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Old 01-03-2009, 01:59 AM   #1
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I've really noticed in my trolling the internet that when disinfo people want to shut things, cut discussions down, 'infect' threads (not here, avalonians!!) - I mean out there in the wild west where I usually belong - there are 2 things:

1. pornography
2. homosexuality

They are both used to 'infect' good spirits (so they leave) and absorb bad spirits. It drives me nuts. I just plough right through it, if there's a comment I need to get to. Sometimes I write expletives to disinfo people in the google search bar and hit send - believe me, the search terms are data-mined and I want them to have my thoughts too. Just makes me feel better.

It's a war of words. As for the images though, does anyone see Darth Vader the grand patriarch in this sacred yoni? It may also be a good time to deal with homophobia, because this OWO (Old World Order) bends light, whether you are or are not gay. Live and let live I say.

There's no end to the schemes!



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Old 01-03-2009, 03:19 AM   #2
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Interesting, no caste, because it appears that you're bringing both of these issues to Avalon, and they haven't existed here as an issue previously. Maybe you've decided to troll? Regardless, I'm pretty sure you'll find that these two topics are pretty much a non-starter here, because we have other things to discuss that are more pertinent to where we're going/doing.
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Old 01-03-2009, 05:53 AM   #3
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hi alyscat - Well, at first when I read your post I thought, harsh! It's not like I'd go ahead and start things I don't like to see in the first place, anywhere. I've seen many pictures of snakes with crowns (phallic) on this forum and I thought this was interesting (yoni with 'patriarchal' face). E.g. woman can't win. Either way you looked at it, male or female, it's a male face.*

My next response was to be sarcastic, find a picture of a troll and joke, I am a troll! By the way, yes I troll the internet a lot, looking deep, but not for what you might think (what I mentioned) - it's just that they're something one happens to come upon.

Remember, I am looking for evidence of corruption in our political systems. I would like justice for corrupt politicians, especially these days, because it is SO foul. Everybody can smell it - and it's disheartening. I actually believe in stuff like public service. It also seems unfair that a 2 bit criminal can do 10 years holding up a convenience store, while plundering earth and her people oddly offers a kind of diplomatic immunity. It's enraging.

OK. So I look for a troll picture on another screen, looking for information & pics - trolling as I always do but this time for trolls - and start to see the Earthkeeper, Giants, troll connection. So in this way, yes, I guess it may be of interest on this forum, though not obviously at first. They are deep, as are matters of sexuality, it seems natural to me; it could be the place of the meeting a few nights ago; old friends, also guardians of forests, roots, rocks and water.

I feel toyed with on this forum and I do notice. Is there something you would like me to do, besides delve and why? It's become a bit of a full-time occupation, as I feel called upon, even baited on occasion. I'd appreciate correction if I'm wrong about this. I do appreciate this question about the trolls. Such a beautiful world of nature spirits - it's all bringing me home.

*aka 'crown' when a baby comes (verb vs noun), like Being which is very philosophically pleasing to me. Especially thinking about Sartre!

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Old 01-03-2009, 06:54 AM   #4
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ummm..hey there! sorry to sound so behind on the times here..

what do you mean by "emasculation"? specifically??

i think it's uber weird having a female sex symbol with a darth vader symbol creepily underneath that...

what am i missing here??

can you please elaborate??

sorry you feel baited...I HATE THAT!

anyway...

what's the symbology you are referencing...i am curious...

they are messing with male and female in the most perverse ways nowadays..

seems we are so indocrinated with the "usual" perversions....


what have you here??
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Old 01-03-2009, 07:00 AM   #5
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just think your gettin to something...

i see some but not all..

please elaborate!!
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Old 01-03-2009, 07:15 AM   #6
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hey no caste...if you are more comfortable pm me...

i really wanna know your perspective on this...

i have a load of insight on this subject as well....it is too private to state here why i do...

seeing as i would be judged and reprimanded very quickly...


sorry you were...yet i really wanna know your opinion..

pm me!

or whatever you want...

hey...i am a girly and i would get flack too..

just know that.

(hugs)
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Old 01-03-2009, 08:01 AM   #7
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Luminaris - I'd have to start with the snake thing. Warning: strong feelings. On some of 777's threads, there are Illuminati snakes. Snakes with crowns. It just strikes me as silly. Kind of like that dark, funny Patrica Marx joke, I love narcissists, you don't have to buoy them up.

