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12-18-2009, 04:28 PM | #26 | |
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12-18-2009, 05:22 PM | #27 | |
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12-18-2009, 05:30 PM | #28 |
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Any attack on Humans...should concern all of us.
Am i surprised to hear that the facts are distorted? no...only surprised that some are still surprised.... History is written by the victors..afterall. |
12-18-2009, 05:34 PM | #29 | |
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the figures have been overblown and were continually revised down over a period. death is death though no matter how many were lost. |
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12-18-2009, 06:09 PM | #30 | |
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I am not talking about Torah Jews. I am talking about the Jews that use the Talmud as an excuse to use us gentiles like their slaves. |
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12-18-2009, 06:34 PM | #31 |
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As long as official proof of civilization remains hazy and hidden in the confines of elite order…there is nothing but His-Story to talk about. But, do wonder why it is a secret and who is to gain from it being a secret.
It’s a fact that religious scriptures have been revised over and over. It’s no secret that original text and artifacts have been destroyed, looted and kept out of sight for various reasons. Much of what we know is nothing but fabrications or straight out lies. Everything taught to us in these controlled learning institutions (schools) is meant for control. Scientist is still trying to figure out the correct way to do mathematics and physics. They have admitted numerous times that math and science as we know it will be rewritten in the new future. Honestly, I think most people can’t handle the truth and will look for alternative stories to satisfy their egos and perceptions. Humans were meant to live in peace not chaos. I’m amazed that tribes and Amish people are still thriving while the world is in chaos around them. Why is modern day society not living in peace? Who’s responsible for the world being the way it is today? I’m sure we all know the answer. I often wonder what’s really important to people? Do they want to uplift or do they want to remain as part of the problem? Hmmm…around and around we go... You want a fact? Here’s one… Right now, we all have the opportunity to make true history, history we can all be proud of and find inspiring. Peace |
12-18-2009, 07:38 PM | #32 |
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Absolutely it was more than just jews were killed. There were many different nationalities and many of them happened after the so called war was ended. Russians, Polish, Romanians etc
What do you think happened in Viet Nam ? Iraq and any other place they decided Most of the people died of a flu like symptom or starvation from some type of desease. Exactly what they want to do here. In fact they never stopped this insanity I seen videos similiar to Viet Nam and there they had the cage like cells right in the towns loaded with the people It is very sad and my heart goes out to all of them and we must know the truth in order NOT to let it continue to happen I'm so tired of people that say, they do not want to know, its not important or of course it happened. The Jewish -people have been profiting from this since it happened. Many have gotten rich. My heart goes out to them also because they believe the lies that were told. When it turns back unto them and the reality slaps them in the face they will want nothing more than to stop the lies. Right now the Jewish feel it is their given rights to take what they can (my husband tries to assure me that possibly it was due to their faith only) All and all it was genocide same as now NOW, I have nothing against the Jewish people..........I'm not racist in any way as its not who I am. I dont personally think the Jewish people are profiting from all this but only TPTBs as they do with all wars People who can watch this and not catch the whole picture of this happening all over the world as we speak are really missing out. In so many of our 3rd world Countries this sort of evilness continues today. Its senseless So if you think this is not real, think again.......Its very important that the truth is known. I have a hard time knowing all of this, as I have for the last 5 years with such a pain in my heart, believing that some who will watch these videos or read some of the other stories out there, can deny its authencity. It was not just Jews, It was not just in Germany..................and TPTBs are getting filty rich off these wars. In one way or another we are their profits So many in my family think that its not important and they are so wrong |
12-18-2009, 07:47 PM | #33 |
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I agree with you eXchanger, The holocaust my have indeed been distorted like
so many other things are. It's interesting to note as well, had the Europeans Not colonized america we'd have an entire different civilization here, both are tragedies. |
12-19-2009, 12:55 AM | #34 |
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In our quest to open our minds and free our spirits we have all undergone many psycological changes. One of the most difficult is to stand away from the comfort of "knowing what we know". This has been the second most difficult part of my jurney. ( the first has been facing myself).
