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Old 10-17-2008, 08:27 PM   #1
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Question Is 2009 actually 2012 ???

I recently watched stewart swerdlow' video on google and something he said that perked my ears. He mentioned some king who in 1363 in honour of his coronation declared that the next year will be 1366.
I tried to find out who this king was and double check this info but haven't got any leads as yet.
But if we give Mr. Swerdlow the benefit of the doubt wouldn't next year be 2012 ???
And the rate at which the world elite are going all out currently visible in the Financial sector kinda adds to this supposition, "what's the big rush" ???
Any New Input on this King and the date mystery would be appreciated.
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Old 10-17-2008, 08:30 PM   #2
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In my mind it would put us backwards to about 2005
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Old 10-17-2008, 08:35 PM   #3
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I've no hard facts to contribute but Richard Hoagland said something interesting about fiddling with the date also. It's in the PC interview somewhere. I think he said that in his opinion, The Mayan 'treasures' that made there way back to Europe were salted away at the Vatican and someone there fiddled with the dates to acurately align european date/time with the Mayan calendar.

I think that would have been after the 14th century.

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Old 10-17-2008, 08:39 PM   #4
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In my mind it would put us backwards to about 2005
HOW?? BACKWARDS IT LOOKS FORWARD TO ME...
1364 became 1366
So
1999 became 2001
And
2009 becomes 2012

That's how he had put it, the reason why I want to be doubly sure.
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Old 10-17-2008, 08:43 PM   #5
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I've no hard facts to contribute but Richard Hoagland said something interesting about fiddling with the date also. It's in the PC interview somewhere. I think he said that in his opinion, The Mayan 'treasures' that made there way back to Europe were salted away at the Vatican and someone there fiddled with the dates to acurately align european date/time with the Mayan calendar.

I think that would have been after the 14th century.

norman.

Thanks,
So it could also be that while we are looking at the current calender and thinking it's four years from now whereas it could be next year
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Old 10-17-2008, 08:46 PM   #6
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If 1363 became 1366 then.. We are now in 2008, but this would really not be 2008, it would be 2005 because we are 3 years ahead because of the stupidity of that king..

It seems logical to me that we are then in 2005 (if the king would have not change anything.. ).
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Old 10-17-2008, 08:50 PM   #7
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yeah, the true calendar was changed to gregorian,
making it a bit off.

ill say

lets hope this is the case!! lol...............i think..........
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thanks for the post.
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Old 10-17-2008, 08:52 PM   #8
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In my mind it would put us backwards to about 2005
HOW?? BACKWARDS IT LOOKS FORWARD TO ME...
1364 became 1366
So
1999 became 2001
And
2009 becomes 2012

That's how he had put it, the reason why I want to be doubly sure.
Sorry Divinethread i am totally confused with this one.
1363 ( earlier post ) became 1366 =3
how does 1999 become 2001 surely its 2002 =3

If I put my watch forward an hour this week then surely next week I have to put it backwards an hour to keep in time with everything around me, if my thoughts are wrong with this, please explain.

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Old 10-17-2008, 08:53 PM   #9
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If 1363 became 1366 then.. We are now in 2008, but this would really not be 2008, it would be 2005 because we are 3 years ahead because of the stupidity of that king..

It seems logical to me that we are then in 2005 (if the king would have not change anything.. ).
Yes, if it did happened like the OP says, we are in 2005, not 2008. But I really doubt it. I also doubt about our supposedly calendar synchronization with the Mayan's.

There are a bunch of all sorts of information on this topic. Even one saying that the Mayan 2012 is our year 2024. We cannot put our trust into only one information.

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Old 10-17-2008, 09:02 PM   #10
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That's how he explained it???
I'm confused too
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Old 10-17-2008, 09:04 PM   #11
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I recently watched stewart swerdlow' video on google and something he said that perked my ears. He mentioned some king who in 1363 in honour of his coronation declared that the next year will be 1366.
I tried to find out who this king was and double check this info but haven't got any leads as yet.
But if we give Mr. Swerdlow the benefit of the doubt wouldn't next year be 2012 ???
And the rate at which the world elite are going all out currently visible in the Financial sector kinda adds to this supposition, "what's the big rush" ???
Any New Input on this King and the date mystery would be appreciated.
Many people think about 2012 as something negative. I believe (and I hope I'm right) it will be positive, but from now till then will first be bad, followed by worse to become terrible.
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Old 10-17-2008, 09:08 PM   #12
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Just to muddy the waters a little more, Calleman's evolution of consciousness (which Ian Lungold based his work on) puts the beginning of the final underworld at Feb 10th 2011, with 13 day and night cycles of 20 days each. Haven't worked it out exactly but I believe it puts the end of the evolution somewhere in November 2011.