To me, a snake is a snake. They're how THEY are. All things have their own beingness. I can relate snakes to a penis, or wavelength (as they move in half-arcs), the wonder of leglessness, hunting, being coiled for strike (potential energy), this all relates to my own experience. But a crown? What snake would wear a crown? After that, the snake is less interesting to me. It's got to be a royal appropriation of one of the things I mentioned - or whatever snakes are to people in a different geographical region. We don't have boa constrictors here - so then there's the notion of the baby in the snakes jaws. Born or being eaten? Semen or food. Wisdom? That's all very esoteric. My spirituality feels like more of an energetic overlay, intertwining web, in things. The snake is what it is, and the crown is a different energy in those images/symbols, like they're separate.

So, the yoni here, it just made me wonder. Why Darth Vader. Why can't our organs just BE? What's going on with these cultural 'overlays'. That's why I liked that Africa video I posted. The guys just waved a snake in my face, and I got it. If depictions of animals are power enhancers, focus methods, memory boards, invocations, OK. We experience it. Why does this most sacred symbol in Islam look like the English speaking world's uber villian? By design or accident? For me, it was just weird.

Between the snakes and the sacred yoni, if these elementals are over-written, what else is? That's what I meant by emasculate - it was actually for human sexuality in general, a perversion of truer meaning. Darth the yoni...

Don't get me going on GMO seeds, emasculated too. It seems life itself is being propagandized or de-commissioned. Wow - never thought I'd write a Darth-yoni, penis-crown bit.

Then I noticed similar 'slide points' with information flow on the internet. Just when things get interesting & creative, boom, off-rails it goes. It seems that meaning is being deliberately ... it's so elaborate.
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Old 01-03-2009, 09:14 AM   #8
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ummmm...my ENTIRE left arm has a "snake ' tattoo crawling up my arm..

THIS is a symbol of my WISDOM of these grievous times...and a SYMBOL of myself 'shedding" my skin..

christians try and wallop me with sticks to this day..yet my 'snakey" protects me...


i think you have more to say yet got side swept...

tell me more...don't LISTEN to the 'others' who want to hold back your message..

yeah...

hey!

wanna hear something??

i am a bi-sexual female!

wow!

so...

i have a 'HARD' time differentiating between "the accustomed" roles..

this is why i thought you might of had some "insight"

DO YOU???

or not???

GO FOR IT!!

I WANNA HEAR IT!!!

i am NOT here to judge you!


please..

LET IT RIP!
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Old 01-03-2009, 10:07 AM   #9
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Isa.30.21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.

Truth and symbols belong to no one, they are universal.YOU NEED DARTH VEDA

Darth Veda is an image of the Old Testament god YAWEH,
who represents the human mind's struggle against vices of the body. Darth conceals the word Daath which means gnosis or knowledge. The vedas are some of the oldest written sanskrit text available to day of the esoteric wisdom.This is why wisdom or the veda is seen hidden in the divine womb.

All that you call evil or dark has been potrayed in that light to keep you ignorant. Evil is a VEIL. This is the purpose of my post, all one has to do is ask with a child like curiosity. I can explain anything in my post.


Leonardo Davinci the great esoteric artist


Star Wars is a war in conciousness .The empire is the M pi re of the great Mother

NATURE IS THE BIGGEST PERVERT OF US ALL

Every time an acorn falls from a tree, the acorn is having sex with its mother. oops I'm sorry thats' perverted




Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

1 Cor 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man
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16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.


The wise man doesn't choose this or that, because he's already awake when he's offered the choice.So, which pill should we take NO CASTE? Red or Blue? Coke or Pepsi? Republican or Democrat? Whopper or Big Mac How about the choice not given: no pill. If humanity in the picture below is making an effort to transcend the worm/rabbit hole, well this picture connotes we are literally going about it ass backwards because we still view life as this or that.Don't eat of that tree for you will surely die.

PAY ATTENTION !!









The serpent Kundalini energy emerges through the crown chakra once awakened. This is why the crown is worn.

Dual Ouroborus - showing the two points in the cycle where positive crosses into negative and vice-versa.


