Zeitgeist: Project Venus Pioneers

[RaKaR]

Update & Zeitgeist Movement Radio Address | Sun. May 31st '09‏


"Friends,

First, This weeks radio show will occur on Sunday, May 31st at 3pm
EDT. This is a temporary shift as Peter has an obligation the next
week.

In the first hour, Peter will address your questions along with
Movement updates, and Jacque and Roxanne will join in the second hour
with new developments and specifics points

Also, we want to thank you all for listening to these. The Zeitgeist
Movement's Address is now the most popular show on Blogtalkradio.com,
85% of the month. Let's keep it that way!

Second,

Please note that there has been continuous and ongoing back-end
website work, in the attempt to make

the functionality more user friendly in the Forum, Teams,
Communities, Project Management, Chapter Applications, and the like.
We apologize for the delay and the slow pace.

Here are a few coming updates to the website:

1) Full "How to use this website" instructions will run down all
aspects of participation, from contributing to Translations, to
organizing Community Events.

2) We are going to host a United States "state template" system for
all 50 states. Through out Joomla programming we will bring in
dedicated Content/Chapter managers for each State, which will be the
next sub-tier of our Main English site for the USA.

3) We will also have a well organized/programmed Template Download
for anyone who wants to begin a City or International Chapter.

4) We are going to reorganize all Project Teams, initiating a set of
dedicated Managers for each which will oversee relevant projects.

5) We are going to begin a "Zeitgeist Media Project" which will
enable those in the Creative and Communications teams to work to find
mediums and approaches to furthering awareness of our goals.

More soon.

In Solidarity,

Zm Team"



United, we shall prevail!

Salome.

[RaKaR]

Zeitgeist Movement Radio Address & Studivz Censorship‏

"Friends,

First of all, please note that this Wednesday, June 17th, at 3:00pm
EDT [(2009-06-17 19:00 UTC)] will be Peter Joseph's Bi-Weekly Radio
Address.

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/...38&Itemid=1904

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Peter-Joseph

Peter will take your questions ad discuss current developments,
including specific Team issues and upcoming events/projects.

Second, as some of you may know, "Studivz" a German Community Site
similar to FaceBook in the states, has shut down Zeitgeist Movement
groups using there social networking service, claiming
"anti-antisemitism" is being promoted.

This is absurd and we must, for the sake of the groups (some of which
have 10,000+ members) and our integrity, contact Studivz and demand
they reinstate those groups and correct their erroneous disposition.

It is important that all of you out there who support our Movement
email them. It only takes a second. I would recommend you send out an
email once a day until they react. If all 300,000 of our members do
this, it can have a powerful effect.

Please go here and copy the email we have posted.

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/...&Itemid=953#15

Thank you for your help in this matter.

In solidarity,

Zm"


While heading to 'Studivz',

Namaste.
RaKaR

[RaKaR]

Zeitgeist Movement Radio Address - July 1 '09‏


"Friends,

This Wednesday, July 1st, at 3:00pm EDT [(2009-07-1 19:00 UTC)] will
be Peter Joseph's Bi-Weekly Radio Address.

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/...38&Itemid=1904

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Peter-Joseph

1st Hour: Peter will take your questions and discuss current
developments.

2nd Hour: The Venus Project will join the show and address various
points.

Thank You for your help.

ZM

www.thezeitgeistmovement.com"


Stay tuned and submit your questions,

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

[RaKaR]

Zeitgeist Movement Radio Address - July 1 '09‏


"Friends,

This Wednesday, July 1st, at 3:00pm EDT [(2009-07-1 19:00 UTC)] will
be Peter Joseph's Bi-Weekly Radio Address.

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/...38&Itemid=1904

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Peter-Joseph

1st Hour: Peter will take your questions and discuss current
developments.

2nd Hour: The Venus Project will join the show and address various
points.

Thank You for your help.

ZM"

www.thezeitgeistmovement.com



Stay tuned and submit your questions,

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

[RaKaR]

ZDAY New York City 2010: Poll‏


"Friends,
Peter here- I have a favor of all of you and would really appreciate the
feedback.

On the main home page on the website we have put a poll requesting info
about possible attendance for our 2010 ZDAY New York City (Main) Event.

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/....php?Itemid=50

(top left)

Please go there and let us know if you think you might attend (90%
certain). This is important information for us so we can gauge the
nature/size of the venue(s). We intent to create a powerful event of high
magnitude, stretched across possibly two venus- with massive media
coverage.

