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Old 03-16-2010, 03:42 PM   #1
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Question Jordanus Maximus and Why I Have Trouble Taking Project Camelot Seriously Anymore

Hi folks,

I know this will be hard for some people to stomach, and others will understand where I'm coming from. This year I learned that Jordan Maxwell is an Illuminati shill who's goal is like Michael Tsarion's and Zeitgiests, and many other "truth" movement people who are targeting people looking for the truth but then misdirecting them. Just about all of Jordan Maxwell's material and insights regarding religion is simply and demonstratively, and provably wrong. They come directly from the occultist Madam Blavatsky and IS the religion of the Illuminati elite which he, on the other hand, is also exposing. I'll say the reason why in a moment.

Watch these videos to see Jordan Maxwell's claims are false and misleading (and that's being kind):

Debunking Jordan Maxwell (revised edition)

William Cooper Debunks Jordan Maxwell

Zeitgeist Refuted Final Cut

Here's why in a nutshell Jordan Maxwell and people with similar message such as Michael Tsarion say what they do.

My Rebuttal to the People/Religion is the Cause of Problems and War in the World

I have not been very religious in my life but I know religion is certainly not the problem nor the cause, the problem is also not people in general nor any war like characteristics. People can be stupid for sure but also overall forgiving and peaceful.

What causes war is simply the manipulations of the Illuminati political and financial elite which uses war to divide people, maintain fear and control, and to destroy sovereignty which societies normally gravitate toward. In this game of war religion is sometimes used as a false cause but it is religion which is the Illuminati's biggest scapegoat. By setting up and blaming religion for the world's problems they take the eyes of society off of them--the real problem--and by blaming religion they create a false enemy for people to hate and which they themselves can then replace and "save" the world from. This is an old game at hand. For example when the Roman Empire couldn't control and conquer Christianity they took it over creating the roman catholic church.

The religion they will replace our current religions with will be one of their own construction—a "new age" religion which we have been peddled for some time now.

Here are two great videos illustrating this from Chris White perspective (I'm sourcing his videos a lot here because he articulates this topic so well):

The Trouble with the Truth Movement

Religious Wars, Fact or Fiction?

Here's some great info from a comment on YouTube:

moonlightbateman (September 09, 2009)
A recent comprehensive compilation of the history of human warfare, Encyclopedia of Wars by Charles Phillips and Alan Axelrod documents 1763 wars, of which 123 have been classified to involve a religious conflict. So, what atheists have considered to be "most" really amounts to less than 7% of all wars. It is interesting to note that 66 of these wars (more than 50%) involved Islam, and of the 17 wars the US has fought in, only 1 (the war on terror) had a religious component.

If you want to spend the time to understand this topic in much more detail check out this video. This should be totally new and eye opening for most people trained on public education history books. You'll see how war is manufactured like theater and sovereign nations destroyed and controlled:

1932, A True History of the United States

This also leads to my concern with Project Camelot. I feel that if they had done a modicum of fact checking on Jordan Maxwell (real name Russell Pine) and what he says they'd have simply dismissed him or maybe even exposed him. I'm now finding it difficult to listen to anything Project Camelot related, and I wish this wasn't so.

Best regards.

PS an update. I actually wrote this below in a later post, but felt that it was important enough to copy and paste up into this first post too, since it's addressing the important question of what about the "other" things Jordan talks about:

I think Jordan's commentary about the Fed and the ruling elite are pretty accurate actually, that's part of what makes Jordan a tricky fellow. He's exposing the elite so they can replace themselves with a solution (i.e. problem, reaction, solution formula), and also exposing their religion and their beliefs to the external world to get the world to buy into their religion instead of the current major religions. Essentially the "new age" religion which has much focus on the individual as their own god and savior--it's really a platform based on Luciferian ideals and they're very open about that, as someone stated above, and essentially occult in nature.

One of the tenants is to neutralize other religions by making them seem they are based on ancient wisdom, astrology, and marginalize those religions as war like, dogmatic, non-unique, radical, etc. Part of the problem is in order to foist their religion on people they use trickery and lies, and their motive is not a "free" people but a 100% enslaved people believing and doing what the Illuminati want them to. That is a major concern, because they are very successful as you'll see in the videos.

New Age Infiltration of the Truth Movement

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