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Old 10-27-2008, 02:02 PM   #26
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We can tell all the people what a few of us know but their day of enlightenment will only come when they start to inform themselves; keep talking don't stop but give them a break, think back to your first piece of the puzzle.
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Old 10-27-2008, 02:07 PM   #27
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i started talking to young people, teenagers. And some of them seem to be very interested. It looks like young people are more willing to listen to an adult. They have visited a few sites, and want more. that's promising.
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Old 10-27-2008, 02:19 PM   #28
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You need to understand that we are living on a young soul planet. The greatest number of those who are waking up are actually wanderers - if you know what that means. This third density reality has been so well designed to suck inn consciousness and hold it down in its fragmented grip. After writing three books on the nature of consciousness and society, believe me this is a universal story - I mean it covers the entire planet.

I have found, or attempted to find, a solution. I wrote a small book that is only 22 pages long - it is an entertaining metaphor that I call "The Game" - about life and its hidden structures. This is for those that dont have time to read any more than they can digest in 30 minutes. It might get their interest up. You can down load it free at: http://www.acnlp.no/textsider/Englis...blications.htm

The other free books there require thinking and that is hard for a lot of people.

Pulling a third density consciousness out of the matrix when it is grown up is an extremely worthy, but tiresom task. good luck

I thank you for the free books. Free info folks!! no subscription, no hidden fees, mike, thats cool

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Old 10-27-2008, 02:27 PM   #29
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to "wake up" other people so that they can see ,with their own eyes ,what is going on around us. I gave a hint to my sister ,who lives in another European country, and immediately she showed interest in this matter. Now she's spreading the news among people she knows.I'm trying to convey the message to people I know( so far I 've convinced only one of my neighbours to start reading and get informed) but they always seem to have other more exciting things to do like: watching their favourite TV programs or working overtime. I encourage them to see at least one video or go to one site and then see if they are interested or not. their best excuse is I "didn't have time". My sister apparently has similar problems.
Chinese saying: "It is more easy to move a mountain than to changes a man's will."
Lead by example. Act woke up and you will invite woke up. Your biggest message is the kindness and benevolence you bring with you. Peace.
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Old 10-27-2008, 03:55 PM   #30
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Im my personal experience i have concluded after nearly ten years that i have never really succeeded on "waking up" someone to what i think they should be more aware of what is happening in this world.

Many would put some interest, but not enough.

Seems, that the only way they have to wake up is through the huge pain the consecuences of such ignorance will bring when the evidence starts to destroy their lifes.

If the evidence really never starts to destroy their paradigms, there wouldn´t have had any need to "teach" anyone on how screwed our world is, i think.

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Old 10-27-2008, 04:25 PM   #31
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This is really a good thread and all of your answers is what this site was created for , good constructive dialog. I learn from you, and we all learn from each other by bouncing our ideas and knowledge off each other. If what Bill Deagle says is to explore the most tragic , then I would say it gives all of us that are awakened to take that many more proactive positions of staying positive, spreading the postive, and emitting that energy as much as possible to other individuals who care. I too have many close friends who ya think I'm off to the edge and then there are the ones who say maybe, beat the drum enough , show people the way by facts and good dialog and yes it does rub off. Planting the seeds by many of you on this board means we are the front line and that certainly needs to start somewhere and I think it is here which makes all of you very special indeed. Collectively we all can make a difference.

I keep reminding myself of when georgia had a state pray day not long ago to pray for it to start raining becuase of the drought, there not out of the woods yet but it's been raining ever since and it's not been on the news since eiither.
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Old 10-27-2008, 04:28 PM   #32
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Some of my friends are wide awake, a few are just starting to open their eyes but some are fast asleep and refuse to wake up.
I think most of them think I'm mad
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Old 10-27-2008, 10:40 PM   #33
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i started talking to young people, teenagers. And some of them seem to be very interested. It looks like young people are more willing to listen to an adult. They have visited a few sites, and want more. that's promising.
That's because teenagers haven't been "tainted" yet and still have an open mind on things, which is very cool. I have tried to wake up a few family members but they always say "smoke another one" and blow it off.
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Old 10-28-2008, 03:43 AM   #34
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I've been having the pleasure of watching a friend wake up. A few days ago she said she thinks ufos are real.

