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01-24-2009, 02:14 PM | #651 |
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Re: 2012 Nexus Event – Unknown Form of Energy comes our way!
Thanks Malletzky. I really appreciate.
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Let's get the "Airy-Fairy" thing straight though. This might be the wrong term, I merely used it as a 'catch-all' for positive world-change through alternative/new age methods - be that off word/dimension presence of assistance or 'scientifically proven' gamma-rays. Fill me in again, I thought those were lethal. As for the language, I'm simply saying that people that aren't as open as I am but have gone through a conditioning like me won't listen, even if they are 'ready' as they say. We're leaving them behind. If we're fine with doing so and believe in our numbers to be sufficient for holographic change, all shall be good but so far I haven't seen numbers. It's a phantom presence so far, who will actually be 'there' (intention or space) is another question. Quote:
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To be clear, I don't know how this works, and I am glad to see that you guys try to answer these questions. However, if this is the idealistic self-organising group that this claims to be then in my perception that would also mean that each member must have the possibility to inform her/himself to the same degree that everyone else is. Otherwise, I doubt that you can call this 'leaderless', which you so insisted on in the first place. I don't have the scientific understanding to evaluate all those statements, to me they are nice stories that somehow try to make me understand a concept of how it works, but really it's been proven more than enough that scientifically proven doesn't mean it's true. Don't believe a statistic unless you faked it yourself. So what I do is that I listen to what is said carefully, consider all possible but nothing certain. I'm fine with trust but I also watch the dynamics behind the people that I trust ESPECIALLY online. Sometimes I get the feeling that we're blindly following and call this a 'non-hierarchical' because anyone can throw a link or an opinion in and contribute. In that sense, let's carry on and take this to its limits, I'm motivated as hell to get it out there, but my eyes are wide open. 0_0 Well, if you promise it won't go down, then I believe you of course. |
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The teachings of Don Juan Anything is one of a million paths. Therefore you must always keep in mind that a path is only a path; if you feel you should not follow it, you must not stay with it under any conditions. To have such clarity you must lead a disciplined life. Only then will you know that any path is only a path and there is no affront, to oneself or to others, in dropping it if that is what your heart tells you to do. But your decision to keep on the path or to leave it must be free of fear or ambition. I warn you. Look at every path closely and deliberately. Try it as many times as you think necessary. This question is one that only a very old man asks. Does this path have a heart? All paths are the same: they lead nowhere. They are paths going through the bush, or into the bush. In my own life I could say I have traversed long long paths, but I am not anywhere. Does this path have a heart? If it does, the path is good; if it doesn't, it is of no use. Both paths lead nowhere; but one has a heart, the other doesn't. One makes for a joyful journey; as long as you follow it, you are one with it. The other will make you curse your life. One makes you strong; the other weakens you. Before you embark on any path ask the question: Does this path have a heart? If the answer is no, you will know it, and then you must choose another path. The trouble is nobody asks the question; and when a man finally realizes that he has taken a path without a heart, the path is ready to kill him. At that point very few men can stop to deliberate, and leave the path. A path without a heart is never enjoyable. You have to work hard even to take it. On the other hand, a path with heart is easy; it does not make you work at liking it. I have told you that to choose a path you must be free from fear and ambition. The desire to learn is not ambition. It is our lot as men to want to know. The path without a heart will turn against men and destroy them. It does not take much to die, and to seek death is to seek nothing. For me there is only the traveling on the paths that have a heart, on any path that may have a heart. There I travel, and the only worthwhile challenge for me is to traverse its full length. And there I travel--looking, looking, breathlessly. Why do I walk the nexus project ? Because it's a path which has a heart. How do I know it has a heart ? Because I am not forced to walk it , I am not forced to support it , I am not asked anything ..not even to believe in it.. I travel it with my heart and I see other hearts around me going in the same direction ... I am not expecting the whole of humanity to travel the way with me or to adhere to it as I do.. Convincing others is not part of it..Invite them to come in on their own free will is part of it.. And the ones which will come along will open the road for the ones who are left aside.. We can't process a" heart " project through the censure of the mind because for the mind it will never be good enough.. Czimra if you feel you can present it better though and get new people to come by doing so you are free to do this. You probably also have the ability to do it.You seem to have a clear idea about it . Go ahead and become an excellent mediator.We probably can learn something from your talent there. But really it doesn't matter how many we will be to begin with .. What matters is the purity of our intention and our heartfelt resonance with this project We just have to let it start and it will grow nicely as it gains reality and experience. kindness mudra Last edited by mudra; 01-24-2009 at 11:01 PM. |
