Do Viruses even exist?

[Realview]

Yet another shocking subterfuge. The real possibility that the category known as viruses (cold, flu, hiv, etc...) don't even exist!

http://www.naturalnews.com/024754.html
http://www.neue-medizin.com/lanka2.htm
http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/mcinterviewsl.htm

[TranceAm]

I logged only in to thank you. Thank you so very very much..
My gut feeling kept warning me about this product...
(This goes beyond what goes on between me and stephen and could be of importance to us all..)

This solves the riddle of the killed micro biologists list and virus expert...
http://www.rense.com/general62/list.htm

They could blow the whistle on this.
More INTERESTING however, is what is stated on one of the links provided by you...

It shows part of the Culling with a reasonable explanation.
Also by attacking the males by using their vanity and uncertainty against them.

I was already waiting for the first murder with this 'medicine" by overdose...
But this is even worse.

Dr. Lanka: That's it. It was already known by 1965, definitely, that PCP is a fungus. And this was and is the most important AIDS-defining disease. If you look at who comes down with this disease, you see people who are using poppers. What are poppers? Nitrites. And check every dictionary in the bookstore, or the People's Medical Dictionary: what do nitrites do in the body? They oxidize the blood. That means the blood itself is not able to transport oxygen. So, of course, the first cells to suffer are cells in the lung.

Nitrites are transformed immediately into nitric oxide in the smallest capillars [capillaries?, F.C.] of the body. Nitric oxide is produced by the body in very low concentrations in order to control blood pressure, in order to control development. It has to be detoxified by the body immediately, because in higher concentrations it acts very aggressively, destroying everything. This is why the "eating cells" of the immune system, the macrophages, are releasing nitric oxide in high quantities in inflammation reactions: to destroy and digest the bacterial cells.

So if you take up nitrites regularly, or from time to time -- which means huge, excessive amounts of nitric oxide are produced -- it means you start the self-destroying process in your own body, especially in the lungs. You are destroying your lung tissue, and fungal infections are growing on this dead organic matter. Even so, immune functions are perfect, because these patients do suppress bacterial infections. All those 60 different kinds of lung disease we know by now, all caused by bacterial infections, do not appear because the immune functions are still well.

So we have a direct toxic effect, which may happen even when your detoxification system is not working on a cellular level, because you will suffer malnutrition. PCP can also happen in people who suffer extreme malnutrition, like we've had in Africa. This is the reason why PCP is not part of the AIDS definition in Africa, because we have it in the children who suffer starvation because the detoxification system of the cells is very weak in children. This is why, in the Middle Ages, when the wells had been poisoned by feces or meat from the civil wars or wars, it was the children who suffered, turning blue -- this was called "the disease of the blues" -- when they drank water, because there were a lot of nitrites and nitrates inside, produced by nitrifying bacteria when the wells had been poisoned, because the detoxification systems of children are very low. This is why the children starving heavily in Africa come down with PCP ever since.

I can foresee, here and now, that people regularly using Viagra will be coming down with KS in two to three years because Viagra acts by blocking the neutralization of nitric oxide. When you take Viagra, nitric oxide accumulates, relaxing the smooth muscles, that blood is flowing in, the penis is being erected, and our muscles are relaxed. Poppers act by the same mode, because the nitrites are transformed into nitric oxide in the smallest vessels, and so the smallest vessels become relaxed. But whereas poppers directly produce nitric oxide, Viagra works by preventing the neutralization of nitric oxide which comes into existence normally in the process of blood pressure regulation. It constantly persists at a very low level, but if it accumulates, you are in a very big danger.

So, if the blood has oxidized itself and the lining of the smallest vessels, the capillars (i.e. capillaries, F.C.] , is destroyed by nitric oxide, what's going to happen? Those cells will turn into cancer cells. There's a lack of oxygen, and the first cells to suffer this oxygen deficiency are the lining of the epithelium, the smallest vessels, where the nitrites are transformed into nitric oxide. And this is, as a matter of fact, the definition of Kaposi' Sarcoma: when the lining -- the interior of the smallest vessels -- develops into cancerous form, growing bigger and multiplying. This is hyperplasia, no a form of sarcoma, but a real form of cancer, and this is defined as KS. It can also come into existence even if you are not swallowing poppers, but when your cellular detoxification system is not working anymore.

http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/hiv/mcinterviewsl.htm

The Viagra phenomenon

Even though Viagra™ has only been available since 1998, it has already gained a world-wide reputation, with sales of around £1billion per year. Pfizer, the world's largest pharmaceutical company, has a certain amount of good luck to thank for this phenomenal success.

