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Old 10-04-2008, 05:07 PM   #26
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Yes, yes. I am. Please, don't tell the others !
Nice one Stefaan, you had me worried there for a while, I thought you was just nasty!

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Old 10-04-2008, 05:24 PM   #27
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hmm? i only have one question....
Why is EVERYBODY ALWAYS referring to the bible as an primary information source?
The Bible is HARD proven to be secondary if not lower on the list, compared to the oldest civilizations here on earth.
Like the Sumerians or for ex, Horus both were born the 25th in Dec by a virgin, 3 kings came with gifts when he was born. Later he had 12 disciples, were betrayed and hanged up on the cross, just to rise back up again after 3 days, etc etc do i have to go on?
And on top of all this there are Sumerian gods with ex the same history?

Nice work btw Norval & Gale :-)

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Old 10-04-2008, 05:28 PM   #28
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"There's no religion higher than the truth" as mister Gandhi would say
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Old 10-04-2008, 06:01 PM   #29
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Norval

All threads at Camelot were stopped, not just yours, which im now pleased to have read as I always wondered whether religious text greatly related to the ET stuff. Im confused also what the problem is. I suggest you carry on spill your knowledge. I for one am, as many others here clearly are, very keen to learn and take in your research.

Im reading the crater thread now so maybe I will understand

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Nice one Stefaan, you had me worried there for a while.
Do you know what I can't understand Stefaan?
We are provided for free, a wonderfull forum, where like minded inteligent people can discuss topics which we have a passion for, with experts in their field, who probably would want to be somewhere else but they give up their time to answer our questions, what are you contributing here, what's your point?
Do you want to ask Norval a question?
What is your point?
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Old 10-04-2008, 06:18 PM   #31
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I have read the posts up to here, and will get back to the pertinate answers as soon as I
can. Thank you all for your input. That includes the IAC agents and the bad ETs too. I
really mean that.

It is about understanding the bible from a technological comprehension of what it says.
This presentation is about physical realities, not spiritual ones. Using the bible as the
picture on the cover of this "big box" puzzle brings together all the past, present, and
some of the future. And exposes the "other" writings, many that there are, for what they
are. Much truth has been received from ancient writings, tales, mythology, legends, etc.
We just compare it with what the bible says to see the truth and lies in any of those "other
writings".

I would ask of you all, to please end the private messages, my box very sooneth runneth
overeth, and that is with deleting them as they are also in my email. But thank you all for
them. Ask your questions here please. At present this forum is not set up quite to handle
something like this. I will do what I can to answer as many of your questions that I can as
fast as I can. So much for a day of rest, but questions deserve answers.

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cunning ham sneaky pig? Nor val northern power? Heck, I dunna know.
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China2012,
Yes, correct, it is at a period that was inevitable.
Alexandra,
What problem? Then read them again. I am amazed at what Bill and Kerry are going
through to be honest, and they are doing their best I am sure.
Pineal,
My advise is to actually read it for yourself. Start with the so called New Testament.
Kuculcan,
A normal exreligion point of view. Or, possibly another point of view with that point being
to discredit the bible. Ooopsss to late.
Mike Jetson,
The bible was never about "religion" it was religionized by the dark side.

Thank you to all the others that have posted, now to figure out how to answer all those
private messages in this thread next.
Keep looking up.
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Sorry.

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Old 10-04-2008, 06:56 PM   #34
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I believe there can be Time Travel.
Why do I believe that?

For one Linear time is an illusion. It is a 3D dimensional thing.
Time is not the same in other dimensions.
Everything happens at the same 'time'.
We just do not perceive that in this 3rd dimension.

We can travel 'In Time' when we dream, project, OBEs, etc.
That does not mean we can affect time. We can observe different times though.

Now is there a device that can affect time? I really do not know.
I have read about such devices. I have read when time is affected then it simply creates another 'Time Line'.
That makes sense to me to a point.
Then again I do not have any hard evidence...
 
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I believe there can be Time Travel.
Why do I believe that?

For one Linear time is an illusion. It is a 3D dimensional thing.
Time is not the same in other dimensions.
Everything happens at the same 'time'.
We just do not perceive that in this 3rd dimension.

We can travel 'In Time' when we dream, project, OBEs, etc.
That does not mean we can affect time. We can observe different times though.