01-24-2009, 11:03 PM | #655 |
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Hey hey hey...Guys, just please take a deep breath, all of you...please
Please don't get me wrong...I'm not the spokesman or lawyer of anyone here... But: First: If any of us here is responsible enough (which I know we are, otherwise we wouldn't be here), then please know that no one who's ready to go ahead will be left behind. Let me give you one simple example: I will never allow to left behind my both children, which are both much more advanced that I'm (they just need a teacher, and I'm so happy I can teach them) ...and my wife. And there's my bigest problem: my wife is a kind of person, well let's say, she's too grounded. Without proof, nothing is real. No matter how hard I try to explain her what's going on in my head and what I'm trying to do, she requiers for proof...which I don't have any, at least not all the time And believe me, this is a hard job to do Anyway, I won't give up. I'm on a good way, to at least show her that there is much more that she thinks there is on this planet. Further: I'm the last one who will allow to be leaded, or influenced, which I already mentioned so far. Well yes, I also must trust someone, but I only trust ME. This is nothing new and has been said here so many times, so I don't want to repeat this once again...but we must trust ourselves first. If all that has been posted here resonates with ME, I'll stay here and try to contribute with something I'm good in. Am I still here? YES!!! I hope you know and understand what I mean... Sure, no one requires that we all MUST be on the same level of consciousness. Not now, not on this level, not on this plane, call it whatever you want. But we will be once... I personaly know some other people (humans) out there, who doesn't even know that this forum exist, who's consciousness is much higher that mine...and yours... And they will only earn my respect at the moment they will step forward and tell the world what they know and tell us how to achieve that higher state of consciousness. If the question is: Do I know any, who already step forward and tell their thruth?? The answer is: YES!!! I know many! I know YOU!! ALL of YOU here on this forum deserve to be respected for what YOU do: namely stepping forward and tell your thruth!!!! And as last: Finding the ballance is something I know will bring us forward. The ballance in everything we do, say or even think. So once again, I must appeal to all of you here: please find your inner ballance, don't allow your mind and your ego to take the overhand. And this include the most important thing: don't get all that has been said here too personaly. Trust YOURSELF my friends. Know that the persons, who do not wish you well and try to harm you, will vanish. This happened so many times in my life, and I know it happened to all of you too. Anyway, I don't hate them. Much more, I'm thankfull that I have learned something from them. I've learned their expiriences in order to get more ballanced. Therefore, thank YOU all, for beeing here and let me expirience your expiriences. Last edited by Malletzky; 01-24-2009 at 11:06 PM. |
01-25-2009, 12:06 AM | #656 |
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Inner Balance I find inner balance walking a railroad track Years of practice has turned this into a knack Since elementary school i've enjoyed the rails Sometimes i had more fun with them than my pals I feel so calm and collected in my solitude It brightens my day with a heightened attitude I sway my arms to the left and to the right To an observer i must look like a bird in flight Rarely do i fall off but if that be the case I hop right back on with a smile on my face I don't judge the faulty step instead i just laugh It keeps my spirits high like the head of a giraffe Each step that i take i watch down below For i seek not to harm any creature fellow Ants and caterpillars join me at their own pace Unlike the tortoise and the hare this is not a race I have walked for miles 'til my eyes begin to blur My mind goes blank, not a single thought does stir The outer and the inner dissolve into one My heart rejoices, i am at peace, i am done peace, mikey |
01-25-2009, 12:56 AM | #657 |
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Wisely said Malletzky and beautifully turned into poetry Alchemikey
Thank you for reminding us we are a family. I am sure we are the ones we have been waiting for .. Just needs a little attunement but basically I feel we all travel in the same direction . I sincerely respect all of you here. Kindness mudra |
01-25-2009, 07:59 AM | #658 |
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I think it's important to try to consider an effort like this, trying quite hard to be different, as eternally subjective.