Yes. we have been told many things that are not true by the people we want to trust the most, our leaders. For what do we do when our leaders turn against us? A brave post by eXchanger and in the right spirit. Its not about Jews, its about truth. What else have they told us that is not true? Thanks for the post Susan! |
12-19-2009, 02:03 AM | #35 | |
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it is, all about truth, once, we get that out there, love prevails (there is a little more, over on my main thread~Earth History) which is a lot less sticky LOL |
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12-19-2009, 02:54 AM | #36 |
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I don't think it's black and white........
Growing up I have known Holocaust Jewish survivors.......and of course they have one way of looking at it......... But my parent's in law were also in Hitler's SS and have other things to say........ |
12-19-2009, 03:10 AM | #37 |
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I still don't understand why people wish to downplay the jewish holocaust.
I'd expect that behavior out of the Iranian President or a neo-nazi but not people on Avalon. |
12-19-2009, 03:12 AM | #38 | |
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it wasn't just about JEWS , it was about many other people too 1/3 was jewish/the other part was 2/3 other who do you think, controls this world ??? the natives ? zionists-and, you know, 'real jews', do NOT consider, zionists, to be jewish so, the big question -- what are they ??? |
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12-19-2009, 03:26 AM | #39 |
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It doesn't matter what they are.
You're correct as in many people other than Jews died. However, the majority of people killed were Jewish or of Jewish descent. |
12-19-2009, 03:27 AM | #40 |
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Zionist Jews do consider themselves Jewish.......many don't know how deep it leads......only the one's at the top know.......but they also work hand in hand with other's and at the top there is not the divisiveness one sees at the lower levels. It's a political game being played.
I'm not downplaying it- because I don't see how anyone can deny it happened. There were other people killed. Also consider that some who entered the SS did not wish to do so but did it against their will. |
12-19-2009, 03:28 AM | #41 |
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Maybe, Avalon needs a special section
one, for just "healing" and, "love", and, 'warm fuzzies' maybe, on it's own page ??? the search for truth, 'real' truth is a major component of love it is the highest eXpression of love if you truly understood, what families, like my own, who ran out of russia/poland thru france, than, thru germany to canada to esc. prussian war 1874 approx and, from france, to germany, and, to the usa to avoid the prussian war and, from germany, to usa, to canada in the 1800's and, from cornwall, to the usa, to canada in 1805 and, from wales, to the usa, to canada in 1805 and, from ireland, to montreal/canada in 1900 and, from switzerland to france, and, then to germany and, then, to usa/and, then to canada in 1813 and, one brave one, who explored canada, in the late 1700's returned to scotland, and, even took some natives back with him you'd likely understand, what truly went on if you refused to align with the church~you ran/or you got killed there were some, that escaped germany went to che rep., and, said, they were jews ??? i guess, they thought the jews, would be stronger, than, the other religions some changed last names - by reversing the order some actually, hid, in families, carrying different sur names, than, the ones, they were birthed too some - actually changed their names i can tell you that minus 30 without any central heat / or electric, etc., was NOT very easy ~ however, it was done and, i know, part of my family bought a huge plot of land only to discover, there wasn't a road to it and, have to make roads thus in canada, there are many places, they call "the old hwy # X" as, when the old road was built it didn't go straight, it went around boulders/and, streams etc, and, in some cases, bridges needed to be built people who live in euorpe etc., live in an old world and, most never had to contend with the elements of canada ~ some places, not far from toronto didn't have electric / or heat - or even water inside until the mid - to late 50's also- the draco german blood / wanted to eliminate the elven german blood there is a lot of history, you just don't know This is a controversial subject - hidden holocausts !!! There are many of them |
12-19-2009, 04:02 AM | #42 |
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I've recently become interested in Zionism vs Teutonic Zionism...with all of it's ancient and galactic connections. I think this goes very, very deep...with some very, very hard-core people at the top of each faction. There could possibly be a reptilian connection to both factions...and could involve the Deep Underground Military Bases, the Secret Space Program, the City States, and the Gods and/or Goddesses of This World...going back into Ancient Egypt, Lemuria, Atlantis, Sirius, Aldebaran, and the Pleiades. I know very little about this...and I'm really afraid to dig. I'm nervous enough as it is! I think that the political, religious, financial, and military implications of this power struggle are enormous. I also think that the collateral damage is in the scores of millions over the past 100 years...including the Holocaust Victims. A continuation of this BS could mean the end of us all. This world really, really sucks...IMHO.