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Old 01-04-2009, 06:39 PM   #10
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It is over.
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Old 01-04-2009, 07:27 PM   #11
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Bravo Maestro!! 777 well said, and hang in there no caste, you'll be fine. The symbolism is there to teach us about the great mysteries, its our job to make sense of it.

I have been told that da Vinci was a woman, and the Mona Lisa is a self portrait!!!

Hence the inigmatic smile! Many great masters throughout our dark history have been women disguised as men, so they could realize their great destiny in a culture that controlled and abused women.

There is a wonderful book called "Pope Joan" about one of the old popes who was a woman. The evidence is out there in spite of the Cathlolic Churches erasure and denial.

So no caste, as I said before hang in there. Without the Balrogs in life there are no Heros. Every seeming difficulty in our lives is there as a lever to help us to evolve and grow.

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Old 01-04-2009, 10:56 PM   #12
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I do agree more with no caste even though 777 displays many good examples and states wisely that sexual references can be found anywhere I'm just not convinced that somebody who saturated me even with large bold and coloured text has any good intention. But that's just me.

Something I found interesting is that in military contexts, weapons are given female names and in films, volatile ('strong') women have become more and more popular. I wouldn't call it 'perversion' but it certainly alienates the ideal image of a woman from what it should be as a GIVER of life, not a taker.
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You no maybe i was very expressive,but all my post are written in this manner compelling the reader to think. I feel we as humans do not like to think, instead we criticize what we don't understand and we think that gives us power over the subject when it doesn't. All no caste had to do was ask and i would gladly explain the meaning of the symbols in my post. Instead he choose to start another post and criticize. I leave my post very vague so people can think for themselves. We non thinkers want everything given to us, truth,disclosure of our origins as long as we don't have to think.

Also the human body is nothing to be ashamed of because it is part of our mortality and its our natural state. only thinking so makes it perverted.Enlightenment is not some grandiose achievement, it also it our natural state,ignorance isn't. All of our responses to things we don't understand, are taught responses.

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You no maybe i was very expressive,but all my post are written in this manner compelling the reader to think. I feel we as humans do not like to think, instead we criticize what we don't understand and we think that gives us power over the subject when it doesn't. All no caste had to do was ask and i would gladly explain the meaning of the symbols in my post. Instead he choose to start another post and criticize. I leave my post very vague so people can think for themselves. We non thinkers want everything given to us, truth,disclosure of our origins as long as we don't have to think.

Also the human body is nothing to be ashamed of because it is part of our mortality and its our natural state. only thinking so makes it perverted.Enlightenment is not some grandiose achievement, it also it our natural state,ignorance isn't. All of our responses to things we don't understand, are taught responses.
Well, let me try to illustrate what, from my perspective, makes this way of posting difficult.

When you say you want to be compelling, it comes across as either a need to be mysterious (pretence) or as a need to feel superior (arrogance) and a message with such a signifier is hard to be heard for it is covered over by this attitude.

I do know that any text, like the one I write now, has a signifier of it's own. I give away of myself, good and bad, and so does anybody else, and I also leave that signature of mine which is supposedly a hint at my character or maybe the content of my post.
I respect the notion of encouraging people to think for themselves greatly. However, I do feel that what you do is the opposite, by clouding things, you make them turn away even more.
Language is a ruse (inherently in my believe), so I think one should work to lay open it's deceptions rather than add all the more, for it breeds oversaturation, overflow, ambiguity (hidden commands) and thus hypnosis. A state of which I have more than enough and need no more 'mystery to marvel at' without being fed.
Also, thinking of these NLP techniques doesn't really make me think of the benevolent, non-advantageous purpose.

