Chemtrail Thread Clearinghouse

Seashore · 01-15-2010, 03:41 PM

I thought it might be helpful to try to consolidate a reference point of the information we've gathered so far about chemtrails, and then going forward, keep all discussion about:

how to identify a chemtrail
where the spraying is going on
what chemtrails are composed of
their purpose - even the possibility of a beneficial purpose
what to do about them
etc.

together on this new thread, if members choose to do so.

These are the various chemtrail threads that I found, along with the dates the threads were started:

1. Chemtrails!!!! - September 8, 2008

2. Are Chemtrails Real? - September 9, 2008

3. Australian chemtrails - September 30, 2008

4. Anyone NOT seeing chemtrails? - October 21, 2008

5. Hail and chemtrails - October 22, 2008

6. Info on Chemtrails - November 10, 2008

7. Alien Morgellons Nanomachine Invasion From Chemtrails - November 12, 2008

8. CIRCULAR CHEMTRAILS (360deg) rings over uk city - November 13, 2008

9. Chemtrails in action?? - November 27, 2008

10. Diskusjoner Om Chemtrails Og diverse! (foreign language) - January 27, 2009

11. Are Chemtrails Poisoning Our Planet? - February 3, 2009

12. Orgone Energy/Chemtrails/the Weather - February 27, 2009

13. Germany Admits Military is doing Chemtrails - March 16, 2009

14. Chemtrails, with a Question "?" Mark? - April 20, 2009

15. Making chemtrails??? - June 21, 2009

16. Jerry Smith - HAARP - Chemtrails July 2009 - July 10, 2009

17. Interesting theory: Chemtrails Killed the Honey Bees - July 14, 2009

18. Today's Brasscheck - July 15, 2009

19. Full Documentary - Weather warfare, chemtrails, on the History Channel - July 28, 2009

20. Mockery of our beautiful world - July 28, 2009

21. Chemtrails & UFOs - saw something amasing - August 14, 2009

22. A superb article on CHEMTRAILS and CONSCIOUSNESS not the weather... - September 23, 2009

23. CHEMTRAILS ja suomi (foreign language) - September 28, 2008

24. Worst chemtrails ever - October 13, 2009

25. Black chemtrails - October 28, 2009

26. Chemtrails and Respiratory Defense - November 15, 2009

27. Chemtrails - Combating??? - November 16, 2009

28. 5 years of research on chemtrails [Clifford E. Carnicom] - November 23, 2009

29. Are Chemtrails Increasing Worldwide? - November 23, 2009

30. Massive Chemtrails over Amarillo, TX - November 27, 2009

31. Are Chemtrails Good or Bad? - December 7, 2009

32. Chemtrails and Project Scalar, the Russina Haarp! - December 13, 2009

33. Chemtrails - January 11, 2010

34. Important Chemtrail Observation - January 14, 2010

pyrangello · 01-15-2010, 03:49 PM

Good Job Seashore ! Team avalon pushing the envelope!

Seashore · 01-15-2010, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pyrangello

Good Job Seashore ! Team avalon pushing the envelope!

Thanks.

One thought I have about how people can use the list as a reference: if they're looking for a certain thread they remember, hit Control F and a keyword on this page. It might work better than doing a Search.

Seashore · 01-16-2010, 01:42 PM

I'm wondering whether having one thread where we put our thoughts on chemtrails would help us connect the dots better.

We could quote from various threads.

Seashore · 01-16-2010, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore

28. 5 years of research on chemtrails [Clifford E. Carnicom] - November 23, 2009

(From the above thread)

Quote:

Originally Posted by no caste

...When I started reading Carnicom's site, I was really struck by what I thought was a freaky coincidence of dates, with worldwide notice given to (it looks like) hundreds of public figures, i.e. doctors, biologists, mayors, state attorneys, US Marshals, foreign embassies, ... I always wondered if his information and this release figured at all into the events of Sept 11/01.

