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Old 10-24-2008, 07:56 AM   #1
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The Disclosure Project is a nonprofit research project working to fully disclose the facts about UFOs, extraterrestrial intelligence, and classified advanced energy and propulsion systems. We have over 400 government, military, and intelligence community witnesses testifying to their direct, personal, first hand experience with UFOs, ETs, ET technology, and the cover-up that keeps this information secret.

On Wednesday, May 9th, 2001, over twenty military, intelligence, government, corporate and scientific witnesses came forward at the National Press Club in Washington, DC to establish the reality of UFOs or extraterrestrial vehicles, extraterrestrial life forms, and resulting advanced energy and propulsion technologies. The weight of this first-hand testimony, along with supporting government documentation and other evidence, will establish without any doubt the reality of these phenomena.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...43665260900218

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...54636796558877

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Old 10-24-2008, 07:59 AM   #2
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Hiya,

I watched that vid a few weeks ago and it almost knocked me off my chair lol.
Well done and thanks to everyone that stood up.
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Old 10-24-2008, 08:30 AM   #3
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Bobcat, in these challenging times, we need to be standing up as a collective, whilst only the few are standing up we are easily dismissed and put down. Imagine a demonstration of only 20 people, everyone will walk by and dismiss them as cranks, etc, etc. Now imagine 10,000, 50,000 100,00
500,000, 1,000,000,000 you couldn't be ignored then. The point is the people are the power, not the presidents, prime ministers or polititians. They need us, we don't need them.
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Old 10-24-2008, 09:15 AM   #4
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now consider that laurance rockefeller contributed quite alot to Dr Greer and his project. knowing full well that rockefeller is involved in the worlds secret controlling society. the same people that are holding back information to the public are funding projects to release information to the public....

i am not discrediting the witnesses by this statement or Dr Greer himself...

where does this circle end.
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Old 10-24-2008, 11:06 AM   #5
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That's very interesting, can you provide more information on this please?
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Old 10-24-2008, 12:43 PM   #6
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now consider that laurance rockefeller contributed quite alot to Dr Greer and his project. knowing full well that rockefeller is involved in the worlds secret controlling society. the same people that are holding back information to the public are funding projects to release information to the public....

i am not discrediting the witnesses by this statement or Dr Greer himself...

where does this circle end.
I have no doubt that there may be UFOs - but not alien craft, simply craft engineered here with. Not-reversed engineered. Simply our technology, secret techology. Higher technology than the public knows about has always been kept secret throughout all ages, it is nothing new.

As well, bennycog is absolutely correct, that in fact if you go into the heavy amounts of research there is available about the rockefeller foundation, you'll find that not only Greer, but many, many UFO/alien promoting organizations have been set up or funded by the rockefeller foundation. It is psychological warfare, counter intelligence.

Another thing to, is you always have to be extra skeptical and on guard when you are getting this information from "ex-cia, ex-military", etc. Even if some of these people are genuine, information in these organizations is very compartmentalized as most of you know, and some such as Cooper have pointed out, that they have been compartmentalized to believe some of this stuff themselves.

Not only that but given the technology used by the controlling oligarchy now-a-days, it is possible to even put memories into people's minds. Especially in institutions like the military where human experiements run rampant.
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Old 10-24-2008, 01:06 PM   #7
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Hello Alternative,

I am wondering what has happened since 2001 though, did this just die? thanks and was never a doubt in my mind, I mean even as a child it seemed totally unreasonable that we were all alone out here.

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Old 10-24-2008, 01:14 PM   #8
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Hello Alternative,

I am wondering what has happened since 2001 though, did this just die? thanks and was never a doubt in my mind, I mean even as a child it seemed totally unreasonable that we were all alone out here.

Thanks

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Just for the record, it's obvious there is life elsewhere in the universe. But that does just justify buying into all the ufo/alien propoganda, rockefeller funded, counter intelligence, and media pushed dis-infomation out there.
Life on other planets is something we all know exists, and so we are easily fooled and even want to believe all the dis-information about aliens.
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Old 10-24-2008, 01:26 PM   #9
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The Disclosure Project is a nonprofit research project working to fully disclose the facts about UFOs, extraterrestrial intelligence, and classified advanced energy and propulsion systems. We have over 400 government, military, and intelligence community witnesses testifying to their direct, personal, first hand experience with UFOs, ETs, ET technology, and the cover-up that keeps this information secret.

