger sister, Judy, both suffer from prosopagnosia, a neurological condition which impairs the recognition of human faces

Now I love her work...but do you see a trend in the people involved in this organization? Aristrocracy everywhere....politics, agenda
You have to learn to question where the information you get is coming from...and I only scratched the surface
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Blessings To You All...

I must say that I really find this thread Inhumane at best and Genocidal at worst...

The population is what it is, because of the way the Governments and the Plutocricy of the World conducts itself...

Let Me Just Say:

I firmly believe that We could start to wipe out 'World Poverty' and the 'Increasing World Population' tomorrow if We really wanted to. Now when I say We, I mean All Governments of the world.

There are things such as Desalination Plants that would provide water suitable for Human Consumption and Irrigation that would give poorer countries in particular the ability to grow their own food and provide them with an abundant supply of fresh drinking water.
That in itself would eventually reduce World population, as there'd be a severely reduced need to have large families to scrape a meager existance from the land to feed themselves and to sell what little is left.

Abundance is clearly the key to this, you provide people with abundance - incidentally what every single Human Being on face of the Planet deserves at the very least - then this problem, as some would see it, would find a natural balance. Right now, the World population is in 'Balance' purely due to the circumstances that people find themselves in.

So in short; Provide the People of the World with 'Abundance' and let Nature find it's own 'Natural Balance'...

Namaste,

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Old 06-20-2009, 08:54 PM   #123
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Back to this guy....while I don't agree with everything the author says...here are some facts about one of the members of your organization...I will highlight the areas of concern...

From the WSJ Opinion Archives
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We're Doomed Again
Paul Ehrlich has never been right. Why does anyone still listen to him?


by RONALD BAILEY
Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:01 A.M. EDT

Environmentalist Paul Ehrlich has proved himself to be a stupendously bad prophet. In 1968 he declared: "The battle to feed all of humanity is over. In the 1970s, the world will undergo famines--hundreds of millions of people are going to starve to death." They didn't. Indeed, a "green revolution" nearly tripled the world's food supply. In 1975, he predicted that, by the mid-1980s, "mankind will enter a genuine age of scarcity," in which "accessible supplies of many key minerals will be facing depletion." Far from it. Between 1975 and 2000 the World Bank's commodity price index for minerals and metals fell by nearly 50%. In other words, we abound in "key minerals." Naturally, Mr. Ehrlich has won a MacArthur Foundation genius award--and a Heinz Award for the environment. (Yes, that Heinz: Teresa Heinz Kerry is chairman of the award's sponsoring philanthropy.)
So why pay him any notice? Because he is a reverse Cassandra. In "The Illiad," the prophetess Cassandra makes true predictions and no one believes her; Mr. Ehrlich makes false predictions and they are widely believed. The gloomier he is and the faultier he proves to be as a prophet, the more honored he becomes, even in his own country.


Any thinking person will thus want to know, accolades aside, what actual effect "One With Nineveh" will have on the intellectual environment. The title is taken from "Recessional," the poem in which Rudyard Kipling warned Victorian England that it, too, could fall, like the capital of the ancient kingdom of Assyria. Mr. Ehrlich--writing with his wife, Anne--asserts that "humanity's prospective collision with the natural world" means that "what is at risk now is global civilization."

"One With Nineveh" begins by recycling the now familiar catechism of environmentalist doom, but most of it is devoted to the Ehrlichs' hugely ambitious plans for reorganizing the world's economy and systems of government to ward off apocalypse. Homer used the word hubris to refer to this aspect of human nature.
The "prospective collision with the natural world" is supposed to happen when human population, economic growth and technological progress reach some horrible point of intersection on a chart of global doom. In the Ehrlichs' simplistic summary, environmental Impact equals Population x Affluence x Technology, the notorious I=PAT identity. Impact is, of course, always negative. One notes that the three factors aren't merely added together; their allegedly deleterious effects are multiplied.
History shows that the I=PAT identity largely gets it backward. Population is at worst neutral, while affluence and technology, far from harming nature, actually promote its flourishing. It is in the rich, developed countries that the air becomes clearer, the streams clearer, the forests more expansive. While the Ehrlichs put forward a few good ideas--such as replacing income taxes with consumption taxes and eliminating government subsidies--most of their analysis consists of antimarket screeds and hackneyed corporation-bashing. The Ehrlichs also underplay the good news. Globally, women are having fewer and fewer babies, so the world's population will likely peak at around eight billion in 50 years or so. The agronomist Paul Waggoner has argued that if farmers around the world can raise their productivity to current U.S. levels--even using current technology, nothing newer--they can easily feed 10 billion people, with better diets. And they can do so, according to his projections, using half the land they now farm, thus sparing more land for nature. The chief hope for that result is precisely the market that the Ehrlichs decry, and the economic dynamism that comes with it.

