Election results!!! - Page 2

Kelphi · 11-05-2008, 01:39 AM

Look out, Obama the baby killer is on the rise.

PodWORLD · 11-05-2008, 01:41 AM

A considerate edit exchanger, cheers.

CNN just called Penn. Game over.

Below is a link of Clinton prez pardons as posted elsewhere by me. Gives an idea of what Dubya's job entails for the rest of the year.

2001 has Marc Rich, Pincus Green and the enigmatic Adolph Schwimmer. Also Fife Symington familiar to UFO obs and a lotta folks from Arkansas.

PodWORLD · 11-05-2008, 01:42 AM

Apologies link here

http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonp...#january202001

Frank Samuel · 11-05-2008, 01:44 AM

102 electoral votes for Obama
34 electoral votes for McCain

Ouch !!! Throw rocks at me why don't you !!!

Is going to be a long night of reflection....

Orion11 · 11-05-2008, 01:50 AM

woot!

jus thought id tell you all I voted for Obama. lol

PodWORLD · 11-05-2008, 01:59 AM

I'm glad for you Orion.

I hope we all remmember to temper any thoughts of retribution against perceived negative Obama posters. They said what they thought and felt which is cool.

Now we have to move on and forward together. Dems are going to have a lot of power from Jan and we're all in this together.

Frank Samuel · 11-05-2008, 02:32 AM

Okay I love country music , I know why the republicans lost. I'm listening to Hank Williams Jr. and my ears are hurting this guy is deaf tone, so much for positive frequencies through music. Ouch Hank you are hurting my ears !!!

Go Hank go, just don't sing you making me cry

Shellie · 11-05-2008, 02:43 AM

These aren't real election results, just projections based on the results of the precincts that have announced their results. Many of these states that are projected only have 20-30% of precincts reporting. If you open your browsers to several news sites you'll notice that.

PodWORLD · 11-05-2008, 02:50 AM

You're quite right Shellie. I posted the CNN link because it allows you to check by county also as well as compare to 2004.

If you tally guaranteed states blue and red (I don't like those terms either) Obama is going to win. As Ive said earlier whomever wins should be held fast against their campaign promises and there should be no recriminations.

Shellie · 11-05-2008, 02:53 AM

Wow.. McCain is leading Nebraska by SIXTEEN VOTES!!! (according to CNN)

Allie · 11-05-2008, 03:01 AM

Here in the UK it's 3am, but I'm still up, watching the US election results. We don't have anything like the campaigns and elections that you have - so it's quite intriguing

What we have here is 207 for Obama and 135 for McCain.

Those presenting the results are both English and American, with commentary from a mixed UK/USA sort of informal panel.

Of course, as our system doesn't work anything like the USA I haven't a clue what a College vote is, or how it all works. Still,they are saying that although they are speaking in terms of projections, they would be extend into reasonably accurate figures because there is far more caution when giving these out because of the last electoral problems.

Or something like that

It is 3am, after all

Frank Samuel · 11-05-2008, 03:05 AM

Hey Shellie here's your chance to make a projection .
What do you think , McCain or Obama.

Texas is not going to be the same.
If UT had 50,000 students with Obama is going to increase to 80,000 wow!!!
Watch out Austin !!!

Shellie · 11-05-2008, 03:09 AM

Hah hah, if you look at the county map, Austin (Travis county) is blue and everything around it is red.

But honestly, I think here in Austin Ron Paul won... :P

John aka#404 · 11-05-2008, 03:13 AM

what election ????

.

Shellie · 11-05-2008, 03:15 AM

Allie: Basically, the people do not vote in the election, the states do. The weight of each state is based on its population (winner takes all). The electoral college is the actual vote for president- individuals in the EC pledge to vote for the candidate who gets the simple majority vote in their state. If 50.1% of people vote for candidate A and 49.9% vote for candidate B, then candidate A gets the entire weighted vote of the state.

In light of the last few elections the system seems stupid because the winner isn't necessarily the one who wins the majority vote. But this is the way it is set up in order to preserve the rights of the states (which are responsible for preserving the rights of their residents). I personally think it is still stupid (especially the winner takes all part).