On Wednesday, May 9th, 2001, over twenty military, intelligence, government, corporate and scientific witnesses came forward at the National Press Club in Washington, DC

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...43665260900218

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...54636796558877
That was Disclosure as far I'm concerned!

I mean really how many more Bread Crumbs do you follow.

Project Disclosure has already happened!

So all stop asking and start Demanding All the Facts and Drag one of theses Things out in the open for All to See.

We were All Shy once

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Old 10-24-2008, 04:16 PM   #10
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The disclosure project is Rockefeller funded. This is taken from another messageboard talking about the subject.

'Lawrence Rockefeller, a member of the Rockefeller "dynasty", was very interested in The Disclosure Project. The Rockefeller family has been involved in the funding of countless "social experiments". Many admit that the Rockefeller family provided funds for the "War of the Worlds" broadcast directed by Orson Welles. Naturally, many people missed the opening credits to the radio special and thought they were actually being attacked by aliens. 1.7 million people took to the streets.
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"The Disclosure Project" is obviously just a organization of stagnancy. They are funded by generals, lieutenants, politicians, and a billionaire. It's best not to trust organizations that are strangely cooperative with the government. Check out this acknowledgments page from thedisclosureproject.org, you can find Lawrence Rockefeller's name towards the middle of the column on the right:

http://www.disclosureproject.org/ES-...edgments-2.htm'
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Old 10-24-2008, 04:40 PM   #11
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Just because both sides of the fence have been funded by the same groups it doesnt mean the participants are under their control.

Its like buying many shares, you may get a say or be able to sit on the board to try and sway opinion but you may not have full control.

"Question everything" is a common term. I would suggest all the people who simply think because a Rockefeller has thrown money at it then its clearly a group working against our best interests....should 'question everything' including this assumption.
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Old 10-24-2008, 10:37 PM   #12
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i believe that %90 or more of the ufo's that people see are government projects. be it that they have recovered a craft or developed it from very controlled scientists... hitler had scientists locked away underground and that ended up being disclosed. most of them scientists ended up in the us.
the government would have alot more than just these nazi scientists working for, or should i say slaves for them. of course the cabal would want to keep a close eye on the population's attempts to reveal, release. If they cannot control the people releasing the information they will sure try to control how and what is released as best they can.....

remember they don't think that any of us is smart enough or mature enough spiritually to understand what we are...( i cant say i fully know myself because we are all still waiting for the answer from within ourselves)

and they dont' think we are smart enough because they have controlled us in many many ways. harrp, chemtrails, tv, you name it.

you are part of the puzzle.
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Old 10-25-2008, 12:19 AM   #13
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My take on what is happening is based on the following premise. There are two factions vying for control of the U.S. One is the Neocon/Bush machine and their objective is to bring Nazi-like tyranny. Fear on the part of the citizenery is their friend. UFO information from this faction tends to emphasize the doom and gloom fear factor to make it easier to reel in our freedoms. The other faction, ostensibly from the Rockefeller side of big money, has broken away from the number one faction and wants there to be freedom, but under the control of the big corporations, so you can spend your life working for them. The UFO information that comes from this camp in a little more benign and emphasizes the technological breakthroughs that will benefit corporate America. Neither faction wears a white hat. One decidedly black, and the other a shade of grey. I tend to doubt any (dis)information about aliens/UFOs that present a bleak or world-dominating scenario. As has been said by many before, any alien civilization that was technically advanced and malevolent toward us, would have kicked our stupid butts a long time ago.
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Old 10-25-2008, 03:14 AM   #14
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Though the message somewhat varies.... I am under the belief that we are not only being visited by extra-terrestrial beings, but we have been since the dawn of existence. Now, obviously, there is the question of where they came from, and how they got here, but from the accounts of everyone who has spoken on the subject, these beings are literally so superior to us in every way, is it really THAT much of a stretch to believe they have mastered what we refer to as time/space travel? Is it not possible, that they have come to realize that what we consider to be time/distance, may be completely wrong? To these beings, any point in time, may be only a finger-snap away.