Now is there a device that can affect time? I really do not know.
I have read about such devices. I have read when time is affected then it


simply creates another 'Time Line'.
That makes sense to me to a point.
Then again I do not have any hard evidence...
Old Dood, It's obvious, time travel doesn't exsist, why, because no body ever came back to introduce themselves, and one group or another, would have wiped us out by now to gain domination.
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Old 10-04-2008, 07:37 PM   #36
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Norval,
Please do not dismiss my question. It was a valid inquiry.

I am literate and I have studied many things for more years than you and so have a lot more on this forum. Some of us here have been searching for the real truth, and I repeat real truth, not something some POPE put together from SELECTED scrolls from different sects or tribes that originally came from the SUMERIAN ANCIENT HISTORY TEXTS. Abraham came from the land of Shumer {Sumeria}

I respect your belief system and I expect you also to respect mine and others in return.

All of the answers are not in the bible, only some clues. The information that you feel is proof positive has already been written about in many books referring to bible passages for at least decades. Nothing new here.

What I saw in your correspondence with Bill and Kerry is that you believe that you are a whistleblower and should be interviewed because you have all the answers from a Biblical Technical Perspective and your ELITE connections with the government.

Bill and Kerry are not looking for the answers for the forum or the site. They are just presenting the possibilities and we make the decision about what we want to make of the information given. Additionally, Kerry and Bill have a right to their opinions as well; and you are telling them that they are wrong.

Many people on this forum have had experiences that you cannot possibly conceive. Everyone is different; and Norval, you know what? This is the beauty of the human race. Try to see the beauty in others, just for a moment. When someone does disagree with you they could be right. Check it out. Maybe you both are right.

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Old 10-04-2008, 07:43 PM   #37
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Good afternoon, Norval

I hope you are having a nice Sabbath. I also observe the 7th day rest as explained in the old AND new testaments of the Bible. Your observations of the Bible is so far very similar to what I believe. Now from my understanding, we just entered the "Great Tribulation" this month, and we are about to go into a time period of great destruction, sorrow, and death as described in perfect detail in the Bible. Do you agree? Then after this time period of 3 1/2 years (plus a couple of months), we will enter into a new age. And you are right about the small remnant of people that are chosen to be the new government of this world for the new age. People here say that you are a "whistleblower." But are you
an Israelite (Seed of Abraham and child of Yahweh Elohim) and just trying not to be spiritual; because this is not a spiritual forum? Are you also awaiting the second coming of Yahushua? Thanks, I just wanted to clarify that information.

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Oh, I forgot to answer Norval's question from an earlier post in this thread. I believe that the priest who never retires is the High Priest. There are regular priests and then there is the High Priest. Sorry to say, but it's not the Pope. And if you guys want to know who it is...just read my previous post about the second coming.

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What about this guy.......

http://www.johntitor.com/

Click left "John Titor story"
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In answer to some PMs.

Which bible? Many online computer bibles are great.

hahaha! maybe bill n kerry should be interviewing you........!!!

The Gathering, , , Some of that is over in Camelot in the books, videos area.

Rustanddust got it. - who/what is Melchizedek? A priest that never retires.

is this worth chasing and researching after?
In my honest opinion, Yes, truth is worth it.
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Whoops, its about timetravel....
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Old 10-04-2008, 07:59 PM   #42
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There is a disclosure coming and all eyes will see it when it happens. Think of a ship that
is 1,500 miles big. Imagine the other ships that would come with the King of all the
Galaxies? You could call this "The New Age" understanding of the Bible. It will be soon
enough.
Are you refering to the 'October Event' (14/15/16th) by any chance?
I have not heard the title, 'Information, Acquisition + Control' agents
before. But I have 'studied' various members on another, more main-stream
forum, and it is obvious to me that they are 'fake members'. Plants.
And they are going at the October 14th event, hammer and tongue.
They are making huge efforts to put people off it, control the threads,
bury information etc. etc. I suppose they must be this IAC lot..?

Me and a handful of people have had a ridiculously hard time with
them. Their 'efforts' to disrupt and control have made me think, more
than ever there is something BIG going on re. the October business.
Is it just the coming together of the collective consciousness that
they 'fear', I wonder....or do they know that a huge craft is going
to come?

I, like many others, am getting energy rushes/strong feelings connected to Oct 14 etc.
What do you think...are we preparing ourselves for something
very significant...being prepared?

Thanks very much for your time and effort here. Much appreciated.

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Respectfully;
Is Camelot and Avalon up to the task of reporting what the bible's real message is?
Will I be up to the task of explaining it adequately and reasonably?
Norval L. Cunningham
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Well, I think/know that I'm up to the task of hearing it....but it's up to
you, if you want to give it a go...........
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Oh, I forgot to answer Norval's question from an earlier post in this thread. I believe that the priest who never retires is the High Priest. There are regular priests and then there is the High Priest. Sorry to say, but it's not the Pope. And if you guys want to know who it is...just read my previous post about the second coming.

