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Old 11-08-2009, 09:59 PM   #1
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Default Scientific analysis suggests Billy Meier UFO photos may be genuine

Good old Billy...

Mmm food for thought...perhaps the Scrolls are for real as well...follow the yellow brick road....

The UFO photographs surveyed were taken on March 26, 1981 and sometime in 1984 by Billy Meier in Switzerland. This survey has been authorized by Michael Horn, Billy Meier's United States associate to determine the authenticity of these photographs. The survey conducted between October 22, 2009 and November 6, 2009 included 100 hours of laboratory time and over 100 photographic enhancements using APEP (Advanced Photographic Extraction Process) regarded by many as one of the world's leading imaging process. The UFO photographs below will have a caption with our opinion accompanied by Scientific evidence leading to conclusions drawn from our 25 years of combined UFO photographic expertise.

An original copy of the Billy Meier Photograph taken March 26, 1981 is seen below. The photography has not been retouched or manipulated in any detectable way and the conclusion of the sciencific team is that it is authentic in every aspect. The craft measures approximately 48 feet in diameter and is 25 feet tall, it's composition is unknown and it is in no way is suspended by any device detectable. There is no pixel manipulation or overlay created by any artificial means, the craft is not supported by any means known.

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Old 11-08-2009, 10:42 PM   #2
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Thanks for this- my ex met Billy (went to FIGU) years ago and spoke with many of his inner group and believes his story. I spent years reading the Meier material but it's clear that some of his pics were hoaxes -Asket, ray gun etc;
and if left me wondering......
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Old 11-08-2009, 11:08 PM   #3
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I think Billy's stories are for the most part true. IMO alot of them "hold" back information.

I just hate the bickering between the different people. I deffinately believe in Alex Collier too..........I dont think Billy made the accusations that went in his book.
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Old 11-24-2009, 03:50 AM   #4
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The Billy Meier story is likely a hoax.

The Billy Meier case: more conclusive "smoking gun" proof of deception.
http://thebiggestsecret.online.fr/uf...moking_gun.htm
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Old 11-24-2009, 04:45 AM   #5
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I don't wish to offend anybody but I feel that the collective energy that is wasted arguing over whether this person is telling the truth, or that person is telling lies, would be better spent if it were directed at accepting that . . .

(1) UFOs do exist.
(2) They are controlled by intelligent beings.
(3) They have been visiting Earth since before humanity existed.
(4) If they had a mind to, humans could have been wiped out long ago.
(5) We should be concentrating on the positive aspect - not the negative.
(6) Wake up and realize that we are the creators of our own future.
(7) Positive thought creates positive energies that will enrich our lives.
(8) Negative thoughts create negative energies which will destroy us.
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Old 11-24-2009, 04:55 AM   #6
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The Billy Meier story is likely a hoax.

The Billy Meier case: more conclusive "smoking gun" proof of deception.
http://thebiggestsecret.online.fr/uf...moking_gun.htm

Kathy I have spent 10 years researching this and others here have spent much longer.

The case is genuine. End of story.

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Old 11-24-2009, 05:28 AM   #7
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Preliminary Billy Meier research links for beginners;

Billy Meier Contact Notes 1/158 (essential!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixTW6O4vBwM

The Pleiadian Mission - Billy Meier UFO Case - Pt. 1 of 12 (essential! offworld and time travel photos)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsp6lF4SCKI

Pleaidian Beamships : Sounds and Photos (listen)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpoBofMj-DY

Pleiadian Beamships: Sounds and Photos 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0MmofAWA9o

UFO of Semjase making maneuvers for Billy Meier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFpgD330ql0

1985 - Beamship - The Movie Footage PART 1 of 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWqHo8ZMwtM

1986 - The Meier Chronicles PART 1 of 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKqxu86_n_k

UFO Contactee and Prophet Eduard Albert Meier 1 of 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg-tJX1R_sE

1983 - Lee Elders with Bill Jenkins - Billy Meier UFO Case PART 1 of 13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPPsx76xJgo

UFO - Billy Meier - Wedding Cake Beam Ship
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSacjuSL2JA

Billy Meier - The Henoch Prophecies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K2TnAPvBY8

Randy Winters Interview - The Pleiadians - Billy Meier [1/5]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AKQAMTnixg

Talmud of Jmmanuel - Wendelle Stevens (1 of 4) - PART 1 of 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJuciik_OYk
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:32 AM   #8
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Thanks Lumi...great links I'll have a good read later...

further reading of Billy's findings here...