It was by chance that they discovered its ability to treat erectile dysfunction, having developed it to treat angina. In this electronic resource (e-source), we'll use the Viagra™ story to show how a medicine is designed, developed and roduced.

http://resources.schoolscience.co.uk...gra/index.html

Trying to find a link tying cancer occurances and viagra use... To no avail at this moment.

Again, Thanks.

[AndyH]

Excellent thread

[Magamud]

This is interesting stuff to say the least. Is there a tie in with fungi being the reason for sickness? I dont fully understand how viruses dont exist. Thanks for your help.

[KassandraLoves]

This is a GREAT thread! Thanks for sharing!!!

[capreycorn]

brilliant thread!

even outside communism we are all under rigorous control
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU12h6lWi9I

[TranceAm]

More Info:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...=&pagewanted=2

SODIUM NITRITE Used to preserve, color and flavor processed meats. 1969 - Scientists find sodium nitrite reacts with amines (chemicals in foods, saliva, drugs) to form nitrosamines (potent carcinogens). 1972 - Consumer groups petition Agriculture Department to ban unnecessary use of nitrites and establish a study committee. Committee calls for additional research. 1978 - Agriculture Department and F.D.A. prepare to ban nitrites based on M.I.T. study showing it is carcinogen. F.D.A. review suggests not so. Status: Nitrites still used but in smaller amounts in processed meats; meats available without nitrites are labeled as such.

If they knew this in 78, how can it be approved for over the counter in '98 in Viagra?

More info.. (This RAT hole goes deep.)

March 27, 1998
FDA APPROVES IMPOTENCE PILL, VIAGRA
The Food and Drug Administration today announced the approval of Viagra (sildenafil citrate), the first oral pill to treat impotence, a dysfunction that affects millions of men in the United States.

Unlike previously approved treatments for impotence, Viagra does not directly cause penile erections, but affects the response to sexual stimulation. The drug acts by enhancing the smooth muscle relaxant effects of nitric oxide, a chemical that is normally released in response to sexual stimulation. This smooth muscle relaxation allows increased blood flow into certain areas of the penis leading to an erection.

8<-.-.->8
The product was approved by FDA in less than six months after submission.
http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/ANSWERS/ANS00857.html

Approved in March 27, 1998 in less then 6 month after submission..
So that would be Oct 27, 1997 for submission.

Who was Head of the FDA at that moment:

President Tentatively Settles On a Choice to Head F.D.A.

By ROBERT PEAR
Published: May 19, 1998

The White House has tentatively chosen a cancer specialist who is vice president of the University of New Mexico to be head of the Food and Drug Administration, a position that has been vacant more than 14 months, Clinton Administration officials said today.

The prospective nominee, Dr. Jane E. Henney, was Deputy Commissioner of Food and Drugs under Dr. David A. Kessler from 1992 to 1994. Dr. Kessler headed the agency for six stormy years, until he left in February 1997 to become dean of the Yale School of Medicine.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation is checking Dr. Henney's background, and Administration officials said President Clinton hoped to announce her selection by the end of the month.

Dr. Henney, 51, has extensive experience in government and academia. As vice president for health sciences at the University of New Mexico, she supervises a medical school, a college of pharmacy and several teaching hospitals. She worked at the National Cancer Institute from 1976 to 1985, serving as deputy director for five years, and she was vice chancellor of the University of Kansas before working at the F.D.A. She is also president of the United States Pharmacopeia, a private nonprofit organization that sets legally enforceable standards for the purity and quality of medicines.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...56C0A96E958260

2 month after approval a cancer specialist as Head, before that 14 months with no one responsible. (Neat!)
Then:

November 24, 1998
Pfizer Updates Viagra Labeling

FDA and Pfizer Inc. are advising doctors about new warnings and information in the product labeling for Viagra (sildenafil) in response to postmarketing reports of serious adverse events. The new information augments the original drug labeling which warned against the concomitant use of Viagra and nitrates.

Revised in consultation with FDA, the new labeling is intended to help make sure that consumers and doctors are fully informed about the benefits and risks of using Viagra, know that consideration must be given to the cardiovascular status of patients prior to prescribing Viagra, and know how to safely use the drug.

As with all approved drugs, there have been postmarketing reports of important side effects with Viagra. These have been reviewed carefully by FDA since Viagra's approval in April l998. Although a causal relationship cannot be established from these reports, they are being mentioned in the labeling. FDA typically requires manufacturers to update their labeling with such information. It is important to note that the postmarketing reports involving Viagra constitute only a small fraction of the more than six million prescriptions written for this drug. FDA continues to believe Viagra is safe and effective if used according to the updated labeling.

http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/ANSWERS/ANS00926.html

But nothing about cancer, by a Cancer specialist over a chemical the FDA knew in 78 by a M.I.T. study caused cancer.... Hmmmmm
Can we already start to call it "slow" mass murder?