NATIONAL & GLOBAL NOTICE GIVEN
Posted on behalf of an Active Citizen
by Clifford E Carnicom - Sep 04 2001
....
Dear Cliff,

Per your request, I've compiled a partial list of individuals/positions/organizations to whom I've already MAILED (via snail mail USPS)copies of your website pages - 5 sheets in all, with both sides presenting your website materials.

The U.S. Surgeon General
Office of the U.S. Surgeon General
Department of Health & Human Services
200 Independence Avenue S.W.
Washington, D.C. 20201

The Deputy U.S. Surgeon General
Office of the U.S. Surgeon General
Department of Health & Human Services
200 Independence Avenue S.W.
Washington, D.C. 20201

The Chief of Staff
Office of the U.S. Surgeon General
Department of Health & Human Services
200 Independence Avenue S.W.
Washington, D.C. 20201

ETC ETC ETC
http://www.carnicom.com/notice1.htm

I'm wondering about a statement by Don Croft taken from his article entitled "Chemtrail Documentaries Clouds of Death vs Aerosol Crimes."

The statement is, "Clifford Carnicom, one of the slicker CIA disinformants on the Internet, has been promoting a fake documentary on chemtrails in the past year or so and many incredulous and well-meaning people have been disseminating free copies of it, lately. Carnicom's 'documentary' is entitled Aerosol Crimes."

lucrum · 01-16-2010, 08:31 PM

I hope this covers the points mentioned in the first thread.

In my area, what is catching my attention, is the LACK of chemtrails or chemtrail-like patterns on the sky. I cannot remember seeing a single trail for weeks or even months. With that said, alot of the time we've had mostly cloudy or fogged up skies. It's not very abnormal for this area to be like this during the winter months, but even when we have clear skies...and then they are REALLY clear...all I have seen is the normal, expected contrails of planes in high altitude.

Anyone else observing the same lack of these, opposed to how it was in late fall or during the summer?

Connecting with Sauce · 01-16-2010, 09:05 PM

Conscious media network did a Fifth element show in June 2009 on this very topic...

Not sure if this link will work...
http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/fifth/fe0609.htm?

This may work if that doesn't...
http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/fifth.htm

You may need to register to hear the 5th Elements she does... Can't remember...

*******

June 2009: Chemtrails

The subject of chemtrails has been a hotly debated topic for many years and one that Regina has carried out considerable investigation.

What are those trails in the sky? They appear in cross hatch formation and litter the sky with expanding trails that linger and spread out to a hazy fillm that sometimes precedes rain and sometimes not. Why are the jets turning round and coming back on another path? Did someone forget something? Or are they military jets doing experiments with weather modification.

Over the years, people have questioned and probed but no-one "in authority" is coming up with a definitive statement.

Regina discusses what they might be and what purpose they might have.

*******
Worth a listen if you can...

and here is a thread I started about "chemtrail and consciousness suppression" and a link to an article on the topic... in it it discusses a number of items I've also connected together with the aluminium shielding and the chinese seeds in space... We are the seeds and it is our DNA they are trying to prevent from WAKING UP... hence large cties being the target for the trails...

enjoy...
Oh... my 35. was number 22. sorry

edited now... sorry seashore

Seashore · 01-16-2010, 09:52 PM

I'm amazed at how complex this issue is!

I hope we can begin to weave things together and reach a consensus!

Help!

Seashore · 01-18-2010, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucrum

I hope this covers the points mentioned in the first thread.