A really fantastic read for those who are interested in Billy Meier.

Discovery of the 'Talmud of Jmmanuel'

The Talmud of Jmmanuel are the original teachings of Esu (Jesus) Immanuel of 2000 years ago, as recorded by Esu Immanuel's disciple, scribe and closest friend, Judas Iscariot, one of the twelve disciples. These writings were preserved by Esu's son Joseph, who carried them back from his home in India at Esu's death, and placed them in the Tomb of Aramathea in Jerusalem, where Esu had lain at the time of his crucifixion.

In 1963 Eduard Albert (Billy) Meier and his friend ex-Greek-Orthodox priest, Isa Rashid, recovered these four scrolls, where they had been buried for 2000 years. Rashid translated the first scroll of 36 chapters from Aramaic into the German language of Meier. Rashid's work was interrupted when Israeli authorities discovered his work in Jerusalem. Rashid fled with the scrolls to a Lebanese refugee camp, but the Israeli Military bombed the camp, forcing him to flee to Baghdad. Because the scrolls were either destroyed in the bombing or they fell into Israeli hands,the remaining three were never translated, and their message was lost to the modern world.

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http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_d...76c2a9c7d81f5e

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Old 11-24-2009, 10:45 AM   #9
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I too have been researching the Meier case for a few years now and also agree that it is genuine. However I do also think there has been false evidence put forward and not all info out of figu is 'Alien' in origin.

As brinty pointed out, it kinda doesnt matter so much anyway.

In regards to the post and link about billy being a hoax, that page is dated 2006. Alot has happened and been discovered since then, its old dead info.

I highly recommend the book 'Light years' by gary kinder for anyone interested in the case.
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Old 11-24-2009, 12:07 PM   #10
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Thanks Lumi...great links I'll have a good read later...

further reading of Billy's findings here...

A really fantastic read for those who are interested in Billy Meier.

Discovery of the 'Talmud of Jmmanuel'

The Talmud of Jmmanuel are the original teachings of Esu (Jesus) Immanuel of 2000 years ago, as recorded by Esu Immanuel's disciple, scribe and closest friend, Judas Iscariot, one of the twelve disciples. These writings were preserved by Esu's son Joseph, who carried them back from his home in India at Esu's death, and placed them in the Tomb of Aramathea in Jerusalem, where Esu had lain at the time of his crucifixion.

In 1963 Eduard Albert (Billy) Meier and his friend ex-Greek-Orthodox priest, Isa Rashid, recovered these four scrolls, where they had been buried for 2000 years. Rashid translated the first scroll of 36 chapters from Aramaic into the German language of Meier. Rashid's work was interrupted when Israeli authorities discovered his work in Jerusalem. Rashid fled with the scrolls to a Lebanese refugee camp, but the Israeli Military bombed the camp, forcing him to flee to Baghdad. Because the scrolls were either destroyed in the bombing or they fell into Israeli hands,the remaining three were never translated, and their message was lost to the modern world.

further reading...
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_d...76c2a9c7d81f5e

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I uploaded the Talmud Jmmanuel to the Avalon Ark library but seeing it is still down.. here is an online version for any of you who are interested to download;
http://www.scribd.com/doc/12852444/T...n-Christianity

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Old 11-24-2009, 12:17 PM   #11
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Of all the Meier books these two are the most priceless gems to me;



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Old 11-30-2009, 03:30 PM   #12
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"The only thing limiting the progress of the Earth Human, is the Earth Human himself"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qviy0JxYhEA

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Old 11-30-2009, 03:49 PM   #13
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Extraterrestrial Experiences of Billy Meier (1of10)

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Old 12-01-2009, 12:15 AM   #14
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I don't wish to offend anybody but I feel that the collective energy that is wasted arguing over whether this person is telling the truth, or that person is telling lies, would be better spent if it were directed at accepting that . . .

(1) UFOs do exist.
(2) They are controlled by intelligent beings.
(3) They have been visiting Earth since before humanity existed.
(4) If they had a mind to, humans could have been wiped out long ago.
(5) We should be concentrating on the positive aspect - not the negative.
(6) Wake up and realize that we are the creators of our own future.
(7) Positive thought creates positive energies that will enrich our lives.
(8) Negative thoughts create negative energies which will destroy us.
Amen sir, AMEN!