The possibilities are endless.... but I am under the belief that they aren't meant to be feared.... afterall, as superior as they are, if they wanted us gone, they could have wiped us out back in those ancient times..... instead, they have left us clues to their existence, and have all but rolled out the red carpet to say "Take me to your leader". I also believe that when the time comes, and the world truly needs intervention, that is when they will make their presence known to all....
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Old 10-25-2008, 03:28 AM   #15
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Just because both sides of the fence have been funded by the same groups it doesnt mean the participants are under their control.

Its like buying many shares, you may get a say or be able to sit on the board to try and sway opinion but you may not have full control.

"Question everything" is a common term. I would suggest all the people who simply think because a Rockefeller has thrown money at it then its clearly a group working against our best interests....should 'question everything' including this assumption.
The Cinema owner chooses what you watch in his Cinema, you may be watching one thing on one screen while others are watching something else next door.
you may all be told the name of the movie, yet watched completely different versions of the movie, group "A" saw the uncut editors edition and group "B" saw the public version.
both will come out talking about what they saw, yet some will have more information than others.
ever think that some got to watch the modified movie knowing they would talk about it one day?

Just a thought
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now consider that laurance rockefeller contributed quite alot to Dr Greer and his project. knowing full well that rockefeller is involved in the worlds secret controlling society. the same people that are holding back information to the public are funding projects to release information to the public....

i am not discrediting the witnesses by this statement or Dr Greer himself...

where does this circle end.
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Old 10-25-2008, 11:56 PM   #17
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here's some more on the new age, dis-infomartion, and the ufo movement:

transcript: http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.c...Nov152007.html

Nov. 15, 2007
Alan Watt "Cutting Through The Matrix" LIVE on WTPRN:

"Robo-Roaches and New Age Coaches (Motto: Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil, See No Evil) = State of Denial"

(Articles: "Roaches follow their robo-leader"
http://parallelnormal.com/2007/11/15...obo-leader/and
"Scientists prep mind reading device" by Mark Baard, parallelnormal.com.
http://parallelnormal.com/2007/11/15...eading-device/ )

***Dialogue Copyrighted Alan Watt - Nov. 15, 2007 (Exempting Music, Literary Quotes, and Callers' Comments)
Waking Up - The Trap - Aliens, Paranormal - Fake Reality. Adolf Hitler, Ancient Tyrants, Powerful Families - Institutions, Royal Institute of International Affairs, Council on Foreign Relations. Cecil Rhodes, Boer War, Raids - British East India Company - Anglo-American Establishment. Queen Elizabeth I. Court, Open Agenda, Standards of Living - Ancient Rome, Minoans, Harappans - Brytish Empire, Commonwealth, Parliament. Outer Space, Channelers, New Age Movement - Madame Blavatsky, Anne Besant, Alice Bailey, Theosophy, Mysticism - Discrediting Intelligence. Westminster Abbey: Tesserated (Checkerboard) Floor, Tombs, Obelisks in "Christian" Church. North American Integration, Unification - Montreal, Napoleonic Code. Egypt, Eye of Ra - Stalin - Big Brother. Skinner, Behaviourism, Alteration of Environment - Genetic Enhancement - "Inferior Types", "Junk Genes". Self-help Groups, Books - Scientific Crutches, Assurance, Insurance. MI5, MI6, Creation of Modern Mythology for Public - Aleister Crowley, OTO (Ordo Templi Orientis) - H.G. Wells. "New World Order", Hinduism - American Eugenics Society, "Perfect Specimens", Rockefeller, I.G. Farben. National and International Socialism - Trotsky, Perpetual Revolution.
***LISTEN / DOWNLOAD HOUR 1
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.n..._Nov152007.mp3

Fortress Britain, Armoured Vehicles, Body Cavity Searches - Acceptance of "Normal". Advanced Technology - RE-Search - UFO Movement, Rockefeller Foundation - DARPA, NSA - 3 Levels of Science. Star Trek series - Future Society done in Allegorical Form in Space - Starship Enterprise, Alien Races (Foreign Countries) - Dehumanization of Enemy. Computer "Programming", Common Culture. Maitreya, Krishnamurti - Mind Manipulation - "Benevolent Dictator" - MKULTRA, Psychic Driving. Young Men, Hormones, Acceptance by Peer Group, Gangs - Tribal Leaders - Uniforms, Emblems, Rewards - Soldier (Dies for Sun). ID Cards, Tracking by Cell-Phone Towers - Brain Chipping, Interface with Nervous System - NASA, Chipped Astronauts - Total Information Network. Flu Shots, Viruses "Evolving" - AIDS - Vaccines taken on Faith. Politicians, CEOs, Psychopathic Types - "Old Boys Network" - Pyramid Structure - Knighting.
***LISTEN / DOWNLOAD HOUR 2
http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.n..._Nov152007.mp3