Due to the current mess of the world more people are upset and starting to lift their heads out of the sand because they don't understand what is going on. Deep inside they are becoming aware something is not right with the world but they are barely peeking out from under the covers but the feeling is like a nest of angry hornets.
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Old 10-28-2008, 01:18 PM   #35
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I watched the film "The Matrix" last night (1st time since being awake) and there are so so so many parallels to what we are all going through right now.

I'm sure my red pill was the 6 day tantric for singles school of awakening active mediation I did mind blowing infact but since then I've been loading my skill base and wanting to know the truth ever since...

I think anything which clears your chakras (healing, reiki, yoga, tia chi, relaxing, meditation)and gets you out of the box of standard life ie material, ego, fear, etc are a good thing...

I'm not convinced everyone needs to wake up and I've given up trying too hard else you get classed a 'nut job'... I give those that I think will be open some reiki and they say that is wierd but 'all in my mind'
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Old 10-30-2008, 09:20 PM   #36
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I really wonder if our role in all this is to become the ones that people will come to when all hell breaks loose.

I am thinking that we volunteered for this assignment and our real job right now is to gather the appropriate information so we can become the teachers.
It is as though we are all here in "teachers' college" being prepared to be sent out there.

We may think people are not listening to us but anyone that has ever had anything to do with sales, you know you don't always get that sale on your first visit. You keep coming back and trying without being annoying and quite often you end up with the sale.

I have had people come up to me and say things like "remember that time you were telling me about..........." ? Sometimes I had forgot that I had discussed a certain subject with them but obviously I had struck a cord.

Hang in there and get prepared for the upcoming changes!!

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Old 10-30-2008, 09:29 PM   #37
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I really wonder if our role in all this is to become the ones that people will come to when all hell breaks loose.

I am thinking that we volunteered for this assignment and our real job right now is to gather the appropriate information so we can become the teachers.
It is as though we are all here in "teachers' college" being prepared to be sent out there.

We may think people are not listening to us but anyone that has ever had anything to do with sales, you know you don't always get that sale on your first visit. You keep coming back and trying without being annoying and quite often you end up with the sale.

I have had people come up to me and say things like "remember that time you were telling me about..........." ? Sometimes I had forgot that I had discussed a certain subject with them but obviously I had struck a cord.

Hang in there and get prepared for the upcoming changes!!

Yes! they are coming back and they want to know more. I think I have planted the seed.
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Old 10-30-2008, 09:40 PM   #38
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Well, my husband of 31 years comes in and says "your not on that thing again are you (PA) - "Your all bloody fruit cakes". "Are you going to apologise when you are wrong again".


Mmmmmmmmmmmmh. See what I am up against.
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Old 10-30-2008, 10:11 PM   #39
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Burgundia...
Regarding your first post- I understand your frustration completely. I wonder how I would've reacted, though, if I were one of the sleep walking folk who was approached by one of us 'awakened' folk with the ideas, thoughts, and knowledge we have most likely acquired on our own. I think I would be hard to shake as well. I wonder if for most people, it needs to be a personal disclosure, enlightenment, and awareness. So you can absorb anything and everything at your own pace. I'm not sure I'd be where I am today if I had someone urging me to 'check out this n' that.' I approached it when I was 'ready' subconsciously. So now, I find I have to bite my tongue when I start to make others aware of the real world (universe, even) and simply just drop casual hints instead. It's really frustrating though!! Because I truly want to shout it from the rooftops!!
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Old 10-30-2008, 10:46 PM   #40
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Karmakah,

You are right it is extemely frustrating.

We had an all candidates meeting here recently and someone did get up and started yelling that 9-11 was an inside job and masons are going to take over the world. He went on about other issues. Unfortunately it only caused a scene and now everyone thinks he's out of it.


The worst thing is that it makes it harder to talk about these things to those that were there or heard the story. They'd think I'm crazy like him.

Tuza,

Just hang in there!

He says that now, but when the ---- hits the fan. Who will be apologizing then. He will be very thankfull that he married you.
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Old 10-31-2008, 03:03 AM   #41
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Yes it's very hard to convert skeptics to believe in what the worldwide governments are hiding ; it hardly ever works so to speak.