http://www.mayanmajix.com/TZOLKIN/DT/DT.html
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Old 10-17-2008, 09:10 PM   #13
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yep, there it goes, my tiny brain just exploded...
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Old 10-17-2008, 09:18 PM   #14
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Whoaaa
What are you trying to do :wall1:
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Old 10-17-2008, 09:37 PM   #15
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Actually, the time is NOW it always has been and always will be right NOW, don't you see? this is essential understanding if you wish to gain wisdom. if you wish to change what NOW is like than start changing it, you can NOT wait for it to change, you must change it NOW.
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Old 10-17-2008, 09:38 PM   #16
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Im glad I caught this thread because I also saw Stewarts vid yesterday and thought the same thing, Im sure the king was mentioned, sorry I dont remember it though

There is nothing negative about 2012 as far as Im concerned, there is even talk about the sun being a black hole/portal as Nassim Harrimen says, perhaps we all go through it?We dont die anyway, only our bodies wear out
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Old 10-17-2008, 09:41 PM   #17
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Steven Hairfield says its even 2012 now if i remember well, check the interview.



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Interview with Steven Hairfield 2; Steven Hairfield; Donation video; Interview with Steven Hairfield 2


A Metaphysical Interpretation of the Bible

In the second part of our interview with Steven Hairfield, Regina continues to discuss Jesus' metaphysical roots and how Christianity was distorted.

Steven says that probably the most profound text that ever came out of that time was the Gospel of Thomas, which was deleted/omitted from the Bible, but has now been published.

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com...hairfield2.htm

some don't like to hear this cause the whole doom/gloom thrill and agenda falls apart then. sorry folks, we'll be just fine.

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Old 10-17-2008, 09:48 PM   #18
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Im glad I caught this thread because I also saw Stewarts vid yesterday and thought the same thing, Im sure the king was mentioned, sorry I dont remember it though

There is nothing negative about 2012 as far as Im concerned, there is even talk about the sun being a black hole/portal as Nassim Harrimen says, perhaps we all go through it?We dont die anyway, only our bodies wear out
Don't get me wrong I don't think 2012 is negative.
I don't feel, hope or believe -- I know it's going to be a positive change. I'm so excited I wish it was tomorrow.

And Nassim is a brilliant man, I haven't found a single hole in his theory as yet rather every day I find things that confirm his conclusions even more.
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:07 PM   #19
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It doesn't really matter does it? Nobody can even agree on what, if anything, is going to happen in 2012. That being the case, does it make any difference when 2012 actually is?

I'm with indakaz- 2012 is now. That way, when whatever will happen happens, you're already as prepared as you're ever going to be.

See? Simple. Oooh, new smileys!

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Old 10-17-2008, 10:18 PM   #20
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Yeah NOW sounds good
NOW ---- WON
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:24 PM   #21
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It doesn't really matter does it? Nobody can even agree on what, if anything, is going to happen in 2012. That being the case, does it make any difference when 2012 actually is?

I'm with indakaz- 2012 is now. That way, when whatever will happen happens, you're already as prepared as you're ever going to be.

See? Simple. Oooh, new smileys!

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Hehe, agreed. One has just to be aware that from NOW and for the next 10 years and so on, there is a 'window opening'.
But the time is NOW.

It's good you brought Calleman under the light cause he says that the end of the Mayan calendar is: October 28th 2011.
His theory makes sense to me.

See here:

http://www.calleman.com/content/arti...tioncycles.htm

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Old 10-17-2008, 10:29 PM   #22
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Time for bed methinks
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:36 PM   #23
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None of this matters we're already galactically aligned and have been for some time, exact years aren't important.
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:08 PM   #24
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Even if this is actually 2012 on the un-modified Gregorian Calendar it does not matter. The celestial reference points used to come up with the Mayan Calendar ending Dec.21 2012 where arrived at in the 20th century. Now if they had discovered how to decode the calendar back before the modification of the Gregorian, then we might have something to be worried about.
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:20 PM   #25
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Actually, the time is NOW it always has been and always will be right NOW, don't you see? this is essential understanding if you wish to gain wisdom. if you wish to change what NOW is like than start changing it, you can NOT wait for it to change, you must change it NOW.
Indeed. Totally agree. It is not a matter of when it will happen, it is happening. What matters is; Are we ready to make the shift? And I'm not talking about outside event.

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