Namaste Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 12-19-2009 at 04:09 AM. |
12-19-2009, 04:13 AM | #43 |
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Ortho- after WWII my father in law former SS officer (never met him) was relocated to South America and went on to develop aerospace parts for NASA so he says. Is there a connection? I don't know- he has a handler that won't allow him to speak with any of his children and he moved back to South America with the handler (as my husband calls this woman and husband is not into this subject at all but thinks its odd).
I too agree about the ET connection- very deep hole...... |
12-19-2009, 04:31 AM | #44 |
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eleni...I think there has been a lot of compartmentalization...where people are involved in all of this...but don't really know what's really going on. I also think that some people are into this so deeply that they couldn't get out if they wanted to. They may have a tiger by the tail...and they're afraid to let go. Most people don't set out to be bad or evil...but one thing leads to another. I honestly don't think that Hitler realized how bad things were going to get. I just want to see ALL of the secrecy go away...no matter how upsetting and disruptive this is. Then the people of the world will know what we are really up against...and we can move forward as a united and free humanity...and deal with whatever demons exist...in an open manner...so that evil and corruption can be minimized. That's the theory anyway. Who knows what the future will be like? Guess we'll find out, won't we?
eleni...check out everything by Joseph Farrell regarding secret Nazi technology...including their secret activities in Argentina (in cooperation with Juan Peron). Farrell is an Oxford man (patristics!)...and does excellent research. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVo_eIg9X3Y At this point...I'm trying to be on everyone's side...no matter how good or bad they are...or have been. Reasonable amnesty for full disclosure, full cooperation, and reasonable restitution...works for me. Sort of like the 'Year of Jubilee' in the Old Testament...a Global Reboot, if you will. Namaste Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 12-19-2009 at 05:00 AM. |
12-19-2009, 04:46 AM | #45 | |
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1. Who is it that is writing history in this way? 2. Where is the evedence? 3. Would they have a reason to lie? Its not about down playing anything. Its about taking a fresh look at everything we have been told from a new perspective and using cognitive reasoning instead of blind trust to tell us what to believe. |
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12-19-2009, 04:49 AM | #46 |
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First of all - my apology for responding before having thoroughly read all of the previous posts in this thread, but you have indeed opened one on a sensitive subject, eXchanger. Not that I think there's anything wrong about bringing it up, even though your post doesn't make it quite clear why you did. I happen to be one of those who might be offended (and a few years back I would have been, just by anyone even bringing this up).
I have absolutely no doubt that the issue of Holocaust has been used as a basis for many agendas, which now more or less openly contradict the message that has been originally slapped over it by propaganda. I also have no doubt that facts have always been distorted in order to support those agendas. I know that some of the bankers financing both sides of the war were Jewish, and that they never gave a flying ****. But I also know that my grandparents died in the concentration camps along with so MANY others, and I've met some of those who survived, including my mother, although she was too young to have more than a few fuzzy memories. And yes, I now believe we should be talking about all those human beings who died there, rather than continuing the Nazi-programmed division into races/nations/denominations/sexual orientations ... But still, opening a thread by saying that the Holocaust was a hoax, without giving at least a brief summary (and a bunch of off-site links isn't one, with all due respect), even if stating it isn't your own words, like that, don't be surprised to find a few people for whom this might be a wee bit too much to swallow. No offence taken or intended. Peace, Haibane |
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it was also south american too it was also guatamala, we said, about 15 years ago, there was pyramid there-now, found and, it was mexico too many, many, many slaughtered !!! and, then, anasuzi ??? (i found something yesterday; i did up for someone on that) back in 2004/or 2006 interesting stuff - NO doubt |
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HJ, The problem with all of this is the manner in which it happened. They lied to all of us. Yes, they were killed, but it was not the way it was reported Many go through life believing the Germans killed the Jews and now you even see that it was not all Jews, It was all genocide same as what they are doing in Iraq, Afghanishtan, Africa, South America, China, and so on Its TPTB slaughtering people as if we were cattle. People want this to end now. We are fed so many lies that its time we realize this is what it is and we need to stop it ASAP It makes no difference who they are period. They are all human beings and do not deserve to be killed for profit. TPTB's make their money on wars. The truth must get out I think its time to put aside each and every division in this world. No one deserves to be treated less than how we want to be treated. Religion, Politics, Race, Sex.............any of these divisions need to be put an end to so we can move on. |
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