A major new Camelot interview -- Bob Dean: The Coming of Nibiru

[Bill Ryan]

Hi, All:

http://projectcamelot.org/bob_dean.html

I'm not paranoid. I just pay attention.
Retired Command Sergeant Major Robert Dean

When we met with Bob Dean in May 2007, he stated that ours would be his last interview. After its publication, we received more mail - all of it generous and appreciative, without exception - than for any other interview we've ever done. We were therefore quite delighted when he agreed to talk with us on record once again.

When we asked Bob what he wanted to discuss, he told us that he had important news, from his own inside sources, about Nibiru: the highly controversial Planet X. This video contains extremely important information for all students of Planet X to consider.

True to form, Bob recounts other intriguing stories, including the NRO's classified discovery of "a goddamn boat" high on Mount Ararat, and confirmation of Henry Deacon's report that the Anunnaki are active on present-day Mars.

His humanity, his dignity, his integrity and his humor all shine once again in this new video, and we're very confident that everyone who so enjoyed Bob's 2007 interview with us will find this just as entertaining, interesting, and valuable.

Very best to all, Bill

[deepblu777]

Finally, I've been patiently waiting for this..

http://projectcamelot.org/bob_dean.html

Enjoy!

Thanks Kerry! Thanks Bill!

[Jenny]

merged threads.

[Avid]

What a wonderful interview - his closing message has left me in tears - so very moving and hopeful. Thank you Bob, Kerry and Bill - magnificent!

[JoMo]

Originally Posted by Avid

What a wonderful interview - his closing message has left me in tears - so very moving and hopeful. Thank you Bob, Kerry and Bill - magnificent!

I also thought the closing remarks were amazing. (I can't say I was in tears, I was close... )
Thank you Bob. I will be courageous, I will be hopeful, and I will love one and another. Thank you Bill and Kerry for sharing with us the magnificent interview.

"Get rid of the fear. You have nothing to fear..."

[Norval]

As I was asked by several posters to comment, ok here it is.


I liked the part about having nothing to worry about, and the blood in the streets.
So we are not to concern ourselves about the blood in the streets.

There was nothing new mentioned, at all.
It is the Japanese that have the JAXA craft taking pictures of the moon, not the Chinese.
Several other mistakes, hell, I took 4 pages of notes. His obvious biblical knowledge is
extensively lacking to say the least.

Just misdirection and disinformation I would have to agree
with those that say that.

[feeler]

This guy was giving credit to a bunch of Nazi.

"We certainly wouldn't have beaten the Russians"

The moon desert was lit only where the spot light was; there was absolutely no blast mark on the loose soil underneath the rocket engine exhaust. And you guys think he's telling the truth?

-feeler

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by feeler

This guy was giving credit to a bunch of Nazi.

"We certainly wouldn't have beaten the Russians"

-feeler

That is something what "intellectual limited" persons like you will never understand!

Wernher von Braun and his fellowship at first were scientists and not Nazis!
Of course they joined/had to join at a certain point in their lifes the the Nazi party (NSDAP). But millions of other Germans did the same. Because of 2 reasons:

1. they wanted to give a boost to their careers, similar to many people who join or sympathisize with the ruling parties of their country today. (Republicans/Democrats)

2. They were totally convinced that this is a good cause/ideology (fighting christianity-hating communism, fighting the depression and the great unemployment and fighting for the rebirth of a proud nation) they couldn't know what all this would affect 12 years in the future.
They were as keen as mustard for this new way/ideology, similar to all these young Obama-followers, who have such great hopes in him.
But they don't know either today if the situation will become better or worse with him in a few years.

So, you see, being a Nazi or Ex-Nazi (NSDAP-Member) does not mean that they were enbodied devils, mostly they were plain people.


And Bob Dean just mentioned that the USA wouln't have made it to the moon before the Soviets, if von Braun and his crew wouldn't have given a boost to the US-research.


That was no credit to Nazism, in no way!
Just a mention of the historical facts.