Also, saying that perversion is only a narrow minded concept is like saying that evil is only a narrow minded concept.
I can agree with that somehow but it moves the discussion away from the actual topic.
A perversion is 'the alteration of something from its original source, meaning or state to a distortion or corruption of what is first intended'.
The question here is then not whether perversion is there, but rather whether it is relative or not, that is, can there be such a thing as an original source, an original meaning of something and if so can it be identified (today).
I can not answer these questions with yes or no but I have the strong feeling that the nature of woman can to some degree be identified, merely by the function (sorry ladies, no degradation intended) of giving life. If then women take life, that is by definition a perversion. I'm sure the same can be said for men but nowadays we are made to believe that men are inherently murderous so I won't go that far.
Of course I have reduced the idea of woman to only it's function and all this is too simplified but I think it is evidence for the existence of perversion as such, at least on a level, and not just as a morale issue.
Furthermore, the denial of perversion actually being an issue by proving that some people see perversion in natural sexuality only proves that some throw out the baby with the bathwater, and not that we all are frigid and prude. Rather, it seems to be the old 'extreme black and white' technique of blatancy that turns good and bad upside down.
Yes, I'm trying to think in singularity but that does not mean I shall stand in ignorance to word twisting.

So here I go, my ego has spoken.
I am aware that this post might be taken offensively as it criticises your mode of expression. I don't think I have been respectful enough to be able to say 'don't take it offensive' either but I fail to see how I can express these things differently at the time. Apologies.
Anyway, I'd love to read your comments.
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Well, let me try to illustrate what, from my perspective, makes this way of posting difficult.

When you say you want to be compelling, it comes across as either a need to be mysterious (pretence) or as a need to feel superior (arrogance) and a message with such a signifier is hard to be heard for it is covered over by this attitude.

I do know that any text, like the one I write now, has a signifier of it's own. I give away of myself, good and bad, and so does anybody else, and I also leave that signature of mine which is supposedly a hint at my character or maybe the content of my post.
I respect the notion of encouraging people to think for themselves greatly. However, I do feel that what you do is the opposite, by clouding things, you make them turn away even more.
Language is a ruse (inherently in my believe), so I think one should work to lay open it's deceptions rather than add all the more, for it breeds oversaturation, overflow, ambiguity (hidden commands) and thus hypnosis. A state of which I have more than enough and need no more 'mystery to marvel at' without being fed.
Also, thinking of these NLP techniques doesn't really make me think of the benevolent, non-advantageous purpose.

Also, saying that perversion is only a narrow minded concept is like saying that evil is only a narrow minded concept.
I can agree with that somehow but it moves the discussion away from the actual topic.
A perversion is 'the alteration of something from its original source, meaning or state to a distortion or corruption of what is first intended'.
The question here is then not whether perversion is there, but rather whether it is relative or not, that is, can there be such a thing as an original source, an original meaning of something and if so can it be identified (today).
I can not answer these questions with yes or no but I have the strong feeling that the nature of woman can to some degree be identified, merely by the function (sorry ladies, no degradation intended) of giving life. If then women take life, that is by definition a perversion. I'm sure the same can be said for men but nowadays we are made to believe that men are inherently murderous so I won't go that far.
Of course I have reduced the idea of woman to only it's function and all this is too simplified but I think it is evidence for the existence of perversion as such, at least on a level, and not just as a morale issue.
Furthermore, the denial of perversion actually being an issue by proving that some people see perversion in natural sexuality only proves that some throw out the baby with the bathwater, and not that we all are frigid and prude. Rather, it seems to be the old 'extreme black and white' technique of blatancy that turns good and bad upside down.
Yes, I'm trying to think in singularity but that does not mean I shall stand in ignorance to word twisting.

So here I go, my ego has spoken.
I am aware that this post might be taken offensively as it criticises your mode of expression. I don't think I have been respectful enough to be able to say 'don't take it offensive' either but I fail to see how I can express these things differently at the time. Apologies.
Anyway, I'd love to read your comments.
There is no me to offend, i go in peace. Life is a mystery, there are no problems.

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[I]Darth Veda is an image of the Old Testament god YAWEH, who represents the human mind's struggle against vices of the body Darth conceals the word Daath which means gnosis or knowledge. The vedas are some of the oldest written sanskrit text available to day of the esoteric wisdom.This is why wisdom or the veda is seen hidden in the divine womb.

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Dual Ouroborus - showing the two points in the cycle where positive crosses into negative and vice-versa.

Yes, this is 'Ouroborus'. Normally it is depicted with only one snake biting its tail. There are several parallell interpretations: This symbol explains the cycle of the universe, life out of death phenomenon, and unending natural cycles. For more details one can visit the following link:

www.crystalinks.com/ouroboros.html

Ouroboros is an anient alchemy symbol depicting a snake or dragon (DNA) swallowing its own tail, constantly creating itself and forming a circle. It is the Wheel of Time - the Alchemy Wheel - 12 around 1 to manifest grid programs that give the illusion of linear time allowing souls to experience emotions.