It's important not to try to objectify it, stereotype it, because then it can fall into one of the previous traps out there and that's a really dangerous thing. I've been trying to see it as the beginnings of a collective effort for when everyone finally becomes willing to set aside their differences, and combines their energy towards a mutually beneficial cause. It's only natural that the types of people who will be the most likely to tend towards this kind of approach, be the first aboard. But I do see the message Czymra is trying to put out, only for down the road, when we don't want other types of people being turned off from joining. I remember past occasions where that was certainly the case. This is why I am trying to put forward more of a scientific perspective, so that we can try to see it from that angle as well. As this reality is almost certainly a holographic reality built entirely from waveforms in the form of "strings" - see articles like: http://www.newscientist.com/article/...rue&print=true then I believe there are certain rules it operates according to. I believe these rules to be the same applicable to systems of waveforms. This means that the most powerful variable in the equation is to get a numerically significant amount of people concentrating their energy together. It really is a valid hypothesis, the point of contention some people down the road might feel is that this is a particularly elusive form of energy when it comes to measurement. There are for example some very interesting videos out there having to do with measuring Qi Gong, it turns out the energy has to do with the infrasonic band and the reasons it is so difficult to measure has to do with calibration issues of the measuring devices themselves. We are dealing with a real force here, the real question I feel lays in considering where previous similar efforts went wrong. I feel I have already outlined a few, and would be really happy to discuss them. I think it's important to make clear that we don't have to worry about taking up discussion of such things when we know our intentions are all the same - to set the parameters of the one project that can go beyond argumentation because this is the time in the world we need to be willing to do this, for once. If we have it in ourselves to carefully structure our sentences in a way where we are making it clear we only want to reconcile all of the loose ends and put together an all-encompassing approach to this so we don't get tied into any limited stereotypes like the "airy-fairy" stereotype, then by all means, let's do it! I promise I will be contributing with the sound files and they will be laden with the catalytical emotional content, something sincere. I have often felt that a lot of the new age type of music was lacking in sincerity and wanted to contribute especially in this way so that it could be different for a change. The previous demonstration file was simply to illustrate that such a meditation file is only a field of potential, but with no catalyst, it is benign. I wish I hadn't become so busy with other highly relevant endeavors (I am formally studying the science of such things related to this project, for example I am learning to generate the acoustic reverberant ambience of the inside of a pyramid for future files). Otherwise I would be able to participate more. But I will stand by my commitment to produce the content for this meditation, so even if I am not around in the coming days, keep in mind I will be at work on our behalf. let's remember to keep things at the heart of the matter and each be willing to commit to this as the one project that tried to be different, to set aside the limitations, for example: in the reply to my previous post it was clear that there was something lost in translation in what i had posted, the word "influencing" had a bad sound to it to someone. ironically the same thing happened for me earlier in the thread for anyone who's been following, the word "harvest" had a bad sound, and the word "ascension" seemed too limited and implied a hierarchical structure of "higher" and "lower". but what we all need to realize is that we are getting caught up on these limited words, if we think to ourselves what we really mean, more often than not it is something beyond all words. we forget how much our words limit us, just imagine the purity of telepathic communication, if it were possible for us all! how much less we'd get hung up on if we communicated in this way to each other. i am sure one day we are heading to this. in the meantime, we can practice giving each other the benefit of the doubt, to speculate as to whether what we really mean is far beyond what the words might first imply to us. when i used the word "influencing", i meant a very specific use of the word that has an absolutely wonderful definition for it. but without clarifying this, i cannot blame the other individual for reading it as it stood on its own. the word comes from the spiritual practices taught here and through their course materials: http://www.probablefuture.com/ this group has only the purest intentions in mind, always has, and i've been following with it since it began, just about. influencing, in this case, means only to improve the circumstances with which the future constructs itself, nothing more. it is not an assertive approach to conditioning others to fall into line with a way of thinking, whatsoever. i think we're going to need to all try to think beyond the old boundaries of stereotypes and