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Old 10-15-2008, 07:55 PM   #151
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Some marks in our solar system on several surfaces look like energy weapons of a couple different kinds, lasers?, plasma? We don't know, but it looks like high energy stuff was used.
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Old 10-15-2008, 09:49 PM   #152
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Greetings Norval et all,

I wanted to jump in a quick moment to thank you and those that are staying on track in this forum. I know it is difficult to stay on course with the misleading entries and all. You are providing a wealth of information to us all...I as I am sure most am grateful for the time you spend here educating us.

Thanks Norval!
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Old 10-15-2008, 10:12 PM   #153
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Some marks in our solar system on several surfaces look like energy weapons of a couple different kinds, lasers?, plasma? We don't know, but it looks like high energy stuff was used.
A few videos you might want to check out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTylo5g0aHQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NEHZS3IcAA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzMucFjcKV0
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...35651090748119
http://video.google.com.au/videoplay...90301316220374
And these sites
http://www.jmccanneyscience.com/
http://www.holoscience.com/news.php
Rumor has it Nov. 15 is going to be a day to remember; you might want to set sail towards open water
http://www.barry.warmkessel.com/barry/2008impact.html
http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=7026
My elders are debating whether its Pacific or Atlantic impact I feel it won’t matter probability is if a meteorite 1.4 by 1 Km strikes EQs will be the world over.
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Old 10-16-2008, 12:46 AM   #154
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Shown in this picture besides the very scared surface is what looks like a river bed cutting across
the image. While not a river bed it has scientists some what puzzled as to what may have caused
it. The half circle in the middle of the image is also puzzling them. Then there is the Concise and
Systematic crater chain running along the top part of the half circle which the powers that be want
you to think was caused by a broken up chunk of space rock as in asteroid or comet.

With what the bible says about the war in the heavens and what our astronomers and others saw,
besides the known capabilities of our own weapons systems, we can understand what some of
those super weapons would be like to cause a CS crater chain such as this. With the
understanding that this is a known pattern from our own smaller automatic weapons it can stagger
one to think of such weapons that could cause craters such as these.

Was it atomics from a rapid fire system? Precisely guided rapid fire missile systems? Possibly a
pulse fire of some kind of high energy weapon? What is known and agreed upon by most of the
research scientists and us is that these craters in these chains happened in very fast sequence,
almost simultaneously. There is very little fall back of the ejected material from one crater into the
next crater in the chain. Possibly a plasma weapon melted that half circle and river bed like area,
we are asking more questions too.

What we have to ask next is where did all these resources come from for this war?
We think we may have the answer for that question also from more NASA pictures.

For more of the story and dimensions go here.
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA01087
Norval L. Cunningham
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Old 10-16-2008, 12:48 AM   #155
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Can someone tell me how to upload a photo on a forum please.
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Can someone tell me how to upload a photo on a forum please.
When you reply, look for the paper clip up there next to redo/undo arrow buttons.
Click on it.
A new window pops up and allows to browse and do the upload of the image you select from your hard drive.

Then, next time you use the image, just click next to paper clip -drop down arrow, and your list of images will appear for you -to select from.

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I believe since we have an ELectric Universe, that the weapons used are plasma types.

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Can someone tell me how to upload a photo on a forum please.
sorry off topic,

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There are other signs of war that go along with multiple in line craters. Craters within craters.
These are craters that show more than one strike in the same location. Such as this one. There are
many others that even have craters within craters within craters.

Dual crater with in a crater.



From this page,
http://www.lpod.org/coppermine/displ...lbum=42&pos=13
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Why is it that you (Norval/Gale) dismiss the E.U. arcing theory?
To me it explains every photo you have posted perfectly well.

Don't get me wrong though.
I do agree the bible is describing encounters with ET's, and mirrors the myths and legends of many other cultures in this way.
I also don't discount the idea of ancient wars in space, etc. I think the ancient gods and angels were really the ET's...