Your interpretation, 777, the positive follows the negative and vice versa. Thus, if woman is seen as the giver of life, she also has to be seen as the giver of death, as one follows the other.

In some representations the serpent is shown as half light and half dark, echoing symbols such as Yin Yang, which illustrates the dual nature of all things, but most importantly, THAT THESE OPPOSITES ARE NOT IN CONFLLICT.

Here is a great link to a GRAND discussion on hyperlanguage:

http://phoenix.akasha.de/~aton/NextAndro.html

I love a feedback once you have read it!

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Yes, this is 'Ouroborus'. Normally it is depicted with only one snake biting its tail. There are several parallell interpretations: This symbol explains the cycle of the universe, life out of death phenomenon, and unending natural cycles. For more details one can visit the following link:

www.crystalinks.com/ouroboros.html

Ouroboros is an anient alchemy symbol depicting a snake or dragon (DNA) swallowing its own tail, constantly creating itself and forming a circle. It is the Wheel of Time - the Alchemy Wheel - 12 around 1 to manifest grid programs that give the illusion of linear time allowing souls to experience emotions.

Your interpretation, 777, the positive follows the negative and vice versa. Thus, if woman is seen as the giver of life, she also has to be seen as the giver of death, as one follows the other.

In some representations the serpent is shown as half light and half dark, echoing symbols such as Yin Yang, which illustrates the dual nature of all things, but most importantly, THAT THESE OPPOSITES ARE NOT IN CONFLLICT.

Here is a great link to a GRAND discussion on hyperlanguage:

http://phoenix.akasha.de/~aton/NextAndro.html

I love a feedback once you have read it!
I like Crystalinks a lot great info.
You're right all knowledge has several levels of interpretation.It is said that there are 7 levels to the allegories and symbols.

For example the above symbol of the Ouroboros also symbolizes the serpent energy symbolically cursed to crawl upon its belly and bite at the heels of our base nature ,but once we channel the energy upward the same snake becomes the firey winged serpent of the cadueces. The wings also represent the blowing open of the crown chakra which in turn activates the wing like design within the brain dipicted in the image below.



Another absolutely wonderful illustration of kundalini is the opening of the pineal gland at the symbolic crucifixion. You have the two thieves which are symbolic of the human eyes. The sacred number 22,symbolic of the master number and 22 major arcana or TNT, also 20 20 vision. the four fold nature in man of earth water air and fire 11 11. You also have the christos bound hands and feet with in man by self imposed limitations.Also jesus is elevated slightly showing the position of the pineal gland where the id entity dies between the two thieves.The list goes on, i love the symbolism.


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Well, I have not always loved all of it. The owner of the last link has tried to teach me more than I thought I wanted to learn. As I mentioned previously, I have picked up a lot by osmosis, backsliding.

I am now learning at an accellerated speed, not least of all thanks to yr prodding.

Since the snake is also called the dragon, I surmise that The Year of the Dragon (as 2009 has been named to us on the first day of this year) could initiate a major upset of the Grand Chessboard.
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It's interesting that even with this descriptive detail I can't entirely catch on, but I surely understand now what it's pointing at so I shall have a closer look at this picture and your interpretation.
Thank you for that.

Regarding the Yin Yang principle of the Ourobous, regarding the life giving and taking woman, doesn't go down entirely. I see where you are coming from and yes Yin Yang is a spinning dynamic, not a static one. But if that is so, you can't really say that anything is fixed or inherent, but rather in constant flux.
Now with flux as such I have no problem but I fail to see how the whole unit of i.e. (a) woman always shifts from positive to negative and vice versa like a sine wave or so.
I have rather come to believe that there are energies that follow such a dynamic and entities pick up on them.
How can we say that 'the age of aquarius' with its female energy will be much more benevolent if the balance that this age (the balancing out by refocusing on the more feminine) is done by something that doesn't just stand for something?