conflicts for a cause greater than us all. the only thing that will matter at the end of the day, no matter what happens to us all, is whether mentally speaking we were able to come into the new paradigm of thought, that does away with the old forms of misunderstanding. i am sure of it. and i am sure we can all do it! let the project grow beyond its initial proportions only once this is all mutually understood, i say. until then, there's no rush, otherwise we risk being just another project that fell into the same old traps. i say we really make an effort defining it clearly as the one project that tried to be different, to define itself subjectively rather than objectively. this is the subject of our ability to work things out and come together when a mutually beneficial cause is apparent to us all. this is the time on the timeline of our planet for a shift to this way of thinking, i am sure. forget the words i am typing themselves, just try and listen for the feeling i am trying to capture with them. the feeling will say much more than the words ever could. take care everyone |
01-25-2009, 08:17 AM | #659 |
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It's simple.
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01-25-2009, 08:54 AM | #660 |
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forget the words i am typing themselves, just try and listen for the feeling i am trying to capture with them. the feeling will say much more than the words ever could.
indeed phiedpiper ... i agree ... the words are simply words ... the feelings give birth to the intention ... you write of communicating telepathically ... i do so every night within my travels outside of the 3d world ... communication is the exchange of feelings ... there are no words ... words do not exist ... meaning is given and received within being ... all of being ... it bypasses the mind ... and yet ... always is it woven within the heart ... communication is meaning felt through the heart ... all is shared via heart central ... and so when you write that the meaning will say much more than the words ever could ... it is so true ... pure intention is born of the heart ... and when shared in unity ... powerful things can be created ... vibration can effortlessly be raised in this world ... the energy of this then resonates with more people ... and then more ... expanding exponentially ... once the momentum of loving energy picks up ... we'll be travelling so quickly to the new world we are creating that we won't even remember what once was ... once we get going ... no obstacles can get in the way ... we are at a peak in this moment ... to allow momentum of this shift to pick up speed ... this WILL be accomplished ... we CAN do this collectively ... our intention must be of the moment ... not to worry about the words and what will be in future years ... our intention should be about sharing our abilities collectively for this first meditation ... do not have concerns about the next and the ones after that ... we are co-creating our new world ... trust that the universe will create with us what will be ... the momentum WILL pick up ... it already has ... beneficial is it to clear our minds of our fears of what might not happen and open our hearts to what WILL occur ... this shift WILL occur ... it has to though be born of heart central ... it has to be born from a feeling ... and carried along the way ... with love ... Last edited by futureyes; 01-25-2009 at 09:51 AM. |
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But really it doesn't matter how many we will be to begin with .. What matters is the purity of our intention and our heartfelt resonance with this project We just have to let it start and it will grow nicely as it gains reality and experience. kindness mudra simply and beautifully said mudra ... |
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The following is a powerful yet very simple method of meditation which involves focus on the physical heart and cultivating gratitude. I think this might be something to consider including here.
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There may be different paths and ways of expression to all of us but the abyss we have to cross to awaken into ONE consciousness remains the same. Kindness mudra |
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Czymra, you're so close to being right on the money for me my friend. This energy you have needs now to be totally focussed on the achievable, for yourself and for those you choose to reach out to within that enormously diverse audience out there.
Astralwalker, it's hard to imagine anyone more genuinely motivated than yourself. I respect your opinions and am grateful for your energy in starting and maintaining this thread. I feel, however, that the potential for any 'broad effect' of your intentions may be dissipating as the true breadth and depth of the overall task unfolds. I wish you well in holding it together. Personally, within my own environment and because I realise I can only possibly deal with the achievable at the moment, I have taken on a minor role of teacher/ translator, but I will be ready to up-my-game when my inner self tells me the time is right. Please be assured that I will always be ready to support those of you who demonstrate unconditional preparedness to take our positive messages forward in whatever way you feel you can. Respect ... Panpravda |
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Ok…lets proceed one step further.