As with all Movement events, they are non-profit; meaning that the ticket
price will reflect what is required to cover the expenses of the event
itself and nothing more.
This will be outlined in detail on our site (full disclosure) once it's set
up.

Last year, the New York City event was full 1 month in advance, with many
left not being able to attend. We don't want to make the same mistake this
year.

Thank you for your help.
Peter"


Looking forward to meeting you there!

Namaste.

[RaKaR]

ZM Radio Address | London, Uk Lectures‏


"Friends,

1) This Wednesday, July 15th, at 3:00pm EDT [(2009-07-1 19:00 UTC)] will be
Peter Joseph's Bi-Weekly Radio Address. Peter will address your questions
and current developments.

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/...38&Itemid=1904

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Peter-Joseph

2)UK Events:

-Official Zm Event-
Sat. July 25th: Peter will be giving a formal lecture in Central London,
UK.
More: http://zeitgeistmovie.com/londonevent.html
This event will be streamed live on the website as well.

-Unofficial Zm Event-
Sunday, July 26th, at 4pm, Peter will be giving an Introduction to The
Zeitgeist Movement at the "The Secret Garden Party" in Cambridgeshire, UK.



ZM"

www.thezeitgeistmovement.com


England, take the lead!

Namaste,

RaKaR
www.futureofmankind.co.uk

[RaKaR]

Greetings to all,

Please, your latest Zeitgeist-vibes:


" Zeitgeist Movement Event Update:

Peter Joseph Lecture- Live from
London

Sat. July 25th, 2009

4pm BST Time (11am EST)

Free Live Stream will be linked from the ZM homepage:

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/....php?Itemid=50

More:

http://zeitgeistmovie.com/londonevent.html

ZM"



The summer shall be neutral-positively hot!


Salome.

[RaKaR]

July 29th- Zeitgeist Movement Radio Address‏


"Friends,

This Wednesday, July 29th, at 3:00pm EDT [(2009-07-29 19:00 UTC)]
will be Peter Joseph's Bi-Weekly Radio Address.

http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/...38&Itemid=1904

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Peter-Joseph

1st Hour: Peter will take your questions and discuss current
developments.

2nd Hour: The Venus Project will join the show and address various
points.

Thank You for your help.

ZM"


Looking forward to it,

Namaste.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

when the economy collapses how will they fund this pie in the sky project.. i catn even be bothered with the zeitgeist stuff, his money stuff is spot on but this venus thing is a bit wild.. has he secured funding from non negative ptb or any non fascist billoinaires.. if not good luck with that

[RaKaR]

The Venus Project - Upcoming European Lectures‏


"Friends,

The Zeitgeist Movement would like to announce a rare set of live
European lectures by Jacque Fresco & The Venus Project, on Sept. 26th
and Oct. 3rd, 2009. Please come and show support for Jacque and
Roxanne if you are in the area. They will discuss, in detail, Mr.
Fresco's critical, life long work and also take questions from the
audience about the direction.

EVENTS:
Copenhagen
Jacque Fresco will be speaking at The Royal Danish Academy of Fine
Arts, School of

Architecture in Copenhagen. Date: September 26th, Time: 02.10 pm-
04.50 pm, Location to be announced, No admission fee. Contact
information Ida ida.suhr@welovepeople.dk
<mailto:ida.suhr@welovepeople.dk>
This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need
JavaScript enabled to view it , tel: +45 2510 9608.

London

Event 1: Lecture by Jacque Fresco and Roxanne Meadows at City
University London, Oliver Thompson Lecture Theatre and Foyer

Date/Time: Saturday 3rd October 2009 from 13.00 - 16.00 - Order
Tickets Here <http://www.thevenusproject.com/tickets>

Event 2: Lecture by Jacque Fresco and Roxanne Meadows at City
University London, Oliver Thompson Lecture Theatre and Foyer
Date/Time: Saturday 3rd October 2009 from 18.00 - 21.00 - Order
Tickets Here <http://www.thevenusproject.com/tickets>

More:

www.thevenusproject.com

Thank you.

ZM

www.thezeitgeistmovement.com"


Looking forward,

Namaste.

[metaw3]

Tell your friends who don't speak English. The movie is dubbed in many many languages here:
http://dotsub.com/view/7281f5dc-d4b1...7-143becd34f49

[Darren Swisher]

i signed up on thee web site, still have my concerns, but i will take thosw up on the forum on that site.

