The Bible and the Evil God: Lies, deception & brainwashing

[Edward Alexander]

Some information about the errors, lies, deceit and evil of the Bible, Church and Christianity.

First I would ask you to check out my thread "Revelations from an Ascended Master" at http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?p=64709

I am myself a christian, but in what I consider the true form and not the perverted christianity put forth by the Church and the Bible.

The Church and the Bible are here to pervert and keep us in the darkness by giving us false information that is not helping us in our spiritual development, but rather keeps us stuck and on a lower level.

Look at more pure sources of true Christianity such as the Gospel of Thomas:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Thomas

About lies and deceit in the bible... Oh boy we could get going all day long there! To mention a few examples:

God is a god of Love and Forgiveness. Yet, in the bible, he kills and destroys, puts cities in ruins, because people are not doing things the way he want. What happened to the Free Will there? Oh it's not free will after all, its a dictatorship with God as the dictator deciding how Free our Will can be. And he can contradict himself all the time and kill when he wants, he is still loving and forgiving, doesn't matter that he say he will rip our hearts out and devour them as a bear.

"The LORD is a jealous God, filled with vengeance and wrath. He takes revenge on all who oppose him and furiously destroys his enemies! "
-Nahum 1:2-8 NLT

The god of the Bible is clearly an evil entity and not the True God. The God of All do NOT speak with or interfere with people and select "prophets" and so on. If he had something to say, he'd let us all know it at once, not by a selected few. That's what all those prophets are who communicate those messages of cruelity and evil - false prophets either telling lies on purpose, or because they are in contact with lower astral demons that like to play trick on people.

The Good never advocates Evil.

The Bible is also FULL of obvious mistakes, errors and direct contradictions. This is because the Bible is NOT the book of God, it's a book of MEN - MANY MEN. It consists of huge amounts of texts by a large group of people from different times. Then it was put together, some things were added, some things were removed, some things wrongly translated, some things forged and some things misunderstood - and you got a mixed up piece of hogwash called "The Bible".

Read the original hebrew texts, at least that gives some better insights than the translated versions called The Bible. Did you know that God is even stated as being several entities in the original texts? It is Elohim which is PLURAL, and it is spoken about several "gods", not One God of All - this can also explain the different characteristics and mindset of "God" in the bible, as it is different entities they're mentioning - as well as a lot of baloney that is made up and fabricated by both those who wrote the texts originally, as well as those who put it together later, and those who translated it to different versions of "The Bible", all with the purpose of gaining control and power of the Followers.

Science and History in the Bible worth checking out:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/science/long.html

And Contradictions in the Bible:
http://www.infidels.org/library/mode...adictions.html

As Jesus himself said in the Gospel of Thomas - considered the closest text to Jesus written by one of his own disciples - "I am the light that is over them all. I am the All; the All has come forth from me, and the All has attained unto me. Cleave a (piece of) wood: I am there. Raise up the stone, an ye shall find me there."

There is no need for a bible, nor a church, God needs not to be worshipped, God is Everywhere and All, and people need to discover and explore their own being rather than blindly believing the words of other men. Only you can punish or reward yourself from what you do with your life, God will not, you have the Key to Heaven and Hell - chose your Gate.


-EA

[arcora]

Regarding the contradictions in the bible. It was written by numerous people all from different times. Some was written down after being handed down verbally - other parts were written as remembered by those that were there.

Go watch the movie Citizen Kane. Everybody has a different viewpoint and colors their own memories with aspects of their own personalities. Yet the story of Kane's life is the same throughout.

Same goes for the bible. The message is consistent - even with a few contradictions created by the men who saw things a bit differently.

Next, God is loving, forgiving and to be feared. That is not a contradiction. Some day - if you ever have children - you'll understand this yourself.

You detest the Creator who gave you life and a beautiful world to live in. How sad.

[wwolf67]

Your a very wise man Edward = HUman
Was wondering what you know about the three supposed graves of Jesus
Peace and Love Brother

[Mikill]

Nonsense poopypants!!!!!If the bible were a false document it wouldn't have survived this long!!!

I would love to have free reign of the Vatican City and everything that is locked inside and search underneath - about a year should do it. A few forum members can help - no.

[wwolf67]

Originally Posted by Tuza

I would love to have free reign of the Vatican City and everything that is locked inside and search underneath - about a year should do it. A few forum members can help - no.

I don't think you would like the company you'd have down there

Some of you guys gotta come with me otherwise I might be frightened. Don't forget the video camera - and lots of film.

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by Tuza

I would love to have free reign of the Vatican City and everything that is locked inside and search underneath - about a year should do it. A few forum members can help - no.

Make sure and pack your reptile repellent. I hear the catacombs are crawling with them.

