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07-20-2009, 10:34 AM | #1 |
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Custers last stand???
Financial collapse in US? World?
THE PTB are desperate... Will they fail with the coming forced vaccinations to save there ****'s.... Are we now heading towards an inevitable financial collapse by the end of september?? If this is so, UK would follow shortly and many other countries. Obama has been trying to beg steal and borrow throughout the world.. As Fulford states and many others he has had a resounding Was this his last ditch attempt to muster up some goodies to buy some more time and avoid the inevitable? And if all the other countries have turned him down... NOW WHAT??? Well it looks like the Flu problem has come along just in time!!! Vaccine and all... Financial collapse ... Ohhhhh but thats not the reason we are introducing MARSHALL LAW?? Ah ah.. The FLU pandemic?!!! YEAH right !!! " Let us contemplate the day in the near future when the consequences of financial chicanery finally outpace the ability of the governments, central banks and big media to cover up and obfuscate the truth. Many respected voices have now gone on record that September 30 or thereabouts will be that day." "Benjamin Fulford [http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/] states that for almost a century the US Treasury Dept has been issuing specialized debt instruments to countries with which the US has had a trade surplus. These complex debt instruments are tailored by complex treaties. Unfortunately, the recent US Treasury funding needs exceed the willingness of these creditor nations to extend additional credit. Fulford writes, "The problem is that after nearly a century of issuing these debt instruments, the chickens are coming home to roost. President Obama tried at the recent G8 plus 5 meeting in Italy to borrow more money than George Bush junior did in 8 years. He was told a resounding no. The result should be total economic chaos in the U.S. by September 30th . " Don't take the Vaccine!!! further reading http://www.henrymakow.com/perhaps_we...epare_for.html viking |
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Hi Viking,
What is interesting is that US Embassies throughout the world are being advised to purchase a years supply of local currency..... quietly! This info came from multiple trustworthy sources from your link. What does this mean? I appears that the US knows that the US$ will not only go south, it will be smitten, even to be valued worthless and it will take around a year to come up with a solution, as the embassies are stocking up with local money to keep the institution running over this time. This is heavy stuff. Now we at least can see some direction..... Best regards, Steve Quote:
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07-20-2009, 03:34 PM | #3 |
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Did you guys listen to the Bill Deagle interview on Camelot? I believe he said the Chinese have been given technology in return for continuing to buy U.S. Treasuries.
Am I making any sense? Will the dollar still collapse? |
07-20-2009, 03:59 PM | #4 |
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Hi Steve
Thanks for your input....much appreciated. Is this really Custer's last stand! I suppose we will know sooner or later, the date is just around the corner! ----- Yes I picked up on that as well Seashore...not sure though... I am sure the chinese have connection's with the Ruskies...and I don't think there technology is old hat!!!... Time will tell... viking |
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07-20-2009, 08:22 PM | #6 |
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07-21-2009, 12:27 AM | #7 |
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They are definitely using health care to side step this very issue. Universal health care is our first step towards NWO. Tell the world to say NO!
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07-21-2009, 02:01 PM | #9 | |
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It seems that in the event we are going to really be starting over from scratch building a new world, that's what we're going to need the most... And we may need to be providing for others as well as ourselves... |
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07-21-2009, 02:29 PM | #10 |
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I'm kind of leaning with Seashore, If your not of person of a substantial net worth of cash wealth, what does it really matter how much gold/ silver you have . To me also you need to make it thru this even if you did want to cash in eventually and last I checked gold and silver don't mix with milk ?? Food and Protection means along with your basics.
In the small town I live in 50% of the population there don't have the means to stock up and gold and silver won't mean much if they didn't eat for 5 days and there sitting on a table was a sandwich and a bar of gold. Hmmmmm what would the choice be? This week our treasury secretary Timmy Turbo Tax Geitner is running around the world trying to get countries to buy more U.S, debt. Wonder what the sales pitch will be this week?? 2 1/2 months til the end of september, I know team avalon is on it so will just see. |
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Thank you for your posting Viking
This is really hitting home hard |
08-03-2009, 11:17 AM | #12 |
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This is a some email exchange views on the New Banking system....