Frank Samuel · 11-05-2008, 03:21 AM

Spoken like a true republican good for you!!!

Hey there's still going to be 80,000 students in UT by 2010.

I love Texas even if it is a republican state, is all good

207 electoral votes for Obama
129 electoral votes for Mccain

PodWORLD · 11-05-2008, 03:22 AM

Again Shellie you make a good point.

When the numbers are in this time like 04 the popular vote will reflect the college vote. Colleges if abused can be like caucuses but in this case that wont be a problem.

I'm a UK citizen and believe UK and US should have a representational system.

I feel for McCain because he is wearing the brunt of the Bush presidency.

pilot · 11-05-2008, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shellie

Allie: Basically, the people do not vote in the election, the states do. The weight of each state is based on its population (winner takes all). The electoral college is the actual vote for president- individuals in the EC pledge to vote for the candidate who gets the simple majority vote in their state. If 50.1% of people vote for candidate A and 49.9% vote for candidate B, then candidate A gets the entire weighted vote of the state.

In light of the last few elections the system seems stupid because the winner isn't necessarily the one who wins the majority vote. But this is the way it is set up in order to preserve the rights of the states (which are responsible for preserving the rights of their residents). I personally think it is still stupid (especially the winner takes all part).

Agreed, the Electoral College is very stupid.

I do not look forward to going to work tomorrow to face all the glum rednecks if Obama wins-and it looks like he is, in a landslide no less.

He may just be the next illuminati torch bearer-but I do like Michelle Obama-if her spirit and integrity is just an act, it's a darn good one. I'd much rather she be prez...

Rocky_Shorz · 11-05-2008, 03:26 AM

I'm amazed how close the popular vote is running nationwide.

McCain is doing much better than I expected.

Allie · 11-05-2008, 03:30 AM

Thanks for that, Shellie

I'm still a bit confused but I'm wondering if its similar to the way we do it in the UK.

We are divided into counties (I would think the whole of the UK could fit into one of your states

). Each county - depending on its size - is likely to be sub-divided by north, south, east and west. Each will have parliamentary candidates - one for each of the political parties that puts up a candidate. (We do have some jokers, like one headed by Screaming Lord Sutch

)

People go out and vote for their candidate and it is the one who has the most votes in that particular constituency who wins his/her seat in parliament. The party that wins the most counties (seats) becomes the one who forms a government. Whoever gets the second highest number of seats becomes the opposition. It isn't particularly fair because it doesn't represent the national share of the vote. One party - the third (Liberal Democrats) has been calling for proportional representation for years as it is the fairest way, reflecting the national share of the vote.

If that doesn't make sense, well, it's 3.30am now

MAP · 11-05-2008, 03:34 AM

click---> http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoid=45787392

and---> http://www.hulu.com/watch/41829/satu...pen#s-p1-st-i1

PodWORLD · 11-05-2008, 03:38 AM

Bush won the popular vote vote by 3 mill in 04. Obama will win it by more as he will win the college vote by more. He's 1.6 mill ahead at the moment and we're still in the early projection phase ahead of the west coast states.

The intricacies of college votes apply to McCain as well as Obama.

In UK Allie we know you're right. I remember Lab and Con accusing Libs of being centrist. Pick a side they said while they both ended up picking the same one - the centre.

Shellie · 11-05-2008, 03:39 AM

Hey, who's the republican???

I voted for George Carlin, remember?

Shellie · 11-05-2008, 03:43 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayof...toral.college/

Allie · 11-05-2008, 03:44 AM

Ah - they always go for the LibDem's throats and yet there are actually some very good people in that party.

In the last general election I was flummoxed by the fact that on a pre-election program, the studio audience booed Tony Blair as he walked on; were indifferent to Michael Howard and cheered Charles Kennedy.

Blair won. Howard was next, Kennedy last. Bewildering, really.

If all the people that said a vote for the LibDem's is wasted actually voted for them........

11-05-2008, 01:39 AM	#26
Kelphi Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 107	Re: Election results!!! Look out, Obama the baby killer is on the rise.