I just don't see a single thing in this thread that can't be explained by the Electric Universe model. The Thunderbolts 'Picture of the Day' articles routinely address pictures like these, along with an explanation of their link to ancient spirituality.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/00archive.htm


BTW is this your site?
http://www.bibleufo.com/index.htm
If not it is very similar to your ideas (without the space war stuff), making a Bible/UFO connection without specific religious claims...
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Old 10-18-2008, 09:38 PM   #160
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Why is it that you (Norval/Gale) dismiss the E.U. arcing theory?
To me it explains every photo you have posted perfectly well.
The big bang theory explains the creation of the universe - but it isn't true.

The theory of evolution explains human life - but it isn't true.
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Old 10-19-2008, 10:00 AM   #161
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There are other signs of war that go along with multiple in line craters. Craters within craters...
They're called Bulls-eye craters too. Here's some more info with further examples: http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...23bullseye.htm
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Here's some more info on Crater chains, specifically the example shown early in this thread:
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...0825crater.htm

Also some other examples:
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...leancrater.htm
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Here's some more examples of interplanetary scarring:
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...s-scarring.htm
...and how such things would have appeared to the ancient people's:
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...12scarface.htm
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This image of Iapetus is borrowed from Richard Hoagland’s report shows the ridge up close. The ridge is 20-kilometer wide (12 miles), peak of the ridge reaches at least 13 kilometers (8 miles) above the surrounding terrain, roughly 1,300 kilometer (800 mile) in length, almost exactly parallel to the equator. What is unique is the concise and systematic crater chains running along the very top of the ridge.

For just 13 strikes in a row the odds of that is virtually impossible. If you were a betting person you would win all the lotteries but to run crater chains precisely along the top ridge is phenomenal.
Here's some more info on Iaeputus and it's strange ridge, which would also explain why there would be such crater-chaining aligned precisely along the top of the ridge:
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...418iapetus.htm
Also:
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...etusrising.htm
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Old 10-19-2008, 11:37 AM   #165
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Strange ray like scars on mercury.

Mercury-The planet Mercury has been known since history has been recorded, but parts of the Solar System's innermost planet have never been seen like this before. Two days ago the robotic MESSENGER spacecraft buzzed past Mercury for the second time and imaged terrain mapped previously only by comparatively crude radar. The above image was recorded as MESSENGER looked back 90 minutes after passing, from an altitude of about 27,000 kilometers. Visible in the above image, among many other newly imaged features, are unusually long rays that appear to run like meridians of longitude out from a young crater near the northern limb. MESSENGER is scheduled to fly past Mercury once more before firing its thrusters to enter orbit in 2011.
courtesy: Astronomy picture of the day.
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Old 10-20-2008, 12:48 AM   #166
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Monkey,
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"Why is it that you (Norval/Gale) dismiss the E.U. arcing theory?"
That was answered quite awhile ago, if you had bothered to read the thread, and our answer is
still sticking to us. Posting #34
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"I also don't discount the idea of ancient wars in space, etc. I think the ancient gods and angels
were really the ET's..."
That comment would be classed misdirection for these reasons. This final war that was fought, in
which our astronomers witnessed Mars being destroyed, was very recent, not ancient. Also that
these so called gods ARE the ETs, not were the ETs. You also may want to take note that the
EU and thunderbolts came along a couple years after Gale and I submitted our research to
NASA. Thus we think it is mostly misdirection and disinformation. As did many other sites.
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"BTW is this your site?"
No
As the premise of this thread states, of which, again, you have failed to read the thread, is about
the bibles explanation of these oddities in our solar system that point to war as the most
reasonable answer and not some happenstance electrical discharge. And, for sure not some
fanciful "spiritualistic" ideology or philosophy. Thank you.
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When it comes to war it is the aftermath that hits the people the hardest. After that war in our
solar system and the defeated bad ETs thrown down to the earth, we have this to think about.



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Re: The Search for Truth - Amnesty or Vengeance?