Of course, there are environmental problems, although not the global warming the authors fear. (Satellite data now suggest that such warming will be mild over the next century--about a degree Celsius.) But the depletion of fisheries and tropical forests is real enough. Alas, the Ehrlichs and most of their ecological confreres miss the central reason for it: the tragedy of the commons, where nobody owns a resource--forest, fish, water--and thus no one has a reason to protect it. By contrast, enclosing the commons, by assigning owners, internalizes costs and benefits, and allows markets to determine the value of any given resource. With characteristic wrongheadedness, they advocate instead eroding property rights, thus enlarging the commons and tending to make environmental problems worse.

In 1971, Mr. Ehrlich told Look magazine: "When you reach a point where you realize further efforts will be futile, you may as well look after yourself and your friends and enjoy what little time you have left. That point for me is 1972." What is Greek for "this is ridiculous"? Mr. Bailey is science correspondent for Reason magazine.

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Finally RaKaR....I truly believe you have the best of intentions
Your heart is in the right place for sure...however I believe you've been misguided by this group...there are lots of big names, and research done in that organization ...I would be impressed as well.

I strongly question their motives..and many of their theories are pure hogwash....and propaganda in my view.

if allowed to dig further I believe you could find many things that stink with this organization...primarily the head person on the contact list is Big media....I don't trust anything they put out there, and you should really start researching their motives as well
Blessings to you RaKaR...hoping you really dig into this and research what they are feeding you.
Brook


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XrGINLd_r8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djwnTbfuMnc

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Old 06-21-2009, 07:23 AM   #125
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Greeting you BROOK and all the others,

Thanks for your contributions.
I am indeed back, free of my academic duties, i.e end year examinations :-(

Now then.
I see insinuations, yet another conspiracy theory and a couple of trials of intentions; i am alas yet to see from you a single word on the statement itself, on the content of the call of Optimum Population Trust.
Is it rational?
Are there some grounds and logic in their proposals?
Is there any trace of reason and humaneness in this statement?
On which point do you object?
...

Once again, let us not throw the message together with the messenger - because we do not like her/his name.

And no, BROOK, i am not being mislead by these people; these people just happen to come to the same conclusion: We, Humans, must be more responsible in the way we procreate, in order not to further jeopardize the sustainablity of this planet, Mother Earth, together with all her Children.

Why shall we allow wars for resources to take place, famines, diseases, epidemics and massive migrations of weary fellow Humans to occur, when we can avoid them by embracing a scientific, democratic(applying to each and all), world wide BIRTH CONTROL - and preserve therethrough Human Dignity?


Mainwhile:

Over one billion people in world go hungry every day: UN report


"ROME, June 19 (Xinhua) -- World hunger is projected to reach a historic high in 2009 with 1.02 billion people going hungry every day, according to a new report published by the UN food agency FAO on Friday.

The most recent increase in hunger is not the consequence of poor global harvests, but is caused by the world economic crisis that has resulted in lower incomes and increased unemployment.

This has reduced access to food by the poor, the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations (FAO) said in the report.

"A dangerous mix of the global economic slowdown combined with stubbornly high food prices in many countries has pushed some 100 million more people than last year into chronic hunger and poverty," said FAO Director-General Jacques Diouf.

"The silent hunger crisis - affecting one sixth of all of humanity - poses a serious risk for world peace and security. We urgently need to forge a broad consensus on the total and rapid eradication of hunger in the world and to take the necessary actions," he told reporters at a news conference in Rome's FAO headquarters. "

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...t_11570339.htm



Shall we bring millions of new innocent souls into this misery - on a daily basis?


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