Also, I found that a lot of people who don't believe in Extraterrestrials have a very distinctive way of thinking that goes like this:

They do not want to believe what the Government is telling them because apparently everything coming from the Government is considered a lie.
At this point, those people fall in their own trap and stay blindly in that state of mind by saying that if the Governments are starting to talk more about Aliens and all subjects related to that aspect, it's because it's a lie also.
So to them, Extraterrestrials are also a lie because it comes from the same source ; the government.

Basically they cannot discern that a fraction of the government is trying to put an end and open Pandora's box.


I just want to tell you that once one of our teachers at College/University said in front of the class that some people are lost in their conspiracies, and he took the example of the 9-11 event to ridicule how some people thought that the government made it on themselves. He thinks that the idea is a "joke".


Sad...if he knew he was ridiculing what really hapenned...
Anyhow, the Governments need people like this ; they feed off the stupidity of the sheep.

Glad we are awaken.
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Old 10-31-2008, 09:41 AM   #42
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I was speaking to a chap the other day and was telling him about aspartame and how bad it was, he was happy to learn this, the I mentioned I had been reading about all sorts of stuff on the net, I mentioned conspiracy ideas and he got really angry, not with me but with the idea that people believe 911 was anything other than a terrorist attack. I changed the subject as it was obvious that he needs more sleep
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Old 10-31-2008, 09:43 AM   #43
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I sopke to a few marines about 9-11 being an inside job. They looked at me as if I had burned the flag right in front of them! I had to get my ox out of the ditch!
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Old 10-31-2008, 12:47 PM   #44
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Swanney,

Speaking of aspartame I don't know if there is anything to it or not but I have found that people who drink a lot of diet pop and chew sugar free gum are harder to talk to about things. We have a few friends that drink a lot of it and we find this wall. We have given them documents on aspartame and have had no results. They don't seem to be interested in other conspiracy either. Yet our other friends who agree aspartame is bad are a lot more open and we have made in roads with them.

There are no coincidences.
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Old 10-31-2008, 12:54 PM   #45
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Swanney,

Speaking of aspartame I don't know if there is anything to it or not but I have found that people who drink a lot of diet pop and chew sugar free gum are harder to talk to about things. We have a few friends that drink a lot of it and we find this wall. We have given them documents on aspartame and have had no results. They don't seem to be interested in other conspiracy either. Yet our other friends who agree aspartame is bad are a lot more open and we have made in roads with them.

There are no coincidences.
The study should be done on a wide spectrum and tragetting diffferent category of ages, like that you will have a better idea if does have an effect.
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Old 10-31-2008, 01:03 PM   #46
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One of you mentioned that you just give other people hints. that's the best method. To evoke their curosity. i speak about these things in a matter-of-factly manner and i don't give them all the information. In fact I tell them that maybe later I'll tell them more but first they have to do their "homework". And then they can't wait for more. So far it has been working well.
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Old 10-31-2008, 06:46 PM   #47
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[QUOTE=zorgon;57128]Thanks for the books...

Mind if I host a copy on my site?
It would be under this section...
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/44cosmic_wisdom/index.html

I would be happy if you make them viral - post away - Mike
thanks for tipoff.
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:42 PM   #48
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Here's a tip.

Awakening depends upon the willingness of the soul to evolve.
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:56 PM   #49
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It is hard to share the information I have read and heard here on Camelot and Avalon. As well as other forum, websites and videos. It is like watching X-files, Dr. Who, Torchwood, Matrix, Stargate, etc. I can see where the writers got their material. Just listening to the Whistleblower videos and you have a perfect source of material. All those TV shows and SciFi movies are "make believe". They are not true.

It not only takes an open mind. It also takes time. Time to read, think, and research for yourself. Most folks don't have the time. Most folks don't like to think. Most folks wouldn't know how to start researching for themselves.

There is a lack of curiosity in recent generations. The inclination to see beyond the obvious and ask "why".

We need to continue to open minds. Even one at a time.
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Old 11-04-2008, 09:17 PM   #50
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