The Search for Truth - Amnesty or Vengeance?

Quote:
Kerry said;
"Whether "the people" are able to forgive them, and limit vengeance will be partially due
to projects like ours that began to reveal the truth to the people."
And,
"... Some may not be so generous."

Many have heard this;
"Vengeance is mine," says the Lord, "I will repay."
Understanding that this is the King of all the Galaxies speaking, coming to take
vengeance, deliver the oppressed, puts that message and this topic in a different light
altogether.

Because of what has happened to friends, loved ones, and ones involved in this research,
I, for one, would love to take vengeance into my own hands. I will not though, but I do
fervently hope that I will be chosen to help in the delivery of that vengeance that is coming
upon all those that have harmed mankind and didn't want Jesus to become King and
killed him once. Yes, King Jesus is returning, (has returned from the looks of our solar
system), and with an attitude. We can no more stop, nor alter, that vengeance than we
can, or have stopped, corruption here

This is a post that I would have preferred not to make, yet it needed to be said.

For some it will be a "doom and gloom" post while for others it will mean "deliverance
and exhilaration". This is a "whistle blower" testimony about a finished message from ET,
the bible, that has been in our hands now for two thousand years.

Religionocity and demonocracy have no place in a monarchy.
The technology of the bad ET’s / fallen angels is just fools play compared to what is
coming.

Sincerely
Norval L. Cunningham Where's the "whistle blower one?
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Old 10-20-2008, 09:57 PM   #168
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I started this during the evacuations;
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage198106/pg1
there's no sun spots because forces en route too and fro are no more; just waiting for the show and collection when its time. Care to explain why Sumerian cylinders are the origin of all religious texts we have today; and why do you consider this whistle blower stuff, its pretty evident false gods from Orion and drac have been warring since the start of this cycle when the reps came from an unknown Galaxy and started the war in Lyra. No I haven t read this thread cant get by the constant referral to false documents you make every post. See VA 243 depicts a false god dictating what we know as the bible. How do you expect to find the answers with half the info. I read when I feel something
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And the war continues, , , , now as an information war, against the disinformation and misdirection and misinformation, , hehe heh heh
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Pot calling the kettle black brother
Ever heard the saying “you reap what you sow”
Instead of stringing everyone along why don’t you just get to the punch line and tell us when to expect Earth’s invasion
Reality is the invasion happened 450,000 years ago and as always when light enters a dark place the dark flees that’s why I pointed out the evacuation “ufo war over popo” at glp
This thread is nothing more than a false ET invasion Promo
A Picture is worth a thousand words
see link
http://www.bible-history.com/links.p...Art+%26+Images
Mystery of Sumerian civilization
http://knol.google.com/k/alexey-tsei.../11?locale=en#
Earth's Ancient History
http://www.earth-history.com/Babylon...ereshkigal.htm
Ancient Sumeria
Primary Author: Robert A. Guisepi
http://history-world.org/sumeria.htm
The Sumerian King List records all the rulers of Earth back over 400,000 years
http://www.crystalinks.com/sumerhistory.html
http://www.crystalinks.com/sumergods.html
E.Vegh
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45starg...dex.html#books

http://www.sacred-texts.com/index.htm
Question When you started this thread and in the first few entries state your not religious and then you state on the following Saturday that you won’t post because it’s the Sabbath?
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Another Warning

Avebury Down, nr Avebury, Wiltshire. Reported 28th September.



http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2...ydown2008.html

Australian Scientist Comments On “Digital Barcode”

September 28, 2008 email to Earthfiles: “The new cross in maize on September 28, 2008, appears at first glance to be authentic, and shows a ‘barcode signature’ off to one side. It might be ASCII, since its first few digits (reading left to right, standing near the cross) look like 00100000, which was a ‘word spacer’ in the Crabwood message: [ See 081902 Earthfiles about alien face in Winchester wheat and 081902EarthfilesUpdate about code analysis.]