Are we heading towards the new Banking system by the end of Sept?? Message: Dear Patrick, I haven\'t written to you for awhile, but have a question that I thought maybe you could answer for me. My husband went into one of the local Suntrust Banks and asked if they were expecting Treasury Dollars and the Asst. Mgr said yes we expect them anyday. He also asked her if they were Basil 3 compliant and her answer was yes we have to be. He said that he had heard that alot of the bigger banks were not Basil 3 compliant and she said that she had heard the same thing. He also went into Wachovia Bank and asked the same questions and they didn\'t even know what he was talking about in regards to either Treasury Dollars and had never even heard of Basil 3. Some other people that we talked to said that they had also talked to some of their banks and were told that the Treasury Dollars were coming in but that they would not be the first to get them. What do you make of this are we finally seeing the end of the Fed, I pray that it is so? Please let me know w! hat you think of all of this, as he had been asking banks for the last 8 months and this is the first time that someone actually gave him a positive answer. Go in peace. Thank you JD (Response) FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer TO: JD DATE: July 30, 2009 SUBJECT: Reply Dear JD: Your letter brings good news and confirmation of what we know. Those banks with a gold charter are ready for the new system. Many larger banks are refusing to cooperate and have not told their employees of the coming changes. The plan is for the Federal Reserve to be terminated by the end of the present U.S. Government's fiscal year of September 30, 2009. Any bank not having a gold charter and not compliant with Basel III will be closed. Most of the larger banks appear to be in that situation. They still think they can stand against the tide of the Global banking change. In Love and Light, Patrick H. Bellringer bellringer@fourwinds10.com www.fourwinds10.com #1 (Reply) ----- Original Message ----- From: LT To: bellringer@fourwinds10.com Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:39 PM Subject: :SPAM: Just read the Hello Central Banking Changes...and have this to add..my credit union said the same thing! Hi Patrick... On June 29 I asked my credit union.. Southern Oregon Federal Credit Union about the new Treasury Gold Backed money... The teller I usually deal with said the Credit Union will soon have the Treasury Gold backed currency ... and expected to have the currency to work with shortly and that YES.. they are Basil III compliant. She was a bit surprised that I knew about it .. and she made the comment that "it will be intersting to see the reaction from people who have no clue, when she passes the new money out to them". Last week we asked again about it.. and the teller offered to show us the new coins.. and the manager said "the new currency paper folding money was on order and they were expecting it any time. SO..Patrick.......... I was delighted to read the post you put up today.. and I am happy to add another confirmation to exactly what you stated! Thank You, LT (Response) FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer TO: LT DATE: July 31, 2009 SUBJECT: Reply Dear LT: Thank you. This is great confirmation that the change to a gold standard banking system in the U.S. is in process In Love and Light, Patrick H. Bellringer #2. (Reply) ----- Original Message ----- From: WP To: <bellringer@fourwinds10.com> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 3:53 PM Subject: treasury dollar Hello Patrick, I read the fourwinds articles all the time and am familiar with the talk regarding a banking holiday this fall etc. But this was the first time I had heard of the treasury dollars etc, is this a new currency now that will replace the dollar in the fall? Is there anywhere I can read more info regarding this? Any info is appreciated. What will be the fate of the dollar then? Thank You WP (Response) FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer TO: WP DATE: August 1, 2009 SUBJECT: Reply Dear WP: Thanks for writing. The Federal Reserve note will be destroyed and we shall have our gold backed dollar back as required by the Constitution of the Republic of the U.S. of A. The FRN will be exchanged one for one for the new currency. In Love and Light, Patrick H. Bellringer #3 (Reply) ----- Original Message ----- From: H To: <bellringer@fourwinds10.com> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:13 PM Subject: Siterun Contact Request from Fourwinds10 Message: As for the "Banking Change", what does "Basil 3" stand for? Please confirm, this is not "a hoax". H. (Response) FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer TO: H DATE: August 1, 2009 SUBJECT: Reply Dear H: Many have asked this question. Though there are volumes of paper work laying out the new rules for international banking with the new Global Banking System, I shall make a very simple statement, according to my understanding of both Basel II and Basel III. Basel II -- Loans back by collateral Banks must have appropriate collateral, according to the new banking laws, to cover their loans. The old system of the Federal Reserve of fractional reserve banking will no longer be allowed. Basel III -- Transparency Bankers are not allowed to have a second set of books and do undercover/backdoor dealings. All banking transactions must be transparent to the public. In Love and Light, Patrick H. Bellringer #4 (Reply) ----- Original Message ----- From: JD To: <bellringer@fourwinds10.com> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:54 PM Subject: Siterun Contact Request from Fourwinds10 Message: Dear Patrick and Anne; Thank you for continuing your special mission--your web site is a life line. My question today pertains to the new treasury notes-money backed by gold. When this occurs what is the advantage to people? I want to be able to explain this to relatives, etc. The ramifications that our money would actually have value--what all would that do? and change? Would it end other corruptions