[feeler]

Originally Posted by King Lear

So, you see, being a Nazi or Ex-Nazi (NSDAP-Member) does not mean that they were enbodied devils, mostly they were plain people.

Plain people? What a Nazi sympathizer. Do you know the Nazi group included mind control specialists, interrogation specialists, and particle beam weapon specialists? Do you know it was illegal to bring them in to America? Do you know that was the starting point of the corruption/infiltration of the CIA? Do you realize we are heading towards a Nazi-style dictatorship? Do you know particle beam weapons were used to kill 3000 civilians on Sep 11?

Below, photo of a tower being dematerialized by particle beam weapons:

[freespirit]

Svalbard International Seed Vault wasn't built for fun, its a marker for times to come.

freespirit

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by feeler

Plain people? What a Nazi sympathizer.

Thanks for your kindness. So, just to mention that millions of NSDAP members were plain people and not blood drinking demons makes me a Nazi sympathizer. Thank you for you intolerance.

Not every NSDAP member was like Himmler, Heydrich or Hitler.
In this party were also physicians, teachers, loving mothers....

Not even the whole SS was responsible for the Holocaust, at least all supported the system, but actually working on the Holocaust were only 10,000 SS Members:
High ranks like Himmler and Heydrich and 10,000 men of the SS Division "Totenkopf" and the Einsatzgruppen (Task Squads) in the east.

The rest of the Waffen SS (former VT = Verfuegungs Truppe) were just a military elite force like the US Marines today, they mostly were at the front and not in any death camps.

The Waffen SS had in the middle of the war hundreds of thousands men and at the end it became a mass-army of 3 millions.
But all 3 million Waffen SS members are now blamed for the cruel deeds of 10,000 sickos and some insane politicians.
Even all 18 million Wehrmacht (German Army) members got blamed for the deeds of these 10,000.
And at the end, even all 80 million Germans got blamed for the deeds of this these 10,000.

(In Britain even today some people love to paraphrase Germans as "Nazis")

Imagine every single American gets now blamed for the deeds of some insane sick individuals in Abu Graib. Or for the insane politics of their last president.

Originally Posted by feeler

Do you know the Nazi group included mind control specialists, interrogation specialists, and particle beam weapon specialists?....Do you know particle beam weapons were used to kill 3000 civilians on Sep 11?

That's the same issue as the "Nazi Saucers" - BS.
If you give me hard proof - I'll believe you. I've no problem to admit a misapprehension.
But until you don't deliver the proof I've to say: weird esotheric BS.
Of course they thought about saucer-shaped planes, made some sketches and maybe some 1:1 models. But they never built real flying saucers.
Everything the US pilots saw were the jets they developed in the end phase of the war, like the Heinkel He 178, the Messerschmitt Me 262 and the Messerschmitt Me 163 „Komet“. The same with your "ominous" particle beam, maybe there were some ideas and plans for it, but nothing more.
If the Nazis would have possessed saucers and particle beams, wouldn't they have won the war?

Originally Posted by feeler

Do you know it was illegal to bring them in to America?

Yes, maybe. But the US wanted to gain their research results. They had to win a race against the Soviets, so they ****ted on the law. As the agencies always do. Is that new for you?

Originally Posted by feeler

Do you know that was the starting point of the corruption/infiltration of the CIA?

The corruption started much earlier. Maybe in 1776 when all the Freemasons came to power. Or in 1924 when Hoover created the FBI and ruled it till his death in 1972. (I know the FBI is not El CIAda, but you know what I mean)
Another starting point could have been 1913--> FED
Or 1941 when the war started.
Or 1947
But in no case a bunch of German scientists, of whom the most weren't able to speak English, could have started the corruption in El CIAda with some Jedi mind tricks.

Originally Posted by feeler

Do you realize we are heading towards a Nazi-style dictatorship?

What we are heading for is TOTALITARISM!!!
And that worldwide.
Stop only blaming Fascism and Nazism! They are only one side of the coin!
There were also Communism, Stalinism, Lenism, Marxism, Maoism and the Red Khmers.
Why do you always forget what Stalin did? Was he such a nice guy for you?
Are you maybe a "Commie sympathizer" (payback hehe)
Or what about Mao, who killed 46 millions of his own people?
Or Pol-Pot who killed over 2 millions of his small Cambodian nation?