I am aware that meaning is in a constant flux itself and we are all clinging to it too much, but don't you two, Josefine, 777 think that there are some absolute inherent principles, and that female and male would be a pair of those?
(I sound like I confuse myself but maybe that is good. Maybe you can spot what's going on.)
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Well, I have not always loved all of it. The owner of the last link has tried to teach me more than I thought I wanted to learn. As I mentioned previously, I have picked up a lot by osmosis, backsliding.

I am now learning at an accellerated speed, not least of all thanks to yr prodding.

Since the snake is also called the dragon, I surmise that The Year of the Dragon (as 2009 has been named to us on the first day of this year) could initiate a major upset of the Grand Chessboard.
I'm interested if you could tell more about the kind of trouble you had while encountering this.
If that link didn't come from you I wouldn't even have read till the end. I can see similarities here with Kryon or WingMakers, just yet again other terms and whatnot. There are some interesting ideas there that I can very quickly sort in and that fill me with excitement, but then suddenly the door shut and it's like I didn't understand a word anymore. I know that learning and understanding of subtleties comes only over time, but I really find that if someone writes a text, it should be more accessible than that. I surely did not get it.
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Old 01-06-2009, 06:59 PM   #22
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It's interesting that even with this descriptive detail I can't entirely catch on, but I surely understand now what it's pointing at so I shall have a closer look at this picture and your interpretation.
Thank you for that.

Regarding the Yin Yang principle of the Ourobous, regarding the life giving and taking woman, doesn't go down entirely. I see where you are coming from and yes Yin Yang is a spinning dynamic, not a static one. But if that is so, you can't really say that anything is fixed or inherent, but rather in constant flux.
Now with flux as such I have no problem but I fail to see how the whole unit of i.e. (a) woman always shifts from positive to negative and vice versa like a sine wave or so.
I have rather come to believe that there are energies that follow such a dynamic and entities pick up on them.
How can we say that 'the age of aquarius' with its female energy will be much more benevolent if the balance that this age (the balancing out by refocusing on the more feminine) is done by something that doesn't just stand for something?

I am aware that meaning is in a constant flux itself and we are all clinging to it too much, but don't you two, Josefine, 777 think that there are some absolute inherent principles, and that female and male would be a pair of those?
(I sound like I confuse myself but maybe that is good. Maybe you can spot what's going on.)
Well it is said in the esoteric that once the sacred feminine is raised to its proper state ,that we enter a rebirth which exoterically is known as death. Once man realizes that there is no evil and that all is necessary for growth then the feminine energy will be raised.

The hidden masters always reversed the whole process to keep the woman supressed. For example in the esoteric marrige the bridegroom comes up to the bride as re entering the womb of the sacred feminine. Instead of here comes the bride,its here comes the groom.

The ego is developed in the left brain and the firey intellect lies dormant within the right hemisphere where they both eventully unite in the bridal chamber. Another way to say this ,is when jesus told the 12 to cast their nets to the right and then both boats or hemispheres of the brain are filled.

You also can see this divine drama hidden with the 60s sitcom,I LOVE LUCY or lucifer.She is firey, red head and beautiful angel of light as long as she was with her mate and then when imbalanced she becomes destructive. On the other hand her destructive nature is what makes her mate help elevate them both to their maximum potential.The age of aquarius will bring balance, to die has always only meant to live on earth

Also you mentioned the entities, they only can interfere when we are imbalanced. its like a beautiful woman sitting alone and open to all external temptations.

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Well, I have not always loved all of it. The owner of the last link has tried to teach me more than I thought I wanted to learn. As I mentioned previously, I have picked up a lot by osmosis, backsliding.

I am now learning at an accellerated speed, not least of all thanks to yr prodding.

Since the snake is also called the dragon, I surmise that The Year of the Dragon (as 2009 has been named to us on the first day of this year) could initiate a major upset of the Grand Chessboard.
Yea , i can definitely feel the pawns being moved for a rude awakening which is much needed. This is definitely the year of the dragon.
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The owner of the link has some 4000 pages on his web, hundreds of lectures and several books to his name. He was catapulted into higher understanding because of an accident that changed his brain chemistry and function. As a result he could see, read and interprete on every conceivable level. Much and profound knowledge was handed him on a platter as a result of this. Then he started his own research to verify what has been shown him. The result is teachings light years ahead, To many this resulted in the sigh: "How can we possibly keep up with him. The answer was the little sentence: 'There is no higher or lower. Whichever level you experience on, you encounter the same teaching.' We still did not feel that we were doing as well as he did.