[Night Light]

Greetings Avalonians! This is my first porst to this forum, and it is in this thread because if not for Zeitgeist and films like it, I doubt that I would have ever paid any attention whatsoever to PC and would have never joined Avalon.

That said, I would like to say that I know better than many the ins and outs of the Venus Project. I first discovered it in 2001, and was quite intruigued. I had shown it to some student friends of mine, and they weren't nearly as interested as I. It soon faded to the back of my mind.

It came rushing back to me years later when I first saw Zeitgeist: Addendum. Through a whirlwind of syncronicity, I ended up being the main organizer of one of the largest Zeitgeist rallies in the US in 09' I no longer consider myself to be part of that movement for reasons I explain later. I learned a great amount from my experiences, and encourage those who are seeking a better world to become the change that they seek, whatever that may be.

I have to say that to some degree both sides of the debates on this thread have a large dosing of truth. To make clear though, the system propsed by TVP(The Venus Project) is rooted in the logical application of knowledge for the betterment of ALL humankind. It is not perfect, but it is seemingly over-analysed by many. To judge the concept broadly based on one or two aspects is not wise in my eyes. Another thing, the said approach draws on many aspects of thought/philosophy, and cannot in fairness be defined by old systems. It is not Marxism, nor is it Socialism.


Some things come to mind:
-I have always viewed the aspect of cybernated systems to be a slippery slope, and many people agree. The concern in my eyes has to do with dependancy. Technology is ok to a degree, but it can impede on our ability to properly function within the laws of creation. If we put the power into an external force, we lose our personal power as humans becoming, projecting oneself into victim consciousness. Without a quantum leap spiritually for the mass-consciousness of the planet, technology mainly equates to externalization of responsibility.
-Jacques Fresco is a very brilliant man, but is very tech mended. He has a strictly science/engineering aproach. He has not taken seriously the meeting point of science and spirituality. Zeitgeist director Peter Josephs feelings regarding metaphysics is that if the scientific method were applicable it would have to be in the physical realm, i.e. not METAphysical, resulting in a paradox(Not verbatim, and I did not hear him say it, a friend passed it along).

Below is an excerpt of an article I wrote. The rest can be found in the "about me:night light" section of www.thequantumu.com

...But I was already starting to feel disenchanted with the Zeitgeist Movement. Jacque Fresco, the social engineer who created The Venus Project 60 years ago, who had earned my respect and admiration years ago, was saying that society needs to collapse much further before it will be prepared to implement a TVP style “resource-based economy”. Already 100’s of 1000’s of people all over the world were enthusiastically joining the movement; because they weren’t willing to wait for further collapse. Nor was I.

I must point out here something that may seem off subject, but bare with me. The Venus Project, while being a complete redesign of the structure of society, doesn’t touch on spirituality at all. It only states that people will be allowed to believe whatever they want. It is a strictly scientific system, and by definition meta-physical is neither repeatable nor verifiable therefore outside of our current definition of science.

Here is the problem. I am a spiritual being having a human experience. I believe that the only way to circumvent further collapse before implementing such a drastic redesign of our society is through the evolution of consciousness. We are one consciousness and it is our realization of that fact that describes the evolution thereof. Allow me to explain…

Biological science has shown that all living things developed through evolution; and ultimately started as single-celled organisms. At that level, the organism is conscious of itself as a single cell. At the point it evolves into a multi-celled organism it becomes aware of itself as multiple cells. That is how I view evolution of consciousness. We are now becoming a galactic culture and we need to realize that working together instead of against each other is the only way to survive and thrive, just as those single celled organisms realized so long ago.

The Venus Project is after the same thing. Set up a system based on humans using logic and mutual understanding to accomplish abundance and core values. So by overlooking the global shift in consciousness of the world at large, the planners behind The Venus Project are shooting themselves in the foot in my eyes. So because of this disconnect in ideas, I took another alternate path...

I do need to make clear that even the people at TVP and ZM are aware that the picture they paint of the future is not exactly what will happen in reality. They are however participating in the creation of a better world, albeit in a way that perhaps may be a little short sighted. What is important to recognize and appreciate is that there is a lot to be said for the ripple effect that efforts such as these represent. The resulting developments in the near future will be that of a new paradigm, which will require not just thinking outside the box, but the realization of a new set of circumstances entirely.

Call it--- new thought..

[Night Light]

This thread was dead in the water when I picked it up, but I hope to hear some feedback on my comments...