Come to reality, all this dirt together is the same!
And it's called TOTALITARISM!

Stop blaming just a part of the criminal body!

[feeler]

Originally Posted by King Lear

Yes, maybe. But the US wanted to gain their research results. They had to win a race against the Soviets, so they ****ted on the law. As the agencies always do. Is that new for you?

Nothing new? Is that your "moral justification" for you to accept bringing in a bunch of psychopaths (i.e. mind control specialists, interrogation specialists, and particle beam weapon specialists) into the CIA to further corrupt the perhaps already corrupted CIA?

You, a self-proclaimed 9/11 truther, obviously failed to relate the 9/11 false flag operation to the staged Reichstag fire, the Prescott-Bush-Nazi link, and the advanced particle beam weaponry (due in part to the Nazi "researchers") deployed to destroy the twin towers, resulting in 3000 civilian deaths.

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by feeler

Nothing new? Is that your "moral justification" for you to accept bringing in a bunch of psychopaths (i.e. mind control specialists, interrogation specialists, and particle beam weapon specialists) into the CIA to further corrupt the perhaps already corrupted CIA?

Before i accept such ridiculous claims I need some proofs of you feeler!
Zorgon claimed something - but he also delivered some documents I can study - YOU only claim!

Originally Posted by feeler

You, a self-proclaimed 9/11 truther, obviously failed to relate the 9/11 false flag operation to the staged Reichstag fire, the Prescott-Bush-Nazi link, and the advanced particle beam weaponry (due in part to the Nazi "researchers") deployed to destroy the twin towers, resulting in 3000 civilian deaths.

The only similarity between 9/11 and the burnt Reichstag is: that both administrations profited from it - nothing more.

Historic science till today admits that there is no evidence that the Nazis burnt the Reichstag. Historic science only says that they PROFITED of it.
Till today historic science says it was the mentally retarded Communist Marius van der Lubbe!

So, what do YOU really know about the Reichstag?

For example, someone like David Wilcock (with a college degree) said in his last interview: The Nazis "bombed" the Reichstag and "that it is admitted".
Ridiculous.

That comes out if someone does not really study history and just takes the headlines or refers to some wrong informations.

[feeler]

Originally Posted by King Lear

Before i accept such ridiculous claims I need some proofs of you feeler!
Zorgon claimed something - but he also delivered some documents I can study - YOU only claim!



The only similarity between 9/11 and the burnt Reichstag is: that both administrations profited from it - nothing more.

Historic science till today admits that there is no evidence that the Nazis burnt the Reichstag. Historic science only says that they PROFITED of it.
Till today historic science says it was the mentally retarded Communist Marius van der Lubbe!

So, what do YOU really know about the Reichstag?

And what do you know about Reichstag? Obviously you seem ready to believe the “lone gun man,” the “lone anthrax mailer,” and in this case the “lone arsonist,” who was legally blind.

Sure, you can see the “administrations” but failed to see the Nazi running them.

I am not Zorgon. Documents will not help you see the whole truth unless you drop your selective memory/thinking.

-feeler

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by feeler

And what do you know about Reichstag? Obviously you seem ready to believe the “lone gun man,” the “lone anthrax mailer,” and in this case the “lone arsonist,” who was legally blind.

Sure, you can see the “administrations” but failed to see the Nazi running them.

I am not Zorgon. Documents will not help you see the whole truth unless you drop your selective memory/thinking.

-feeler

Don't understand what you mean by the first part of your reply.

And the rest...
I feel sorry for you, because you seem to be ideologically blinded.

(you always will only see the right arm and ignore the rest of the body, i.e. you transform the right arm to the whole body)

[feeler]

Originally Posted by King Lear

Don't understand what you mean by the first part of your reply.

And the rest...
I feel sorry for you, because you seem to be ideologically blinded.

