Bye Bye Whistleblowers.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by mudra

... one misses the Heart of things

What is the heart of things as related to this thread? In other words, what is the point?

[Myplanet2]

Quote:
Originally Posted by mudra
So long as one sees things as " good "or " bad " one misses the Heart of things .

Love always
mudra

Originally Posted by eXchanger

well mudra, i do respect most of your thoughts...
however, if i had NOT found
the good/and, the bad in my own heart,

explored the duality - that flows through everything

i would NEVER have truly sorted out,
and, found my "real" heart
which occurred very recently

so both aspects of your heart, are good aspects

as both are great teachers !!!

Our hearts, in one form or another, or no form at all, span all the dimensions. Duality is simply an artifact of 3D, and doesn't survive a shift of focus to other frequency ranges.

So you're both 100% right. It just depends on what focus you are talking about. Good and bad are products of mind. Love is the product of heart, and it doesn't consider good or bad. But if one is routing their path back to source through 3D, then the polarities DO need to be examined and merged/integrated/balanced into a view of unconditional love.

finding that balance is tantamount to gaining a foothold in 5D.

Isn't it exciting?

I'm gearing up for the next band we should be entering in a couple of weeks. Supposed to be a whopper. Last one wrung me out pretty good, but I don't miss what has washed away. My residual issues have been coming up like Wack-a-mole. The surface stuff I can now Scythe away with no effort, but the deeper issues which are primary lessons I came here for, are a little less cooperative yet.

Mean while, huge vistas continue to open up, and all I can do is marvel at where we are headed. What a joy to be incarnated here right now.

[mudra]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

Quote:
Originally Posted by mudra
So long as one sees things as " good "or " bad " one misses the Heart of things .

Love always
mudra

Our hearts, in one form or another, or no form at all, span all the dimensions. Duality is simply an artifact of 3D, and doesn't survive a shift of focus to other frequency ranges.

So you're both 100% right. It just depends on what focus you are talking about. Good and bad are products of mind. Love is the product of heart, and it doesn't consider good or bad. But if one is routing their path back to source through 3D, then the polarities DO need to be examined and merged/integrated/balanced into a view of unconditional love.

You understood me well Myplanet2 .
Exchanger I 'll let these words of Myplanet2 speak as my own to answer you.

Love always
mudra

[mudra]

Originally Posted by seashore

What is the heart of things as related to this thread? In other words, what is the point?

Well Seashore Heart is the soul 's foundation . When we are discussing matters pertaining to life we should not forget that soul and heart is the essence of all things .
We otherwise can get easily lost in the field of our mind and thoughts only .
I consider life as a learning lab for the soul.

Love always
mudra

[THE eXchanger]

xxx

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

if you stay only in your own heart -

i do not think this was the message...the words "own" and "only" somewhat manipulate the message....

[mudra]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

there isn't anyone who crosses your path,
that can NOT teach you something

I am following you Exchanger.
Life is a great school to the soul.
I'll copy here what I wrote on my new thread " the free soul "

Because it brings so many people together at the same time the opportunity to come in contact with a variety of viewpoints is an interesting experience in it's own.
If you look sincerely back on your life you 'll see that the lessons you learned came both from " good " things and " bad" things.
So all has value in the realm of manifestations. I believe that all of us saw seeds .
When a black seed or a white one falls into a heart it finds fertile soil to grow independant of it's color. So really we are all pupils and teachers at the same time.

Love always
mudra

[mu2143]

I'm not responding on the Whistleblowers, but the post from Karen

I found out without from an out side source that Drunvalo Melchizedek is Satanic, by reading one of his Books.
Your spirit will learn how to see it by reflecting this back to you, by putting you in the right directions to recognize it.

This also warning not to attack to people who are doing evil, because then your playing there game. Real Good does not attack

This how the play it, by being (good) and evil. But there is difference between real good and what is good in your own eyes.
It already speaks for it self.

And then you ask the question what is the difference?
You have allready wittnessed many version of so called Good in your one eyes or evil.

They are being attacked by them without trying to stop them (deffending) and apear as being helpless when there not.(Your already no that there not helpless)
Justifying attacking the evil party is as Attacking some one by calling it a defence and justified is stil evil.(9/11)

Btw I did found this web site just a moment ago about Drunvalo Melchizedek.
http://www.whale.to/b/melchizedek_h.html

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And this does reflect to a response to attack ON any Whistleblowers.

Remember this, what you write/think is reflecting back to you. Creating
that reallity you do not want, if you can not handel the information then you are part of the
problem not the solutions.
Stop attacking the people who speak out, because of what there saying.

Talking about that we are one and attacking some one is NOT the same stop preteding!

In other words you see Fear you are Fear not speaker!!!!!!Ignoring the warning is not a good thing.
By listening to lovely music closing your eyes and waiting for a nice bright light. Just like the last civilization 4000 Years Ago.