We are starting on Sunday Feb 8 2009 (7 PM Eastern European Time). The method that I put with the combination of the Stiros idea is good for a start. http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...t=8441&page=26 The method Sanat provided is also very good, but it is too complicated for beginners. Once more, the starting time: 7 PM Eastern European Time - - - 12noon Eastern North America Time --- 9am Western North America Time. Everyone who wants to join the first run or try of tuning into meditative etheric ONENESS, has to start with the meditation according to the Time Zone of his/her location. I will arrange with Alchemikey this: On the Alchemikey (Nexus 2012) web site, soon, there will be uploaded music, so we can all vote, which music we feel it is the best for this. http://www.healingexperiment.com/thepeople.html Another thread should be opened so people can vote what they feel it’s the best option. I hope PhieldPaper will provide his audio choice soon and he will deliver those files to Alchemikey so we can hear his work or suggestion. I will upload my list of music files too, and everyone else who thinks he/she has some audio music that can serve for this purpose can contact respected Alchemikey on pm and arrange the upload with him. Which music or audio file will be decided and it will get the most votes, it will be used on the first global meditation from homes on Feb 8 2009. The chosen audio file will be played at the very beginning of the meditation exactly on 7 PM Eastern European Time and everywhere according to the Time/Zone difference. When the audio file will be selected, Alchemikey will put a downloading link on the Nexus 2012 website, so everyone who wants to participate can download the file from there. Lets move people… Czymra, not to worry my friend, nothing has changed. I just waited for the feedback from the people. Your words are smart and your intentions are good. The synchronisation will come, but as I said earlier it is step by step process. Thanks to every one of you who has understanding and support for what we are building here. Deepest respect to you all. Quote:
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This is nothing new, the new-age movement have been doing group meditations like this on power days (11-11, 12-12 etc) for a long time. Mind you, it's good to have more energy focussed on the task :-) Personally, I won't be taking part consciously as I don't find much time free for meditation anyway. I find I've always done what's needed to be done when it had to be done anyway. I'd read of some meditation that had happened and think "I did that and didn't even know the meditation was happening!".
In short, what I'm saying is don't do something because someone says for you to do it on a particular day, allow yourself to be guided by spirit as to what to do at the moment and you will *ALWAYS* find that you do *EXACTLY* what needs to be done *WHEN* it needs to be done. Spirit never lets you down! ;-) I'll probably take part in my astral body during my sleep, knowing what I'm like :-))) Azarus Ankh'aa / Joel Cocks |
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Thank you Astralker for being such a dedicated soul .It's a blessing you came in our lives.
We will see this more and more as this project unfolds. I can only choose to support you keeping in mind that this is not an easy goal and that it takes a lot of courage to face it and stand by it. Your strengh is our strengh and our strengh combined will be yours. I am proud to be part of this project with you and all others here which are keeping this thread alive . Ok for the 8th of february I am in for the global meditation. Blessings to you all mudra |
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Mudra,
Thanks my friend. I really appreciate. I said it once and I will say it again - We are sharing the same vision. Respect to you, Astralwalker |
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I do not know how to meditate properly but I know how to send intention from my heart. A lot of things in my life materialize when I really put my heart into it. It's like the universe is really listening to me...
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alright so i have put together some healing music that i listen to on a regular basis...i am not sure if a miracle happened or not but when i uploaded the songs from a mixed cd labeled healing to lala.com for the playlist two songs were uploaded in exchange for the ones i was intending to upload...i have never heard these songs before, they are both purely instrumental, they are not on the cd or the computer, i don't know where they came from? tracks 1 and 8...has anyone heard these before?
http://www.healingexperiment.com/themusic.html peace, mikey |
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