(you always will only see the right arm and ignore the rest of the body, i.e. you transform the right arm to the whole body)

And you always will only see the body ("administrations") without being able to see the spirit (i.e. Nazi ideology) inside.


-feeler

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by feeler

And you always will only see the body ("administrations") without being able to see the spirit (i.e. Nazi ideology) inside.


-feeler

but the body does not symbolize the administrations
spirit? so communism and capitalism has a nazi spirit ideology?!?

Man, that's sooo weird.





And all that started with someone accusing the good-hearted
Bob Dean for giving credit to Nazism. Unbelievable.

Bob is such a decent person.

[RSF]

Originally Posted by king lear

but the body does not symbolize the administrations
Spirit? So communism and capitalism has a nazi spirit ideology?!?

Man, that's sooo weird.





And all that started with someone accusing the lovely
bob dean giving credit to nazism. Unbelievable.

He's such a decent person.

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hah ?
Rsf

[omshanti]

actually, my first post...
i so greatly enjoy listening to the interviews on proj cam...the diverse range of opinions...strategic "disinformation"- yes i agree, bob is likeable...warm and so on...
but it concerns me when people write of his unwavering integrity. in this interview he even admitted lying to kerry! - and, as many pointed out,..there really is no new info- even his closing words, although beautifully poetic (and a philosophy that greatly resonates with moi) nothing new....
for me the session was about three people genuinely likeing eachother. respect. goodwill. love. nothing wrong with that eh..!@

[pilot]

When did he admit to lying to Kerry? I guess I missed that.

The only thing that concerns me about whistle blowers who appear on the PC videos is that if they are being "allowed" to leak this information, then is it reliable? If we really aren't "supposed" to know, then we would not-they would never come forward, and if they did it would be the end of them.

Think of how many people have been permanently silenced for much less.

None of the people on PC SEEM to be in fear for their lives, so I assume they are sanctioned by some force to speak.

It is confusing and makes me want to cancel my cable. That way I'd be forced to rely on my own intuition more, and not all these expert whistleblowing insiders ...

the subjects they are discussing are out of most of our control-
all we can do is prepare and hope.

Certainly not waste precious time quibbling semantics with internet trolls who like to pick ridiculous arguments.

(Who ever responds will prove that they are who I refer to)

[feeler]

Originally Posted by King Lear

And all that started with someone accusing the lovely
Bob Dean giving credit to Nazism. Unbelievable.

He's such a decent person.

He acts and talks like an Illuminati promoting the NWO ("a One World Government"). Paraphrasing here: It's all good. It's all good. We are just having some "growing pain."

Wait a minute. Can anyone with a conscience call "water boarding" in Guantanamo Bay "growing pain?"

CLARIFICATION: NWO <> One World Government (i.e. not the same)

I just now finished page 125-127 of Bob's wife's book which provided the clarification. My apology.

Originally Posted by King Lear

That was no credit to Nazism, in no way!
Just a mention of the historical facts.

You say that... and you have this in your signature..



Forgive me if I am confused.

Von Braun did change his tune later in his career... He quit NASA because he was against arming space..

But he was not just an ordinary citizen... he built weapons of mass destruction and had no qualms about how they were being used... And when he came to America... he built weapons of mass destructions for us... long before he went to NASA... he built the ICBM's




After the war, 118 German rocket scientists worked together at Fort Bliss, Texas.
(U.S. ARMY AVIATION AND MISSILE COMMAND)


Operation Paper Clip brought 580 Nazi scientist over here..

Intelligence and government officials faced a delicate moral quandary in 1945—whether it was worth it to give American homes to men who had invented weapons to kill American soldiers, men who in some cases subscribed to beliefs that hundreds of thousands Americans had died to eradicate. In the end they decided it was, if these men could help the United States defeat the Soviets.

—Christine Gibson is a former editor at American Heritage magazine.

American Heritage Magazine

[Knightbk]

Until somebody can prove Aliens exist to me, I wont believe it.

That being said, I agree about his Economic view, which is that it will be "difficulty", not cataclysmic with people dying left and right.

