Scientific analysis suggests Billy Meier UFO photos may be genuine

[viking]

Good old Billy...

Mmm food for thought...perhaps the Scrolls are for real as well...follow the yellow brick road....

The UFO photographs surveyed were taken on March 26, 1981 and sometime in 1984 by Billy Meier in Switzerland. This survey has been authorized by Michael Horn, Billy Meier's United States associate to determine the authenticity of these photographs. The survey conducted between October 22, 2009 and November 6, 2009 included 100 hours of laboratory time and over 100 photographic enhancements using APEP (Advanced Photographic Extraction Process) regarded by many as one of the world's leading imaging process. The UFO photographs below will have a caption with our opinion accompanied by Scientific evidence leading to conclusions drawn from our 25 years of combined UFO photographic expertise.

An original copy of the Billy Meier Photograph taken March 26, 1981 is seen below. The photography has not been retouched or manipulated in any detectable way and the conclusion of the sciencific team is that it is authentic in every aspect. The craft measures approximately 48 feet in diameter and is 25 feet tall, it's composition is unknown and it is in no way is suspended by any device detectable. There is no pixel manipulation or overlay created by any artificial means, the craft is not supported by any means known.

further amazing reading...
http://www.allnewsweb.com/page9399895.php

viking

[eleni]

Thanks for this- my ex met Billy (went to FIGU) years ago and spoke with many of his inner group and believes his story. I spent years reading the Meier material but it's clear that some of his pics were hoaxes -Asket, ray gun etc;
and if left me wondering......

[mntruthseeker]

I think Billy's stories are for the most part true. IMO alot of them "hold" back information.

I just hate the bickering between the different people. I deffinately believe in Alex Collier too..........I dont think Billy made the accusations that went in his book.

[KathyT]

The Billy Meier story is likely a hoax.

The Billy Meier case: more conclusive "smoking gun" proof of deception.
http://thebiggestsecret.online.fr/uf...moking_gun.htm

[Brinty]

I don't wish to offend anybody but I feel that the collective energy that is wasted arguing over whether this person is telling the truth, or that person is telling lies, would be better spent if it were directed at accepting that . . .

(1) UFOs do exist.
(2) They are controlled by intelligent beings.
(3) They have been visiting Earth since before humanity existed.
(4) If they had a mind to, humans could have been wiped out long ago.
(5) We should be concentrating on the positive aspect - not the negative.
(6) Wake up and realize that we are the creators of our own future.
(7) Positive thought creates positive energies that will enrich our lives.
(8) Negative thoughts create negative energies which will destroy us.

[Jonathon]

Originally Posted by Brinty

I don't wish to offend anybody but I feel that the collective energy that is wasted arguing over whether this person is telling the truth, or that person is telling lies, would be better spent if it were directed at accepting that . . .

(1) UFOs do exist.
(2) They are controlled by intelligent beings.
(3) They have been visiting Earth since before humanity existed.
(4) If they had a mind to, humans could have been wiped out long ago.
(5) We should be concentrating on the positive aspect - not the negative.
(6) Wake up and realize that we are the creators of our own future.
(7) Positive thought creates positive energies that will enrich our lives.
(8) Negative thoughts create negative energies which will destroy us.

Amen sir, AMEN!

Whether they are real or not doesn't alter WHAT IS! The facts are on the moon anyway... you can't PROVE anything! Truth is in the experience, so goes Plato's Allegory of the Cave... any communication of experience immediately and inherently fictionalizes it... hence why the name of God cannot be spoken - doing so attempt to fictionalize something beyond definition, and bind something infinite. Hence also why the truth only exists within! Everything without is an illusion/fiction.

(referenced from Brandon Adams, Creditors in Commerce)

Reminds me of the song from U2 - Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For. He searched for, found and experienced everything he could experience in the physical world... yet what he was looking for could not be found outside of himself. Kudos Bono

[Steven]

Originally Posted by Brinty

...
(1) UFOs do exist.
(2) They are controlled by intelligent beings.
(3) They have been visiting Earth since before humanity existed.
(4) If they had a mind to, humans could have been wiped out long ago.
(5) We should be concentrating on the positive aspect - not the negative.
(6) Wake up and realize that we are the creators of our own future.
(7) Positive thought creates positive energies that will enrich our lives.
(8) Negative thoughts create negative energies which will destroy us.