-Phillip
What religion is this anyway? High priest?
 
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Norval,
Why are you refusing to answer my question?
I understand everything about the order of Melchizedek and Mary Eddy Baker.
Apparently, there is no point in discussing anything with you because your belief system says that you are superior.

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Give him chance...it's only been 4 minutes...lol.

edit to say....if it was your question in #43.
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Alexandra,

To clear things up, the High Priest I was referring to is Yahushua who is the High Priest after the order of Melchizedek. This is not a religion. All religions are manmade...designed to confuse people. Yes, there are some truths in some religions, but are very few. Mostly of the stuff in religions are disinformation. I'm a child of the Most High (YHWH, this is the true spelling of His name transliterated from Hebrew). If you read the book of Psalms, it does say "Yah" ("Jah" in the King James) in there. That's the first part of His true name.

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Norval,
Why are you refusing to answer my question?
I am just allowing you your right to beliefs as to how you see things.

Norval


Priest;
Instead of a religious possition, think of it as a possition in the Monarchy called the Kingdom of the Heavens, or Galaxies. Simple really.

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Norval

I have been reading some of your posts recently and I find them facinating ... I am not religious myself but have been searching for answers all my life. I stumbled across " The Kolbrin" years ago ... it is supposedly where the other religions and stories may have come from. If you have any knowledge on "The Kolbrin" it would be much appreciated .... the only thing I could find pertaining to it is at this website.

http://www.culdiantrust.org/


I have heard it discussed in length a few years ago on "Mysteries of the Mind" an internet show with Alex Merklinger with guest James Mccanney and have heard very little about it since. I cant access the shows archives to re listen to the show as the website is still up even though he has stopped broadcasting for years.

If anyone else has info on "The Kolbrin" it would be much appreciated..
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To Norval and Gale, and anyone else who is reading this:
This is not going to be a question, and it is not meant as a comment or debunk, it just represents my view of things today, i welcome any corrections, and all please feel free to be yourself on this one.

As when i have read many forums i always have seen the following occur, 1: Message, 2: ask for proof 3: after a while it is no longer about a message, it has become a conflict, devided into a few camps namely, the followers, the critics, the distancemakers (yes new word), the supporters, and the readers, and a few others.
Normally i like to be a reader. And sometimes i am a needed, that means i have an issue that i need to be lit by different opinions so that i can find my own way in my discovery of myself and my surroundings, such as this one.

Ok, here goes.

There is one thing and one thing alone that we must never forget, even with all the knowledge provided we must learn to create our own vision of understanding. eg. do you like ice because you learned it is nice or do you know what you want. or another one: if you believe strongly enough that you are sick, then you will be sick. Decide if you want to be projected upon.

We all function within our given parameters, by knowing your own parameters, you can use them, and (de) activate them.
Is a final battle interesting when you already know yourself? do you think the one who controles food really can control the masses when masses know who masses are? When everyone would know the real truth do you think that there is a fight?
Dark and light are only words to keep people in place, between words as in the bible or qran or any other holy book, the only thing that i have read is that we are all equal, and when we know ourselves and have faith in ourselves, the great devide stops and becomes one.
Is it important to know where we came from?, is that a part of who i am? i know where i came from, i am made of the same, "lets say particles", as all that is around me, therefore that makes me equal, therefore that makes me one, what holds us back is fear, and lack of understanding, we do refuse to understand because we fear. (as do i)

What will happen around us, with our limited knowledge of ourselves and therefore our limited knowledge of all that is around, that will happen, until we know better.
There is no balance, there just "is".

Anyway, It is only a good thing that we can learn more and more to help each other pushing along the way of waking up, i love to see people helping each other, i love to be helped, and i love to help. just keep in mind, we can help each other, but not become each other.
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Priest;
Instead of a religious possition, think of it as a possition in the Monarchy called the Kingdom of the Heavens, or Galaxies. Simple really.
Norval I do not believe in religions. They are hive mind control systems, in my opinion, of course. I am familiar with the cosmic hierarchy and all of it's councils. I also know that they do not promote superiority unless they are in service to self portions of this galaxy. When one has all of the answers there is no longer a need to be here to learn. Therefore, since you are still on this planet, I gather you are still a student. Good speed on your journey to the Creator of all that is not just the Order of Melchizedek.
 
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