Whether they are real or not doesn't alter WHAT IS! The facts are on the moon anyway... you can't PROVE anything! Truth is in the experience, so goes Plato's Allegory of the Cave... any communication of experience immediately and inherently fictionalizes it... hence why the name of God cannot be spoken - doing so attempt to fictionalize something beyond definition, and bind something infinite. Hence also why the truth only exists within! Everything without is an illusion/fiction.

(referenced from Brandon Adams, Creditors in Commerce)

Reminds me of the song from U2 - Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For. He searched for, found and experienced everything he could experience in the physical world... yet what he was looking for could not be found outside of himself. Kudos Bono
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Old 12-01-2009, 02:18 AM   #15
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...
(1) UFOs do exist.
(2) They are controlled by intelligent beings.
(3) They have been visiting Earth since before humanity existed.
(4) If they had a mind to, humans could have been wiped out long ago.
(5) We should be concentrating on the positive aspect - not the negative.
(6) Wake up and realize that we are the creators of our own future.
(7) Positive thought creates positive energies that will enrich our lives.
(8) Negative thoughts create negative energies which will destroy us.
Hello Brinty . You are pointing out important things here. When we get too far into intellectualizing scenarios we often loose perspective. What you give us here is perspective. I believe any fringe information should be looked into the perspective of a solid true foundation, whatever the angular stone is.

I often look at the world in the light of the Universal Laws of Consciousness and it always amazed me how deep these laws are acting into our becoming. I often use freewill as perspective to make up my mind about a person, or a culture. It is very arbitrary, but it always served me well to avoid getting confused into too many reference points especially when I deal with fringe information that mixed up emotion, judgment, personal ethic, etc...

I would like to add:
#9. We are progressively entering into a Greater Community of the Galaxy.
#10. The final step of our consciousness evolution is at the door, we are about to see a New Human to born from the heart of the old. It will not be spectacular, but rather soft and subtle.

Sorry for the ride out of the path.

My personal research about Billy Meir is that this guy is manipulated. His name might be used also for many uses he personally might not be aware of. A lot of hoaxes are around the guy, it might be because the initial story is indeed TRUE. It is often like this when an amazing story hits the crowd. It is how our "manipulators" works.

"They" are only influential, not controlling. In the end, we have the power to make choice even if they are trying to influence it a lot.

That's it, I'm still out of the path.

Namaste, Steven

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Old 12-01-2009, 02:39 AM   #16
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I would like to add:
#9. We are progressively entering into a Greater Community of the Galaxy.
#10. The final step of our consciousness evolution is at the door, we are about to see a New Human to born from the heart of the old. It will not be spectacular, but rather soft and subtle.

Sorry for the ride out of the path.

Namaste, Steven
No need to be sorry Steven - honesty and common sense (even if it is sometimes un-common) is always welcome.

Just think - all our pathways will be converging in the not so distant future - and will continue as pathways in another dimension.
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Old 12-01-2009, 10:45 AM   #17
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Hi Brinty thanks for popping....

I keep saying simple is at times is the best solution...and your right why do we complicate things with debate...Don't get me wrong I love healthy debate as long as we can stay within the guidelines of mature approach...

You and Steven hit the nail on the head here...

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I don't wish to offend anybody but I feel that the collective energy that is wasted arguing over whether this person is telling the truth, or that person is telling lies, would be better spent if it were directed at accepting that . . .

(1) UFOs do exist.
(2) They are controlled by intelligent beings.
(3) They have been visiting Earth since before humanity existed.
(4) If they had a mind to, humans could have been wiped out long ago.
(5) We should be concentrating on the positive aspect - not the negative.
(6) Wake up and realize that we are the creators of our own future.
(7) Positive thought creates positive energies that will enrich our lives.
(8) Negative thoughts create negative energies which will destroy us.
Added by Steven...
(9) We are progressively entering into a Greater Community of the Galaxy.
(10) The final step of our consciousness evolution is at the door, we are about to see a New Human to born from the heart of the old. It will not be spectacular, but rather soft and subtle.
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Old 12-01-2009, 05:03 PM   #18
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I absolutely believe the photos and videos are real.

However, a more important question is, what is the agenda of the Semjase Pleiadians? And why should we believe anything they say?

All they told Billy Meier was a bunch of fear mongering stuff. And nothing about the true history of the human race on Earth.