Speaking of the first thread, I like this quote from it:

Quote:

1. Chemtrails!!!! - September 8, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by unlimited mind

here in Western North Carolina, we are being exposed to whatever it is they are spraying very frequently and heavily i might add. they get one layer down, and they spray over top of that.

because of this I began searching for ways to combat this diabolical madness. there are many resources available on the web in regards to orgone energy. i began my research of orgone about two years ago and set out to prove all of the claims about it with my own experimentation.

first i bought a few devices that i found online, and finally purchased a resonator from our beloved St Claire. once i was able to experiment, i soon discovered that all of the claims were indeed true.

i have taken many pictures of the results of the devices i now make and their effects on the atmosphere above the area i live. i can also attest to the claims of the benefits of orgone.

i just had a class at my home on saturday teaching people about this energy and how to make their own devices. it is amazing at how much information you can share just in the teaching of orgone. it includes magnetics, torsion physics, focused intent, programing and utilzing the crystal and mineral vibratory energetics and so much more.

even if people are not awake to the bigger picture, it seems a very viable way to empower and educate in a non-dogmatic way. plus, everyone gets to participate by learning about the energy, planning the energetics of the device they want to create and finally creating it. it all happens really fast, and that, in and of itself, is a teaching.

i created an orgone group within this forum for those who wish to learn and discuss this energy.

http://projectavalon.net/forum/group...oupid=3&gmid=2

swordsmith · 02-01-2010, 10:51 AM

A brief chemtrail film and petition for the UK. It looks pretty good, anyhow it's worth a shot,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeaUavrlcMs

& where's the freakin "new thread" button? I am a self confessed comutard but it really is almost impossible to see how to start a thread here, and I've even used tech support ( people under 30)

Seashore · 02-01-2010, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordsmith

A brief chemtrail film and petition for the UK. It looks pretty good, anyhow it's worth a shot,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeaUavrlcMs

& where's the freakin "new thread" button? I am a self confessed comutard but it really is almost impossible to see how to start a thread here, and I've even used tech support ( people under 30)

I'm glad you didn't start a new tread for this, because I was hoping we could keep chemtrail posts together here.

To start a new thread, click on the sub-form name that you want the thread to be in, and then in the upper left of the screen click on "New Topic" in Avalon Electric or "New Thread" in Minty or Default Style.

gita · 02-01-2010, 08:26 PM

They're teaching this in schools??!!!

Seashore · 02-01-2010, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gita

They're teaching this in schools??!!!

Thank you.

It's unfortunate that she mentioned the moon landing as being a hoax in with her comments about chemtrails...

Also, I think it's hard to focus on the photos in the video and know that each one is actually a chemtrail and not a cloud. For me, it's not contrail vs. chemtrail, it's chemtrails vs. cloud. How to know the difference...

Erin · 02-02-2010, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gita

They're teaching this in schools??!!!

Social engineering on geoengineering...

Another...
UCAR has a nice little web page to teach us just what we're looking at:
http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/lin...contrails.html.
Apparently those "persistent spreading "contrails" are just due to very moist air.

UCAR = University Corporation for Atmospheric Research "a nonprofit consortium of research universities, on behalf of the National Science Foundation and the university community."
http://www2.ucar.edu/about-us

Seashore · 02-03-2010, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erin

http://www2.ucar.edu/about-us

I've never noticed "www2" before...

Seashore · 02-03-2010, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erin

Social engineering on geoengineering...

Another...
UCAR has a nice little web page to teach us just what we're looking at:
http://www.windows.ucar.edu/tour/lin...contrails.html.
Apparently those "persistent spreading "contrails" are just due to very moist air.

UCAR = University Corporation for Atmospheric Research "a nonprofit consortium of research universities, on behalf of the National Science Foundation and the university community."
http://www2.ucar.edu/about-us

A Wikipedia article on the UCAR notes: "In addition to NSF sponsorship, funding includes grants from and contracts with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), the Department of Defense (DOD), Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), Department of Energy (DOE), Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), and other agencies and organizations."

Erin · 02-04-2010, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore

I've never noticed "www2" before...

My guess, Seashore, is that www2 is related to the Internet2 project. First I've seen it too.

Erin

Seashore · 02-04-2010, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erin

My guess, Seashore, is that www2 is related to the Internet2 project. First I've seen it too.

Erin

That's what I was wondering and I'm dreading the possibility that it is.

We need our full, free access!