Hello Brinty . You are pointing out important things here. When we get too far into intellectualizing scenarios we often loose perspective. What you give us here is perspective. I believe any fringe information should be looked into the perspective of a solid true foundation, whatever the angular stone is.

I often look at the world in the light of the Universal Laws of Consciousness and it always amazed me how deep these laws are acting into our becoming. I often use freewill as perspective to make up my mind about a person, or a culture. It is very arbitrary, but it always served me well to avoid getting confused into too many reference points especially when I deal with fringe information that mixed up emotion, judgment, personal ethic, etc...

I would like to add:
#9. We are progressively entering into a Greater Community of the Galaxy.
#10. The final step of our consciousness evolution is at the door, we are about to see a New Human to born from the heart of the old. It will not be spectacular, but rather soft and subtle.

Sorry for the ride out of the path.

My personal research about Billy Meir is that this guy is manipulated. His name might be used also for many uses he personally might not be aware of. A lot of hoaxes are around the guy, it might be because the initial story is indeed TRUE. It is often like this when an amazing story hits the crowd. It is how our "manipulators" works.

"They" are only influential, not controlling. In the end, we have the power to make choice even if they are trying to influence it a lot.

That's it, I'm still out of the path.

Namaste, Steven

[Brinty]

Originally Posted by Steven

I would like to add:
#9. We are progressively entering into a Greater Community of the Galaxy.
#10. The final step of our consciousness evolution is at the door, we are about to see a New Human to born from the heart of the old. It will not be spectacular, but rather soft and subtle.

Sorry for the ride out of the path.

Namaste, Steven

No need to be sorry Steven - honesty and common sense (even if it is sometimes un-common) is always welcome.

Just think - all our pathways will be converging in the not so distant future - and will continue as pathways in another dimension.

[viking]

Hi Brinty thanks for popping....

I keep saying simple is at times is the best solution...and your right why do we complicate things with debate...Don't get me wrong I love healthy debate as long as we can stay within the guidelines of mature approach...

You and Steven hit the nail on the head here...

I don't wish to offend anybody but I feel that the collective energy that is wasted arguing over whether this person is telling the truth, or that person is telling lies, would be better spent if it were directed at accepting that . . .

(1) UFOs do exist.
(2) They are controlled by intelligent beings.
(3) They have been visiting Earth since before humanity existed.
(4) If they had a mind to, humans could have been wiped out long ago.
(5) We should be concentrating on the positive aspect - not the negative.
(6) Wake up and realize that we are the creators of our own future.
(7) Positive thought creates positive energies that will enrich our lives.
(8) Negative thoughts create negative energies which will destroy us.
Added by Steven...
(9) We are progressively entering into a Greater Community of the Galaxy.
(10) The final step of our consciousness evolution is at the door, we are about to see a New Human to born from the heart of the old. It will not be spectacular, but rather soft and subtle.

viking

[Sarahmay]

I absolutely believe the photos and videos are real.

However, a more important question is, what is the agenda of the Semjase Pleiadians? And why should we believe anything they say?

All they told Billy Meier was a bunch of fear mongering stuff. And nothing about the true history of the human race on Earth.

This is why I gravitate towards the Amenti teachings--it tells everything about human history in excruciating detail. And the Semjases are not on the "friends" list.

[Jacqui D]

I have no doubt that Billy Meier's stories are true but this post was concerning the photographs of ufo, i do feel and this is my opinion only that the photos do not feel right to me.
I must admit i have never seen a circular craft like this the ones i have seen are cigar shaped back in the 60's and in the 80's the black triangular shape ones and we have cleared that one up by now knowing they were military.
The one my sister saw in the middle 50's was of a circular shape and similar to these Billy Meier ones lacking the nodules which are on those of Billy's this for me is where i feel it looks a little fake.
Hey but who i am i! what do i know so perhaps they are who knows just going with my intuition on this one.
This was the one that almost landed in a street in the 50's very near where i lived as a kid and my sister was a witness to this one along with her friends.

see link below.

http://www.ufocasebook.com/bexleyheath1955.html

[Luminari]

Well here is the exact same beamship that Billy Meier made famous captured in South Africa by someone completly unrelated!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs5rcvQa7fA

[viking]

Good find Lumi...

Makes you laugh doesn't it....