[Shadowstalker]

Originally Posted by Tuza

I would love to have free reign of the Vatican City and everything that is locked inside and search underneath - about a year should do it. A few forum members can help - no.

I'll join ya..

[Edward Alexander]

Allie: Thanks for that lengthy post and explanation =)

I will have to check out some of the work of Alice Bailey as I can not really comment on her at all.

Mostly I work with non-physical beings myself and honestly I read very little these days as I get more insights from myself and inner journeys than from any book.

Not sure what the racism is about, though I have heard about it, when it comes to Blavatsky as well. I've not studied theosophy in depth, mostly just read some of the material of the two authors I mentioned, and those two I'm quite fond of. However there is some material that is rather outdated and per my own experiences different than what they say. The problem, often, is that authors on these subjects tend to speak on behalf of Truth itself, as if they know The Answer - something I am very careful about doing myself. I can tell how things are, according to my own experience, but I will not say that this is the Truth, as I have realized there are in facts many "truths" and ways to experience reality, so it is a more fluid thing than a stable one, and changes constantly. Although there is of course what seem to be a more stable core of truth at deeper levels.

My own communication with the Masters are of great value and have taught me a lot, actually really profound things, and I keep realizing more and seeing more of our existence.

The deeper I dig the more complex it gets, the more answers I find the more questions arise =)

Love be with you all,
-EA

[meekforce]

alexsander says
My own communication with the Masters are of great value and have taught me a lot, actually really profound things, and I keep realizing more and seeing more of our existence.


Who are these masters?
What profound things?
What do you see of our existence?

[meekforce]

Originally Posted by Shadowstalker

I'll join ya..

I would too, but I do understand the old languages - Greek, hebrew (sounds like beer), sumarian, chinese, etc - but if you get there - please share

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by Mikill

Nonsense poopypants!!!!!If the bible were a false document it wouldn't have survived this long!!!

sorry, but it doesn't work that way. Truth vanishes and lies persist. On a very basic level, anyway.

[Norval]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

sorry, but it doesn't work that way. Truth vanishes and lies persist. On a very basic level, anyway.

You sure seem to be right, , , , , , ,



, , , , , , , well about this forum anyway.

That the bible survived the many many attempts to destroy it is quite remarkable.

Tuza packs a wooden stake, cross and holy water in bag now.

[Mikill]

as far as an evil god , his name is Satan.He's in the bible tooo!!!1

[Edward Alexander]

This is were you , the Bible promoters, get it all wrong... it did NOT survive!! For crying out loud. It is a perversed book completely different than its orginial texts and messages. Read THROUGH all the links in my first post in this thread. And see for yourself.

Then google some if you want to look deeper, "bible mistranslations", "bible translation errors", "bible forgery", "bible lies" "bible errors", "bible contradictions" and so on.

And ARCORA: YOU still contradict YOURSELF, saying at one point you believe the bible yet agree to its perversions and deceit and lies put there by those in power. I addressed you on this in another thread.

It is almost on the border of hilarious honestly, no offense, but you keep using the Bible as your source of "truth" and "word of god" yet at same time acknowledge that it was written by common people with personal beliefs, agendas and ideologies. Through centuries.

Almost as contradictive as the God you worship. Oh well. I can only feel sorry for your ignorance, as it has cllearly blinded you from the real Truth and Light of the God of All - hopefully one day you will find Him too - I'm sure you will, we all do, all paths eventually leads to the Truth, some faster than others.

Question authority on all levels, question your own beliefs, and look at the roots of where you beliefs come from and what they in fact are based on at its very foundation. Then look at where and how these beliefs were created, changed, altered, forged, manipulated, changed and otherwise perverted through time to suit those whom were controlling the Church, Religion, Bible texts, the Translations of the same - who got most from it, you the people, or they the Priests and Religious leaders?

-EA

[arcora]

xxx

[Mikill]

Actually, i've done a lot of bible study.Whenever the bible was translated or copied throughout history it was done painstakingly by monks who did it as their life's work.That my friends, is why the bible code works.Prepares for attacks*

[pilot]

I guess it's all very interesting to debate these fine points, but Edward in his first post said he is a Christian, by his definition. Arcora has stated that he/she is a Christian, if I am not mistaken...

What is a Christian? One who follows Christ.

Sooooo

What is the mandate? Love thy neighbor as thyself? Right?

Christ never said, nor do I think intended for a following to rise up around him and become part of the power structure he so valiantly railed against -I am certain following Christ does not have to include biblical nitpickery and arguing the "right" beliefs about words in a book. If so, you can have my share of it.

Your inflexibility and defensiveness does not reflect well on your hearts understanding of the Word you go to such lengths to protect from criticism. You see, I may not believe a word of the bible 'story', but the message of LOVE and Peace and Forgiveness is integrated into my heart, the dogma is irrelevant. Christianity is not the only path to Christ-consciousness.