01 (start)
01000010S (B)
01100101S (e)
01110111S (w)
01100001S (a)
01110010S (r)
01100101S (e)
00100000S (space) ”

FOR MORE INFO SEE EARTHFILES http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?I...ry=Environment

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You also may want to take note that the
EU and thunderbolts came along a couple years after Gale and I submitted our research to
NASA. Thus we think it is mostly misdirection and disinformation. As did many other sites.
As I gather you have been with Gale 7 years?
The Electric Universe has been in theory since at least the 70's, with others suspecting the same, back to Velikovsky and Tesla...

Regarding post 34, which I had read but saw that someone else had answered, it assumes arcing is stopped by distance and vacuum...?
Except the EU model shows the Universe is not just a vacuum:

"Mainstream science, for the most part, looks on the universe as electrically neutral and purely mechanical; a place where the weak force of gravity holds fort. Plasma Cosmology, by contrast, acknowledges the electrodynamic nature of the universe. Gravity and inertia are NOT the only forces at work.

...Plasma sometimes emits light when under the excitation of electrical and magnetic fields. Polar auroras bear witness to this fact.

...Plasma is almost everywhere. At least ninety-nine percent of the known universe is, in fact, matter in its plasma state!

...Because plasma remains electrically charged in space, it is influenced more by electromagnetic forces than gravity. In fact space, once considered mostly empty, has been found to be alive with plasma. Vast flows of charged particles have been discovered spanning hundreds-of-thousands of light years across interstellar space.

...Plasma is an excellent conductor of electricity. Because of its free-flowing electrons its conductive properties far surpass those of copper and gold."

http://www.plasmacosmology.net/

http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...olidplasma.htm
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...050503eu-1.htm


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That comment would be classed misdirection for these reasons. This final war that was fought, in which our astronomers witnessed Mars being destroyed, was very recent, not ancient. Also that these so called gods ARE the ETs, not were the ETs.
It's not misdirection on my part. I'm not saying the ET's that were witnessed in ancient times are all gone, never to return. Indeed I think they are still around. They still 'were', as in 'in those days', the one's responsible for gifting certain technologies, as characters like Oannes, the fallen Watchers, etc.

However I think the 'wars' that were witnessed were plasma phenomena, along with planetary movements as described by Velikovsky, etc. That it was planetary collisions (or near misses) that produced the wreckage of Marduk as the Asteroid field, Phobos, Daemos, the scar on Mars, the shifting of Earth's orbit/axis, and so on.

These close passes of huge bodies in the solar system would have caused major electric arcing between themselves, causing not only the scars seen today but being interpreted as wars of the gods, cosmic serpents, etc.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...s-rock-art.htm
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...n-rock-art.htm
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...-mythology.htm
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...513serpent.htm


Coinciding with mega-floods (as the earth's oceans spilled across continets), earthquakes and volcanoes, these times would certainly be recorded in myths and legends.
When combined with the actual contacts with ET's, as recorded by Sumerians, Egyptians, etc, you later get books like the bible (compiled from those two cultures during the two 'captivities' of the 'Israelites', and also mixed with native Canaanite stories).
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...nderbolt-1.htm

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...However I think the 'wars' that were witnessed were plasma phenomena, along with planetary movements as described by Velikovsky, etc. That it was planetary collisions (or near misses) that produced the wreckage of Marduk as the Asteroid field, Phobos, Daemos, the scar on Mars, the shifting of Earth's orbit/axis, and so on.

These close passes of huge bodies in the solar system would have caused major electric arcing between themselves, causing not only the scars seen today but being interpreted as wars of the gods, cosmic serpents, etc...
Here's a great little extract from Plato's 'History of Atlantis'

Plato's grandfather, Solon, questioned the priests in Egypt about early history.
Sonchis of Sais answers:

"…one of the priests, who was of very great age; said, 'O Solon, Solon, you Hellenes are but children, and there is never an old man who is an Hellene.'

Solon, bearing this, said, 'What do you mean?'