of this evil government? thanks so much, JD (Response) FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer TO: JD DATE: August 1, 2009 SUBJECT: Reply Dear JD: Thank you for your kind words. I have never had such a stack of letters to answer and articles to read. I think I need a "life line"! There are many advantages to having your paper money backed by gold or silver, as required by the Constitution of the Republic of the U.S. of A. The present Federal Reserve money are notes or I.O.U.'s, worth nothing of value. You can not go to any bank and trade them for gold or silver, because it is credit money, based only on the full faith and trust of the people. Under a gold system the money must be backed by gold or silver. Every paper dollar printed must be backed by a dollar's worth of gold or silver. Then you can go to the bank and demand a twenty dollar gold piece for twenty papers dollars or a silver dollar coin in exchange for your paper dollar. The paper dollars are not notes but will be gold and silver certificates that have value backing them. Under a gold system the price of gold and silver is set and is not allowed to fluctuate very much. From the 1930's to 1968 gold was around $35. per ounce. By holding the price of gold stable, prices for goods and services were stable from year to year. There could be no manipulation of the markets by printing volumes of paper money, because any money printed had to be backed by an equal value of gold or silver. Inflation and deflation were controlled because the money supply increased only as the wealth of the nation grew. Money retained its value and had the same buying power from year to year, and generally everyone prospered. Under a gold banking system fraud and corruption are minimized, especially when bankers are held accountable. They can loan only the amount covered by the gold and silver they has as collateral, as they can not create money out of thin air, as they do under the FRB. The same would hold true for the government at all levels of society. Wild spending based on credit would be eliminated. There is much that I do not understand, but bankers would tend to become your friends again. Their profit would be in fees and not usury. You may pay a fee up front, for example, for a business or farm loan, but would pay no interest, only principle. The banker could receive a percentage of the profit of the business resulting from the loan, but if there was no profit, he would receive nothing. This would motivate the banker to help you make a profit, and therefore, be your friend. Prior to the Federal Reserve, this was true. In Love and Light, Patrick H. Bellringer #5. (Reply) ----- Original Message ----- From: GG To: <bellringer@fourwinds10.com> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 5:05 PM Subject: Treasury Dollar I greatly appreciate your website and your endless hours of effort to keep us informed! When the gold-backed Treasury Dollars are released, will Federal Reserve related "debts" (credit cards, mortgages) be erased? peace (Response) FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer TO: GG DATE: August 2, 2009 SUBJECT: Reply Dear GG: Thank you for your kind words. Yes! The debt of the Federal Reserve does not carry over to the new gold system. NESARA requires both a banking change to a gold system and the dismissal of debt to the old system. This is why the bankers and the government have fought so hard against the implementation of NESARA for the past nine years. With such a change they lose their fiat/debt money system of creating money out of thin air, their usury and huge profits, and thus their control over the people. No longer can they manipulate the money supply and the markets and create inflation or deflation at will to suit their evil plans. Change is here, and they cannot stop it. http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_d...p?q=1248990149 http://indianinthemachine.wordpress....n-the-machine/ viking |
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The british banks are reporting profits.
House prices have gone up looks like a recovery.. |
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I think they are referring to Basel II ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basel_II ) So far as I know Basel III isnt finished. A.. |
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08-04-2009, 01:58 AM | #15 |
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if the above email exchange has any validity could this be obamas last stand?? could he be the kennedyesq figure wilcock speaks of?? could the birth cert be a real attempt tp discredit him?? why is his entire cabinet and power structure banking ;lobbyist, zionists, military industrial complex lobbyists?
bill and kerry mention that the pete peterson interview they have done contains info where peterson says the ptb are less then happy about nobama or whoever he might actually be. if he discloses will this be more fuel to the assassination fire? obama is undoubtedly following the illuminati plan, wil he pul a fast one at the last breath?? |
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I'll post as and when it's back up again... viking |
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Hi Anchor,
Basel III is yet to be. They have hashed out the details and it just needs to be signed on to. That's my take on it. http://ozrisk.net/2007/05/08/accord-...tion-progress/ http://www.basel-2.org/Basel_3.html http://www.scribd.com/doc/16303030/Basel-iii-Accord Best regards, Steve Quote:
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its like youve fallen off the cliff and a sudden gust catches you on the way down, its slows your rate of decent somewhat but your still gonna splat on the canyon floor, the govt said the economy should be stablaised by november or whenever. simply put , when you hit the bottom you cant go anywhere, there is your stabalisation. Last edited by pineal-pilot-in merkabah; 08-04-2009 at 11:20 AM. |
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Heres the update to the mail exchange....lets pray it's all true...
