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Old 11-09-2008, 09:46 PM   #1
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Default Clearing up avalon

Over 400 thread were moved out of the review area to Off Topic today. So check there if you are looking for something or please use the search function. There were a few threads that I didn't have time to review yet but they should be in Off Topic in the next day or two.

In addition.. it's time to clean up the General Avalon Forum only this time everything will go to Off Topic where we will sort the threads from there so folks will have access to them during the sorting out process.

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Old 11-09-2008, 11:53 PM   #2
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Sounds like the war on terror. Only the forum version.
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Old 11-09-2008, 11:59 PM   #3
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Go for it Carol, Show us the good intentions. The world needs an example of how it all can work out, if everyone is of good intentions.

By now, everyone should have lost their fear...

If this spreads/ goes Virtal, we might not even have to build new communities.

?me is sitting back, and watches how this develops.

BTW, I got 4 infractions? Isn't 3 an automatic Ban? Has a Discision been made to withdraw them?

I hope this all works out for the best, and we can start making history.. t'is about Time that we go global.. Real and Virtual..

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Old 11-10-2008, 12:02 AM   #4
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Who decides what is a disparaging or negative post? Negative as compared to what?

I disagree with a fair few of the views on various threads, does that make me negative?
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:10 AM   #5
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Please people,

Give the Mods, Admins and Owners a chance to show their good intentions...

Wait... Give it a couple of days.
No need to give them hell, for trying to sort this out for once and for all, so we can start..

Again, Please...
Officially I am allready banned, I am still posting.. (HINT!)
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:15 AM   #6
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I will start sorting through the threads now. Please remember ANY THREAD that is not
on the following topics is being moved to the review area: Finding safe places, information and resources for building communities, site suggestions.

I fully expect this forum to look pretty bare in short order.
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:20 AM   #7
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Thank you for posting the guidelines. I for one see I have not followed forum guidelines completely, and for this I am sorry.

From now on I will abide by them as I do love being on avalon

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Old 11-10-2008, 12:28 AM   #8
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wow at the bans, scary
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:44 AM   #9
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The first 44 threads have been moved. There are over 9 pages of threads to go through as the entire Avalon General Forum is being sorted out.

Please remember all of the missing threads are in the review section. Some of the threads are just fine as they stand but in the wrong sub-forum. It will take us a few days to sort this all out so please be patient.

Mahalo Nui Loa,

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Old 11-10-2008, 12:53 AM   #10
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The only people I see being banned are those who communicate in an abusive, disresptful style. There may be things I have not seen. Often someone takes offense by misinterpretating the other's intent.

I don't see people being banned for disagreeing, but for the abusive manner in which they go about it. These are often (not always) the people that get banned from one discussion list or forum after another, and they never get it that it's not the ideas they present, but the personal attacks and choice of words, like "You are blind if you think that." You are ... is the hallmark of the personal attack. Try using I feel, or I think ...

Thank you to the mods for cleaning up the forum.

Having been a moderator in a large discussion group, I'm well aware of the far-out plots that some people ascribe to the moderators who volunteer their time to keep the list/forum from descending into a flaming war of words.

The key is respect. And do not slam the volunteer mods for doing their job.

I hope this helps explain it's not the ideas that get you banned, but the attitude.
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Old 11-10-2008, 01:02 AM   #11
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Wow - You really know how to wield that broom, eh Carol?

All these conspiracy buffs can't see beyond their noses!

Great job.
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Old 11-10-2008, 01:05 AM   #12
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30 more threads just moved to the Review Area.
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Old 11-10-2008, 01:06 AM   #13
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The only people I see being banned are those who communicate in an abusive, disresptful style. There may be things I have not seen. Often someone takes offense by misinterpretating the other's intent.

I don't see people being banned for disagreeing, but for the abusive manner in which they go about it. These are often (not always) the people that get banned from one discussion list or forum after another, and they never get it that it's not the ideas they present, but the personal attacks and choice of words, like "You are blind if you think that." You are ... is the hallmark of the personal attack. Try using I feel, or I think ...

Thank you to the mods for cleaning up the forum.

Having been a moderator in a large discussion group, I'm well aware of the far-out plots that some people ascribe to the moderators who volunteer their time to keep the list/forum from descending into a flaming war of words.

The key is respect. And do not slam the volunteer mods for doing their job.

I hope this helps explain it's not the ideas that get you banned, but the attitude.
i know already that, what i see is too much bans. makes one wonder. but ok. I know what this site is about.
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Old 11-10-2008, 01:09 AM   #14
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I hope this helps explain it's not the ideas that get you banned, but the attitude.
Nicely put Heart and I'd agree that some firm application of rules at this point is no bad thing. The forum should be a place where something that is ultimately positive can grow (in my view). Even if some of the subject matter that is discussed is by its own nature negative in outlook.

I've not joined a forum before, so I'm slightly surprised that something so positive in aspiration as avalon can attract posts that are devisive as they have been.