'I mean to say,' he replied, 'that in mind you are all young; there is no old opinion handed down among you by ancient tradition, nor any science which is hoary with age. And I will tell you the reason of this: there have been, and there will be again, many destructions of mankind arising out of many causes.

There is a story which even you have preserved, that once upon a time Phaëthon, the son of Helios, having yoked the steeds in his father's chariot, because he was not able to drive them in the path of his father, burnt up all that was upon the earth, and was himself destroyed by a thunderbolt.

Now, this has the form of a myth, but really signifies a declination of the bodies moving around the earth and in the heavens, and a great conflagration of things upon the earth recurring at long intervals of time: when this happens, those who live upon the mountains and in dry and lofty places are more liable to destruction than those who dwell by rivers or on the sea-shore; and from this calamity the Nile, who is our never-failing savior, saves and delivers us.

When, on the other hand, the gods purge the earth with a deluge of water, among you herdsmen and shepherds on the mountains are the survivors, whereas those of you who live in cities are carried by the rivers into the sea; but in this country neither at that time nor at any other does the water come from above on the fields, having always a tendency to come up from below, for which reason the things preserved here are said to be the oldest. The fact is, that wherever the extremity of winter frost or of summer sun does not prevent, the human race is always increasing at times, and at other times diminishing in numbers. And whatever happened either in your country or in ours, or in any other region of which we are informed - if any action which is noble or great, or in any other way remarkable has taken place, all that has been written down of old, and is preserved in our temples;

Whereas you and other nations are just being provided with letters and the other things which States require; and then, at the usual period, the stream from heaven descends like a pestilence, and leaves only those of you who are destitute of letters and education; and thus you have to begin all over again as children, and know nothing of what happened in ancient times, either among us or among yourselves.

As for those genealogies of yours which you have recounted to us, Solon, they are no better than the tales of children; for, in the first place, you remember one deluge only, whereas there were many of them; and, in the next place, you do not know that there dwelt in your land the fairest and noblest race of men which ever lived, of whom you and your whole city are but a seed or remnant.

And this was unknown to you, because for many generations the survivors of that destruction died and made no sign. For there was a time, Solon, before that great deluge of all, when the city which now is Athens was first in war, and was preeminent for the excellence of her laws, and is said to have performed the noblest deeds, and to have had the fairest constitution of any of which tradition tells, under the face of heaven.'

Solon marvelled at this, and earnestly requested the priest to inform him exactly and in order about these former citizens. 'You are welcome to hear about them, Solon,' said the priest, 'both for your own sake and for that of the city; and, above all, for the sake of the goddess who is the common patron and protector and educator of both our cities. She founded your city a thousand years before ours, receiving from the Earth and Hephæstus the seed of your race, and then she founded ours, the constitution of which is set down in our sacred registers as 8000 years old."

- continues into the famous story of Atlantis...
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Australian Scientist Comments On “Digital Barcode”

September 28, 2008 email to Earthfiles: “The new cross in maize on September 28, 2008, appears at first glance to be authentic, and shows a ‘barcode signature’ off to one side. It might be ASCII, since its first few digits (reading left to right, standing near the cross) look like 00100000, which was a ‘word spacer’ in the Crabwood message: [ See 081902 Earthfiles about alien face in Winchester wheat and 081902EarthfilesUpdate about code analysis.]

01 (start)
01000010S (B)
01100101S (e)
01110111S (w)
01100001S (a)
01110010S (r)
01100101S (e)
00100000S (space) ”

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Balance to ALL
Hi Wolf, what are you trying to say? Beware space? We know that from the crop circles, what do you mean?
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:08 PM   #175
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Default Re: Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale

As a clinical researcher my job is to throw out fresh ideas for others to mull over. The latest idea that has come to my attention is that we may actually be existing in a "pocket universe", not the actual physical universe, but a pocket of it which has a radius of about 1.3 lightyears. Now, who would want to do a thing like that? And why?
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