All these thousands and thousands of videos now available and they still manage to suppress the knowledge from the masses...and if it does seep out, riducule is the name of the game...

I wonder what Humanity needs as a wake up call??

viking

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by Sarahmay

I absolutely believe the photos and videos are real.

However, a more important question is, what is the agenda of the Semjase Pleiadians? And why should we believe anything they say?

All they told Billy Meier was a bunch of fear mongering stuff. And nothing about the true history of the human race on Earth.

This is why I gravitate towards the Amenti teachings--it tells everything about human history in excruciating detail. And the Semjases are not on the "friends" list.

How do you know the Amenti account of human history is accurate, how can you be sure? imo we can not be 100% sure of any material that is being published now. So much disinfo to confuse & distract the masses.

[Sarahmay]

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

How do you know the Amenti account of human history is accurate, how can you be sure? imo we can not be 100% sure of any material that is being published now. So much disinfo to confuse & distract the masses.

We cannot be certain, of course, but at least there is a lot of detail in this info. I'm tired of being given snippets of patronizing stories. It is bad enough that are incarnated knowing nothing...and then we are told this ridiculous account of our origins. Then you just have to go by gut--what feels right.

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by Sarahmay

We cannot be certain, of course, but at least there is a lot of detail in this info. I'm tired of being given snippets of patronizing stories. It is bad enough that are incarnated knowing nothing...and then we are told this ridiculous account of our origins. Then you just have to go by gut--what feels right.

I totally agree with you.....problem seems to be, everyone's gut feeling is telling something different than the next guy. So its hard to get a strong consensus on something.

[J_rod7]

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Best Greetings in Peace to All,

Thank You Viking, for providing this Thread in the Forum.

Sarahmay,

I address some of your concerns here, where you state: [ "I'm tired of being given snippets of patronizing stories. It is bad enough that are incarnated knowing nothing...and then we are told this ridiculous account of our origins." ]

Each Lifetime is like a level in a grand "school-of-Life" with literally Millions of levels. It takes the Human Spirit around 60- to 80-Billion years to complete all the levels in Material Reincarnations. If we were to hold all previous lessons learned in our previous Lives in our Consciousness, if we knew all which our Spirit knows, we could not make any progress in our Spiritual Evolution. The Spirit knows only Truth, which if we had conscious access to only Truth, then we could not make the mistakes in the Lives, which are the lessons and reasons for the Life -- that we may learn to correct the mistakes, then gain deeper understandings therefrom.

As to "snippets of patronizing stories," I don't know which "snippets" you've read. If you would like to read the more complete (NON-patronizing) story, then please read the following 3-parts from Contact 251: ...

http://www.theyfly.com/PDF/Contact251Part1.pdf

http://www.theyfly.com/PDF/Contact251Part2.pdf

http://www.theyfly.com/PDF/Contact251Part3.pdf

To clarify ("And the Semjases...") = There is only one Semjase, she was one of Billy's primary contact persons in the 1970's. Semjase is but one of the Plejarens (pronounce: play-yar-ens) involved with the mission to restore the Truth of the Spiritual reality of the Human Beings, and the Truth of Creation to the Earth Humans. You are encouraged to read more, as there is so much more to all which has been brought to us from the Plejarens and from Billy.

In Peace -- Salome



Namaste

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[viking]

Originally Posted by J_rod7

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Best Greetings in Peace to All,

Thank You Viking, for providing this Thread in the Forum.

Sarahmay,

I address some of your concerns here, where you state: [ "I'm tired of being given snippets of patronizing stories. It is bad enough that are incarnated knowing nothing...and then we are told this ridiculous account of our origins." ]

Each Lifetime is like a level in a grand "school-of-Life" with literally Millions of levels. It takes the Human Spirit around 60- to 80-Billion years to complete all the levels in Material Reincarnations. If we were to hold all previous lessons learned in our previous Lives in our Consciousness, if we knew all which our Spirit knows, we could not make any progress in our Spiritual Evolution. The Spirit knows only Truth, which if we had conscious access to only Truth, then we could not make the mistakes in the Lives, which are the lessons and reasons for the Life -- that we may learn to correct the mistakes, then gain deeper understandings therefrom.