[THE eXchanger]

xxx

[sammytray]

"In other words you see Fear you are Fear not speaker!!!!!!Ignoring the warning is not a good thing.
By listening to lovely music closing your eyes and waiting for a nice bright light. Just like the last civilization 4000 Years Ago."

I like this
__________________

[tone3jaguar]

[quote]

Originally Posted by mu2143

I found out without from an out side source that Drunvalo Melchizedek is Satanic, by reading one of his Books.

Dude, WTF?

[sammytray]

[quote=tone3jaguar;164226]

Dude, WTF?

who the hell is satan??

[Tango]

Karen,

I'm being respectful here; so don't twist any of My words here people.

Please, direct ME to just One negative statement made about

Bill Ryan... The reason I ask is because my eyes don't lie and I haven't

seen anything said about Bill that was Not kind...

I'm NOT a stupid man and I've been on this site without logging in...

If, I've done it... I bet Kerry, may be smart enough to read PA w/o

signing in... I know, that, your smart enough, to come on site without

signing in. And, if you know how to do that and I know how to do that

Welll, you know the rest, Karen.

Originally Posted by Karen

franciejones,

You jump to conclusions which are not true. Kerry rarely logs into the forum - only when I report something to her that she must deal with, and her last log in as anyone can see in her profile (on the left) was June 30 at 6:29 am.

Bill Ryan's last log in was Dec 8, 2008 just shortly after he agreed to run the forum while Kerry ran Camelot. The only answer I got from Bill on that was that the Projects have whisked him off in directions and intensities he never dreamed of. And I'm guessing the new girlfriend has needed some attention.

So perhaps they know they are being attacked on their own forum because other people are reporting that to them - sending them copies?

If, as you said in another post, you're sorry for the money you sent them, why are you spending your life energy here. Every minute of my life is much more precious to me than any amount of money.

[Karen]

Originally Posted by Tango

Karen,
I'm being respectful here; so don't twist any of My words here people.
1) Please, direct ME to just One negative statement made about
Bill Ryan... The reason I ask is because my eyes don't lie and I haven't
seen anything said about Bill that was Not kind...
2) I'm NOT a stupid man and I've been on this site without logging in...
If, I've done it... I bet Kerry, may be smart enough to read PA w/o
signing in... I know, that, your smart enough, to come on site without
signing in. And, if you know how to do that and I know how to do that
Welll, you know the rest, Karen.

Tango, I added numbers to your post. It appears to me you misunderstand. In answer to #1 I didn't say Bill and Kerry were being attacked on their own forum, franciejones said that in post #2 of this thread. I did hear mention of that on one of their whistleblower radio shows, but I don't remember the exact words they used or which one of them said what. Seems it was Kerry that brought it up. Maybe Kerry considers the negative comments made about her to be about both of them as a team. People do say Bill and Kerry this and that a lot.

Oh, and I do recall some negative things said about Bill on this forum some time ago. More recently I remember people saying he doesn't care because he doesn't show up here. But finding these posts? I can do a pretty wicked search if I can remember the correct word to use ... but not sure I can in this case. Maybe if I sleep on it.

#2 Every time I come to the forum I am logged in. I don't do anything - I'm just logged in. I don't even know why I wouldn't log in or why Kerry and Bill wouldn't log in. They wanna sneak around so people don't see they are here???? Why??? That doesn't mesh with my experience on the forum or in the back room with them. The only time I wasn't logged in was when I was trying to access the forum from someone else's computer - oh ya, and a long time ago when I had to replace my computer. From my experience, they are NOT looking in here, but I suppose I could be wrong. Gawd if you only knew what I have to go through when they do need to be contacted about something

[Metaphor]

Ive been returnig to this thread a few times now hopeful that it was back on topic. I feel the promising direction it was going is gone. Could you guys please get over this or take it "backstage" in PM form?

Respectfully
/Meta

[mu2143]

Satan is just another name for lucifer refuring him to beining evil with is the reversed meaning for live!!!

Religion has twisted evering and helliwood has created and twisted the meaning of it.

Remember this symbol! (it is bad!)
http://www.cleffpublishing.com/images/yinyang.jpg

remember that all of are so called leader are satanic and there using specific dates to do the rituals, Like 9/11. Wars are a ritual for them like a blood sacrifice.

[Metaphor]

Originally Posted by mu2143

Remember this symbol! (it is bad!)
http://www.cleffpublishing.com/images/yinyang.jpg

Could you ellaborate that a little bit?

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by mu2143

Btw I did found this web site just a moment ago about Drunvalo Melchizedek.
http://www.whale.to/b/melchizedek_h.html

Did you think that the material reference on that link had any credibility ?

I am not judging your intuition - like if you have a bad feeling about the guy or his books that is great, go with the intuition, but in order to actually state (as if it were a proven fact) that the guy is satanic it would probably be better to have some solid information to base that on.

Otherwise its just your opinion, which I respect, but may not agree with.

A..

[mu2143]

Don't ask me, but ask your self!!
I descern it my self by reading one of his books, just like the law of one.
Do it your self, because you have to understand it your self.