Here's a few nits from this talk:
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Now for those who suddenly wake up because they've been personally affected by the changes that occurring more rapidly today, mainly in the pocketbook or they lose their jobs and plants close down or the competition buys out their company and throws them on the street, the workers, generally don't know what's going on and they're told by the mainstream media that they shouldn't look for a job for life. It's been on for about 20 years now when they started this hype. You'll have maybe 10, 15 jobs in your lifetime and you're supposed to just get used to it. They go round in circles looking for answers and those who manage to get back into companies and businesses and corporations stop right there.



Once they get employed again they're back into the rat race. They're shuffling hard for money and they're hustling away to keep afloat and to keep their mortgages going or the rents going or families going and it's not an easy task. Therefore it's easy for them when they start to wake up to fall into the other trap, which has been laid out by the same big boys who run the world, and that's the trap of thinking that somehow there can't be human beings that run this world. It must be something alien to them and that becomes quite natural because you see you've already swallowed the world as its been presented to you and the thought that there could be people who are so well connected and organized that run the world, so incredibly detailed in their mythology, is a hard thing to grasp, so it's easier to jump off into the paranormal or into aliens or whatever rather than accept the basic truth. Part of the reason for that is because we have been given a complete fake history. A fake reality in fact and it's so easy then to jump into what must be something else because “I'm so clever, how could I have been fooled my whole life.” So you fall into the trap of it must be something other than human.

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Therefore, you plan everything like a strategy in war, way ahead of time, and gradually you pull it off; and for those who wake up, they're suddenly stunned because they have no idea. They think that democracy really exists. They really do. They really think there's been such a thing as democracy, which has been the main front cover for this whole agenda all of this time. Then they find out suddenly – now all these institutions that are given for the public really don't work, or they're not there at all, or there's no real justice, so they go off into outer space thinking it must be aliens. That's why big boys are funded by the Futurist Society to put that idea in your mind and then you run around in circles for the rest of your life buying lots and lots of books and talking about Zeta Reticuli and visiting channelers and all this rubbish, and you become very, very poor, very confused. Very confused indeed and you'll never get any where near the truth. You're in la-la land.



The New Age movement was also created by the big foundations. Look into the histories of Madame Blavatsky, who was to kick-off a form of freemasonry. Even though Pike and Mackey who was the historian for freemasonry said these were side degrees. They're not real true degrees because they only give men the high degrees, but it was to fool women into joining this, what they thought was an occult mystic organization, because they had to get the middle class female population onboard, so they gave them what they called theosophy and Blavatsky was put out there as the founder. She was primarily an actress. Her sister herself wrote a book about it saying she'd been acting since she was a child and telling stories. She did her job very well and she was given backing by the media that was also owned by the same aristocracy that pushed her.



You always give religions for the public. You give mysticism to the public and you keep them mystified forever. The best way of discrediting true information, which is called intelligence, is to grab that same intelligence, mix it with fantasy and offer it to the public who will often run with it; and those who are still given the basic intelligence are then pooh-poohed by people who've heard all the nonsense.
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The BBC did a documentary on Area 51 in the 1970’s and you could see these things coming out of Air Force base where they make them and test them. They keep all this stuff quiet from the public and they create the UFO movement to distract you from what they're actually doing. “It must be from outside the world because we can't do that. We don't have that technology,” and everybody wants to fall for it because it's so amazing. We loved to be amazed, just like religions have done in the past when Elijah went off into space and Jesus went up through the roof and all that and just appeared up in the sky. They do the same kind of things today with UFOs and they get movements started and they actually fund them. Do you know the Rockefeller Foundation is the biggest funder to all these UFO movements and their leaders? I know that for a fact because I know a person who works in the Center for Rockefeller Foundation and all she does is sign checks all day long to all these different organizations. That's how the world is run, including our thoughts and our fantasies and our hobbies even and things which make us go ooh and aah. That's how it's done.
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:08 AM   #18
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