As to "snippets of patronizing stories," I don't know which "snippets" you've read. If you would like to read the more complete (NON-patronizing) story, then please read the following 3-parts from Contact 251: ...

http://www.theyfly.com/PDF/Contact251Part1.pdf

http://www.theyfly.com/PDF/Contact251Part2.pdf

http://www.theyfly.com/PDF/Contact251Part3.pdf

To clarify ("And the Semjases...") = There is only one Semjase, she was one of Billy's primary contact persons in the 1970's. Semjase is but one of the Plejarens (pronounce: play-yar-ens) involved with the mission to restore the Truth of the Spiritual reality of the Human Beings, and the Truth of Creation to the Earth Humans. You are encouraged to read more, as there is so much more to all which has been brought to us from the Plejarens and from Billy.

In Peace -- Salome



Namaste

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Thanks Jrod...

Those links are excellent reading...I recommend all Billy Meier enthusiasts to read...

viking

[Luminari]

These are Universal Spirit Symbols- part of a telepathic symbol language taught to Meier at a young age by the Plejaren man Sfath.

I had a german family member translate them all for me. At a future point I will upload a english version of these tables... this is only a small sample of the symbols. Can anyone own the copyright on a language? I surely think not.. so I freely facilitate the viewing of these here for ALL BEINGS.

If anyone has a colour version of these, please share the love.

Salome.

[Luminari]

[viking]

Originally Posted by Luminari

These are Universal Spirit Symbols- part of a telepathic symbol language taught to Meier at a young age by the Plejaren man Sfath.

I had a german family member translate them all for me. At a future point I will upload a english version of these tables... this is only a small sample of the symbols. Can anyone own the copyright on a language? I surely think not.. so I freely facilitate the viewing of these here for ALL BEINGS.

If anyone has a colour version of these, please share the love.

Salome.

Awesome find Lumi...Are they for real...

viking

[Luminari]

Yes Viking, the real deal, I don't deal in fiction.

[micjer]

Great stuff guys. I just wish he would get rid of some of those bogus pics of the wedding cake ufo's!!

[viking]

Hey Lumi...I look forward to those transaltions...

Check this out just recieved...

Apophis aka The Red Meteor

Our rapidly changing world is inundated with all sorts of diversions, distractions and daily pressures. So if someone tells you that there's an asteroid heading for a collision with the Earth, in either 2029 or 2036, it either sounds like just another disaster movie or something that really isn't of immediate concern.

Neither of these two options are correct.... another one!!!

There is an asteroid heading towards Earth, it will collide if not deflected and there's a very good chance that you and/or your family, friends and loved ones will be around for this catastrophic event.

http://theyfly.com/Red_Meteor.html

And while you may correctly expect that Billy Meier has prophesied this forthcoming collision, you will probably be surprised to know that the Russian Space Agency has taken the warning very seriously and is trying to get international cooperation to avert the tragedy, as you can learn here. For those who truly understand the magnitude and reality of this situation, there is a lot that you can do to help to pressure NASA to participate in the Russian initiative. And it only takes sending the information/link to the people in your address book....and to every possible news, science, government, radio, TV station or site that you can.

If everyone, if you, just took a few minutes to participate you could help all those who spend an enormous amount of time trying to get the mainstream to cover the Meier case - and it's vitally important information. Of course you'd be helping yourself and everyone on the planet in the decades to come. That would mean that you could actually make an historic, unprecedented, actual positive contribution to the future of our world, something that is proving to be quite rare in the overall scheme of things.

Naturally, you will find other updates and new information on the site so please take a little time to get caught up. Unfortunately, more and more of Meier's prophetic and predictive information is coming true and being corroborated. But this is, again, something that we can choose to try to affect for the better, or just be passive observers as the events unfold. Considering what is coming our way should we remain passive, there will be a lot of regret in the future on the part of those who could have acted but didn't.

viking

[Luminari]

Originally Posted by viking

..And while you may correctly expect that Billy Meier has prophesied this forthcoming collision, you will probably be surprised to know that the Russian Space Agency has taken the warning very seriously...

Yes interesting, we have been hearing about this alot recently in articles such as this:

Russia To Send Asteroid Apophis Back into Deep Black Space


BTW ok I will start on the translations.. I will have to photoshop it all, also my translator had issues with some of them, mentioned something about them not having an exact english equivalent, but most of them were fine.
Keep in mind there are apparently around a million symbols, these are just a small sample.

Peace,

L