But from the exploration of symbolic language, the body itself is one level. Everybody (sic) is doing that level.

As for woman as symbolizing a giver of life, it follows logically that she also is a giver of death, as every birth is followed by a death, as long as one considers the death of the body to be absolute death. This is only logical reasoning.

When we went into duality, we divided everything. The two pairs of any duality is artificial, we have separated what makes up wholes. To add insult to injury we have given unequal value to the two halves of one pair: E.g. Male and female: The male has had the honor of being the top value, all over the world. The result is that when China and India put a limit on the number of children per family, the ratio male/female which normally is 105/100 at birth, is revoked, as parents prefer sons. The result is that in China today there are 100 million more males than females. A similar imbalance is occurring in India. This is showing in graphic detail an imbalanced value system.

The example 777 gives, the crucifiction of Jesus Christ, is explaining the esoteric teachings of the event, showing us how we may liberate ourselves by powering our chakra system and our brain. The exoteric teaching of the same theme is, Jesus Christ had to die for our sins, a totally disempowering interpretation that is sounded in all kinds of churches all over the world, and in which the congregations consist of more female than male attendees at any one timem while the esoteric teachings go on in Masonic lodges. By the way, many priests and ministers belong are masons, and guess where their hearts are? THUS the two sexes are further split apart.

What we may look forward to is more balance. Males and females being equally valued, and the male and female aspect of both being more in balance. This is part of the age of Aquarius.

Here we may salute the avatar of the OP on this thread, 'Symbols, Images & Emasculation: No caste

Touchy, touchy - both sexes feel undervalued at times in this system.

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The owner of the link has some 4000 pages on his web, hundreds of lectures and several books to his name. He was catapulted into higher understanding because of an accident that changed his brain chemistry and function. As a result he could see, read and interprete on every conceivable level. Much and profound knowledge was handed him on a platter as a result of this. Then he started his own research to verify what has been shown him. The result is teachings light years ahead, To many this resulted in the sigh: "How can we possibly keep up with him. The answer was the little sentence: 'There is no higher or lower. Whichever level you experience on, you encounter the same teaching.' We still did not feel that we were doing as well as he did.

But from the exploration of symbolic language, the body itself is one level. Everybody (sic) is doing that level.

As for woman as symbolizing a giver of life, it follows logically that she also is a giver of death, as every birth is followed by a death, as long as one considers the death of the body to be absolute death. This is only logical reasoning.

When we went into duality, we divided everything. The two pairs of any duality is artificial, we have separated what makes up wholes. To add insult to injury we have given unequal value to the two halves of one pair: E.g. Male and female: The male has had the honor of being the top value, all over the world. The result is that when China and India put a limit on the number of children per family, the ratio male/female which normally is 105/100 at birth, is revoked, as parents prefer sons. The result is that in China today there are 100 million more males than females. A similar imbalance is occurring in India. This is showing in graphic detail an imbalanced value system.

The example 777 gives, the crucifiction of Jesus Christ, is explaining the esoteric teachings of the event, showing us how we may liberate ourselves by powering our chakra system and our brain. The exoteric teaching of the same theme is, Jesus Christ had to die for our sins, a totally disempowering interpretation that is sounded in all kinds of churches all over the world, and in which the congregations consist of more female than male attendees at any one timem while the esoteric teachings go on in Masonic lodges. By the way, many priests and ministers belong are masons, and guess where their hearts are? THUS the two sexes are further split apart.

What we may look forward to is more balance. Males and females being equally valued, and the male and female aspect of both being more in balance. This is part of the age of Aquarius.

Here we may salute the avatar of the OP on this thread, 'Symbols, Images & Emasculation: No caste

Touchy, touchy - both sexes feel undervalued at times in this system.
Hey Josefine,did you know that the egyptian initiators used to strike you on the head with the gavel to alter conciousness? Thats how it arrived in the court systems. The whole court structure is based on esoteric initiation. The weighing of the heart is the drama being played out every day in the courts.

By the way , do you have the link for your instructor?


Davinci knew the secret,the woman is on the other side.
Both energies dwelling harmoniously in one body.
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