----- Original Message ----- From: CD To: <bellringer@fourwinds10.com> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 5:33 PM Subject: Siterun Contact Request from Fourwinds10 Message: Patrick I am a PA "state worker" and have just read Story's update. I'd like to clarify for the readers - no worker has been paid for hours worked since start of fiscal year, meaning since June 30th. Partial checks have been paid into July because payroll is run every two weeks and then is held 2 weeks - any paychecks paid in July were for hours worked before July 1. Workers are now receiving a "pay statement" but the PA OA (Office of Administration) internal website explains that a pay statement does NOT mean a paycheck. Story links the ongoing budget negotaions to the settlements. Based on your information, is this true, and does this mean nothing will be settled until the Sept 30th date referenced in other postings about the new banking system? The local media coverage of the PA budget issue is worthless. Thanks for your help. CD (Response) FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer TO: CD DATE: August 3, 2009 SUBJECT: Reply Dear CD: Thank you for clarifying Christopher Story's update regarding PA worker's paychecks. The government both Federal and State has no money, apart from the settlement money that is being deliberately withheld by Obama, who is trying desperately to steal it. Settlement can happen at any time and does not have to wait until September 30, 2009. The release of the bank packets to the people in the U.S. triggers NESARA, the banking change to a gold system and the settlement money to the world's nations. The U.S. Government is deliberately holding back this process. In Love and Light, Patrick H. Bellringer #7 (Reply) ----- Original Message ----- From: MC To: <bellringer@fourwinds10.com> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:57 PM Subject: Siterun Contact Request from Fourwinds10 Message: I am looking forward to the demise of the fed and the oncoming Basel 111 system. But where is the gold coming from if it has all been stolen by the crooked pols and bankers? (Response) FROM: Patrick H. Bellringer TO: MC DATE: August 3, 2009 SUBJECT: Reply Dear MC: You have been told great lies about the gold in our world. Much of the gold stolen from the U.S. has been recovered and is under guard in the Norad Complex in Colorado, USA. There is gold stored in many countries, ready for the new global banking system. Believe me, there is far more gold available as collateral than any of the gold inventory reports show. Much wealth has been stored for centuries and protected by the Guardians for use by the Lightworkers during these "End Times". also, a huge gift of gold has been received from the people on Venus for our use. The Inca and Aztec wealth is available as is the Dynasty Families of the world's wealth. You have no idea the volume of gold now available as corpus to back the new Global banking system. In Love and Light, Patrick H. Bellringer viking |
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Just found this on my travels whilst in Slovakia... (great beer!!!)
Confirmation of Bank collapse from CIA and international banker August 11, 2009 FYI, I had a conversation with my friend in international banking yesterday and tried to warn him about the impending bank holiday and currency exchange. He said that because he works with people at the top (Rothschilds and Rockefellers, etc) he would know if this were true. He did however confirm again that all central banks have been stocking up on the new Amero currency. I encouraged him to check out my info. Well, I received this in an e-mail from him just a few hours after our phone conversation: "As to your Bank Holiday information of this morning, the following is from a close CIA connection, the way it will come down is that starting 8/24, groups of banks will be closed in certain regions of the country for a week or so. They will open again, and then other groups of banks in different regions will be closed; and on and on it will go, until all the banks in the country have gone through that process. further reading ... http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_d...p?q=1250130457 viking |
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Interesting read....
America is just a few days away from a possible day of reckoning. I again call attention to this day, August 25, when the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation issues its 2nd Quarter report for 2009 on the state of health of American banks. It has not particularly alarmed Americans that its growth and prosperity have been built upon debt. The American public is a bit desensitized, particularly since the Y2K threat fizzled. We must wait and see how Americans respond to the upcoming FDIC report. The following charts tell the story. There are roughly 8400 American banks that set aside a small portion of their profits to aggregately insure bank depositors should their local bank fail. A plethora of bank failures has depleted the FDIC reserve fund from $52.8 billion in 2008 to $13 billion in the 1st Quarter of 2009. (See chart below) http://www.lewrockwell.com/sardi/sardi116.html viking |
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Just found this...exchange of mail... Looks like the end is near...
"After September 30, the U.S. is on its own, as the Federal Reserve is totally rejected by the nations of the world, and they move to a Global gold banking system. All banks participating in the new banking system must be Basel II and Basel III compliant. Some smaller U.S. banks became compliant last spring in preparation for the banking change at that time, but the change has been delayed until now, basically by the U.S. Other nations do not want the U.S. to "crash" and have been helping to save us, but Obama and crew are desperately trying to save their fiat FRB system with no regard for the results to our people. When the FRB goes down, the One World Order has lost the war for world control. They have already lost big time, and the players now are trying to escape with as much wealth as they can. When this all is sorted out, these evil players will have nothing. Expect good things to happen yet this month. I believe victory has been won! We are waiting for the dust and smoke to clear. Watch Glenn Beck on FOX news today and Sunday. He plans to start telling the Truth! May he do so, and we pray for his wisdom and protection." viking |
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