Seashore · 02-08-2010, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore

20. Mockery of our beautiful world - July 28, 2009

I have been thinking about the discussion that took place on this thread concerning being faced with the problem of the spraying of harmful chemicals where one lives, and what to try to do about it...

From the thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by mel

I awoke at 5.30am to the F*****S spraying...
OUR LIVES BEGIN TO END THE DAY WE BECOME SILENT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT MATTER. MARTIN LUTHER KING.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore

Please see the thread "A Legal Militia."

It's about taking action in America, but maybe you can get some ideas. Also, I imagine that other countries will be discussed on this thread as time marches on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

I don't see what a milita has to do with chemtrails and I don't approve of taking the streets as it only encourages them to impose martial law and make things WORSE for all.

This is the worst kind of disinfo that one can pass along.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TtC

You won't stop anything by resisting it or fighting against it.

It's like screwing for virginity or bombing for peace. It doesn't work, nor will it.

By resisting it, you make it worse.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

To sum it up in other words?

A legal milita?

HA HA HA HA! LOL LOL LOL!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore

What militia are you referring to?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

Forming a legal militia as per the thread you were linking to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore

What is your understanding of what is being recommended in the thread?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

Don't play dumb with me.

The militia stuff has nothing to do with chemtrails and I share the original poster's anger at chemtrails.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore

Excuse me?

What militia stuff are you talking about?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seashore

The word "militia" is a figure of speech in the thread "A Legal Militia."

It has nothing to do with taking to the streets.

People who are interested in being citizen-activists to do something about chemtrails and other issues can learn how to use the legal system.

For your convenience, here is the link to the thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15298

It seems to me that we have confusion, and inertia, that holds us back from taking action...

I know that there is corruption in the legal system, but I've heard it said that there are some courageous judges...

01-15-2010, 03:41 PM	#1
Seashore Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,564	Chemtrail Thread Clearinghouse I thought it might be helpful to try to consolidate a reference point of the information we've gathered so far about chemtrails, and then going forward, keep all discussion about: how to identify a chemtrail where the spraying is going on what chemtrails are composed of their purpose - even the possibility of a beneficial purpose what to do about them etc. together on this new thread, if members choose to do so. These are the various chemtrail threads that I found, along with the dates the threads were started: 1. Chemtrails!!!! - September 8, 2008 2. Are Chemtrails Real? - September 9, 2008 3. Australian chemtrails - September 30, 2008 4. Anyone NOT seeing chemtrails? - October 21, 2008 5. Hail and chemtrails - October 22, 2008 6. Info on Chemtrails - November 10, 2008 7. Alien Morgellons Nanomachine Invasion From Chemtrails - November 12, 2008 8. CIRCULAR CHEMTRAILS (360deg) rings over uk city - November 13, 2008 9. Chemtrails in action?? - November 27, 2008 10. Diskusjoner Om Chemtrails Og diverse! (foreign language) - January 27, 2009 11. Are Chemtrails Poisoning Our Planet? - February 3, 2009 12. Orgone Energy/Chemtrails/the Weather - February 27, 2009 13. Germany Admits Military is doing Chemtrails - March 16, 2009 14. Chemtrails, with a Question "?" Mark? - April 20, 2009 15. Making chemtrails??? - June 21, 2009 16. Jerry Smith - HAARP - Chemtrails July 2009 - July 10, 2009 17. Interesting theory: Chemtrails Killed the Honey Bees - July 14, 2009 18. Today's Brasscheck - July 15, 2009 19. Full Documentary - Weather warfare, chemtrails, on the History Channel - July 28, 2009 20. Mockery of our beautiful world - July 28, 2009 21. Chemtrails & UFOs - saw something amasing - August 14, 2009 22. A superb article on CHEMTRAILS and CONSCIOUSNESS not the weather... - September 23, 2009 23. CHEMTRAILS ja suomi (foreign language) - September 28, 2008 24. Worst chemtrails ever - October 13, 2009 25. Black chemtrails - October 28, 2009 26. Chemtrails and Respiratory Defense - November 15, 2009 27. Chemtrails - Combating??? - November 16, 2009 28. 5 years of research on chemtrails [Clifford E. Carnicom] - November 23, 2009 29. Are Chemtrails Increasing Worldwide? - November 23, 2009 30. Massive Chemtrails over Amarillo, TX - November 27, 2009 31. Are Chemtrails Good or Bad? - December 7, 2009 32. Chemtrails and Project Scalar, the Russina Haarp! - December 13, 2009 33. Chemtrails - January 11, 2010 34. Important Chemtrail Observation - January 14, 2010 Last edited by Seashore; 01-16-2010 at 04:49 PM. Reason: Add numbers to make the list more manageable