Why does Edwards post bother people so much? It's a dis on the church and corruption, not Christ-consciousness.

[mu2143]

Just to get it, most of any studie made where funded by the elite. Because they where all ready in controle. Make believe that it was done by good people.
So it is no point of following any written text in some old book.

Read with your spirit not your logic. You now what is right and what is wrong
What is wrong with the bible hmm let me see ........

It is ok the start a Thermal nuclear war so you can be saved!!!that is what the bible is telling us. THIS is WRONG!!!!

Also it stated in the bible that two witnesses will apear and they are allowed to kill in the name of god. THIS is WRONG!!!

[100thmonkey]

Originally Posted by arcora

...You detest the Creator who gave you life and a beautiful world to live in. How sad.

Hmm, where did Ed say that?
Misquoting indeed.

[Allie]

Hi Edward

Which AM are you working with?

I might be wrong, but isn't your position similar to that of Alice Bailey?

Clearly, we all do our own research and end up with our own conclusions, but from my perspective, there was much in the Bailey work that bothered me. I believe Kuthumi is supposed to have said something to the effect that her ego took over and that her work was fraught with misinformation.

[ctophil]

Here a few things I need to cover about Bible corruptions. Yes, the Bible is corrupted. But a majority of it are not. If you disregard the scriptures altogether, you will end up lost and confused. Because after all, they are the words of Yahweh. If you have not read the Bible at all or read only a little bit of it, then this is not even an argument. Allow me to quote a few verses:

Deuteronomy 4:2 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

"2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you."

As you can see here, Yahweh DOES NOT want people to add or take away His words and teachings.


Revelation 22:18-19 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

"18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

"19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

Again, at the very end of the scriptures, He talks about how much He dislikes people who add and/or take away His words. He will see to it that He shall destroy those who do this by taking him/her out of the Book of Life!!

Here I quote from the book of Matthew:

Matthew 4:4 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

"4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God."

If you do not read the scriptures, use Yahweh's Spirit to decipher what is truth and what is not, then you will not be able to live properly as a Son or Daughter of Yahweh. You will become lost and confused just like those who are blind (spiritually). Religion has corrupted the Bible, but not all of it. I have done comparisons to the original Dead Sea Scrolls myself. And I can pinpoint directly to what is corrupted and what is not. So Yahweh has stopped it from being fully corrupted. If you study the history of the KJV (Kings James Version), then you know that Sir Francis Bacon totally corrupted the first edition that came out in 1611. However, King James and some people didn't allow this and re-issued the KJV without the occultic symbolism and false messages in the first edition. That is only one example. However, the KJV still have a bunch of bad translations in the verses and false additions to it. But I have studied the Bible long and intensively enough to realize what is Truth and What has been corrupted.

-Phillip

[2infinityandbeyond]

Originally Posted by ctophil

Here a few things I need to cover about Bible corruptions. Yes, the Bible is corrupted. But a majority of it are not. If you disregard the scriptures altogether, you will end up lost and confused. Because after all, they are the words of Yahweh. If you have not read the Bible at all or read only a little bit of it, then this is not even an argument. Allow me to quote a few verses:

Deuteronomy 4:2 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

"2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you."

As you can see here, Yahweh DOES NOT want people to add or take away His words and teachings.


Revelation 22:18-19 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

"18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

"19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

Again, at the very end of the scriptures, He talks about how much He dislikes people who add and/or take away His words. He will see to it that He shall destroy those who do this by taking him/her out of the Book of Life!!

Here I quote from the book of Matthew:

Matthew 4:4 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)

"4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God."

If you do not read the scriptures, use Yahweh's Spirit to decipher what is truth and what is not, then you will not be able to live properly as a Son or Daughter of Yahweh. You will become lost and confused just like those who are blind (spiritually). Religion has corrupted the Bible, but not all of it. I have done comparisons to the original Dead Sea Scrolls myself. And I can pinpoint directly to what is corrupted and what is not. So Yahweh has stopped it from being fully corrupted. If you study the history of the KJV (Kings James Version), then you know that Sir Francis Bacon totally corrupted the first edition that came out in 1611. However, King James and some people didn't allow this and re-issued the KJV without the occultic symbolism and false messages in the first edition. That is only one example. However, the KJV still have a bunch of bad translations in the verses and false additions to it. But I have studied the Bible long and intensively enough to realize what is Truth and What has been corrupted.

-Phillip

I say this with the highest of respect, but have you ever considered thinking for yourself and then quoting yourself?

Now, of all times is most definitly not the time for quoting ancient texts. Now is the time for people to start thinking for themselves, and finding their own truths.

Quoting the bible is a one way ticket to an argument simply because your dealing with inteligent people.