I for one want to see positive change in our world for positive reasons. If that can't happen in electronic space with complete strangers, then it won't in real space with real people either.

Let's hope this clearout will mark a change in vibe too.

P.S. By real...I take it that you are all a figment of my infinite ego ;0)

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Old 11-10-2008, 01:09 AM   #15
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sounds good to me!

where do you go to read or post stuff that isn't survival or gound crew oriented???

i live by the woods and know a lot of peeps that already for the past 40 yrs have lived in small communities that self sustain each other...these are wonderful things for sure!

i am here for the more spiritual posts rather than the survival issues stuff...does this mean that all of that stuff is now gone???

i surely do not want to disrespect anyone and i can find another forum i am sure that i can find info on spirituality,quantum physics, timewavs zero, 4d shift, etc etc etc....

just let me know!

thanx and om shanti!

i am sure you have a lot of work on your hands!

peace and love to you all....


THERE ARE MULTIPLE SUBFORUMS WITH ALL THE INFORMATION YOU ARE SEEKING, AS WELL AS THE CAMELOT FORUM WHICH ALSO HAS MULTIPLE SUBFORUMS.

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Old 11-10-2008, 01:14 AM   #16
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The only people I see being banned are those who communicate in an abusive, disresptful style. There may be things I have not seen. Often someone takes offense by misinterpretating the other's intent.

I don't see people being banned for disagreeing, but for the abusive manner in which they go about it. These are often (not always) the people that get banned from one discussion list or forum after another, and they never get it that it's not the ideas they present, but the personal attacks and choice of words, like "You are blind if you think that." You are ... is the hallmark of the personal attack. Try using I feel, or I think ...

Thank you to the mods for cleaning up the forum.

Having been a moderator in a large discussion group, I'm well aware of the far-out plots that some people ascribe to the moderators who volunteer their time to keep the list/forum from descending into a flaming war of words.

The key is respect. And do not slam the volunteer mods for doing their job.

I hope this helps explain it's not the ideas that get you banned, but the attitude.
Well said.
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Old 11-10-2008, 02:30 AM   #17
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this is great news. clean the house.
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Old 11-10-2008, 02:37 AM   #18
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That answers my question about where my post went---but not the original question asked on my post..."If you were running for the presidency, how would you go about doing it?" Play the Game or have sign on your back saying "I am against TPTB"
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Old 11-10-2008, 02:40 AM   #19
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Clean the House!!!
You have my blessings

On a more serious note, Thanks for your time.
I hope the result is a positive one.
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Old 11-10-2008, 02:46 AM   #20
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Just a heads up, over 50% of the threads were moved and did not belong here. Others that remained still need sorting but I do not have the time to open several hundred threads to check on this.

If you truly would like to be part of the solution.. you can help by taking a look at what is left and let us know where you think the thread should be moved to.

At least now some of the Avalon info is more easily found. If you post a thread non-Avalon related, know it will be moved into the holding area until we have time to sort it all out.

We are currently short on mods and have a new team starting in the next few days.

Mahlo Nui Loa and thank you everyone for your support and help.

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Old 11-10-2008, 04:49 AM   #21
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Who decides what is a disparaging or negative post? Negative as compared to what?

I disagree with a fair few of the views on various threads, does that make me negative?
average joe--you make above average "good" sense
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Old 11-10-2008, 05:08 AM   #22
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Who decides what is a disparaging or negative post? Negative as compared to what?

I disagree with a fair few of the views on various threads, does that make me negative?
Too right Joe. We usually always disagree but I love ya anyways! We are adults after all. We can disagree and still both be right, and allow for tempers every now and then. Its gonna happen.
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Old 11-10-2008, 05:44 AM   #23
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this is great news. clean the house.
I'm with bbw/c, great job Carol!
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Old 11-10-2008, 05:48 AM   #24
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TARGETING INDIVIDUALS

Posts should not be directed to specific individuals such as Bill Ryan, Kerry Cassidy or any specific witness unless a discussion has already opened. We advise you to direct your comments, questions and concerns to the group, so anyone may answer you. This promotes community discussion rather than personalities.

as quoted from Carol.

I am happy to see this being addressed. I have seen many personal attacks, and disregard for other's respect.

Well done Bill,Kerry, The Mods. Keep up the good work.
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Old 11-10-2008, 07:04 AM   #25
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Good job - it's about time!
It seems to me the ones that are going to be bent out of shape about this are the very ones that create the arguments to begin with. If you're not addressing anyone with an agenda to belittle or shame them, then you shouldn't really have anything to worry about.

This forum has been struggling to maintain a vibration of love and light - the dissenters challenge that intent. While I'm not too keen on certain four letter words being automatically sanitized (after all, we ARE all adults), I'm glad this is taking place. It'll help keep some of the otherwise non-confrontational beings of love and light in the mix.

Thank you
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