11-05-2008, 01:41 AM	#27
PodWORLD Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 171	Re: Election results!!! A considerate edit exchanger, cheers. CNN just called Penn. Game over. Below is a link of Clinton prez pardons as posted elsewhere by me. Gives an idea of what Dubya's job entails for the rest of the year. 2001 has Marc Rich, Pincus Green and the enigmatic Adolph Schwimmer. Also Fife Symington familiar to UFO obs and a lotta folks from Arkansas.

11-05-2008, 01:42 AM	#28
PodWORLD Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 171	Re: Election results!!! Apologies link here http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonp...#january202001

11-05-2008, 01:44 AM	#29
Frank Samuel Project Avalon Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: i live in puerto rico Posts: 643	Re: Election results!!! 102 electoral votes for Obama 34 electoral votes for McCain Ouch !!! Throw rocks at me why don't you !!! Is going to be a long night of reflection....

11-05-2008, 01:50 AM	#30
Orion11 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,098	Re: Election results!!! woot! jus thought id tell you all I voted for Obama. lol

11-05-2008, 01:59 AM	#31
PodWORLD Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 171	Re: Election results!!! I'm glad for you Orion. I hope we all remmember to temper any thoughts of retribution against perceived negative Obama posters. They said what they thought and felt which is cool. Now we have to move on and forward together. Dems are going to have a lot of power from Jan and we're all in this together.

11-05-2008, 02:32 AM	#32
Frank Samuel Project Avalon Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: i live in puerto rico Posts: 643	Re: Election results!!! Okay I love country music , I know why the republicans lost. I'm listening to Hank Williams Jr. and my ears are hurting this guy is deaf tone, so much for positive frequencies through music. Ouch Hank you are hurting my ears !!! Go Hank go, just don't sing you making me cry

11-05-2008, 02:43 AM	#33
Shellie Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 267	Re: Election results!!! These aren't real election results, just projections based on the results of the precincts that have announced their results. Many of these states that are projected only have 20-30% of precincts reporting. If you open your browsers to several news sites you'll notice that.

11-05-2008, 02:50 AM	#34
PodWORLD Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 171	Re: Election results!!! You're quite right Shellie. I posted the CNN link because it allows you to check by county also as well as compare to 2004. If you tally guaranteed states blue and red (I don't like those terms either) Obama is going to win. As Ive said earlier whomever wins should be held fast against their campaign promises and there should be no recriminations.

11-05-2008, 02:53 AM	#35
Shellie Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 267	Re: Election results!!! Wow.. McCain is leading Nebraska by SIXTEEN VOTES!!! (according to CNN)

11-05-2008, 03:01 AM	#36
Allie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 161	Re: Election results!!! Here in the UK it's 3am, but I'm still up, watching the US election results. We don't have anything like the campaigns and elections that you have - so it's quite intriguing What we have here is 207 for Obama and 135 for McCain. Those presenting the results are both English and American, with commentary from a mixed UK/USA sort of informal panel. Of course, as our system doesn't work anything like the USA I haven't a clue what a College vote is, or how it all works. Still,they are saying that although they are speaking in terms of projections, they would be extend into reasonably accurate figures because there is far more caution when giving these out because of the last electoral problems. Or something like that It is 3am, after all

11-05-2008, 03:05 AM	#37
Frank Samuel Project Avalon Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: i live in puerto rico Posts: 643	Re: Election results!!! Hey Shellie here's your chance to make a projection . What do you think , McCain or Obama. Texas is not going to be the same. If UT had 50,000 students with Obama is going to increase to 80,000 wow!!! Watch out Austin !!!

11-05-2008, 03:09 AM	#38
Shellie Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 267	Re: Election results!!! Hah hah, if you look at the county map, Austin (Travis county) is blue and everything around it is red. But honestly, I think here in Austin Ron Paul won... :P Last edited by Shellie; 11-05-2008 at 03:17 AM.

11-05-2008, 03:13 AM	#39
John aka#404 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 339	Re: Election results!!! what election ???? .