[777 The Great Work]

The Physical viruses of the world are a mirror of the worst plague known to the universe. OUR IGNORANCE

[Magamud]

Jane Henney After leaving the FDA she joined the board of directors of the pharmaceutical company Astrazeneca.

She was named senior vice president and provost for health affairs at the University of Cincinnati in 2003.


AstraZeneca products:
AstraZeneca specialises in prescription medicines to fight disease in the several therapeutic areas. Year-on sales information can be found through AstraZeneca Annual Reports.[17] The following is a list of key products found on the AstraZeneca website.[18] Generic drug names are given in brackets following the brand name.

This list is incomplete; you can help by expanding it.
Gastrointestinal
Entocort (budesonide)
Losec and Prilosec (omeprazole)
Nexium (esomeprazole) (purified stereoisomer of Losec)
Cardiovascular
Atacand (candesartan)
Crestor (rosuvastatin) (2003 launch)
Exanta (ximelagatran) (2004 launch; not approved in the United States)
Imdur (isosorbide mononitrate)
Inderal (propranolol)
Lexxel (enalapril/felodipine ER) (available only in the United States)
Logimax (felodipine/metoprolol ER)
Nif-Ten (nifedipine/atenolol)
Plendil (felodipine)
Ramace (ramipril)
Seloken XL and Toprol-XL (metoprolol) (#1 beta blocker by sales globally in 2004)
Tenoretic (atenolol/chlorthalidone)
Tenormin (atenolol)
Unimax (felodipine/ramipril)
Zestoretic (lisinopril/hydrochlorothiazide)
Zestril (lisinopril)
Respiratory and Inflammation
Accolate (zafirlukast)
Bambec (bambuterol)
Bricanyl (terbutaline)
Oxis (formoterol)
Pulmicort (budesonide)
Rhinocort (budesonide)
Symbicort (budesonide/formoterol)
Oncology
Arimidex (anastrozole)
Casodex (bicalutamide)
Faslodex (fulvestrant)
Iressa (gefitinib)
Nolvadex (tamoxifen)
Tomudex (raltitrexed)
Tamoxifen
Zoladex (goserelin
in development
Recentin (cediranib)
Zactima (vandetanib)
Neuroscience
Heminevrin (clomethiazole)
Mysoline (primidone) (handed over to Acorus Therapeutics Ltd. in July 2004)
Seroquel (quetiapine)
Vivalan (viloxazine)
Zomig (zolmitriptan)
Anaesthetics
Carbocaine (mepivacaine)
Citanest (prilocaine)
Diprivan (propofol)
EMLA (lidocaine/prilocaine)
Marcaine and Sensorcaine (bupivacaine)
Naropin (ropivacaine)
Xylocaine (lidocaine)
Xyloproct (lidocaine/hydrocortisone)
Infection
Apatef and Cefotan (cefotetan)
Paludrine (chloroquine)
Foscavir (foscarnet)
Lexinor (norfloxacin)
Merrem and Meronem (meropenem)

FDA and EPA are totally comprimised! Political officals go from office to big exec in Pharma that is if they play ball and sell out the human race.

[Realview]

Certain esoteric writings have stated that boiling/heating to kill microbes is not entirely accurate as this is only effective for microbes having a physical origin. Some microbes have an "ethereal / inter dimensional origin" and may effect the body because it too is really inter dimensional in nature.

[bilderburger w/cheese]

ill play devils advocate on this. i dont know who is right, but its important to be skeptical at all times (just remember what took place on october 14th).

if prions are documented to exist (the cause of BSE or 'mad cow disease'), then its entirely possible that viruses exist. both self-replicate; the only difference is that viruses have a protein capsule surrounding its DNA or RNA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Phage.jpg

that link above shows a micrograph of virus capsules invading a host cell. and they arent colored, as mentioned by lanka. id like to ask lanka how people would contract polio or ebola. furthermore, id like to hear him try to debunk the image provided.

ill pass on the HIV virus argument.


realview: traditional science says that a few viruses form whats known as a spore envelope around them. the spore is unaffected by boiling waters. to be 100% sure to destroy the virus, water must be boiled, allowed to cool, and reboiled several times so that the viruses emerge from the spore and then are killed. id have to review my information, but i believe an autoclave would kill anything, including the spore stage of the virus.

[bluestix]

Raymond Royal Rife