I explain all of things yet you wil not see it even if I prove it to you the things! you wanted to see. (The outside world)

It is like explaining to some one who believes the system that there are slaves of it they just go in to denial and there many levels of denial.

I'm walking on my own pad and if I find any thing interresting to post then I post it.
You do what you want to do with the information. I do not have to prove anything to any one. You descern it your self!!!

I'm not the babysitter

[tone3jaguar]

Satan is a made up figure head of the dark forces just like Santa is a made up figure head of Christmas presents. There is no figure head at the top when it comes to the Dark forces. They all want to be the the head retard and they actually fight amongst themselves as much or more than they mess with us.

Sounds like Sounthern Babtist logic to me.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by mu2143

...Btw I did found this web site just a moment ago about Drunvalo Melchizedek.
http://www.whale.to/b/melchizedek_h.html ...

Let's establish the author of the article linked above.

Is it Don Croft?

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by mu2143

Satan is just another name for lucifer refuring him to beining evil with is the reversed meaning for live!!!

Religion has twisted evering and helliwood has created and twisted the meaning of it.

Remember this symbol! (it is bad!)
http://www.cleffpublishing.com/images/yinyang.jpg

remember that all of are so called leader are satanic and there using specific dates to do the rituals, Like 9/11. Wars are a ritual for them like a blood sacrifice.

SHHH.....you're going to get ODM's attention.

[mudra]

Despite all appearances, no one is really evil. They are led astray by ignorance. If you ponder this truth always you will offer more light, rather then blame and condemnation.
You, no less than all beings have Buddha Nature within. Your essential Mind is pure. Therefore, when defilements cause you to stumble and fall, let not remose nor dark foreboding cast you down. Be of good cheer and with this understanding, summon strength and walk on.
Faith is like a lamp and wisdom makes the flame burn bright. Carry this lamp always and in good time the darkness will yield and you will abide in the Light.

Dhammavadaka

Love always
mudra

[Tango]

Karen,

YOU keep grouping K & B together... NO, I'm not misunderstanding anything.
Bill, is responsible for 'his' actions... Kerry, is responsible for 'her' actions.
Why, should Bill, catch flak for Kerry's actions. THAT is MY point. in the last
60 days No negative statement has been made "about" Bill... Or his actions;
He didn't grab some poor sap's hand and drag them ON stage for attention.
In so saying, they [B&K] should not be grouped. I didn't see Bill, ever
waving his arms during the interview; touching a guest in such a manner,
making faces at the camera while the guest tried to answers a question.
Hell, I didn't get to see much of Bill. I would have liked to... Correct me
if I'm wrong here; the statement " No One Controls Kerry " made by Bill,
about a year and a half ago means " Kerry, is responsible for her own
actions." Bill, should stop covering her butt [that is just my opinion].

Since YOU brought her up... franciejones; has every right to Vent... Some
members just left... I vented on three threads and finally, walked it off...
franciejones, is just being used as a Scapegoat, in this case. Is it any
surprise that Peterson, hasn't signed off on his interview. Not to me...

I tried to warn you mods that the site was going to go down; and got
back talk. I just kept quiet when I saw my warning was doubted...

I understand the control of the site is Not yours... I looked into it, in my
own way. And, 'I do' know what you have to go thru when something has
to be delt with. And, I'm Sorry; Kerry is difficult to deal with; and I'll just
leave it there. Cause, I know a lot more than You think... That is why
I don't like the statement " They " [Over N' out].

With respect,


Tango

Originally Posted by Karen

Tango, I added numbers to your post. It appears to me you misunderstand. In answer to #1 I didn't say Bill and Kerry were being attacked on their own forum, franciejones said that in post #2 of this thread. I did hear mention of that on one of their whistleblower radio shows, but I don't remember the exact words they used or which one of them said what. Seems it was Kerry that brought it up. Maybe Kerry considers the negative comments made about her to be about both of them as a team. People do say Bill and Kerry this and that a lot.

Oh, and I do recall some negative things said about Bill on this forum some time ago. More recently I remember people saying he doesn't care because he doesn't show up here. But finding these posts? I can do a pretty wicked search if I can remember the correct word to use ... but not sure I can in this case. Maybe if I sleep on it.

#2 Every time I come to the forum I am logged in. I don't do anything - I'm just logged in. I don't even know why I wouldn't log in or why Kerry and Bill wouldn't log in. They wanna sneak around so people don't see they are here???? Why??? That doesn't mesh with my experience on the forum or in the back room with them. The only time I wasn't logged in was when I was trying to access the forum from someone else's computer - oh ya, and a long time ago when I had to replace my computer. From my experience, they are NOT looking in here, but I suppose I could be wrong. Gawd if you only knew what I have to go through when they do need to be contacted about something

[iainl140285]

Well, I havent seen much in the way so far on this thread to actually dis credit the 'whistle blowers', so to that end, please read the link:

You can start about half way down. (It covers several of PC whistle blowers.

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2...liensufos.html

Just something to think about