01-15-2010, 03:49 PM	#2
pyrangello Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 412	Re: Chemtrail Thread Clearinghouse Good Job Seashore ! Team avalon pushing the envelope!

01-16-2010, 01:42 PM	#4
Seashore Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,564	Re: Chemtrail Thread Clearinghouse I'm wondering whether having one thread where we put our thoughts on chemtrails would help us connect the dots better. We could quote from various threads.

01-16-2010, 08:31 PM	#6
lucrum Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 209	Re: Chemtrail Thread Clearinghouse I hope this covers the points mentioned in the first thread. In my area, what is catching my attention, is the LACK of chemtrails or chemtrail-like patterns on the sky. I cannot remember seeing a single trail for weeks or even months. With that said, alot of the time we've had mostly cloudy or fogged up skies. It's not very abnormal for this area to be like this during the winter months, but even when we have clear skies...and then they are REALLY clear...all I have seen is the normal, expected contrails of planes in high altitude. Anyone else observing the same lack of these, opposed to how it was in late fall or during the summer?

01-16-2010, 09:05 PM	#7
Connecting with Sauce Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Chelmsford, Essex Posts: 650	Re: Chemtrail Thread Clearinghouse Conscious media network did a Fifth element show in June 2009 on this very topic... Not sure if this link will work... http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/fifth/fe0609.htm? This may work if that doesn't... http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/fifth.htm You may need to register to hear the 5th Elements she does... Can't remember... ***** June 2009: Chemtrails The subject of chemtrails has been a hotly debated topic for many years and one that Regina has carried out considerable investigation. What are those trails in the sky? They appear in cross hatch formation and litter the sky with expanding trails that linger and spread out to a hazy fillm that sometimes precedes rain and sometimes not. Why are the jets turning round and coming back on another path? Did someone forget something? Or are they military jets doing experiments with weather modification. Over the years, people have questioned and probed but no-one "in authority" is coming up with a definitive statement. Regina discusses what they might be and what purpose they might have. ***** Worth a listen if you can... and here is a thread I started about "chemtrail and consciousness suppression" and a link to an article on the topic... in it it discusses a number of items I've also connected together with the aluminium shielding and the chinese seeds in space... We are the seeds and it is our DNA they are trying to prevent from WAKING UP... hence large cties being the target for the trails... enjoy... Oh... my 35. was number 22. sorry edited now... sorry seashore Last edited by Connecting with Sauce; 01-16-2010 at 09:11 PM. Reason: correction :)

01-16-2010, 09:52 PM	#8
Seashore Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,564	Re: Chemtrail Thread Clearinghouse I'm amazed at how complex this issue is! I hope we can begin to weave things together and reach a consensus! Help!

02-01-2010, 10:51 AM	#10
swordsmith Unsubscribed Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: south east uk Posts: 379	Re: Chemtrail Thread Clearinghouse A brief chemtrail film and petition for the UK. It looks pretty good, anyhow it's worth a shot, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeaUavrlcMs & where's the freakin "new thread" button? I am a self confessed comutard but it really is almost impossible to see how to start a thread here, and I've even used tech support ( people under 30)

02-01-2010, 08:26 PM	#12
gita Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Plymouth, UK Posts: 516	Re: Chemtrail Thread Clearinghouse They're teaching this in schools??!!!

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