[King Lear]

Originally Posted by zorgon

You say that... and you have this in your signature..



Forgive me if I am confused.

I forgive you What's wrong with my signature? Do you doubt that 9/11 was an insidejob?
I don't know what exactly happened on that day, but I assure you the official report is the real conspiracy theory.
And I think you would agree about that.

That is not contrary to any historical facts I mention here.

Originally Posted by zorgon

Von Braun did change his tune later in his career... He quit NASA because he was against arming space..

But he was not just an ordinary citizen... he built weapons of mass destruction and had no qualms about how they were being used... And when he came to America... he built weapons of mass destructions for us... long before he went to NASA... he built the ICBM's

After the war, 118 German rocket scientists worked together at Fort Bliss, Texas.
(U.S. ARMY AVIATION AND MISSILE COMMAND)

Operation Paper Clip brought 580 Nazi scientist over here..

That I can explain to you:
von Braun always dreamed for a lunar flight. Even in his childhood.
He made sketches and plans long before the Nazis seized power.

But then they came to power, and he was in the right age to fulfill his dreams - we shall not forget the Nazi movement was a highly modern movement! - Hitler was the first politician who flew from campaign-speech to campaign-speech by plane.
They massively used the radio - they made a mass medium out of it - they even supported the developement of the TV and the first live broadcasting in 1936! And so on and so forth...

And that attracted von Braun, he thought that now his time has come for developing a lunar flight.
Till this moment (pre-1939) for most Germans the Nazi-movement wasn't really a negative thing - they thought they would bring them progress, especially the annihilation of the great unemployment was important for them.
They never guessed that a war would come, not in 1938 and not even in early 1939.

You can read it in old newspaper articles of British and American reporters of this time, where they described: "There's no nation on earth who is such war-reluctant as the Germans, they just enjoy their economical recovery."

But then - WHAM - the war came.
And also von Braun had to show allegiance to the system, for example by entering the party.
And there's a term called: "rally around the flag (in hard times)" Especially Brits are very familiar to this term.

"Right or wrong - it's my country"

And at least von Braun was a German and he did what he could do to support his country - and that was to build rockets.
Of course that was terrible for the people in England - but what could he do about it? - he had to do it.

As Bomber Harris and his RAF pilots had to bomb hundreds of thousands of Germans to ashes - it was war.

In fact there are on both sides war criminals, but at the end only the loser gets accused.


And when the war ended, what should von Braun do? Germany was ruined and he was not a convinced Nazi but a Anti-Communist. Especially because he said to himself "Never again a totalitarian movement like the Nazis shall rule over Europe again".
Because he saw the result of that with his own eyes.

And Stalin and his Communists for him were the 2nd totalitarian force who could bomb Europe - maybe the whole world - to ashes again.

And so he choosed the Americans, because they were the big Anti-Communistic power back then.

And so at first he had again to show his allegiance to them by building ICBMs and taking the American citizenship - it was the Cold War!

But he never lost his paramount goal out of sight - the lunar flight!
And only at the end of his life it was granted to him to work on this paramount goal - the lunar flight.

And that was for the whole human kind. Earlier in his life he always was abused by leaders and world powers.


And today?
There are some smartass people who read 5 pages of some books related to him, where they read 2 words "Wernher von Braun" and "Nazi" and then they think that they are in the know and have to propagate it to others.

And the same procedure with the rest of the 580 "Nazi" scientists.
Nazi=German? Be honest folks!

[PodWORLD]

Just a little aside.

Von Braun took a lead from the Robert Goddard the father of american rocketry who lived and worked from 1930 - 1942 in...Roswell New Mexico.

King Lear is absolutely correct. Peoples knowledge of WW2 is very often thin at best. I wondered as a child why the allies never bombed the train tracks to at least slow the concentration camp process down. Then you become more informed and realise how complex and dirty the whole business really was. Read Rabbi Weissmandel's ten questions for zionism here.

http://www.nkusa.org/Historical_Docu...nquestions.cfm