11-05-2008, 03:15 AM	#40
Shellie Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 267	Re: Election results!!! Allie: Basically, the people do not vote in the election, the states do. The weight of each state is based on its population (winner takes all). The electoral college is the actual vote for president- individuals in the EC pledge to vote for the candidate who gets the simple majority vote in their state. If 50.1% of people vote for candidate A and 49.9% vote for candidate B, then candidate A gets the entire weighted vote of the state. In light of the last few elections the system seems stupid because the winner isn't necessarily the one who wins the majority vote. But this is the way it is set up in order to preserve the rights of the states (which are responsible for preserving the rights of their residents). I personally think it is still stupid (especially the winner takes all part). Last edited by Shellie; 11-05-2008 at 03:19 AM.

11-05-2008, 03:21 AM	#41
Frank Samuel Project Avalon Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: i live in puerto rico Posts: 643	Re: Election results!!! Spoken like a true republican good for you!!! Hey there's still going to be 80,000 students in UT by 2010. I love Texas even if it is a republican state, is all good 207 electoral votes for Obama 129 electoral votes for Mccain

11-05-2008, 03:22 AM	#42
PodWORLD Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 171	Re: Election results!!! Again Shellie you make a good point. When the numbers are in this time like 04 the popular vote will reflect the college vote. Colleges if abused can be like caucuses but in this case that wont be a problem. I'm a UK citizen and believe UK and US should have a representational system. I feel for McCain because he is wearing the brunt of the Bush presidency.

11-05-2008, 03:26 AM	#44
Rocky_Shorz Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,098	Re: Election results!!! I'm amazed how close the popular vote is running nationwide. McCain is doing much better than I expected.

11-05-2008, 03:30 AM	#45
Allie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 161	Re: Election results!!! Thanks for that, Shellie I'm still a bit confused but I'm wondering if its similar to the way we do it in the UK. We are divided into counties (I would think the whole of the UK could fit into one of your states ). Each county - depending on its size - is likely to be sub-divided by north, south, east and west. Each will have parliamentary candidates - one for each of the political parties that puts up a candidate. (We do have some jokers, like one headed by Screaming Lord Sutch ) People go out and vote for their candidate and it is the one who has the most votes in that particular constituency who wins his/her seat in parliament. The party that wins the most counties (seats) becomes the one who forms a government. Whoever gets the second highest number of seats becomes the opposition. It isn't particularly fair because it doesn't represent the national share of the vote. One party - the third (Liberal Democrats) has been calling for proportional representation for years as it is the fairest way, reflecting the national share of the vote. If that doesn't make sense, well, it's 3.30am now

11-05-2008, 03:34 AM	#46
MAP Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: click sing along with me =) ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn0bgdsCxXE Posts: 215	Re: Election results!!! click---> http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoid=45787392 and---> http://www.hulu.com/watch/41829/satu...pen#s-p1-st-i1

11-05-2008, 03:38 AM	#47
PodWORLD Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 171	Re: Election results!!! Bush won the popular vote vote by 3 mill in 04. Obama will win it by more as he will win the college vote by more. He's 1.6 mill ahead at the moment and we're still in the early projection phase ahead of the west coast states. The intricacies of college votes apply to McCain as well as Obama. In UK Allie we know you're right. I remember Lab and Con accusing Libs of being centrist. Pick a side they said while they both ended up picking the same one - the centre.

11-05-2008, 03:39 AM	#48
Shellie Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 267	Re: Election results!!! Hey, who's the republican??? I voted for George Carlin, remember?

11-05-2008, 03:43 AM	#49
Shellie Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 267	Re: Election results!!! http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayof...toral.college/

11-05-2008, 03:44 AM	#50
Allie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 161	Re: Election results!!! Ah - they always go for the LibDem's throats and yet there are actually some very good people in that party. In the last general election I was flummoxed by the fact that on a pre-election program, the studio audience booed Tony Blair as he walked on; were indifferent to Michael Howard and cheered Charles Kennedy. Blair won. Howard was next, Kennedy last. Bewildering, really. If all the people that said a vote for the LibDem's is wasted actually voted for them........