This is why I gravitate towards the Amenti teachings--it tells everything about human history in excruciating detail. And the Semjases are not on the "friends" list.
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Old 12-01-2009, 05:32 PM   #19
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I have no doubt that Billy Meier's stories are true but this post was concerning the photographs of ufo, i do feel and this is my opinion only that the photos do not feel right to me.
I must admit i have never seen a circular craft like this the ones i have seen are cigar shaped back in the 60's and in the 80's the black triangular shape ones and we have cleared that one up by now knowing they were military.
The one my sister saw in the middle 50's was of a circular shape and similar to these Billy Meier ones lacking the nodules which are on those of Billy's this for me is where i feel it looks a little fake.
Hey but who i am i! what do i know so perhaps they are who knows just going with my intuition on this one.
This was the one that almost landed in a street in the 50's very near where i lived as a kid and my sister was a witness to this one along with her friends.

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http://www.ufocasebook.com/bexleyheath1955.html
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Old 12-02-2009, 02:07 AM   #20
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Well here is the exact same beamship that Billy Meier made famous captured in South Africa by someone completly unrelated!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs5rcvQa7fA
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Old 12-02-2009, 09:55 AM   #21
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Good find Lumi...

Makes you laugh doesn't it....

All these thousands and thousands of videos now available and they still manage to suppress the knowledge from the masses...and if it does seep out, riducule is the name of the game...

I wonder what Humanity needs as a wake up call??

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Old 12-02-2009, 07:33 PM   #22
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I absolutely believe the photos and videos are real.

However, a more important question is, what is the agenda of the Semjase Pleiadians? And why should we believe anything they say?

All they told Billy Meier was a bunch of fear mongering stuff. And nothing about the true history of the human race on Earth.

This is why I gravitate towards the Amenti teachings--it tells everything about human history in excruciating detail. And the Semjases are not on the "friends" list.
How do you know the Amenti account of human history is accurate, how can you be sure? imo we can not be 100% sure of any material that is being published now. So much disinfo to confuse & distract the masses.
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How do you know the Amenti account of human history is accurate, how can you be sure? imo we can not be 100% sure of any material that is being published now. So much disinfo to confuse & distract the masses.
We cannot be certain, of course, but at least there is a lot of detail in this info. I'm tired of being given snippets of patronizing stories. It is bad enough that are incarnated knowing nothing...and then we are told this ridiculous account of our origins. Then you just have to go by gut--what feels right.
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We cannot be certain, of course, but at least there is a lot of detail in this info. I'm tired of being given snippets of patronizing stories. It is bad enough that are incarnated knowing nothing...and then we are told this ridiculous account of our origins. Then you just have to go by gut--what feels right.
I totally agree with you.....problem seems to be, everyone's gut feeling is telling something different than the next guy. So its hard to get a strong consensus on something.
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:22 AM   #25
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Best Greetings in Peace to All,

Thank You Viking, for providing this Thread in the Forum.

Sarahmay,

I address some of your concerns here, where you state: [ "I'm tired of being given snippets of patronizing stories. It is bad enough that are incarnated knowing nothing...and then we are told this ridiculous account of our origins." ]

Each Lifetime is like a level in a grand "school-of-Life" with literally Millions of levels. It takes the Human Spirit around 60- to 80-Billion years to complete all the levels in Material Reincarnations. If we were to hold all previous lessons learned in our previous Lives in our Consciousness, if we knew all which our Spirit knows, we could not make any progress in our Spiritual Evolution. The Spirit knows only Truth, which if we had conscious access to only Truth, then we could not make the mistakes in the Lives, which are the lessons and reasons for the Life -- that we may learn to correct the mistakes, then gain deeper understandings therefrom.

As to "snippets of patronizing stories," I don't know which "snippets" you've read. If you would like to read the more complete (NON-patronizing) story, then please read the following 3-parts from Contact 251: ...

http://www.theyfly.com/PDF/Contact251Part1.pdf

http://www.theyfly.com/PDF/Contact251Part2.pdf

http://www.theyfly.com/PDF/Contact251Part3.pdf

To clarify ("And the Semjases...") = There is only one Semjase, she was one of Billy's primary contact persons in the 1970's. Semjase is but one of the Plejarens (pronounce: play-yar-ens) involved with the mission to restore the Truth of the Spiritual reality of the Human Beings, and the Truth of Creation to the Earth Humans. You are encouraged to read more, as there is so much more to all which has been brought to us from the Plejarens and from Billy.

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